Cava vs. Champagne (Save $ Drink Smart!)

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Wine Folly

Wine Folly

5 жыл бұрын

In this tasting, I pop a bottle of Champagne and compare it to Spanish Cava and an Oregon sparkling wine. Full details: winefolly.com/episode/champag...
Oh oh! And since this video was published Cava has changed their aging requirements (starting in vintage 2022) - They now require 18 months of aging for Cava Reserva and they've added a few more quality classifications with shorter aging requirements.
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@martiuscastle
@martiuscastle 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of what goes wrong with wine drinking and wine business around the world is due to the unfortunate result of french classic marketing history. Everybody gets the impression that drinking wine is too much work, and nobody wants to be an ignorant at the table. So i love when videos show people that it's just fun, and it's not all french fancy stuff. I always tell people to stay in step one: Fruity or rough? Tannin or soft? vineyard made, or "factory to grocery store" large products? When people get that, they get enough to know: a) if it may be interesting and b) what they prefer. That's it. My largest comment so far on youtube. I love you and your book! Cheers!
@JackyBlisson
@JackyBlisson 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I am always telling people that the only thing that matters in wine tasting is what they enjoy, and to NEVER let a wine professional tell them that they just haven't "understood the wine". That kind of pretentious attitude is what turns people off wine.
@maximecaffarel5641
@maximecaffarel5641 5 жыл бұрын
Its not about fancy french stuff. It's about understanding why its worth spending $50 over $25, and what you're getting for it. Champagne weather is a lot more finicky than Spain. Attaining perfect ripeness on the varietals, and Pinot is an expensive grape to grow to begin with. On top of that, very few champagne producers actually age their wine for 15 months, most spend 2-4 years in cellars. That's where the price difference kicks in.
@martiuscastle
@martiuscastle 5 жыл бұрын
@@maximecaffarel5641 , although i meant it as a more general comment, i stand corrected.
@louisd.8928
@louisd.8928 4 жыл бұрын
In respect to sparkling wine, it needs to be said that, when at the same price point, cava tends to slaughter prosecco. You can really tell that the former has undergone aging in the bottle whereas the latter has about one measly month of aging in open steel vats. Even up here in Canada where alcohol is overpriced due to being sold by a government monopoly, you can still manage to get great value in cava. Just this summer, I found this gem of a cava, 2015 vintage, at 22 $. The empyreumatic notes it boasted were properly astounding.
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 4 жыл бұрын
Hear hear. Respect. Canada.
@Wu.Tang.Financial
@Wu.Tang.Financial 3 жыл бұрын
Cava is tragically underrated, had some really lees-ey and wonderful stuff in Barca that I just can’t find here but even regular cava is DEALS here in the states. Cheers from Seattle
@CheeseBae
@CheeseBae 4 жыл бұрын
Methinks the actual tasting began awhile before this video was filmed.
@Sunstepa
@Sunstepa Жыл бұрын
😁 it's not first video by her then I notice that. 😁
@johnospina9842
@johnospina9842 5 жыл бұрын
Great job M! you're making it informative and fun!
@nomdeguerre7265
@nomdeguerre7265 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I rented a car in Barcelona and drove around the surrounding area stopping at every vineyard I could. It was a very enjoyable few days and I tried some very interesting wines. When I returned to the United States I had to ship several cases, as well as paying to take a few with me as extra luggage. Most of them made it back just fine and for the next few months I just drained those cases, which included several Cava. The prices were awesome and the quality was just 'over the roof'. Since then I've definitely had a thing for Cava...and Catalunya. Except for a few incredible things I wasn't a huge Barcelona fan, but I was in love with Catalunya. Champagne will always be Champagne, and I love it dearly, but Cava has always been my 'go to' sparkler. Lately there have been a huge variety of diverse and incredible sparklers, from all over the place. We are truly living in the 'Golden Age' of beverages!
@jacksonfl
@jacksonfl 5 жыл бұрын
Just love following you. Thanks so much for doing this.
@jonnie1653
@jonnie1653 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Keep it up! Love all this wine reviews 👍
@ebrugurlek2231
@ebrugurlek2231 4 жыл бұрын
Nice & fun video! I live in Penedes Wine Region, near to best cava makers, and I love cava! Here you drink it before lunch, after lunch :) There are many eco-wineries (which follows traditional methods) with cava masterclass! What I want to say is that, first: you can drink sparkling wine cheaper, second: so you get use to consume it in any occasion, third: you should come here to live it! I can give even more details for a sparkling experience!
@mathieucortes5739
@mathieucortes5739 5 жыл бұрын
I work in wine in France (Languedoc-Roussillon) I recommend Champagne Ruinart or Louis Roederer. In the Languedoc-Roussillon we also make sparkling wines! Crémant de Limoux Kisses from France
@thelegendofthem6120
@thelegendofthem6120 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had an affordable store wine that reminds you alot of actual Champagne?
@totochanel2251
@totochanel2251 3 жыл бұрын
I like Ruinart, but my favourite is Bollinger☺☺😋
@commonwealpanther
@commonwealpanther 3 жыл бұрын
@@thelegendofthem6120 the Cremant de Limoux is a great option for a non Champagne sparkling wine that is more affordable
@commonwealpanther
@commonwealpanther 3 жыл бұрын
Love Crémant de Limoux!
@thelegendofthem6120
@thelegendofthem6120 3 жыл бұрын
@@commonwealpanther thank you so much!🥂
@thelegendofthem6120
@thelegendofthem6120 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I just recently subscribed! I was wondering if you would compare anything to Dom Perignon (Champange) taste to a more economic wine? I've read plenty of articles, but since you're an expert, I defer to your thoughts and experience. I love Cava from Spain btw. I love dry sparkling wines better, but I enjoy Prosecco as well. Anyway, great channel!
@drmatthewhorkey
@drmatthewhorkey 5 жыл бұрын
Nice tasting, the Oregon sparkler looks interesting. Don't sleep on Limoux AOC or Trento DOC as well.
@understandingwines9181
@understandingwines9181 4 жыл бұрын
She's such a character, I love her videos!
@AndresFnt
@AndresFnt Жыл бұрын
I bought campo viejo brut. Its my 1st brut and 1st Spanish white wine. Do you think I’d like it? I heard after getting it that its “dry” and im worried now that i wont enjoy it since im more a fan of moscato and S. Blanc
@inkagogo
@inkagogo 3 жыл бұрын
Madeline, thanks for the video! I love learning about wine in a fun way, your way. BTW, the (dark red/burgundy?) color of your top suits you very nice, good choice!
@anifish84
@anifish84 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things about champagne is that cheesy flavor that I haven’t really found anywhere else. I was on a budget for NYE this year and got the Argyle instead of my favorite Louis Roderer reserve, and although it was good, it was missing something for me that I hadn’t been able to put my finger on it until I saw this video. Love it!
@SteveAbrahall
@SteveAbrahall 5 жыл бұрын
Hay just thought I'd say thanks for all your amazing work! A new wine Folly vid always lightens up my day. Just a thought, may be at some point you could do a comparison with some Tasmanian sparkling?
@byz2482
@byz2482 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there would you mind doing a video on champagne glasses like you did for reds? Including a reidel performance champagne would be fantastic!
@Natashaz48
@Natashaz48 5 жыл бұрын
I love bubbles! Thanks Mads for making this vid. 🥂🍾
@SlowTransitTimes
@SlowTransitTimes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for great info! I would def. try #2 or #3 based on this. Always going to your book for info and learning as i open a new type of wine! Makes it fun to learn 🤓😍🍷📝
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
OMG. But #1 was so good. Even for 46.
@SlowTransitTimes
@SlowTransitTimes 5 жыл бұрын
Wine Folly oh I am sure it’s delicious! Ok I’ll get it for a special occasion 😍💞
@Kberrysal
@Kberrysal 4 жыл бұрын
Can you aged theses wines
@PaulTC777
@PaulTC777 2 жыл бұрын
Catalan Cava is one of the best sparkling drinks, forget Italy and France. Here in Catalonia we have awesome Cavas for 5€ (Brut Nature).
@Sunstepa
@Sunstepa Жыл бұрын
Hi nationalist. 🤡
@texasgina
@texasgina 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@MsJavaWolf
@MsJavaWolf 2 жыл бұрын
What is actually the reason that most champagne uses some percentage of red wine grapes and why is blanc de blanc often more expensive?
@kyliefan7
@kyliefan7 4 ай бұрын
I love CAVA BUT only the cheapest one that I can find!!! It’s called Campo Viejo Brut Rose. I think it’s only like $8 a bottle before discounts! Other more expensive ones I didn’t see what was better! Cava’s have that little bitter note to them. I’m chilling a bottle now!
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 4 ай бұрын
It's actually pretty tasty, it's a great starting spot for Cava - I would encourage you to try a Reserva Cava - from a single vintage to step out of the comfort zone. you can find them for around $16-$25 these days :) Good luck!
@davidabbett7011
@davidabbett7011 5 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your insight and enthusiasm. Has Franciacorte begun to make its presence known in the USA?
@jukebox212003
@jukebox212003 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, but what a treat!
@CdA_Native
@CdA_Native 5 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of her videos I expect her gesticulation is going to knock glasses and bottles in all directions!
@mcnerneymike1
@mcnerneymike1 5 жыл бұрын
how about champagne vs cremant
@mondarinvino107
@mondarinvino107 5 жыл бұрын
Madeline, what are your thoughts on Gruet's lineup of sparklers? Very easy on the wallet, but how's the quality? New Mexico!
@andrewyarosh1809
@andrewyarosh1809 5 жыл бұрын
El Pogiguy Gruet is top notch, so much better and more like real Champagne than the Argyl, which is shouldn’t be in this tasting.
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
Had em before, and have been a fan even after they sold (Gallo? Someone correct me!). will need to get some of their higher tier offerings though. That Champagne I had was pretty top notch. Way better than Nicky Foo
@andrewyarosh1809
@andrewyarosh1809 5 жыл бұрын
Wine Folly Gruet site still claims they are “family owned.” “Partnership” with Precept Wines in Seattle announced in 2014. Precept site lists Gruet and also says they are “family owned.” Whatever that means these days......
@A2dy
@A2dy 3 жыл бұрын
Brought back a bottle of Cava from Spain and opened it Jan 1 2020...the only good thing about 2020 so far lol
@gabrielantunesmusic6785
@gabrielantunesmusic6785 3 ай бұрын
I'm watching this video enjoying a brazilian wine made in the tradicional method (Chardonay and Pinot Noiiiir 😂). Broke my heart seeing you spit the champagne in the mug, if you know the prices in third world haha...
@ribbitrocks
@ribbitrocks 3 жыл бұрын
what do I think? well it's hard to compare cars and pasta as it is champagne to cava.... and btw you mentioned Prosecco but only featured the oragon sparkling wine..... so I don't know / they are very different and fun to taste them side by side for sure... between the level of bubbles, clean dry aspects it's all very hard to say and thusly why when asked what is. my favorite wine, I would say the next one :)
@AIRFORCEFREAK1
@AIRFORCEFREAK1 5 жыл бұрын
Currently on Temporary active duty for 5 months living in a hotel. So getting to good wine is kinda hard. Can't wait to get back to my normal living situation to get back to my wine game.
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
USPATRIOT99 you got this! 🤘
@alejandrohernandez356
@alejandrohernandez356 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video.. Why you didn't compare a Prosseco from it's original place of origin like the other two?
@paulk2560
@paulk2560 5 жыл бұрын
The Prosecco grapes used to make the wine were grown in Oregon, and a traditionale methode was used. The geographical location of the wines production would have no impact on the taste or quality of the wine so why are you asking?
@alekshernandez2
@alekshernandez2 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulk2560 "The geographical location of the wines production would have no impact on the taste or quality of the wine so why are you asking?" Really? You need to go out there (of your usa little world) and try not only wine, but different fruits and vegetables and I hope you will see / taste the differences!
@paulk2560
@paulk2560 4 жыл бұрын
@@alekshernandez2 lol except im not from the usa so you're wrong again.
@shreerajsalunke353
@shreerajsalunke353 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Madeleine, lovely video. I'm a wine enthusiast but I live in India, which has a very limited imported wine selection (local ones are very good, mind you) which costs a fortune (a 10$ wine will sell at 25$ here because gOvErNmEnT, which also happens to be a substantial chunk of my wage to spend on a bottle). Now my question is, is there any way you could suggest me to get as much exposure to wine as possible being as frugal as possible?
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
Shreeraj Salunke You guys are in the nascent stage of a massively growing wine industry and buying market. I wonder how much Australia is bringing in? There is some good juice from there. This is a really tricky question to answer. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of what you see isn’t that great.
@shreerajsalunke353
@shreerajsalunke353 5 жыл бұрын
@@Winefolly your suspicion is correct. Yellow tail and Jacob's creek retails for around 15$
@aleixvallejo7976
@aleixvallejo7976 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Instructive and entertaining. The camera loves you, you know. I'm from Barcelona, where cava is indeed a big thing. Last summer I visited the Alta Alella winery, where they make the cava you're showing here. It's a hilly terrain, but very close to the sea. I don't remember trying the cava, though it's likely we did. I do remember their Pansa Blanca (A.K.A. xarel·lo - pronounced "shar-AIR-loo") white wines the region is most famous for and some Monastrell reds. Alella is, I think, the only region in Catalonia where Monastrell grapes are still called Mataró. Keep up the good work!
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
I've been stumbling over that pronunciation for YEARS. TY. Go go Barcelona. Thanks for sharing!
@jwinestory5051
@jwinestory5051 4 жыл бұрын
Oregon is a gem of wine industry in US, so elegant and amazing wines they make.
@RAD6150
@RAD6150 3 жыл бұрын
Cremant... ever since we got a few bottles in Loire, my wife is always hunting for it.
@bluecollarwineguy4447
@bluecollarwineguy4447 5 жыл бұрын
Sparkling wine is so confusing to me. Thanks for the video. Wife and I found Treveri Cellars out of Yakima produces several unique sparkling wines. My favorite from them was a sparkling reisling and the worst was a sparkling syrah.....and I'm a syrah guy... I'm going to search for that cava though and give it a try. Thanks for the video..... BTW, your first book is ALWAYS my first reference book I reach for when I want to know something about wine. Thank you for that as well.
@JackyBlisson
@JackyBlisson 5 жыл бұрын
There are all kinds of great, reasonably priced sparkling wines being made around the world now. France makes some lovely Crémant wines from Burgundy and a host of other regions that can drink like Champagne for a fraction of the cost. California also makes some lovely bubblies in the cooler regions like Anderson Valley & Carneros.
@kboy181
@kboy181 3 жыл бұрын
Omg 😱 I never noticed the rating on cava. This changed everything.
@solomonmengeu1003
@solomonmengeu1003 Жыл бұрын
I've kind of stopped drinking Prosecco and other Charmat method sparkling wine, as I feel for just a few dollars/euros more you can get a nice Cremant (Reserve) or Cava (Reserva). I also really enjoy MCC from South Africa and Trentino DOC espumante, but those are rare in Asia. Glad to hear that Madeline is from Oregon, I have a lot of respect for Oregon winemakers. They seem to be much more terroir respectful and trying to make wines that reflect their soils and environments. Ditto for Washington and the Finger Lakes. I think American wines get a bad reputation due to a fair few California wine makers making overly alcoholic, over extracted and oaky wines. There seems to be a movement in Cali away from that, but it's gaining pace rather slowly, it seems
@Danzooy
@Danzooy 9 ай бұрын
I should be the last person to correct the author of wine folly…but a folly none the less. Cava Reserva requires 18 months on the lees, not 15 months 😅. Don’t hurt me. I only know cause I just pulled it from my wine Bible. I’m deep diving Cava right now cause I love it.
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it looks like some changes have occurred in both Champagne and Cava since this video was published :) - we’ll have to correct the website too! Thanks!
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 9 ай бұрын
The rules changed in 2022 - with some additional aging classifications as well. :)
@michaelireland7239
@michaelireland7239 2 ай бұрын
we learn by gettihg sloshed , i love this channel , love wine folly ,, bizarrly there ie a wine in australia called wine folly ,how bizarre
@estuchedepeluche2212
@estuchedepeluche2212 3 жыл бұрын
“I am not a drrewenck, I just play one on KZfaq”
@Rmn-6324
@Rmn-6324 4 жыл бұрын
The best cava are from Almendralejo, Extremadura or Castilla -Leon
@lukeaxelson3947
@lukeaxelson3947 5 жыл бұрын
Please do right a right bank and a left bank Bordeaux! Preferably a st emilion.
@moonlightguitars
@moonlightguitars 5 жыл бұрын
I like Andre Cold Duck.
@iga279
@iga279 5 жыл бұрын
You spat out champagne, but swallowed Cava!
@gregvondare
@gregvondare 5 жыл бұрын
No, didn't know that Oregon was your home state. The red, white and sparkling wines of the "Beaver State" have been a continual source of delight for me over the last year. And I'm finding that, for the most part, NV French Champagnes have a sour component to them, especially in the finish, that I find unpleasant. Maybe if I could afford $200 a bottle, it would be different. Cheers.
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
BEAVER BELIEVER. They actually used to have t-shirts that said that! hahahaha. Meanwhile, yes, you'll find one. I'm not sure how much you'll spend. Have you had Deutz? wow was that Gaston C. tasty stuff.
@gregvondare
@gregvondare 5 жыл бұрын
One of my best pals is from Beaverton and we got a lot comedy of mileage out of that. Thanks for the tip. I'll give Deutz a try. I'm looking for a present for a lady friend who loves the bubbles. (as the poet Ogden Nash once wrote: Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.) All Best.
@macgyverdallas9444
@macgyverdallas9444 5 жыл бұрын
Hey girl how are you!
@glenda7921
@glenda7921 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’m listening to my drunk book club friends. I love what you’re saying, and what I’m learning, just wish I didn’t question your creds because of your on camera antics.
@uberminseok23
@uberminseok23 5 жыл бұрын
Heard sparkling wine was made by British before French. As someone whose neither, what the Brits say sounds legit. What are your thoughts?
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
uberminseok23 I have 2 bottles waiting!!!!!
@michaelireland7239
@michaelireland7239 2 ай бұрын
THIS IS ONE WOMAN I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE A BOTTLE OF KRUG CLOS DE MESNIL , NUF SAID , THOSE THAT KNOW ,KNOW ,
@joeluvs2danceify
@joeluvs2danceify 4 жыл бұрын
$22! Sounds like in the US you get a massive import tax. In UK we can get palatable cavas for less than equivalent £10 or about $13.
@Sunstepa
@Sunstepa Жыл бұрын
It's still expensive. I can buy for 6€. 😁
@timothyedwards5810
@timothyedwards5810 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
TY! :)
@michaelireland7239
@michaelireland7239 2 ай бұрын
bugger proseco ,, my choice is cava or champagne
@AndresFnt
@AndresFnt Жыл бұрын
I dont use the vernacular that you do not because i cant but because i dont want to. What you say smells like cheese or formage i say smells like feet.
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 9 ай бұрын
hahahaha. great
@hectorcardenas5485
@hectorcardenas5485 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU.....
@trailbadger2345
@trailbadger2345 5 жыл бұрын
Anything sparkling is a girls best friend!
@markmarkin9126
@markmarkin9126 3 жыл бұрын
I guess this pretty lady started shooting this video after she had tested a couple of those bottles behind the scenes))
@andrewyarosh1809
@andrewyarosh1809 5 жыл бұрын
Putting Argyl up against the Gaston Chiquet is like comparing a Big Mac to a meal at a bouchon Lyonnaise.
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Yarosh 😂 so funny. So so funny. That GC was really fantastic
@megaj3100
@megaj3100 5 жыл бұрын
Big Macs are fucking awesome.
@f.pompeuroda3908
@f.pompeuroda3908 3 жыл бұрын
U drunnnnkkkk ??
@Winefolly
@Winefolly 3 жыл бұрын
I'm drunk even when I'm sober (which I was during this particular segment). Life is very intoxicating.
@Ts-rj4rl
@Ts-rj4rl 4 жыл бұрын
I'd only drink real champagne with u not wine darling no wine......I'm stuck in a computerised town at the moment so recomputerise
@charlesstanfield4257
@charlesstanfield4257 5 жыл бұрын
Beware! WINE CLOWNS!!!
@Sunstepa
@Sunstepa Жыл бұрын
What? 🤡
@fahimfaysal1925
@fahimfaysal1925 4 күн бұрын
Is it just me? Or does she sound kinda drunk?
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