That ducting doesnt comply, needs to be insulated when passing through a non heated roof space. Hot air hits cold air & condenses causing water. Tut tut Nick!! 😂

There is no one to report them to. I've found work equally as bad as this where the electrician has been NIC affiliated. When I contacted the NIC they were not interested but instead asked me to pay them £799 + VAT and they would come and inspect it. The industry is still rubbish. All you can do is sue them through the civil courts where they may get a CCJ against them.

Got a quick tip for siliconed mirrors etc. keep a bit of that nylon banding that’s used on pallets and boxes, use it as a cheese wire to saw down or up the back of the mirror. Yes it’ll damage cable insulation, but most times you get the mirror off in one 👍👍

I am surpriced that no one didn’t put in the law that you cannot just close one ltd and open a new one for the same business. Beside we need better executive order. People are allowed to "disapear" after butchering someones property.

In 2014 i was refurbishing a kitchen in a tenement flat where a certain Gale Black lived , she baulked at the price that my spark (proper pro, vat reg'd and all that)had given to change the consumer unit , and got her "own guy". Late on a friday afternoon this clown turned up , did a LIVE 63 amp disconnect /re-connect of the mains in from the meter (its a tenement flat) and proceeded to bodge a new rcd board into place , however , one of the bedroom ring mains was dead . Anyways im busily cleaning the grout in the kitchen when the dodgey spark and flat owner Gale came into the kitchen and spread out several lines of cocain , and snorted away. He then went back to the box , pulled the whole lot out from the wall and saw a little wire that had been a partial on the old board and the copper was brittle , took a hammer to the plaster untill he found the copper was soft in the cable , connected it like the lights in the video there with chop block and insulation tape , put it all back on the wall , had another line and left . So if there's a big fire above Droothy Neighbours pub in Edinburgh then look in the hallway of the flat above on the 2nd floor , i bet it starts in the lath+plaster wall.

Makes you wonder what they’ve done in other peoples houses! Good job putting it right.

Different trade but similar experience I’m a joiner and went to check the work done in my mates grand parents house such as stud walls, doors and kitchen everything was way out of square the stud walls didn’t have any noggins this joiner has just got an award for carpentry and joinery in my area

That loft insulation hanging over into the water tank was giving me anxiety 😂

Surprised that you hadn't already installed a new CU for your M-I-L.

i would reccomend insulated ducting as the uninsulated can condense the moisture and over time the duct will fill with water

gotta love the extractor fan 😮 wow an attic steam room 👌

To be fair, the bathroom looks nice. The fitters just need to stay well away from electrics

i keep on the van female/male push fit lighting connectors for these occasions, like the clickflow push in connector. also latching RCD fused connection unit and fitted outside above the bathroom door to supply bathroom rather then changing the consumer unit on occasions like this.

Artisan's work is really going down the pan

I didn't know you could have a consumer unit in the meter cupboard. On subject of bathroom extract fans, I always use the in line mixed flow fans which are a 150mm fan with 100 duct adaotors, very powerful and do the job.

First of all, love the channel and watch all video's, commented on the first video. But again, after your first visit and raising concerns, You still allowed them to finish, and now going back to rectify their issues. Lucky no one has been hurt. Why let someone possibly cause serious injury, and then rectify the issues, especially for family. Now, at least your happy, and your Test Cert now Supersedes theirs.

so am i wrong in thinking the only actual issue here is no RCD and the ducting? Swapping out the connector blocks for wago's is just a preference i thought and just needed some insulation tape or preferably a box.

I've seen issues with that uninsulated ducting. The second the moist air hits the cold loft space it condenses then you have water sitting in the pipe and often running back through the fan into the bathroom.

I'd be looking at fitting a new consumer unit and relocate it above the meter box, along with those other items like doorbell transformer and RCD as they are not permitted in the DNO meter box

Looking forward to video 3. That's some shocking work and it's very basic stuff. Do you not use insulated ducting in a loft space? Always find it isn't on a run like that , it condenses and leaks back through . If the house burns down while your away on ya jollys it's Adams fault for not adding an RCD as he's now took liability for the install 😂

I’ve seen this so many times! That’s probably 90 percent of all all bathrooms I’ve re-wired look like this. I actually quite like fixing this sort of thing. I have said to customers many times that the last people who should be fitting kitchens and bathrooms are bathroom and kitchen fitters.

nice vlog, that mirror was a nightmare and I can't believe the extractor. No gloves or mask for the yellow insulation - braver than I am!

I use the quickwire units on lighting now - they are a bit seared but much smaller than the wago boxes and so much quicker

Happy holidays Nick. Goodness I am not often lost for words but this installation has me shocked.

I had a bit of an argument with a bathroom fitter recently. He put on fb that he did his own electrics and saved the customer hundreds. I asked him where he did his training and he said KZfaq.

Quality video it’s good to see some industry big players calling out this crap , the more times this kind of stuff is called out the better the industry will get and it’s good to see nick bundy making calling out shit work cool

Nick the Mirror back might be stuck but the actual mirror front should just be held in the back box via some small grub screws mate.👍

i much prefer rigid duct wherever possible, so do the building regs. great video, thanks

To be honest we have bathroom refurb contractors on site and they never put the loft insulation back either. Probably because nobody checks up so we only discover it when the ceiling turns mold black. I agree those fans are garbage. I also only fit big in-line timer fans these days, ironically usually upgrading a refurb bathroom following a mold and damp survey. Higher CFM, noise relocated to the loft - Works!!

Well done putting that mess right , and reporting the criminals I hope you take them to the cleaners, I think you should name and shame them far and wide. One point about the lights would quite wire switch and load not of been a better option instead of wago boxes. Just an idea . Your mother i law must be so angry with them shisters . But happy she has a son in law like that knows what he’s doing. Thank you for keeping us updated on this.👍

Those lights are for kitchen cupboards. Bet they aren't IP rated. And the connector blocks certainly aren't ok, they need to be in an enclosure, as do the wagos which you're using.

Mate did you really screw through the wago box? Next time you pick one up have a look at the side of the box (either side). There is a slot with a plastic tab. That’s what you use to attach them to walls nit screwing though the plastic box. In the unlikely event that something heavy falls on the box or say someone steps on it, the one you screwed in will be destroyed and will need replacing which is why the slot on the side was added. But hey what do I know … I’m not a sparky …

I need to install an extractor in our bathroom. What type of product would you suggest? When looking at screwfix for example most of the extractors are 4 inch and have the flexi extending duct. In terms of using pvc for ducting instead is there a specific size that would typically sleeve on to the back of the fan units?

Good luck with bringing them to account.

Love your youngster in the background - sounds just like my son when I am trying to get jobs done and he wants to join me up the ladder!

Keen to see the outcome to get these cowboys 😂 should definitely front them to get a proper sparky in to do the work

Fair play to you Nick, and fair play for the beardadge too 👍

Thats horrendous! Good work sorting it out. While we can debate technicalities in industry we need to remember some absolute rubbish goes on every single day. Great video guys

Surprising how many off the old houses still have the domino fuse boards , we have had 3 houses in 2 year's still on the old indian rubber wiring !

I bet there is a half bale of hay left in the garden near where he tied his horse while the bodge up was being carried out YE HARR 🐎🐎

I would be more concerned after the electrics that the extractor is venting into the roof and doesn't have the correct tubing to vent to outside so the roof will get wet and then sweat and before she realises it she needs a new roof 😡

you might want to grab a plumber because if they are dodgy with the electrics they have most likely bodged them as well.

I thought that although the lights are class 2 & dont require an earth, the cable still has to be mechanically earthed throughout!! An rcd is a must after they fitted the lights & especially the mirror, i would have clipped them little fireproof boxes over the choc blocks they used and put a new inline fan back , screwed to the joists in loft with grommets as a dampener for sound.

Not just a cert needs to be issued but the works needs to be notified to the building control too as the fan is in a notifiable zone. 1st time I’ve seen one of your videos cus it just came up so not sure how long you’ve been doing this for but when doing the consumer unit I’d test the whole whose 1st to ensure there’s no faults which would start tripping the RCBO’s. Good luck

Report to Building Control as well for the fan extaction ducting.....not compliant....without even knowing if it's a timer or humidistat with timer for the required over-run time required by building regs to clear steam etc... Is there a fan or mirror isolator? The choc blocks should at least be in boxes...or the screws in the blocks become exposed conductive live parts that anything in the ceiling void could contact and cause a fire/shock. Extending a circuit requires an EIC and appropriate testing on the circuit to ensure it can take the extra load etc... Cables need clipping etc... etc... etc... They should have checked for RCD protection prior to doing the work in the bathroom.....No RCD.... No new electrical work. Did they even check for supplementary bonding because of no RCD ? Is it still in place? You should invoice them for your time and materials in rectifying their bad and dangerous workmanship! All this and you have not even has a look at the plumbing or structure they may have damaged getting the drainage for the shower outside etc...

Should the bathroom extractor fan have an isolation switch? Or that not a requirement?

It's good to a rectification video like this. Hopefully non sparks watching this cab see the crap we have to go through after a cowboy has done his bit

Is this bathroom masters by any chance? We have them coming in Feb next year to do our bathroom. Quoted 6K and trimmings and fittings look similar to what we are having but in black trim. They do a “package” of walls/floors/LED ceiling. If so, could you maybe give me some pointers on what to ask about if there fitters are regulated to fit electrics. Were in a new build so dont want electrics messing up when then there correctly set. If that all makes sense. Appreciate a reply 👍🏼

I had a bathroom fitted. Everything was crap. They replaced ceiling 3 times, shower tray twice. Re wired it twice. I then made them pull it all out and start again with all new gear. I still had to reword lights again. Lucky I videoed everything and posted on utube. We came to a deal and got 50% back. I signed to say I would take down all video,s . Another reason I am a DIYer

Fuse box inside a Meter enclosure that was a definite no no not allowed by south east electricity board in kent wouldnt even allow a switch fuse isolator for a sub main feed.

Moved into a new house and the shower room fan was left like that the amount of condensation I stumbled across.Aways use inline fans solid ducting and strapped securely to timber that plastic crap squashes and the ribs trap water.

I once bought a new British demountable campervan which had a multitude of unsafe faults: absent sealant, faulty electrical wiring, bad plumbing. I took photos and video and fixed it all. I sued the manufacturer for the cost of repairs. I didn't win, because in the UK, you have to give the supplier the opportunity to rectify faults. As they were incompetent, I didn't want them near it. However, the judge was very sympathetic and berated the supplier - and I did win some money back due to mis-invoicing (btw, they had a fake VAT number). More recently, I bought a £12k home heating and water heating system from Fischer UK. Their installers were dreadful. Afterwards, I had to fix the wiring, reprogram the non-working water heater and repair the damage to my airing cupboard. One of the thermostats they supplied looked like it had rattled around in their van for months. They were completely unapologetic and it took a lot of effort to get them to supply a replacement stat. They wanted to visit to remedy the mistakes, but like you, I don't want such cowboys ever in my house again.

Crap they didn't even fit the ducting, think i could have done a better job and I'm not a spark😂

I can’t understand why they didn’t use wago fittings and boxes anyway - ok they are a bit dearer, but they are so easy to use and quicker - overall it would’ve saved them money to do it properly. I bet those LED downlighters will fail before long - unbranded cheapos from eBay.

Hey mate Really interested in the outcome with these cowboys please make a further video 👍

I think I'd also be as worried about all of the cracks through the garage wall...did the same builders build that? 😅

Pulling very humid air and dumping that in the loft will result in water forming on anything below the dew point. Given she has insulation the loft will be cold in the winter it’s likely to be like a rain forest. Leaving that for any length of time and you’ll be looking at structural damage. Cowboys.

Some dodgy work indeed, here in the Republic we always fit a fire cuff above the fan to ensure fire rating of the ceiling is not impaired and naturally fire rated lights ☘️☘️☘️

*pulls cables out ceiling* "this is the finish" 😂

Ummm...the ducting from the fan in the loft space, is this insulated and should it not be rigid or at least if the ducting is over 300mm in length, be insulated with a condense trap????

Having to rework every job for a crew I worked with I understand your frustration.

Props for pursuing the reporting etc, but unfortunately if they are ltd they’ll likely just dissolve the company, vanish and re-incorporate elsewhere 😩 If they are ltd, check the business on companies house and look for the directors correspondence address. Good chance it’ll just be an accountants or formation agent, but you may get lucky with a residential address where you can drop a letter threatening court action etc 👍🏻

Those lights look like the cheap Amazon shallow spots. I’ve only seen them a couple of times. Shocking install.

Stop pulling that lovely bathroom apart 😂

CAN I AKS. IF A NEW FUSE BOX IS INSTALED AND ONE REQUESTS A EIC (electric installation certificate) does the certificate have to cover the hold house installation state? or just about the condition of the installation they did (the fuse box)??? Another question I have is; is it normal to charge £800 to change 6 lamps and 4 switches. Also, add a cable to 1 wall lamp and reattach another wall lamp???

I can see my house. Ha. Thought I saw you last week. Great videos.

Just a thought. You are a sparky but what about the plumbing? If the electrics are so bad I wouldn't have much faith in the pipework.

is there a pt 3 to this? How did you get on in the end with the cowboy?

Beards starting to look dapper Nick.

im no spark but surely there should be more lights from that junction box and not just the one wire as best practise? (looking at the beginning mess)

@11:06 is that grey pipe an overflow for something? I would check the loft water tank overflow is correct.

I'm assuming they got their LV and ELV lights confused. Which means they are not trained let alone licensed.

there's some scary looking cracks through the breeze blocks at the end of the video

Is it a small local fitter. Local shop or installers for a bigger shop.

the garage is falling to bits, too!

That knocked over lamp- is it still there? I find it lovely, I´d like to buy it. The colour is beautiful and the shade seems still okay. I´d like to save and use it. Can we make that happen? Kind Regards

That bathroom is horrendous. Looks like a portacabin

Sadly as a chippy I employed "proper" sparks in to do a kitchen first fix. There work was a lot worse that this

Part of me would be tempted to check everything else (e.g. under the shower tray for loose pipes and crap) they clearly don't care about doing a good job.

Has the chrome finish started peeling off the trims yet?

Look on the bright side it keeps us in work 🤣🤣🤣

Funniest thing is silicone everything up yep that is maintainable now

The cowboys ate back in town glad you can sort this and you also reported the cowboys

there is no way i would let anyone who is not a qualified electrician mess with so much as a plug in my house... that is like asking a bricklayer to install a gas boiler....

Good luck Nick.. I'm an niceic spark .. I've tried reporting this stuff before and got no where. Reporting to building regs .. even reporting a niceic approved contractor to the niceic .. nothing ever happened. The niceic contractor is still registered and working locally .. he even issued a completely fraudulent installation certificate ... so yeh .. Good luck .. keep us informed on how it goes.

One: LED Driver from 240 to 12v lights is what I would do. LED Drivers need enough space for ventilation and can be 4 channel so... TWO: those led tapes behind the mirror? cheap and not even IP65/IP67 for a start and best to be diffused. Also 60 per metre but preferably 144 in channels with diffusers around the edge. NEVER out normal led tape in a bathroom when it needs to be waterproof or rating IP65/67. I would fit IP67 which covers both led side and back side. So yeah, when using led tape near steam/water, use IP67 as best option such as in a bathroom even if in a channel with diffuser. Might want to mention, current regulation for insulation now is 270mm or 300mm which that insulation wasn't. Just noticing is all. Something you may want to mention.

If the electrics are that bad, what state is the plumbing work? Unsupported pipework? Leaks? Who knows....

Should you be placing insulation on top of electrical cabling?

Beard looking strong mate !!! 🧔

If they can't even notice that the way the extractor was fitted off centre, and thats a likely reason for it being noisy, then how could you trust them to install a bathroom correctly, making sure the plumbing is good, shower tray doesn't leak etc.Not wanting to make you a bag of nerves, but Every time you go back for a visit, just have a look round, and if there's something that doesn't look right, as your plumber mate or instagram even. Those that pride on doing a good job, will be full of enthusiasm to help, to show they know how to do things right.

You are clearly the best builder in the world

always fit a inline fan when you can never use that ducting as it reduces the flow rate solid tube or aluminium ducting plus is it me or is that mirror really low or is he just tall im a bathroom fitter never have seen a led mirror silicone on

The biggest problem is that there isnt a constant public education on building regs, especially when it comes to Part p. Its been over 20 years now. Still homeowners havent still got a clue. Which in turn allows for criminal scam artists to call them selfs trade people. Dick Turpin rides again.

Using non insulated flexi ducting in a loft?? Bad idea, condensation will form and run back down to the extractor fan? It will need replacing in 6 months?! I would change for insulated flexi duct?

You don't need wire cutters the fan blade wheel do the job😢

That’s the least of your problems mr bundy! Noticed x3 ceiling to floor cracks in the background approximately 13 minutes into your video! Looks like subsidence in the foundations to me?

Every accessory requires an earth, if it's required or not. Personally my first step would be to name them, which I always do, I don't mind a legal fight if it goes that far, which it never does. The only weapon you have, is not to pay the final payment, because none of the systems in place will be interested, speaking from experience. They may say they have already sacked the fitter because they discovered he was crap, these firms like that one.

Doesn't 7671 say you should have a (connected) CPC at every point in a circuit?

Is there no ISO certification in the UK?

Is that trim around the edge even ? Like the corners of Beth room