Catholic Apologist Matt Fradd Answers My TOP OBJECTIONS to Catholicism

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4 жыл бұрын

In this livestream, Matt Fradd from Pints with Aquinas listens and responds to my TOP 3 OBJECTIONS to Catholicism.
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@CapturingChristianity
@CapturingChristianity 4 жыл бұрын
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@Real_LiamOBryan
@Real_LiamOBryan 4 жыл бұрын
The idea that (1) Mary is the mother of Jesus; (2) Jesus is God; (C) therefore, Mary is the mother of God seems to hinge on what we mean when we say that Jesus is God; however, when we remember that Jesus is not God in terms of identity, since that would be the Trinity, then Mary is not the mother of God when speaking of identity. Jesus is God in the sense that divinity is predicated of Him. When Jesus died, the Trinity did not die; therefore, God did not die. Similarly, when Jesus was born to Mary, the Trinity was not born to Mary; therefore, God was not born to Mary (at least in the sense of identity). You can still say that God died or was born to Mary, but only when speaking in terms of an *is* of predication rather than an *is* of identity. At least, those are my thoughts on the subject.
@belleepoque3631
@belleepoque3631 4 жыл бұрын
Potato!! 🥔 lol
@belleepoque3631
@belleepoque3631 4 жыл бұрын
Capturing Christianity do you mean pitiful quality of the livestream? 🤔 I am listening on my phone and I think things are alright. But if you said the livestream is potato quality that’s hilarious 😆
@savanahbeattie3573
@savanahbeattie3573 4 жыл бұрын
bbryant0620 This is an interesting comment! I applaud your thoughtfulness. My reply is this: But God experienced birth, life as a human, and death. So no, Mary is not the Mother of God- she cannot create the Creator. But she was a mother to Him. She WAS (
@mysticicorporis1863
@mysticicorporis1863 4 жыл бұрын
@@Real_LiamOBryan Uhhhhhhh, you need to read Cyril of Alexandria. This is amazingly heretical!
@PintsWithAquinas
@PintsWithAquinas 4 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone, just wanted to thank you all for your comments and feedback. Cameron is a super awesome and sincere dude. You should subscribe this channel if you haven't already.
@tezi21
@tezi21 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Catholic and I found this discussion so enlightening! I am so surprised that I havent heard of Pints with Aquinas before today. I will be checking out your videos now!!
@thivan2000
@thivan2000 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Catholic. Already subscribed both of you
@nathanalex6880
@nathanalex6880 3 жыл бұрын
I just want you to know, Matt, that it’s this video and your witness that started my journey to the Catholic Church. So, God bless you and your ministry!
@SteveGoodwinAuthor
@SteveGoodwinAuthor 4 жыл бұрын
Been thinking, and studying Catholicism for a while, several years, in fact, stemming right back to my novel "The Angelic Gene", and after watching this interview with Matt Fradd I'm going to complete the RCIA this year and continue my walk with Christ as a Catholic.
@markstevenpandan890
@markstevenpandan890 4 жыл бұрын
That's great! Catholicism has the fullness of the faith. :)
@ZacharyCath
@ZacharyCath 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats! That's wonderful news my friend. God Bless you!
@saintd_ii
@saintd_ii 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very much fond of conversion stories that detail the years and consistent soul searching involved with coming home. It encourages tenacity in the face of dismissive anti-Catholic folk; shows you shouldn't be so quick to give up on our brothers. God speed, sir. I hope to mirror that consistency as I reaffirm my beliefs throughout my life.
@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions
@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions 4 жыл бұрын
Do you Believe that Christ's death on the cross was sufficient to pay for all sins? Do you believe That salvation is a gift of God by faith through Grace and it's not of works. So no one can boast according to Ephesians 2:7-9?
@mihacurk
@mihacurk 4 жыл бұрын
kevin blah Of course Jesus’ death was sufficient to save even the gravest sinner. But upon realizing how great God is, one cannot just stand about and do nothing. He wands to glorify God throug his works. In short: Catholics don’t say you only need works. Rather, both grace and works go hand in hand.
@someguy9571
@someguy9571 4 жыл бұрын
You're one of the few Protestants I have ever seen have an actual dialogue with Roman Catholic Christians instead of yelling at them about how "wrong" and "pagan" they are. Props to you, and God bless.
@Alejandro-vp1op
@Alejandro-vp1op 3 жыл бұрын
Check the Ten Minute Bible hour guy. He's just too ecumenical :-D
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 3 жыл бұрын
I do, often. But I’ve seen the Protestants you’re talking about. It does go both ways, but the majority, on both sides, are gracious
@ambitionroad
@ambitionroad 3 жыл бұрын
okay but they are wrong & pagan tho
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ambitionroad who do you mean? That also goes both ways, sadly
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 3 жыл бұрын
The more that protestants yell about Catholics being pagan the more Catholic I become.
@juanantoniogragasin1685
@juanantoniogragasin1685 4 жыл бұрын
Catholics please be understanding, charitable, and loving when defending our faith. Thank you!
@Kitiwake
@Kitiwake 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. It's not easy when dealing with their hate.
@juanantoniogragasin1685
@juanantoniogragasin1685 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kitiwake yeah but we must keep our lords commandment to love one another as ourselves no matter how hard it might be.
@mayg9197
@mayg9197 4 жыл бұрын
You are right my brother, thank you for the reminder. And really, nobody can explain everything because i think that is one of the beauty and essence of Faith; we do not understand everything yet we believe that we have One and Only True GOD who is present through Our LORD JESUS CHRIST since He is Our Living GOD. One GOD, three manifestations; The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Further, i want to share something that i learned when i was watching a video previously; The Blessed Virgin Mary is the Daughter of the Father, the Mother of the Son and the Spouse of The Holy Spirit.
@gardenofmary9220
@gardenofmary9220 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! It's hard for me when people ask in a disrespectful way, but we must remember not to be uncharitable.
@derekmizer6293
@derekmizer6293 4 жыл бұрын
Stop supporting child rape. Demand your church release all information concerning pedophile priests and other crimes. But Catholics don't care. Child rape is part of their gods mysterious plan which is ultimately good to us.
@marilynoliveira-anthony5664
@marilynoliveira-anthony5664 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Catholic from Pakistan. Enjoyed the civil discussion with out putting each other down. God bless you Matt and Cameron
@dylna441
@dylna441 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see a brother/sister Catholic from a neighbouring country. (An Indian Catholic).
@dexterjayaniciete7016
@dexterjayaniciete7016 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylna441 If you think this is interesting, maybe you wanna check this out :) >>kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJioibuLkrHGhH0.html its a debate about who God is
@7outofthebox747
@7outofthebox747 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylna441 www.ipertisalithias.gr/index.php?cat=2&id=8&bg=18#article
@meusisto
@meusisto 4 жыл бұрын
Is it hard to be a Christian there?
@meusisto
@meusisto 4 жыл бұрын
@@dylna441 A convert or from a Christian family?
@Lobo59470
@Lobo59470 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a former Protestant now catholic. What I learned early in my conversion was that there aren’t enough QUALIFIED personnel to give you the correct information that you want. So when I asked catholic and challenged a topic, they didn’t know. They felt unsure and often times dismissed the conversation. But what I found out somewhere. Idk where. Is that they don’t want to mislead you. Now you’ll have a few Catholics who challenge back, with false information. So when I did my research I focused on Catholic converts breaking down their train of thought. And I found that a couple young adult catholic teachers could easily break down my “misunderstandings.” But now I’m fully on board with the Catholic Church. Still learning. Trying to be able to hold an educated conversation with a Protestant
@carolinaoliveros6933
@carolinaoliveros6933 3 жыл бұрын
Blessings
@Icingflower
@Icingflower 3 жыл бұрын
Its beautiful to hear that you were so persistent in trying to find answers. I agree that many Catholics aren’t confident apologists, myself included, but I’m glad that didn’t stop you from finding what you were looking for. ☺️
@kendaugherty3828
@kendaugherty3828 2 жыл бұрын
And you are still lost. Here is what your Church is saying, in particular about the Muslims. The Roman Catholic Church is for the "wide" way that leads to destruction. For example, the Catechism of the Catholic Church says: "The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."(CCC 841) Muslims deny Jesus' death and resurrection "for the sin of the world."(John 1:29) Muslims deny Jesus as God incarnate. Muslims deny Jesus as the Creator of the universe. The Roman Catholic Church should be avoided at all costs! By the way, your Church is for "global Government." Did you know that? Care to read the OFFICIAL Vatican document regarding this topic?
@octuple505
@octuple505 Жыл бұрын
Knowingly, misleading someone is one of the most grave offenses. You are right Catholics tend to exercise caution when they are not sure.
@TaylorJohnson1
@TaylorJohnson1 3 жыл бұрын
Non-baptized “Baptist” converting to Catholicism this year. RCIA here I come! ❤️
@jeneriss
@jeneriss 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, and welcome home!!
@GratiaPrima_
@GratiaPrima_ 3 жыл бұрын
You won’t regret it, a preemptive “welcome home!” I’m Baptist to Catholic too.
@Draezeth
@Draezeth 3 жыл бұрын
Quite anti-Catholic, but I believe that God can save and provide for believers anywhere so long as they belong to His church. So while I hope you will wake up to the corruption, deadness, and mixture of the Catholic church, I know that the Lord will remain with you the entire way.
@wilsoneusebio777
@wilsoneusebio777 3 жыл бұрын
@@GratiaPrima_ Protestant sects are neither evangelical nor Christian. Only the Catholic church is truly Christian and Evangelical. The others claim to be evangelical, but they are not. Example: The Gospel of John 6, 48-71 says that JESUS ​​truly dwells in consecrated bread and wine, but Protestants deny the real presence and only say that it is a symbol. The Gospel of John never says that it is a symbol. Like John 20, 21-23 and James 5, 16 JESUS ​​gives his church the power to forgive sins, Protestants say no, that they do not confess and that men cannot forgive sins and thus contradict the word of God !! John 2, 1 says that Mary intercedes even when JESUS ​​has no plans to perform a miracle, Protestants contradict the gospel and say no. John 17, 20-26: Be one as the father and I are one, be united, but the Protestants were divided from the church and between them they are divided into more than 66,000 sects. John 19, 26-27 He says that JESUS ​​gave his mother Mary as a mother to his disciple John and equal to the church, is a spiritual mother. Protestants say no. Matthew 16, 18-19 JESUS ​​gave authority over the other apostles to Peter and left him as the main leader of the church, as pope, father or leader. Like Isaiah 22, 20-22, he says that when a king gives the keys to his servant, that happens to be a father to the community, JESUS ​​is king of kings and his community is the church, that's why the Catholic church has a pope. In Matthew 25, 31-46 JESUS ​​criticizes very strongly those who do not do works for others, and Protestants criticize the Catholic church because it teaches that good works must be done. Protestants teach that we are saved only by grace, when in truth it is that we were saved in the past, JESUS ​​gave himself on the cross by grace and saved us, but want us to do good works. Ephesians 2, 8-9. The key is in verse 10 that they don't read and in another book that Luther tried to eliminate because he gives reason to the Catholic church and contradicts that evil heresy. That book is that of James because in Chapter 2, 14-26 it says that faith without works is a dead faith. And ask. Can that faith save him without works? Even stronger is what JESUS ​​will say about the works on the day of judgment. Matthew 25, 31-46. This is only a summary of the gospels, if we were other topics in the apostolic letters, we will also see other contradictions of the Protestants to the gospel of JESUS ​​CHRIST! The cross, moving to another faith, prayer to the dead, purgatory, repeated prayers, the images, they say that Mary had more children, they say that the bible is the truth and the bible itself says that the CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of the Truth 1 Timothy 3, 15. They say it does not matter to be in any church etc ... All contrary to what the word of God teaches! kzfaq.info/love/PQA0iLLJm-NJCYfngzsk4Q
@reubenkeyz5131
@reubenkeyz5131 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome home, my sister in Christ!!
@borneandayak6725
@borneandayak6725 4 жыл бұрын
The time for all Catholic, Protestant and Ortodhox to unite in Christ. God bless 2.4 bilion Christian across the globe, amen.
@akb9297
@akb9297 3 жыл бұрын
Amen to that 🙏☦️✝️🔥♥️
@skend3489
@skend3489 3 жыл бұрын
Unite under the True Church
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 3 жыл бұрын
@@skend3489 Unite under the true Christ, not church. GBU
@skend3489
@skend3489 3 жыл бұрын
@@trinitymatrix9719 The church of Christ is the Catholic Church.
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 3 жыл бұрын
@@skend3489 Christ doesnt care about what church and what u think about it either. The only thing Jesus care about is for u to follow HIM and believe in HIM. Blessings...
@gardenofmary9220
@gardenofmary9220 4 жыл бұрын
As a Catholic, I love this! ❤️ A civil discussion between a Protestant and a Catholic, no yelling or attacking eachother, just intelligent and respectful apologetics.
@TheXone7
@TheXone7 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Catholic and I send greetings to all our Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ. God bless you all!
@johnflorio3052
@johnflorio3052 4 жыл бұрын
Most "objections" to Catholic teaching aren't objections at all, merely misunderstandings. There's a lot of misinformation -- and unfortunately disinformation -- out there about the Catholic Church. I'm glad there are channels like this where people are open to the truth. I often say, when debating Protestants, that all I want them to do is debate what the Catholic Church actually teaches not what others mistakenly claim we teach.
@jeremym811
@jeremym811 4 жыл бұрын
They aren't misunderstandings. Most objections are simply saying that catholic practices are not biblical.
@khatack
@khatack 4 жыл бұрын
What Jeremy said. There is no path to God save Christ. The saints are not Christ, so they are not able to act as an intermediary between man and God, according to the Bible. Also, there are no people in heaven, we don't go to heaven when we die, God descends to Earth at final judgement and brings heaven to US, and that is when the dead are raised. Christ is the only man currently in heaven. That's according to the Bible anyway.
@hayleymarse2853
@hayleymarse2853 4 жыл бұрын
khatack Catholics never claim that the saints are Christ...
@philotheos251
@philotheos251 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremym811 If they say that, they are simply wrong. All Catholic doctrine is deeply rooted in Scripture.
@jasmadams
@jasmadams 4 жыл бұрын
@@khatack When?!? You speak as a creature bound in time. As must all of us here in this life. What is the perspective with respect to time of those who, from our view, are already dead? Don't think that just because you have difficulty reckoning these matters, that the Lord does. God isn't as small as you require Him to be.
@thecatholicdad724
@thecatholicdad724 4 жыл бұрын
Sooooooo good to see brothers in Christ having a civil discussion!!
@gavinf.7890
@gavinf.7890 4 жыл бұрын
@The Catholic Dad agreed. If Catholics want to convert protestants, we have to do it in this way. I have much respect for Cameron for being open minded and discussing these things. It shows he is not afraid to have his beliefs challenged for the sake of finding deeper truth. This is a mistake a lot of protestants (and catholics too, unfortunately) make. Even if you're mind isn't changed, having debate like this helps you understand your own position better.
@thecatholicdad724
@thecatholicdad724 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hello-ro8fq Bold claim. Can you please explain?
@silveriorebelo8045
@silveriorebelo8045 4 жыл бұрын
perhaps the difficulty lies in that it is not totally true protestants are our brothers in Christ....
@thecatholicdad724
@thecatholicdad724 4 жыл бұрын
Silvério Rebelo Why do you say that?
@gavinf.7890
@gavinf.7890 3 жыл бұрын
@GOD SEES YOU!!!! I will do some research and get back to you regarding your objections.
@danharte6645
@danharte6645 4 жыл бұрын
As a catholic myself, I'm loving this coming together. This kind of dialogue is so important. May the Christian empire go from strength to strength and overturn the apathy found through the world right now
@mrniceguy3006
@mrniceguy3006 4 жыл бұрын
Dan Harte More like the apathy in America. I read an article that the in Iran, more people are coming to faith in Jesus, without having “church buildings “, quotes because born again believes are the church, not denominations. Sorry for going off course, lol, apathy is in America for sure.
@jt2097
@jt2097 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrniceguy3006 I agree, God's church is not a building or a religion. It is the people who love God, love fellow human beings and have the testimony of Jesus, keep His commandments.
@jt2097
@jt2097 4 жыл бұрын
Dan Harte, you are right. God has His people in all churches. Sadly all churches are also under attack by satan. Jesus said If you love me keep my commandments. And, He who endures to the end will be saved. Matthew 24:13. Commandment keeping people are going to come increasingly under attack from satan's false church so we must be strong, keep the commandments of God, endure 'till the end brother.
@mrniceguy3006
@mrniceguy3006 4 жыл бұрын
JT Amen brother
@Bocicot
@Bocicot 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gKuEqbiUsrLPeqs.html
@miroslawturski
@miroslawturski 4 жыл бұрын
I am catholic, but watch both those guys as they are both fantastic. As a matter of fact I genuinely admire evangelical protestants. IMHO, they do better job bringing people to first and second level of the mansion than catholics do. Interestingly, the most effective and interesting catholic apologists are quite often converts from protestantism. That includes Trent Horn and Scott Hahn who are just extraordinary.
@robertedwards909
@robertedwards909 4 жыл бұрын
I am an ex Evangelical now orthodox
@robertedwards909
@robertedwards909 4 жыл бұрын
On the Mount of transfiguration que pasa respons the apostle of the ap the apostle speak to Elijah and Moses
@robertedwards909
@robertedwards909 4 жыл бұрын
Book of Revelation says that the elders offer prayers as incense
@pattysayssew3609
@pattysayssew3609 4 жыл бұрын
You named my favorites! Keith Nestor just did an interview with Marcus Grodi on The Journey Home.
@amlecciones
@amlecciones 4 жыл бұрын
The strength of Catholicism is our latent belief, we are blessed to believe, we are so lucky to have been gifted this to us by our parents and family. I also admire the zeal of Protestants but sometimes I they are overcompensating for something and sadly the proselytize in Catholic majority countries rather than focusing on pagan countries.
@punk3388
@punk3388 4 жыл бұрын
“To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant” John Henry Cardinal Newman - Catholic Convert
@arkinthedark3674
@arkinthedark3674 4 жыл бұрын
"No good-willed person studies the history of the Catholic Church and does not end up a Catholic" -Charles Coulombe
@rimgrund1
@rimgrund1 4 жыл бұрын
True, but he was Cardinal Newman.
@benjamingarcia4642
@benjamingarcia4642 4 жыл бұрын
@@rimgrund1 what do you mean?
@rimgrund1
@rimgrund1 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe. The quote, though, is from St. John Henry Cardinal Newman, the English convert to Catholicism in the 19th century. We also have a St. John Neumann, an immigrant to Philadelphia from Bohemia in the early 19th century who began the parish school system in this country. So it helps to keep our St. John Newman/Neumanns straight.
@punk3388
@punk3388 4 жыл бұрын
Richard A - i stand corrected and i refer to Cardinal Newman. Thanks
@HopeBloomMusic
@HopeBloomMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Satan would really not be happy if Catholics and Protestants united in Christ Jesus.
@JoelNCurry
@JoelNCurry 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what he wants.
@HopeBloomMusic
@HopeBloomMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoelNCurry Keep studying.
@ACF1901
@ACF1901 4 жыл бұрын
Protestants have to stop protesting and unite under Christ's church. The catholic church.
@JoelNCurry
@JoelNCurry 4 жыл бұрын
Catholics need to read their Bible and not start making up things outside of it.
@ACF1901
@ACF1901 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoelNCurryif you read the bible you'd see it says not everything about jesus or his church is found in the bible. It also say not to personally interpret the bible and to follow tradition to understand it. The bible was writing for worship in mass, not to explain everything about the christian faith.
@Hope-fj4ep
@Hope-fj4ep 4 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! I’m a Christian currently in rcia (the classes one takes to discern joining the Catholic Church), and Matt Fradd has been super helpful throughout my journey. However, I still have such a heart for the evangelical tradition in which I was raised, so I really love when these respectful, considerate conversations can take place. Thank you SO much!!
@ZacharyCath
@ZacharyCath 4 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic to hear that you're in rcia. Good luck and God bless you!
@t.l.ciottoli4319
@t.l.ciottoli4319 4 жыл бұрын
Slow down and look into Orthodoxy: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/esmKataUyuCZiKc.html
@ryanpope7891
@ryanpope7891 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyCath I'm in the same boat - lifelong Calvinist (34 y/o) and we're now going through RCIA. Excited!!
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 4 жыл бұрын
UTTER @#$&!!!
@CristinaaaMx
@CristinaaaMx 4 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS HIS ONE AND ONLY CATHOLIC CHURCH
@meganmiller9021
@meganmiller9021 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work, gentlemen! Very respectful dialogue happening here. Good to see brothers coming together and helping each other seek truth. I'm a former Protestant, now Catholic. Grace and peace to you all.
@flippintobyland7257
@flippintobyland7257 4 жыл бұрын
Megan Wright with all due respect whether one is Protestant or Catholic it’s fine to be cordial and respectful but I wouldn’t assert them as brothers , with the vast differences especially on primary issues it’s apples and oranges . Although if one religion wants to learn about another fine , but brothers , I don’t see it . And no one has until a few decades ago With the ride of ecumenism.
@AjaxNixon
@AjaxNixon 4 жыл бұрын
@@flippintobyland7257 that isnt true. The catholic church has said for a long while that those baptised in the name of the trinity are part of the body of Christ.
@flippintobyland7257
@flippintobyland7257 4 жыл бұрын
Basekitball “ for a long while “ why the ecumenism now if it hasn’t changed since the beginning , and shouldn’t the answer “ have “ to come out of the catechism of the Roman Catholic Church . Not asserting this to be demeaning but just odd on both sides , and the doctrine of no salvation outside the church is it not what it says .
@AjaxNixon
@AjaxNixon 4 жыл бұрын
@@flippintobyland7257 the fact that you dont know this basic truth which can be easily found in the catechism along with your assertiveness basically means I have no time for you
@flippintobyland7257
@flippintobyland7257 4 жыл бұрын
Basekitball ahh wow dude I wasn’t attempting to be disrespectful although can I not ask a question ? Just wondering where the “ basic truth “ is found in the catechism .
@pl6867
@pl6867 4 жыл бұрын
Dulia is the honor Catholics have for the Saints. Hyper-Dulia is the honor we have for Mary. Latria is Worship reserved for God alone.
@fetormephitis3040
@fetormephitis3040 4 жыл бұрын
no offense but I suspect there may be difficulty dividing these 3 in catechism and practice
@DorperSystems
@DorperSystems 4 жыл бұрын
@@fetormephitis3040 no it's quite easy.
@fetormephitis3040
@fetormephitis3040 4 жыл бұрын
@@DorperSystems interesting - sometime compare this marian prayer to the "Lords Prayer" "O Mother of Perpetual Help, grant me ever to be able to call upon thy powerful name, since thy name is the help of the living and the salvation of the dying. Ah, Mary most pure, Mary most sweet, grant that thy name from this day forth may be to me the very breath of life. Dear Lady, delay not to come to my assistance whenever I call upon thee; for in all the temptations that assail me,
@DorperSystems
@DorperSystems 4 жыл бұрын
@@fetormephitis3040 What's wrong with it?
@tonyabrown7796
@tonyabrown7796 4 жыл бұрын
@@DorperSystems acts 4:12 says there is no other name by which you can be saved. It is not referring to Mary but Jesus. Mary was not sinless. In Luke 1:47 she says God is her saviour. Why does she need a saviour if she is sinless? There are also many mentions of the breath of life in the bible and it comes from God, not Mary.
@auxtas
@auxtas 4 жыл бұрын
As a Catholic, Cameron has been in my top 10 KZfaqrs. Good conversation and awesome display of our brotherhood in Christ. Peace and love.
@dominicboever3441
@dominicboever3441 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Fradd is epic
@kennys1wife
@kennys1wife 4 жыл бұрын
Why would Jesus get baptised if it didn't matter? Jesus led by example.
@jeffengstrom5363
@jeffengstrom5363 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't example that was primary. Rather, the doctrine of imputation. Christs righteousness is applied to the believing sinner. This would include his baptism. Remember He was doing it to fulfill all righteousness not to set an example.
@D0csavage1
@D0csavage1 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus’ baptism was not the Christian baptism He later instituted. Jesus’ baptism was instead a royal anointing of the Son of David (Jesus) conferred by a Levite (John the Baptist) to reveal Christ to Israel, as it was foreshadowed in 1 Kings 1:39 when the Son of David (Solomon) was anointed by the Levitical priest Zadok.
@Joe-uw5rv
@Joe-uw5rv 4 жыл бұрын
kennys1wife It was not be cleansed but to cleanse the waters of baptism.
@kennys1wife
@kennys1wife 4 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-uw5rv He set the example AND at the same time it was to sanctify baptism as a sacrament (gift). So, I completely agree with you. ❤️
@MrSiloterio
@MrSiloterio 4 жыл бұрын
How did the criminal at the cross get to be in Paradise without being baptized?
@TheBrunarr
@TheBrunarr 4 жыл бұрын
I love how open and honest Cameron is. He's never afraid to say if he's undecided on a certain issue and is willing to listen to other people.
@em1694_
@em1694_ 4 жыл бұрын
“I’m a catholic and bad with the Bible.” Thanks for the laugh Matt 😂 as a Catholic myself I found that funny.
@Kman.
@Kman. 4 жыл бұрын
...and Cameron graciously listed him as an "apologist". Catholic teaching is unbiblical in e/sense.
@alskarmode
@alskarmode 4 жыл бұрын
Kman considering the Catholic church gave us the bible, that’s laughable
@Kman.
@Kman. 4 жыл бұрын
@@alskarmode That's a mouthful, but not truthful. If catholics *GAVE* us the bible, why is it that they attempted to keep the bible *FROM* the people for so long? * aloha.net/~mikesch/banned.htm* History notes, that bibles had to be smuggled to people for a long time. When they were found, they were burned...people imprisoned and even burned at the stake for possessing a bible. Who carried all that out? The catholic church. If catholics gave us the bible (The Council of Hippo in 393 I assume you'd suggest?), how is it that New Testament books had been already accepted and used hundreds of years *BEFORE* the council convened? Furthermore, the Council of Nicea in 325 had referenced the *"CANON"* and the Council of Laodicea in 363 had said that *ONLY* the "canonized" books were to be read in the church. . If catholics are responsible for the bible, why can't we find teachings that support all you believe? I know you'd like to point to verses to try and support things like transubstantiation, etc but for the time being, where do you anchor the teaching of the infallibility of the pope? And did you misspeak in saying catholics gave us the *BIBLE* ? The *JEWS* gave us the Old Testament, with the Septuagant being put together about 250 years before Christ even came along. So you can't claim that the bible only has it's power and authority by its express permission, nor can you claim that it's only here due to the catholic church, sorry. The whole line of thought is nothing more than circular reasoning, where you claim the bible is here by way of the catholic church, and the church is here, and has as its foundation because of the bible. You're attempting to put the catholic church above the Word of God, but it's the *WORD* that's inspired, not the words/works of any group of catholics. Catholics didn't officially come together until long after Christ. This is just another attempt to exalt catholic tradition, the catholic church, and what the pope says above the Word of God. · II Tim 3:16 "All *scripture* is given by inspiration of God..." · Matt 24:35 "...my *words* shall not pass away." · I Pet 1:25 "But the *word* of the Lord endureth for ever."
@albertdevasahayam6781
@albertdevasahayam6781 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kman. You need to read an objective history of the Canon of the Bible. If you do so, you cannot escape the fact that it was the Catholic Church that was instrumental in making and canonising the Christian Bible. The Church did not prevent people from reading the Bible; what it did was to prevent the abuse of the Bible by heretics. Though the Catholic Church gave us the Bible, it is not above the Bible, but it is the custodian of the Bible and has the final authority in interpreting its meaning. It can be proved easily today that all the teachings of the Catholic Church are consistent with the Bible. But if Protestants don't agree with the Catholic position, the former don't become right and the latter wrong. The final authority in interpreting the Bible rests with the Catholic Church.
@Kman.
@Kman. 4 жыл бұрын
@@albertdevasahayam6781 You opened with an assumption that I've not read from objective sources (who knows how you even define that, or who those sources may be?), but you added to that a number of inaccuracies with what you said. Don't you find it strange, that one of the church fathers that ya'll point to (Eusebius), did not even agree on *II Peter* being a part of the canon, yet you want to hold up the church fathers as being authoritative? Which is it? Nevertheless, you conclude with a heretical statement, suggesting that the catholic church is not just the custodian, but also _THEE_ final authority. I find that "strange" too for you to say that, because it contradicts your _PRIOR_ statement where you state the catholic church does *NOT* usurp biblical doctrine
@Mr.Truxton
@Mr.Truxton 4 жыл бұрын
Gosh there's so many Catholics here.... :D I just wanna say, as a protestant (Lutheran) also appreciate this discussion, I agree with the catholic guy on some things, still disagree with others. But this is great that we as christians can talk about these things.
@Mr.Truxton
@Mr.Truxton 4 жыл бұрын
@@Psalm34rws What an ignorant and snarky thing to say. Scripture is the authority, and we do take the early fathers into account, but of course they are not infallible. There's many interpretations of the fathers too, that's the issue.
@Mr.Truxton
@Mr.Truxton 4 жыл бұрын
@@Psalm34rws I don't think Luther really invented anything. I see penal substitution, sola scriptura etc in the early fathers. The problem is that you can interpret the fathers in many ways, just like scripture. You just repeated a bunch of catholic catchphrases, that's all. And I've had these same conversations too many times to care anymore. I just posted a lighthearted post about this video and you just want to argue. The fact is, what you now call the Roman Catholic church is not the same church Athanasius, Iranaeus, Augustine and others were a part of. They're not just your fathers. They are fathers of the christian faith in general. I don't want to argue anymore, because that was not my intention from that comment. Maybe later or elsewhere. God bless your day.
@susyalvarez07
@susyalvarez07 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Truxton I concur with you in that the Bible can be interpreted in many ways. So, I ask you in the kindest way possible, do you believe that in God's infinite wisdom this fact was ignored by Him? Do you believe He would leave us without instituting an authoritative interpreter of scripture? He talked plenty about how he came to build His church. Here's one of the verses in the bible on the church's authority. 1 Timothy 3:15: "The household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth." Now, as Peter was appointed the first leader of Christians and Catholics have apostolic succession all the way to Peter, wouldn't it make sense to be a a Catholic? The catholic church is far from perfect, I am fully aware, yet it has authority and so many blessings, like the sacraments, for you to live Jesus fully! ❤️
@Mr.Truxton
@Mr.Truxton 4 жыл бұрын
@@susyalvarez07 Explain me why there was so many different opinions going around even at the start of the church, why did God let the Arians to exist? There's differences even amongst the fathers. Of course I believe that the core christian beliefs are found in the fathers and there is an area of agreement between them. But I don't think the church has the authority to make up doctrines such as the bodily assumption of Mary, or the purgatory without evidence in scripture. This is where the differences are. And I can enjoy the sacraments in the Lutheran church, thank you. I can receive his body and blood just like you.
@susyalvarez07
@susyalvarez07 4 жыл бұрын
@mr. Truxton God allowed Arians to exist for the same reason you and I are able to take decision every day, I.e. due to free will and in being so, out of that came good, in that because of it the church got together in the Council of Nicea and the doctrin of the Holy Trinity was established, so if today you do believe in the Holy Trinity, that's where it came from! And for the statement that things can't be considered true if they're not in the Bible, I'd like to ask where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the o. n. l. y. source of truth? Albeit, it's mere truth in and of itself, for sure. 🙌
@CristinaaaMx
@CristinaaaMx Жыл бұрын
AND NOW U ARE CATHOLIC, CAM!!!! CONGRAAATTTSSS 😃😃😃 GLORY TO GOD ❤❤❤🕇🕇🕇
@deovolente6025
@deovolente6025 4 жыл бұрын
Respect Cameron, for having a Catholic on your show. Be careful dude, you might come home to the Church soon...😁
@masterchief8179
@masterchief8179 4 жыл бұрын
Deo Volente Nothing to be careful about. God wanted us in ONE faith, ONE baptism, ONE Lord, and that is the reason we have to be both ONE in spirit, but also ONE in body. That protestant eclesiology did some twisting in things is real, but does not take anything from the marvelous christians they may be. It’s just a point of knowing what God concieves as the UNIFICATION of His People - this cannot come without the visible reality and should not come but fundamentally attacking spiritual authority of the Church. Greetings from Brazil
@jess_the_mess7816
@jess_the_mess7816 3 жыл бұрын
@GOD SEES YOU!!!! nice copy paste, and strawman you got there. I'm sure you'll be spending a lot of time pulling chaff out of your hair.....
@ernestpadilla9095
@ernestpadilla9095 3 жыл бұрын
Then if it happens, being Italian and catholic will make total sense. Lol 😂😂😂
@ritachikata
@ritachikata Жыл бұрын
Well he did! He came home!
@joelkelly4154
@joelkelly4154 4 жыл бұрын
You can't interpret a book, especially an ancient book, without knowing its cultural context, which is contained in the Christian writers of the first two or three centuries.
@joelkelly4154
@joelkelly4154 4 жыл бұрын
@demigodzilla even from a secular perspective, I'm not sure I agree with this. So few texts from the ancient world have even survived. The fact that we're even still talking about the Bible is significant. It has been selected for preservation among thousands of texts which have disappeared, and it will probably outlast the both of us.
@tylerpedersen9836
@tylerpedersen9836 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, many of the early Church fathers got a lot of things terribly confused... all kinds of syncretism early on
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerpedersen9836 No, the Church Fathers teach us how the apostles interpreted things. At least two of them, Polycarp and Ignatius of Antioh, knew the apostle John personally, and Ignatius knew the apostle Peter personally.
@moorek1967
@moorek1967 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerpedersen9836 There are things to question about your way of thinking. OK, all the first believers were straight out of Judaism, meaning that they fully knew and understood scripture. They knew the prophets and all the messianic prophecies. So as they were first called Christians by their enemies, the mere fact they had enemies means there was something to it . Their first enemies were among the ruling Jewish Pharisees. They wouldn't have had those enemies if they weren't seen as a threat to Pharisaical rule. So why would they have been a threat to the point that Paul persecuted them even killing some? Why would the Christians be killed if they were just another sect? Not one single Roman, Greek, Egyptian or Persian ever equated Jesus with any of their gods and none of their religions and the mere fact that Christianity was illegal in an empire that tolerated all kinds of pagan religions, but did not tolerate Christianity means that Christianity was so radically different that it was a threat to the empire. There would have been no reason to kill a group of people because of "syncretism" because the Romans considered it not a Roman religion, neither Hellenistic. So why would this one group of people get singled out if there was nothing to it? You can't even say because they were traitors because traitors were called traitors and that was broadly across the empire to all groups, but Christianity was illegal and a death penalty, they weren't killed for being traitors, they were specifically killed for being Christians. Why would Tacitus even mention the investigation and interrogation of those suspected of being Christian, unless Christianity was something that challenged Rome. For a such a small group in the beginning, they were marked at the beginning for their doctrines, which was Christ is God and the Trinity. If it were mere paganism, then why weren't the Mathraists not persecuted or illegal? They believed Mithras as god, so to say believing in god is the reason, Christians should not have been persecuted. That tells you something that the early Christians were illegal and under a death penalty for being identified as Christians, not as traitors.
@tylerpedersen9836
@tylerpedersen9836 4 жыл бұрын
My statement is not an indictment of the early Christian thinkers, far from it. All I'm pointing out is that some influence from the surrounding culture (gnosticism, paganism, etc.) did impact the doctrinal formulations found in their writings (I think especially of Origen, who leaned towards universalism, and Justin Martyr). Of course, I believe they were Christians and we have much to learn from them...
@ZacharyCath
@ZacharyCath 4 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants to acquire a deeper understanding of Catholicism, I HIGHLY recommend listening to *Fr. Chad Ripperger* , who's also an experienced exorcist. Multiple degrees, including a P.h.D in Philosophy who breaks down a ton of complex topics. Other great non-clergy Catholics to listen to, that aren't as complex, are *Brant Pitre* (for scriptural analysis) and *Trent Horn* (apologetics). EDIT: Also, *Keith Nester* is great for Protestant minded people. Formerly a pastor himself. They have helped me tremendously in coming to the faith. God Bless.
@mrniceguy3006
@mrniceguy3006 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary what do you mean they helped you by “coming to faith”? Is it that you had doubts? Or did he explain the gospel to you?
@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns
@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns 4 жыл бұрын
Mr nice,
@ZacharyCath
@ZacharyCath 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrniceguy3006 I had some very soft ideas about doctrine, a shallow understanding. But, I now know that there's more to the faith than what's offered in other "expressions" or "interpretations" of Christianity. That's what I mean. I came to what's called the "deposit of faith". Not to offend any Protestants, but I'm not going to lie. Ideas like "sola scriptura" and "sola fide" aren't coherent, and they don't convince people to live like "Saints" and to glorify Christ. I was missing out on the fullness of the faith. A relationship with Christ that runs deeper than ideas and passions, but *complete* through sacramental grace and devotion. Yet, even through "works" of devotion, we aren't saved by our own doing, it's all because of Christ and his mercy. That's why pride is a vice. It's a deeper understanding of the scriptures, and a justified faith in the living God who still works through the One Holy Apostolic Church to ensure that the truth (called dogma) is uncorrupted over time. Note: This isn't even to say that most Catholics are saved. Heck, there are many Catholics who don't have faith in the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ in the Eucharist and that is a clear cut dogma of the Church. Many "profess" his name but few actually take up their cross and live out righteousness. He provides the grace, now we must put our trust in him and live accordingly. It is our job to purify ourselves as much as we can before we step foot before God. That's what "works" are. It...works and grace, the faith, starts with the Church.
@mrniceguy3006
@mrniceguy3006 4 жыл бұрын
Zachary That’s pretty cool. As I’m reading your post, I can in my mind put scriptures to what your are saying. It seems that the Catholics I meet don’t have a love for God, or Jesus or the things of God as you’re saying you do. Your expressing to have a great desire and love for God that I don’t see in Catholics where I live. Honestly, I know some who go to Protestant churches who don’t express that desire to walk deeper with Jesus. For me, I love to meet others who share the same love I do. The Holy Spirit leads me to desire the word of God, convicts me when my thoughts aren’t in line with the heart of God as I’ve learned Him to be through His word. So I don’t understand your point on needing convincing to live like saints, that seems foreign to my ears . I learn about the Lord, His desires His hates, like the word of God says, abhor what is evil and love what is good? I find that also in the word of God.
@ZacharyCath
@ZacharyCath 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrniceguy3006 I appreciate and understand what you're saying. We probably agree more than many people do within their own "sect"! In the case of Saints, none of us are perfect and we still all fall short of the glory of God. In those cases, where we're struggling with certain persistent problems, having the Saints is helpful in correcting ourselves. But, for sure, scripture and the model of Christ is sufficient in correcting our behavior as long as it's properly understood. But, the lives of the Saints may be found more applicable to our situation. It's simply important, for a lot of people to acquire help from someone, who had similar dispositions to us that is in Heaven. Ex. I know I struggle with pride, therefore I call upon a Saint who overcame that struggle and see how they modeled their life. But no more on that, I actually wrote another whole lengthy write up on that in another place in this comment section lol. What Catholicism offers as its main truth is the complete Sacramentals in which we are redeemed, healed, and generally live out his graces. We are Baptized, Confirmed, receive the Eucharist weekly (continually restoring grace), perform Penance, Marriage, etc. But there's so much more to add, yet, I cannot catechize someone with the full knowledge of the faith in simply one sitting. I only hope that everyone continues to seek the one true God in every case in life. Thanks for reading and God bless you!
@thatright4985
@thatright4985 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Catholic and so thankful you both had this conversation in charity and not in some sort of rivalry. Praised be Jesus Christ!
@wilsoneusebio777
@wilsoneusebio777 3 жыл бұрын
Protestant sects are neither evangelical nor Christian. Only the Catholic church is truly Christian and Evangelical. The others claim to be evangelical, but they are not. Example: The Gospel of John 6, 48-71 says that JESUS ​​truly dwells in consecrated bread and wine, but Protestants deny the real presence and only say that it is a symbol. The Gospel of John never says that it is a symbol. Like John 20, 21-23 and James 5, 16 JESUS ​​gives his church the power to forgive sins, Protestants say no, that they do not confess and that men cannot forgive sins and thus contradict the word of God !! John 2, 1 says that Mary intercedes even when JESUS ​​has no plans to perform a miracle, Protestants contradict the gospel and say no. John 17, 20-26: Be one as the father and I are one, be united, but the Protestants were divided from the church and between them they are divided into more than 66,000 sects. John 19, 26-27 He says that JESUS ​​gave his mother Mary as a mother to his disciple John and equal to the church, is a spiritual mother. Protestants say no. Matthew 16, 18-19 JESUS ​​gave authority over the other apostles to Peter and left him as the main leader of the church, as pope, father or leader. Like Isaiah 22, 20-22, he says that when a king gives the keys to his servant, that happens to be a father to the community, JESUS ​​is king of kings and his community is the church, that's why the Catholic church has a pope. In Matthew 25, 31-46 JESUS ​​criticizes very strongly those who do not do works for others, and Protestants criticize the Catholic church because it teaches that good works must be done. Protestants teach that we are saved only by grace, when in truth it is that we were saved in the past, JESUS ​​gave himself on the cross by grace and saved us, but want us to do good works. Ephesians 2, 8-9. The key is in verse 10 that they don't read and in another book that Luther tried to eliminate because he gives reason to the Catholic church and contradicts that evil heresy. That book is that of James because in Chapter 2, 14-26 it says that faith without works is a dead faith. And ask. Can that faith save him without works? Even stronger is what JESUS ​​will say about the works on the day of judgment. Matthew 25, 31-46. This is only a summary of the gospels, if we were other topics in the apostolic letters, we will also see other contradictions of the Protestants to the gospel of JESUS ​​CHRIST! The cross, moving to another faith, prayer to the dead, purgatory, repeated prayers, the images, they say that Mary had more children, they say that the bible is the truth and the bible itself says that the CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of the Truth 1 Timothy 3, 15. They say it does not matter to be in any church etc ... All contrary to what the word of God teaches! kzfaq.info/love/PQA0iLLJm-NJCYfngzsk4Q
@luiszapata6864
@luiszapata6864 Жыл бұрын
Long way but with a really happy ending, very warm welcome Cameron
@filiusvivam4315
@filiusvivam4315 4 жыл бұрын
Catholic here. I enjoyed the discussion.
@Sam-up4uj
@Sam-up4uj 3 жыл бұрын
“We’re all reading the same Bible...... basically.” Made me laugh. 😂
@faithofourfathers
@faithofourfathers 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion! Thank you for have Matt Fradd on! Peace.
@USMC98
@USMC98 4 жыл бұрын
I almost became protestant once. It was the scariest experience of my life, once I found out the truth, that is the Catholic Church.
@arkinthedark3674
@arkinthedark3674 4 жыл бұрын
So was you becoming Protestant "the truth" or Catholic; that was worded horribly
@USMC98
@USMC98 4 жыл бұрын
@@arkinthedark3674 edited.
@teachasp6316
@teachasp6316 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you find Protestantism scary? Not being polemical; I'm actually interested.
@raymolina7914
@raymolina7914 4 жыл бұрын
@@USMC98 Well, I encourage you to be a protestant. I will just ask you one thing. ¿What is the gospel?
@AJ_Jingco
@AJ_Jingco 4 жыл бұрын
@@teachasp6316 Protestantism is really scary for me since IF I left the Catholic Church. I WOULDN'T know which Protestant denomination I would go to.
@Wlof25
@Wlof25 4 жыл бұрын
Get in contact with The Counsel of Trent. It would be a good discussion.
@adamduarte895
@adamduarte895 4 жыл бұрын
Wlof25 Council*
@philotheos251
@philotheos251 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Duarte Lol, he’s talking about Catholic apologist, Trent Horn’s KZfaq channel.
@adamduarte895
@adamduarte895 4 жыл бұрын
Philo Theos i was just trying to be funny lol 😂
@t.l.ciottoli4319
@t.l.ciottoli4319 4 жыл бұрын
The Council of Trent used forgeries: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/esmKataUyuCZiKc.html
@zacharyvandress1120
@zacharyvandress1120 4 жыл бұрын
@@t.l.ciottoli4319 that website is a Protestant website. Why on Earth would it tell the truth about a Catholic console that was called to reaffirm Catholic Doctrine because of the Protestant Reformation?
@mayg9197
@mayg9197 4 жыл бұрын
Before i found this video, i watched this, "Former Protestant Pastor tells why he LOVES being Catholic - Keith Nester" which is great in connection to this video. And this is what i learned upon listening to Keith, "About Saints Book of Revelation describes their prayers are offered up to GOD like incense. Hebrews 12 - We are surrounded by great cloud of witnesses (Saints) especially The Blessed Mother. "
@nowthatimcatholic3640
@nowthatimcatholic3640 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video and the respectful tone throughout
@mariem8280
@mariem8280 3 жыл бұрын
Cameron, may God bless you, you're a trailblazer. Love your show. Protestant or Catholic, we're both on the same side, Jesus' side. Please continue doing what you do. We pray daily for the unity of all Christians.
@chamberlain8857
@chamberlain8857 4 жыл бұрын
I wish so badly to see a discussion like this between mike winger and trent horn. Especially about authority of the church and its interpretation.
@andrewmedina7588
@andrewmedina7588 4 жыл бұрын
ru Rupee that would epic.
@flyingbanana9712
@flyingbanana9712 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Medina Trent Horn is a national Treasure
@Daniel_Abraham1099
@Daniel_Abraham1099 4 жыл бұрын
Dang bro shoo that would be lit🤣🤣
@christophekeating21
@christophekeating21 4 жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt it. After "serious research" Mike Winger claimed Roman Catholics rebaptize those baptized in other denominations.
@ericgatera7149
@ericgatera7149 4 жыл бұрын
This debate or dialogue between Trent and Winger would be indeed enlightening. Especially since Winger has done a series attacking the Catholic Christian faith in his church, and Trent went on to rebut two of his presentation in his own channel (Council of Trent). I guess a face to face might clear couple of things straight away! 😇
@ericgatera7149
@ericgatera7149 4 жыл бұрын
There is this Catholic theologian, Dr. Brant Pitre, who is also refreshingly orginal. He isn't an apologist, but my goodness, he is a storehouse of wisdom and knowledge about Church doctrines and Church history, especially in early Christianity. You should try sometime to get him for a dialogue.
@lilykateri2234
@lilykateri2234 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Get Brant Pitre on!
@cotaryan3740
@cotaryan3740 4 жыл бұрын
His historical knowledge on the Jewish roots of Mary and on the Eucharist are life changing. No doubt you can remain a Protestant after reading his material. The Bread of Life discourse is mind blowing when understood from Jewish perspective
@roxanardh
@roxanardh 4 жыл бұрын
I ❤ Dr. Pitre
@illumoportetcresceremeaute887
@illumoportetcresceremeaute887 4 жыл бұрын
@@cotaryan3740 I think you meant "no way you can remain protestant..." I agree. Pitre's Jewish Roots series is the absolute best modern exegesis available
@rae-michellel6878
@rae-michellel6878 4 жыл бұрын
I love Brant Pitre!!! Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist is life changing!
@AidanJuly
@AidanJuly 4 жыл бұрын
This is Beautiful , how can't we all be like these two friends , talk about religion and not fight about differing views.
@michaelroy6630
@michaelroy6630 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't been this intrigued by a theological discussion for a while. And big ups to Capturing Christianity for posing his questions so respectfully and with a genuine desire for truth.
@timeforprovidence
@timeforprovidence 4 жыл бұрын
Love this! So much appreciate this video!!! Thank you so much!
@Alexander-fr1kk
@Alexander-fr1kk 4 жыл бұрын
Catholics can’t earn or buy their way to Heaven, they have to live their faith... to live their faith is a work, it’s an action, a verb :-)
@whoahorseywhoa4685
@whoahorseywhoa4685 3 жыл бұрын
we dont do that.... you say we do... WE DONT... but of course no one can budge you from your stubborn belief that we do..
@Alexander-fr1kk
@Alexander-fr1kk 3 жыл бұрын
@@whoahorseywhoa4685 I’m a little confused with your response... you’re saying my statement about having to live our faith is incorrect? Please explain, thanks. I keep re-reading this and it must have been directed at another comment because Catholics do earn their way to heaven by living their faith - it’s not earned as in checking off boxes or paying people off... that’s Protestant misinformation...ignorance really. God bless.
@hamsarris8341
@hamsarris8341 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander-fr1kk protestant or catholic, works do not earn you salvation. It's true the bible says faith without works is dead, but works do not earn salvation. Salvation is alone, in the cleansing of sin by the perfect sacrifice Jesus Christ.
@Alexander-fr1kk
@Alexander-fr1kk 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamsarris8341 Well, no. The Bible clearly states to continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. It’s not a one and done. Yes it’s a free gift, but gifts can be received and lost or rejected. We cannot “earn” our way into heaven, Jesus paid for that, but we do have to live our faith to “earn” that gift.
@menknurlan
@menknurlan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander-fr1kk no our works are the fruit of our faith. If truely saved, if truely converted, if truely wanting to follow Jesus, a christian WILL do good works because he LOVES God ans his commands because God gave him a new heart which WANTS to do his will. This all is the fruit/result of a true conversion. Its something that will undeniably happen when one gets SAVED. One is already saved when this happens. Good works are the fruit of the faith. One who claims to be saved but doenst follow Gods law or do as he commands is a false convert. Hense why James says that our faith is shown in our works. But these works are not the CAUSE or REASON for our salvation. Only our faith is
@JBBenna
@JBBenna 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video. Love both your channels so it’s fun to see you speaking about these common misconceptions.
@enniomojica7812
@enniomojica7812 4 жыл бұрын
The protestant said that it doesnt matter to him and most protestants what the early Christians believed because the early Christians werent infallible, only the scriptures are infallible. But it was those same early Christians who declared which writings were inspired by God. But if they were fallible men then what confidence can a protestant have that the canon of scripture they chose is truly infallible if they were chosen by "fallible men"?? He and all protestants who follow that reasoning are contradicting themselves.
@chuarh7393
@chuarh7393 4 жыл бұрын
Saying early Christians were fallible does not mean all of their theology was wrong. There are some truths to their beliefs but not all of it is of God. Scripture has remained the same since they were written but some interpretations by man are subject to fallibility
@ea-tr1jh
@ea-tr1jh 4 жыл бұрын
You are assuming that people chose which books are in the Bible.
@enniomojica7812
@enniomojica7812 4 жыл бұрын
@@ea-tr1jh I'm not assuming. I know. The books of today's canon were individually selected by the catholic bishops united with Pope damasus in AD 382 in the synod of Rome.
@Normicgander
@Normicgander 4 жыл бұрын
Read Scott Hahn's book "The Fourth Cup."
@am101171
@am101171 4 жыл бұрын
The standard account for how the saints are aware of our prayers is that, because they have the beatific vision of God, they see in God all of the knowledge they need, all of the knowledge that is relevant to them, and so they see our prayers to them. On the standard account is thus by the omniscience of God that they become aware of our prayers, though they themselves are never omniscient and never take in the full scope of God’s knowledge, only those parts that are relevant to them
@DanielMaloneJr
@DanielMaloneJr 4 жыл бұрын
Amen I’m slightly disappointed he didn’t answer that
@christian_gamer_guy6447
@christian_gamer_guy6447 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, that's not Biblical though. So its just, at the very best, something that's made up because there is no proper answer to why or how that is done. The Bible says that Jesus himself is our intercessor. Pray to God, and ask your physical community to pray with you, but don't pray to dead people (hopefully alive in Christ people)
@jvp1286
@jvp1286 4 жыл бұрын
@@christian_gamer_guy6447 Never in the Bible does it say the Bible alone is sufficient
@RussianBot4Christ
@RussianBot4Christ 4 жыл бұрын
Right, is says the Holy Spirit is sufficient, not Peter.
@christian_gamer_guy6447
@christian_gamer_guy6447 4 жыл бұрын
@@jvp1286 Sufficient for what? We are given God's very Spirit, and the words of Jesus himself as help in interpreting scripture. Why would you go outside of scripture, and look to some man who a shady tradition says has the one and only authority to interpret God's word? We are told to test everything and hold fast to what is good.... How can we "test everything" if we are unable to read God's word for ourselves?
@DennisVSyoutube
@DennisVSyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome discussion. Thanks guys. God bless you both
@BloodhawkProductions
@BloodhawkProductions 4 жыл бұрын
seek to understand before you're understood.... great conversation... Love Matt Fradd, he got me hooked on Saint Aquinas, and has helped me with Catholic apologetics aswell. Great Catholic brother in Christ.
@BlazingLove316
@BlazingLove316 4 жыл бұрын
As a recovering Catholic I absolutely feel it is good to dialog about salvific issues.
@stewartcollins948
@stewartcollins948 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean by "recovering Catholic"? As in you were once Catholic and are now protestant? Or that you were a lapsed Catholic and have returned to the Church?
@BlazingLove316
@BlazingLove316 4 жыл бұрын
Stewart Collins Yes no problem. What I mean by recovering Catholic is that I was Roman Catholic but now I do not practice.
@acnowmc7749
@acnowmc7749 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see more dialog with our separated protestant brothers. At our death we will all know the true Church.
@live_free_or_die7260
@live_free_or_die7260 3 жыл бұрын
"Blessed among women are you, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?"
@markcampolo577
@markcampolo577 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for doing this ! god bless you all !!! I would like to see more of this in the future !
@dylan2905
@dylan2905 4 жыл бұрын
Eph 6:18; Rom 15:30; Col 4:3; 1 Thess 1:11 - intercessory prayer Jos 5:14; Dan 8:17; Tob 12:16 - veneration of angels united with God (Mt 18:10) 1 Cor 13:12; 1 John 3:2 - saints also united with God Rev 5:8; Rev 8:3-4 - saints in heaven presenting to the Lamb the prayers of those on earth 1 Pet 3:21 - baptism now saves you Acts 2:38-39 - “Repent and be baptized... this promise is for you and your children.” James 2:24 - not justified by faith alone James 2:26 - faith without works is dead Gal 5:6 - we must have “faith working in love” Phil 2:12; 2 Cor 5:10; Rom 2:6-10, 13, 3:31; Mt 25:32-46; Gal 6:6-10; Rev 20:12 - works have merit Mt 26:26-27; Mk 14:22,24; Lk 22:19-20; 1 Cor 10:24-25 - “This is my Body...This is my Blood.” 1 Cor 5:7 - “Christ our Passover has been sacrificed for us, therefore let us keep the feast” (i.e. the Eucharist) 1 Cor 10:16 - eating Eucharist is participation or communion with the Body and Blood of Christ. 1 Cor 11:26-30 - unworthy eating is sinning against the Body and Blood of Christ Acts 2:42 - “breaking of bread” refers to Eucharist
@jumokeonifade85
@jumokeonifade85 4 жыл бұрын
If you read James 2:26 in full context you will see that he was talking about specific people before Christ died on the cross, and most importantly this scripture is not about salvation it’s about behaviour and conduct and demonstration of faith. When you give your life to Christ, your behaviour is evident of your salvation and not something you combine to get salvation Ephesians 2:9 not by works but by faith lest a man should boast. And your scriptures about faith without works is dead is one of the most grossly misinterpreted scriptures ever. That scriptures mentions nothing about salvation but how you should treat your brother. You have to read things into context. I’m sure o would find more misinterpretation scriptures in your comment but start here
@jumokeonifade85
@jumokeonifade85 4 жыл бұрын
I notice some of your translations are a little off? Galatians 5:6 says expressing in love and all of your scriptures you’ve given as an example of how we should treat one another which no1 disagrees with but again none of your scriptures talks about salvation
@user-rz8vp1bd2y
@user-rz8vp1bd2y 4 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@Fadi.N
@Fadi.N 4 жыл бұрын
Most ancient Churches in my country, Iraq, and also in Syria, Turkey and the Holy Land have Saints relics and are filled with Saints icons. Do you think that all these christians didn't pray to saints! Were they all wrong all this time? PS. I love you guys both, and Matt hope you bring back some of our brothers and sisters back to the true church.
@brando3342
@brando3342 4 жыл бұрын
@Fadi N Hello friend. I appreciate Matt's zeal for Christ, but I also think he really quickly dodged from my question at 47:30. I was asking because, at that point you would have to be the one who decides in your mind who is or isn't in heaven or hell and THEN ask them for prayers. He said he wouldn't pray to them, because they might be in Hell. So, who tells you who you should and shouldn't pray to? In my view, it causes men to join the catholic church for self promotion and not Christ promotion. If the Pope as a symbol is supposed to be an icon of a "proper Christian" or "holy father", then people are more likely to assume they are in heaven, if we are saved by grace. How do we know people aren't joining the priesthood, in order to gain some special position as a saint who can be prayed to? How does this not introduce a stumbling block of pride between God and his people?
@philotheos251
@philotheos251 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Read St. John of Damascus - defender of Icons.
@namapalsu2364
@namapalsu2364 4 жыл бұрын
@@brando3342 For Catholic and Orthodox (and maybe some anglican and traditional Lutheran) we know who are in heaven because the infallible Church told us so. So, we don't decide for ourselves. Specifically for Catholic, the pope would declare officially (the process of canonization) which person is raised to sainthood, which means he/she is in heaven.
@brando3342
@brando3342 4 жыл бұрын
@@namapalsu2364 Thanks, I responded on my comment.
@namapalsu2364
@namapalsu2364 4 жыл бұрын
@@brando3342 Let's move the discussion there.
@SamKnotts
@SamKnotts 4 жыл бұрын
So important to evangelization of the world for Catholics and Protestants to talk to each other.
@otakusoulemotion
@otakusoulemotion 4 жыл бұрын
God bless both of you brothers for having this discussion!
@Alex45590
@Alex45590 4 жыл бұрын
Proud Christian catholic here, and I always ask for the intersection of Mother Mary and all the saints ❤️
@shawnbenson7696
@shawnbenson7696 3 жыл бұрын
If you can ask the king to answer your prayers, why pray to the 3rd footwaaher
@jeanjacquessenghor7519
@jeanjacquessenghor7519 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you Guys i am non denominational and love to see christians togethers may the lord bless you brothers and sisters
@classicalteacher
@classicalteacher 4 жыл бұрын
That's so weird. Non denominational. I consider Catholicism to be the denominator. And everything else to be the numerator. Since all Christian divisions have some part of the fullness of Truth, which is the Catholic Church. It just makes me sad that people make up their own Theology and religion and call it non denominational.
@chamberlain8857
@chamberlain8857 Жыл бұрын
Camerons conversion began here I cant believe its been 2 years already.
@MichaelVarcade
@MichaelVarcade Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite aspects of the Eucharist and the rejection of it some Christians have, is that it requires the most Faith to believe in. With all the talk about Faith and Salvation, there is something beautiful about the fact that the Eucharist, the centerpiece of our mass, is by far the most difficult to logically understand. It requires the Faith of a child to believe in. By that I mean complete trust in God. I find that beautiful.
@philotheos251
@philotheos251 4 жыл бұрын
If you guys want an excellent introduction to the Marian and Eucharistic dogmas, I highly recommend reading: ‘Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary,’ and ‘Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist,’ by Brant Pitre. There are other books of course, but he explains it very well and simply.
@rinjaminbutton
@rinjaminbutton 4 жыл бұрын
maybe you air quoted "protestant" bc it's only for a little while longer ;)
@tezi21
@tezi21 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully he comes home to the one true Church!
@quondamchoir6615
@quondamchoir6615 4 жыл бұрын
Rinjamin Button Exactly what I was thinking
@lxvelyheav3n132
@lxvelyheav3n132 4 жыл бұрын
Theresa We are the church of christ. Not a building.
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 3 жыл бұрын
No, it’s because we don’t generally call ourselves that. I talk to Catholics quite often, and study Catholic doctrine. I think of myself as “reformed with Calvinist leanings, extremely conservative Lutheran”. Lol. I get it’s a lot, however, it covers where my doctrine best fits. “Protestant” can mean anything - even something as disgusting as hyper-charismatic or Word of Faith (Paula White or Kenneth Copeland types).
@hamsarris8341
@hamsarris8341 3 жыл бұрын
@@KristiLEvans1 yeah, I just say "I don't twist the bible or stretch things", but I also don't say I'm "protestant".
@lovevirtuegifts
@lovevirtuegifts Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. I appreciate both of you!
@agihernandez7846
@agihernandez7846 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview. One of my first audio book I listen was of Matt about dialogue and apologetics 101.
@Alexander-fr1kk
@Alexander-fr1kk 4 жыл бұрын
Revelation says the Saints in Heaven are offering up our prayers to God and there’s another verse in Hebrews.
@sunpro9146
@sunpro9146 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Conversation
@christiesworld90
@christiesworld90 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Matt is so knowledgeable I learnt alot as a Catholic here! Keep such conversations going...
@thankfullyforgiven9611
@thankfullyforgiven9611 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this discussion. I have been a Christian for many years, but it’s such a blessing to learn more about the Catholic Faith. Honestly, I was clueless, but I look so forward to learning more about their beliefs. Thanks gentlemen. Keep letting the love of Jesus shine through you. You’re a blessing.
@davidjulian8643
@davidjulian8643 4 жыл бұрын
Pints with CAPTURING CHRISTIANITY
@aleksandragieralt7370
@aleksandragieralt7370 4 жыл бұрын
For why Catholics revere Mary as much as we do, I'd answer it this way: When I was younger, I had a WWJD bracelet ("What would Jesus do") - the problem was, the answer more often than not was "perform a miracle." Mary, on the other hand, never performed a miracle herself (miracles happened around her, but the Bible makes it very clear God - either as Father, Son or Spirit - cause the miracle - Mary was either a witness, intercessor or the person the miracle happened to). Catholics revere Mary because she is the best of humanity, the closest a person can get to being Christ-like. She was born without original sin, was willing to risk rejection and martyrdom many times for her Son's sake (she could have been stoned for having a Son out of wedlock, and, again, she could have been crucified alongside Jesus - Saint Peter knew this too well and ended up denying Christ). Furthermore, she is a fulfillment of many Old Testament prophecies and the new Eve in the sense that God promised Eve she would crush the head of the serpent, and Mary is the one to do that (she is referred to multiple times in the Bible as doing so). Mary's humanity is again important because the reason the devil rejected God and meddled into the lives of Adam and Eve, causing original sin, was that he resented the fact that God created creatures asides from angels who He loved equally and who He wanted the angels to serve. Mary becomes the Queen of Angels not because she is a "goddess" but because a human is needed to defeat and humiliate the devil, who rejected God because of God's creation of humanity. Mary also represents the church - she's the first Christian (she is the first to know about the Messiah because Gabriel announces this to her), the first disciple, the first tabernacle and church (she carries Jesus inside herself, like a church), Jesus tells John (who represents the priests/bishops as well as all of humanity) to take Mary as his mother (that is one of Jesus's last words) and Mary receives the Holy Spirit alongside the apostles). Mary therefore is a model for Christians given to us by the Bible. Finally, why we pray "to" saints and "to" Mary is explained by the story of Cana Galilee: Mary sees the struggles of the bride and groom when they run out of wine and asks Jesus to help. This is what is meant by "intercession." That's why Catholics pray "to" saints and ask other Catholics to pray for them. No one, not Mary, not Saint Paul, not the Pope, can "make a miracle" - only God can do that - but the saints can intercede for and participate in God's miracles.
@arkinthedark3674
@arkinthedark3674 4 жыл бұрын
"Because He hath regarded the humility of His handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed" (Luke 1:48).
@mayg9197
@mayg9197 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sister for this detailed explanation.
@ryanalving3785
@ryanalving3785 4 жыл бұрын
I would just like to bring up a couple things that make that position difficult for me. The first is that I don't believe Genesis actually speaks of Mary crushing the head of the serpent, but rather that Christ crushes the head of the serpent. Genesis 3:15 NAB I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel." Enmity between the serpent and the woman seems to be here, but crushing the head of the serpent seems to be the province of her Son. I'm also not certain that the Devil rebelling because of humanity is actually what happened. It seems like the Bible indicates he rebelled because he wants to be like the Most High; that he wants to be God. (Isaiah 14, Revelation 12-13) Were I to accept that defeating and humiliating the Devil through a human is a reason for Mary's exaltation, I think the purpose of that is fulfilled by the humanity of Christ. It is generally accepted that Jesus is fully God and fully human; so the Devil is defeated and humiliated by a human being. I also believe that Jesus humanity makes him our perfect human example to follow. He struggles with rejection and hate by his peers, he prays when things are difficult, and in places where he could perform a miracle he sometimes doesn't; and trusts the Father to work things out. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have other role models of how to follow Christ; just that the example of a perfect disciple appears to be Christ himself. We can learn about how to be a disciple by reading of the apostles and other strong Christians, and how to be perfect by reading of Christ. I don't see why a second immaculate example is needed. Likewise I don't think the Biblical evidence for the immaculate conception of Mary is strong, and I think it is more likely she was an ordinary woman who God did something extraordinary through. I'm also not aware of many references to Mary in the Old Testament, I know of the one in Genesis and one in Isaiah, but I don't find her mentioned very often. The title Queen of Heaven is a bit unnerving to me, because that is also what a certain idol was called in the book of Jeremiah; which the children of Israel burned incense to, so hearing it in the Catholic context is a little bit disturbing. When you mention the difference between Peter denying Christ and Mary not; I think it's important to note that when Jesus was taken *all* the disciples ran away, and Peter only denied Christ after following him to the council at a distance (something which we don't have a record of Mary doing). Mary was present at the crucifixion, but so was John, and so were some others. This wasn't a thing in which Mary was unique. I guess I'm just not sure that things are the way the Catholic Church teaches on these things. Thank you for sharing your perspective, and thank you for reading.
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said!
@Chirokea
@Chirokea 4 жыл бұрын
That is my humble view as a catholic: Mother Mary is a queen. Many see her role as irrelevant yet her mission is not to overshadow God or Jesus. Her message is always meant to bring us closer to them. Showing that we too can become kings and queens in the name of God. She is small and humble, even insignificant to some but that's what makes her even more worthy of veneration. I hope oe day, we chrstians get to overcome the issues that tear us apart
@theHentySkeptic
@theHentySkeptic 4 жыл бұрын
That was really good. Thanks guys and God bless you both!
@hopac-houseofprayerandcharity
@hopac-houseofprayerandcharity 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussion and talk. Great and humble introduction to Catholic Christianity for those that may struggle a bit with some kind of aversion. Love your neighbor, seems to be true for these buddies. Thanks!
@MrPanchoak
@MrPanchoak 4 жыл бұрын
I converted 3 years ago from protestantism to Eastern Orthodoxy. You guys did a superb job on this. Two things that i thought might make things a tad clearer. John 11:26. Jesus explains to Martha that whoever believes in him will nevrr die. So because this promise extends to all believers, the command given to continually pray for each other is still in effect even after bodily repose. And the other point is that while all of us are subject to error, and wrong at times, when we defer to the earliest Christian's. We are literally asking the fellow who got it firsthand from the source. Either from Our Lord, or from an Apostle. Iraneous, ignatious etc. These men were literally the Apostles of the origional 12. It was from they themselves who we got our own belief. It wasnt from an early hick.🤣
@barry.anderberg
@barry.anderberg 4 жыл бұрын
I love this!
@doldier
@doldier 4 жыл бұрын
Love the content! This video is great and i love how open you are at picking someone’s brain without putting their opinion down. The only thing i wish was that the audio was better. It was very difficult to follow along. They have really good mics for $20 on amazon.
@jimmypham4904
@jimmypham4904 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love it when Christian brothers and sisters coming together and having a peaceful and meaningful conversations
@Kman.
@Kman. 4 жыл бұрын
This video does not portray two Christians. A Catholic if they believe in what the Catholic church teaches, is not a child of God. This video pretty much put that on display.
@prestonkendrickpearl2769
@prestonkendrickpearl2769 4 жыл бұрын
You've got a new Catholic subscriber! I love dialouging with my evangelical brothers and sisters, and I'm glad I can watch some of your content! To make a quick comment on the Eucharist I would use it in this since: when Christ came to earth, he was man; but also God incarnate at the same time. So what really looked like a mere man was actually the eternal God in the form of a man hiding his divinity (until the transfiguration). I view the Eucharist the same way; it's another way to physically and spiritually experience Christ on earth, even though he is at the Fathers right hand in Heaven.
@ronniehenwood8580
@ronniehenwood8580 Жыл бұрын
But, anyone who is born of the Spirit can experience Christ through the Spirit.
@jawahib5250
@jawahib5250 4 жыл бұрын
48:00 I feel Matt didn't represent the concept "Theotokos" quite correctly, since its primary merit is not in the syllogism that Jesus = God, Mary = Mother of Jesus, therefore Mary = Mother of God. The literal translation which he mentioned, "God-bearer" is a bit more poignant in getting across the reason for its position in Church theology. The objection raised against "Theotokos" was not as an attack of St Mary's position at all, but on the nature of Christ. The question being raised by Nestor of Constantinople was "Did Christ carry His Divine Nature as a foetus in the womb?". Nestor believed not, and insisted that St Mary be called "Christ-bearer", or "Christotokos", which based on the context would mean something like "St. Mary only gave birth to the one who would BECOME God, not God Himself". St Cyril of Alexandria's counter-position, which became church doctrine at the Council of Ephesus as a result, was that from the moment that Christ had any physical presence on Earth, i.e. right after conception, He carried the divine nature (fully human and fully divine). Thus St Mary should rightly be called "Theotokos", as the one who carried the divine nature of God. Anyway, this dialogue was awesome, thanks for sharing it! (Coptic Orthodox here)
@marcotuliomacedobicalhomar8320
@marcotuliomacedobicalhomar8320 4 жыл бұрын
It's because Nestorius taught that in Jesus there was two Persons (a divine and a human one, differents), tought the faith of the Church is that in Christ we have one Person, the Person of the eternal Word, consubstantial to the Father, who really assumed the human nature without leaving the divine one. I don't know if you coptics think differenctly.
@rsnowden
@rsnowden 3 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, I would love to watch a follow up!
@ProximaCentauri88
@ProximaCentauri88 3 жыл бұрын
As Catholics, we must also understand how challenging are a lot of our Catholic beliefs to Protestants even to Protestants who want to become Catholic because of their deep anti-tradition and sola scriptura background so to actually ask a Catholic, a Catholic apologist at that, is highly commendable.
@billmartin3561
@billmartin3561 4 жыл бұрын
The interpretation of early Christian leaders is incredibly important, they were closest to the source. The traditions and interpretations of the Catholic Church are much more valid than modern interpretations which tend to lack historical context and pick and choose verses while ignoring other verses.
@CrankyGrandma
@CrankyGrandma 4 жыл бұрын
What a respectful discussion❤️. “See how these Christians love one another”. P.S. Matt, the church does teach Adam and Eve are historical. How God creates them as the first humans is open to interpretation (that is he could have used literal dust if the earth or he could have used evolution but there were two original parents. It’s in the Catechism (the CCC) for future reference
@crystald3346
@crystald3346 4 жыл бұрын
This was awesome Matt!
@lullabiesofthedusk
@lullabiesofthedusk Жыл бұрын
Cameron and Matt look so young here 😁
@markanthony2873
@markanthony2873 4 жыл бұрын
As a Catholic , I thoughtMatt explained it great....
@wilsoneusebio777
@wilsoneusebio777 3 жыл бұрын
Protestant sects are neither evangelical nor Christian. Only the Catholic church is truly Christian and Evangelical. The others claim to be evangelical, but they are not. Example: The Gospel of John 6, 48-71 says that JESUS ​​truly dwells in consecrated bread and wine, but Protestants deny the real presence and only say that it is a symbol. The Gospel of John never says that it is a symbol. Like John 20, 21-23 and James 5, 16 JESUS ​​gives his church the power to forgive sins, Protestants say no, that they do not confess and that men cannot forgive sins and thus contradict the word of God !! John 2, 1 says that Mary intercedes even when JESUS ​​has no plans to perform a miracle, Protestants contradict the gospel and say no. John 17, 20-26: Be one as the father and I are one, be united, but the Protestants were divided from the church and between them they are divided into more than 66,000 sects. John 19, 26-27 He says that JESUS ​​gave his mother Mary as a mother to his disciple John and equal to the church, is a spiritual mother. Protestants say no. Matthew 16, 18-19 JESUS ​​gave authority over the other apostles to Peter and left him as the main leader of the church, as pope, father or leader. Like Isaiah 22, 20-22, he says that when a king gives the keys to his servant, that happens to be a father to the community, JESUS ​​is king of kings and his community is the church, that's why the Catholic church has a pope. In Matthew 25, 31-46 JESUS ​​criticizes very strongly those who do not do works for others, and Protestants criticize the Catholic church because it teaches that good works must be done. Protestants teach that we are saved only by grace, when in truth it is that we were saved in the past, JESUS ​​gave himself on the cross by grace and saved us, but want us to do good works. Ephesians 2, 8-9. The key is in verse 10 that they don't read and in another book that Luther tried to eliminate because he gives reason to the Catholic church and contradicts that evil heresy. That book is that of James because in Chapter 2, 14-26 it says that faith without works is a dead faith. And ask. Can that faith save him without works? Even stronger is what JESUS ​​will say about the works on the day of judgment. Matthew 25, 31-46. This is only a summary of the gospels, if we were other topics in the apostolic letters, we will also see other contradictions of the Protestants to the gospel of JESUS ​​CHRIST! The cross, moving to another faith, prayer to the dead, purgatory, repeated prayers, the images, they say that Mary had more children, they say that the bible is the truth and the bible itself says that the CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of the Truth 1 Timothy 3, 15. They say it does not matter to be in any church etc ... All contrary to what the word of God teaches! kzfaq.info/love/PQA0iLLJm-NJCYfngzsk4Q
@mesichikitochikitochikito1128
@mesichikitochikitochikito1128 4 жыл бұрын
I'd encourage every Protestant out there to look up the so-cal "Eucharistic Miracles", and also the Virgin of Guadalupe Miracle. They are as compelling as they are amazing.
@fernandoalarcon8534
@fernandoalarcon8534 4 жыл бұрын
The Virgin of Guadalupe was fabricated to proselytize the indigenous people. It has been well documented that Bishop Zumárraga was a prolific writer. Yet, in not a single one of his known letters, is there any mention of Juan Diego, his miraculous apparition, the roses, or the cloak bearing the image, or any other element of the story of Juan Diego.
@maggiecorley3
@maggiecorley3 4 жыл бұрын
i love those miracles! my catholic friend often tells me about them and i feel His Holy Presence every single time!! (i’m currently protestant, but i really want to convert)
@derekmizer6293
@derekmizer6293 4 жыл бұрын
Miracles? Gullible idiots.
@a.sobolewski1646
@a.sobolewski1646 4 жыл бұрын
Derek Mizer Not as gullible as materialists
@derekmizer6293
@derekmizer6293 4 жыл бұрын
@@a.sobolewski1646 what is a materialist?
@janpetsch620
@janpetsch620 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous. The two of you are awesome together.
@annmariebudyn
@annmariebudyn 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed listening to your debate. I'm a 'cradle Catholic' and old enough to remember the Latin mass. Much has changed in terms of how we debate nowadays compared to the I was young. The Catholic church teaches about the mystery of faith and that we steadied accept much without explanation but to accept in faith for example the transubsrantiation. We are blessed to be taught this from the get go. I love my protestant evangelical friends as they have such zeal for the word of God in the Bible. I will follow your channel with interest as I need to learn more as to how best to defend my faith in a kind way. I do listen to some evangelical programmes and am disappointed when people make general statements about Catholicism made from ignorance when it's clear that they have never tried to understand the Faith. Your example of the 'cult belief' slur is a case in point. God bless you both.🌹
@margocatholic
@margocatholic 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! I’m a passionate Catholic and fan of Matt Fradd. I believe that Truth is objective and there is a single form of Christianity that Jesus revealed. Why are we split up into denominations? Either Baptism is necessary or it’s not - can’t have it both ways. May the Holy Spirit lead us all to the fullness of Truth and the outpouring God’s grace and love through the Sacraments 🙏🏼
@CapturingChristianity
@CapturingChristianity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Margo! Matt is awesome.
@Amanda-ze2ut
@Amanda-ze2ut 4 жыл бұрын
We are split into denominations because it is Satan’s goal to cause chaos and destruction and confusion, and get people to believe anything other than the true gospel of the Bible. Baptism is a public demonstration of your faith but is NOT required for salvation.
@st.mephisto8564
@st.mephisto8564 4 жыл бұрын
Genuine question at 6:54, "God makes the prayer known to the saints". What? If God has already come to know what your prayer is, why does he need to relay that back to saints who are in turn gonna pray for you to the same God? Confused here...anyone can clear that up?
@philotheos251
@philotheos251 4 жыл бұрын
Someone in the comments section (am101171) wrote this: "The standard account for how the saints are aware of our prayers is that, because they have the beatific vision of God, they see in God all of the knowledge they need, all of the knowledge that is relevant to them, and so they see our prayers to them. On the standard account is thus by the omniscience of God that they become aware of our prayers, though they themselves are never omniscient and never take in the full scope of God’s knowledge, only those parts that are relevant to them."
@ericgatera7149
@ericgatera7149 4 жыл бұрын
@@philotheos251 Hmm, interesting. A bit like what Pentecostals and Charismatics call the "Word of Knowledge"!? I never thought of it before. Interesting perspective!
@m2sotolopez
@m2sotolopez 4 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, The Saints are Christian Heroes that lived their lives with heroic Christian virtue. They are men, women, teens and children. We can relate to them in many ways, by their example, their sufferings or their accomplishment. One of my favorites is St. Monica who prayed for her son for decades before he became a Christian. I call on her so that she can help me pray for my adult children to come to Christ.
@AveChristusRex
@AveChristusRex 4 жыл бұрын
Never forget that 'how God does something' or 'how something is true' is not the same as that it is true. An example is the Trinity. We know God is triune only because He revealed it. Similarly, we know from the faith once delivered to the saints, that intercession and communion of the saints is part of the faith. We don't need to know, however interesting, reasonable or defendable, how God does it, or how saints are made aware of our petititons. We simply don't. Also, don't forget that even in the Bible the apostles ask others to pray on their behalf. So you have to think about that when mocking the idea of praying to God through someone else, or asking others to intercede for you.
@st.mephisto8564
@st.mephisto8564 4 жыл бұрын
@@AveChristusRex Wasn't mocking it. Got confused at the comment of God making it known to the saints because that didn't make any sense. We don't need to know how, is still a better answer than that.
@littledaughter1
@littledaughter1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we need more of this! I've always said, we believe in the same Christ, and we are all brothers and sisters. We should all be able to talk amicably about our faith. God bless you both!! ♥️
@mmcbsa6271
@mmcbsa6271 3 жыл бұрын
very great discussion- very calm and full of insights
@danielbarzay461
@danielbarzay461 4 жыл бұрын
as it was impromptu chat, would be interesting for Matt to prepare longer video for these questions
@danielbarzay461
@danielbarzay461 4 жыл бұрын
some apologetics regarding Perpetual Virgin kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8pnZ9WUusyUlas.html
@gabriellemclaren5490
@gabriellemclaren5490 4 жыл бұрын
On Cameron's point about "how do saints know of our prayers?" My understanding was that our prayers are made known to them by the angels and specifically our guardian angels
@Steve-qr2lm
@Steve-qr2lm 3 жыл бұрын
Where is your authority for that understanding in scripture though?
@frankpontone2139
@frankpontone2139 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-qr2lm Don't ask that please.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-qr2lm where is sola scriptura in the bible? You sound like someone who has read a math book, makes up a math axiom, and then keeps using the made up axiom.
@MrHectorlutero
@MrHectorlutero 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see this kind of good conversation! Thanks Lord Jesus for our Catholics brothers! We are one in Christ!
@DDCrp
@DDCrp 4 жыл бұрын
Kewl vid. This the sort of discussion demonstrates Christian Love and virtue in a way that I honestly havent seen much of in the US. Its refreshing and both of you have a good grounding in Humility. There's no compulsion to "take sides"
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