CAVITY BACK IRONS OR BLADES MYTHS

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CAVITY BACK IRONS OR BLADES MYTHS

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CAVITY BACK IRONS OR BLADES MYTHS, there has been a complaint about a review on the channel earlier this week. Mark Crossfield takes this complaint up with one of the people its about. See what clubs can and cant do for your golf game and if cavity back and blades really do make all the difference to scoring and ball control. If you are a beginner golfer thinking of buying a new set of golf clubs or been playing for years watch and let us know what you think of the video. Cavity back irons or blades have been talked about for years, what are the real differences and which one can help you play some better golf.
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@MarkCrossfield 4 жыл бұрын

Did this video surprise you and have you done a similar test when trying golf clubs? Let me know below and share this video with mates whoa re thinking of buying new irons.

@quentindohnt 4 жыл бұрын

I think lofts are irrelevant depending on the tech of a product, but nearly all the blokes i play with want to whinge about it somehow. Human Nature i suppose.I am catching up on your older vlogs gradually, and i must compliment you on the content. King regards Quent

@factsunbiased5157 4 жыл бұрын

How can you legitimately say they are the same when one is a 6 and one is a 7. I understand you matched the lofts, but the true comparison is 6 to 6 or 7 to 7. I enjoy this video and your content, but in this case you are off on the comparison.

@MarkCrossfield 4 жыл бұрын

Blake Deyhle d-plane rules all I guess.

@factsunbiased5157 4 жыл бұрын

Mark Crossfield keep up the good content! If we all agree all the time then we aren’t growing. Great thing about golf content and equipment is the variety. We can all find what we like. Thanks again.

@warbutters 4 жыл бұрын

At what distance in the flight is the apex reached?

@Dillinger251 5 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that you challenge people’s preconceptions and cliches. I’ve learned so many things from you over the last 10 years that have completely changed the way I think about golf and the way I play and nearly EVERY one of these things has challenged a golfing cliche I have heard at my local club. It’s fascinating how people get drawn in by marketing and hearsay. Keep challenging the cliches, it’s what makes you different from other KZfaq golf channels 👀

@donrickdon 5 жыл бұрын

I used to be the biggest club Ho in the world, would literally be on eBay monthly swapping my irons. Have a good round buy some blades, have a crap round, swap for chunkies. Literally had hundreds of irons. Your channel has really helped my bank balance mark. It literally doesn’t matter. Although I fancy giving one length a go ;)

@publicnmy147 5 жыл бұрын

@markcrossfield never stop doing these videos, it's the main reason why i've stopped watching other golf channels. _Especially_ for reviews. So much bs in the industry trying to sell us new gear when it's obvious that everyone would benefit the most from lessons combined with (focused) practice in areas they need to improve rather than what they are already quite good at.

@robmcd 2 жыл бұрын

I’m brand new to this: I’ve swung some clubs before but years ago. Looking at drivers- there are so many telling me to not get the stealth because it’s a tough driver compared to the Rogue… but wouldn’t lessons make whatever driver i own during the lessons the best driver for me?

@terrymiller1122 5 жыл бұрын

Mark, great as always. At nearly 60 years of age I’ve gone back to blades. Can’t stand wide soles and springy faces. I notice no difference in height and my misses tend to be less offline. As always a decent swing produces decent results and a bad swing produces bad results, no mater the equipment.

@brandoncjgrimes 5 жыл бұрын

This is Daddy coming back home from vacation after he left the kids to look after the house. Only to find the kids did something wrong. Now daddy has to tell the kids what they did wrong lol 😂 all jokes but love this

@Struieboy 5 жыл бұрын

Brandon. A good Dad doesn’t try to humiliate the kids.

@eddiereyes4861 5 жыл бұрын

@@Struieboy I dont think hes humiliating them... if anything he is saying - there are misconceptions not based on facts "numbers" ans do to marketing your lead to believe other wise; buyer beware.

@Struieboy 5 жыл бұрын

Chatter Box. I think you’re probably right. I got a bit over emotional there for a moment. Im currently going through the male menopause and my hormones are all over the place.

@mattparsons946 5 жыл бұрын

1:14 lol, did Dan say “At least we didn’t get ‘stuck in’”?

@ZeppelinRules92 5 жыл бұрын

“Do your clichés, but then confirm it with some data.” Love that, Mark! I actually thought the complaint was going to be about Daniel-San saying he “normally comes out on top of these challenges.” 😂 🙈

@steelerfan76 5 жыл бұрын

I have watched your reviews for years and the raw data that you have shown has helped me make purchases not on brand,but on performance related to my game. Keep the raw data coming, bruh!

@williammartella7616 5 жыл бұрын

Mark, spot on. I went through a fitting at club champion, was told this new iron was better for me because more distance, lower spin, more forgiving, etc. Once we compared the trackman data, I noticed a few key things- new club almost exactly matched my current 5 iron numbers. Quick loft check proved the "new" 6 iron matched my old blade 5 iron loft. Yes, different shaft gave me slight difference, but I also think I was "mis-fit" for a shaft I couldn't load (based on my swing speed, when really I can go much softer and get better swing control). My old set up was fit using old true temper strain gauge system to map loading. Whole thing makes it tough to trust bigger companies sometimes

@richardmains5366 5 жыл бұрын

This should be seen by every golfer and golf fitter in the country/world. Impeccable knowledge and use of equipment, i take my hat off to you sir.

@perstrom2130 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I have been saying this for a long time to far more skilled players then me but no one has been listening, well now they probably will. Awesome again Mark, numbers are numbers and fact is fact 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@richief1957 5 жыл бұрын

Mark is the best reviewer on KZfaq, FACT. Keep up the good work bruh

@Mrbeast0099 5 жыл бұрын

Richie F no he’s not you just used a cliche

@mkang 5 жыл бұрын

I wish more reviews would approach the same way as you do Mark. Instead of pandering to their suppliers. Keep it up!

@SilverfoxThe 5 жыл бұрын

Yes - totally agree. I play CBs myself, and it's tiring hearing that such and such a game improvement iron goes higher and longer. Compared to my CBs the lofts are often stronger by at least a club. It's no wonder no-one uses more than a 4-iron in such game improvement sets - that's like my 3-iron!

@chriskirby70 5 жыл бұрын

This can be applied to reviews on the tube of so many different products, and not just with golf products. Well done.

@SkyboxerGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Bottom line.. This video is a prime example of why I subscribe and love the content Mark and the gang do. Love it!

@geoffparry4203 5 жыл бұрын

Your a voice in the wilderness Mark. Golfers will hear but few listen.

@davo3138 5 жыл бұрын

Spot on Mark! There is nobody on KZfaq comes close to your vids mate. A sugar hit is sickly, last a short time and the come down is shortly after......

@Itsthejourneynotthedestination 5 жыл бұрын

You have your critics fella but no one else in golf YT world has such fascinating content like you, superb watching.

@thierrypilette6841 4 жыл бұрын

Eye opening video. @Mark: I've always followed your presentations since the beginning precisely because you back your ideas up with solid data. Please don't change 😎

@darrylrichardson7940 5 жыл бұрын

Marks been saying get up Dan for months. when Dan says its going higher Mark gives him a bollocking you just cant win Dan

@yadthink 5 жыл бұрын

Of course, it's not just Dan, because Mark enjoys embarrassing others. It's the reason I (and probably 1000s of others) haven't subscribed, even though I appreciate his swing tips and how hard he works on his brand.

@MrNickrat 5 жыл бұрын

@@yadthink I think the channel needs a disclaimer stating its not for snowflakes.

@rockrugbyref 5 жыл бұрын

Dan's driver is one thing. The irons are another.

@bobwhelan5644 4 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed that, Dan given a lesson (and absent Matt too).

@kingofrs125 5 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised u don’t have more subscribers mark definitely the best reviewer on youtube and always will be. Unlike some reviewers on KZfaq that click bait 24/7 and say the same thing all the time just to get views but ur right on this video and always right mr guru keep up the gd work sir

@tylerlove2052 5 жыл бұрын

This type of video is exactly why I watch Mark! Always challenging people to think. So hard to avoid bringing preconceptions into a club test. Doubt Coach will do another review now for quite a while!

@MrJeanrichardquant 5 жыл бұрын

I love this! I tell people all the time that any new "technology" that companies claim to have invented to give you more distance is just going down with the lofts and in commercials always use buzzwords like "Higher" "More spin" "Faster". What also probably happens when a normal person goes in for a fitting is that they do strike these new clubs better, you subconsciously think that these new clubs will help you hit better shots so your swing gets better for you to hit these shots. I currently have 10 year old irons in my bag and if I could just get the same heads and put my old shafts in them I'll be happy. Doing that will probably satisfy any "shiny new club" syndrome I may have.

@davidwharton6333 5 жыл бұрын

On a feeling miserable day this review really made me smile. I feel a learn something every time I watch one of your equipment reviews. thanks!

@rcp2bTube 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant Mark. What a nice way to skewer the other KZfaqrs who deliver to audiences' erroneous assumptions.

@php4u 3 жыл бұрын

Well said, Mark. Sorry I am just watching this (over 1 year later), but I agree with your assertion about challenging pre-conceived perceptions. I appreciate your perspective to challenge misconceptions. Keep up the terrific work/analysis.

@texmex697 5 жыл бұрын

Still glad to see Crossa talking real honest sense after all these years. Perceived launch angles, distance and numbers on the bottoms of clubs do not change physics. I have a complaint, Crossa playing Titleist!!! Surely not... once Mizzy always Mizzy.

@chrishose9977 5 жыл бұрын

Best thing I've seen anyone do ever on you tube, brilliant mate.

@bjalloway1988 5 жыл бұрын

Ask and you shall receive!!! More Coach and Dan. Good mix of hilarity and knowledge between all you guys.

@freddy8345 5 жыл бұрын

One of the reasons why people get angry when you shoot down the "guff" in new club reviews is because they just purchased based on the guff and may have been too lazy or cheap to spend the money for a proper fitting that would have showed them that the guff didn't actually produce results.

@anothergolflesson 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for always bringing up the facts Mark. The cliches you can get from anywhere. I'll watch your videos anytime over mainstream golf media.

@robertbascomb2477 5 жыл бұрын

So glad you pointed this out! It’s a great “gut check” for those of us who review, fit, and teach to remember if we are going to fall into the cliches of golf we better have the data to back it up or we are going to end up with egg on our face one day. Just like poor Coach and Dan 😂. I loved the review though. You just had to know Mark was going to “get you” on something.

@martinhadleigh5890 5 жыл бұрын

I love all the technology that is available to assess what the club is doing/achieving as it contacts the ball. It also helps that you know what you are talking about and can back it up 👊.

@nigelday001 5 жыл бұрын

I have a complaint....... In defence of Dan and Coach , they both perceived the G410 t have a higher ball flight , in truth as proved by your test Mark ...they were correct , in fact an astonishing 3% higher flight , notwithstanding the same ball speed and launch angle and spin .. great job Dam and Coach 😂🏌️⛳️🍻

@leighd5017 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha. Coach "laser eyes". @@michaelquinn8

@royemansburms7082 5 жыл бұрын

One of the best video’s ever !! With powerbats I miss left/right short and wide. With mij M18SC I miss Left/right.

@MarkJohnson-bs4hp 5 жыл бұрын

This is what custom fitting is supposed to eliminate. Preconceptions in all fields cloud judgements. That's why drug companies give placebo drugs to part of their test personnel. Science requires fact before a theory is proven so we should follow similar ideas in golf. Spot on Mark. Keep it going.

@jeremyansell6797 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant Mark, brilliant! I haven’t quite followed your channel for ten years (I think it’s ten years you’ve been doing it...not sure you mentioned it 😉) it’s just the six for me! 😇 😇 But the rubbish content that is out there, is filling the minds of so many golfers it’s making it painful having conversations on course and in the clubhouse about the game I love. It’s not quite a revolution, but keep it up brah - we need a ‘truth leader’ as much as we need a leader of the army. #truthleader #bannedcontent #leader #lockeyarmy

@eddiex72 5 жыл бұрын

Good stuff here. All in good fun. I do enjoy Dan’s solo videos as well. Glad you suggested they keep rolling. Dan’s video on driver launching is one I saved. He didn’t say: “Let’s get stuck in...” on that one either. 😂

@cheezburger6130 5 жыл бұрын

That was just a test to see if Mark was paying attention. Good job Dan and Matt and Mark.

@seanmullins5982 5 жыл бұрын

I love this stuff. I bet you were drooling when u first watched the review weren’t you Mark.... but in all honesty I have been saying the same thing for years now thanks to all your studies. So glad I found you years ago as you have provided me with a free education on this stuff. Only wish I had the game to back it lol 😂. Cheers Mr Cross 🍻👏🏌️

@mcfly2727 5 жыл бұрын

Dan:...."..at least we didn't get stuck in..." Proper LOLS! #RoflosaurusRex

@BrianHallmanac 5 жыл бұрын

And it sailed right on by Mark. He didn't miss a beat of what he was saying at the time. Love it! 😂

@PkGam 5 жыл бұрын

I guess since this was addressed, complaints on this from here on out can just go straight to the paper shredder! ;D Gotta' admit this myself, I actually thought the same about Blades for the longest time. But I tried them more scientifically and the differences from Cavity Backs were negligible. That's actually a pretty cool thing to know because it means that anyone can play blades if they want to. 7:07 - Ben Hogan still makes clubs with lofts on the bottom rather than regular numbers. So manufacturers that do so still exist. Pretty' far and few though. I too like that idea better than the P through 4 system because it actually is accurate to what you'd expect and it even matches most Wedges since they tend to stamp the loft on the bottom.

@dustintitterington1856 5 жыл бұрын

You just got another subscriber for that bit of honesty! Always enjoy your content👍🏻

@davidfinn9828 3 жыл бұрын

Mark love all your reviews and on cource testing , i was thinking about this review when i went to test the ping i210 irons and ordered them in power lofts as i feel i will get more distance with a shorter shaft and as long as i know my yardages golf should be a little easier to play 😜

@quentindohnt 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely we talk ourselves into thinking errors.

@JuanRodriguez-wk7mm 5 жыл бұрын

This is one of the reasons i like Mark and watch his videos.

@jamesharrison5004 5 жыл бұрын

100 lines each "I must not use cliches in club reviews without backing it up with data".

@matthewcroad7218 5 жыл бұрын

Bloody Brilliant Mark.Great work.Got a bit confusing half way through then at the end the penny dropped.Flippin quality Bruh

@gabardjean-paul3779 5 жыл бұрын

Allais about Launch angles, speed and total weight of the club. If there are all equals then you get the same results and you demonstrated it !

@rickroche583 4 жыл бұрын

Another Really really good piece of work, ironically I am preparing to replace my irons and I am trying to separate the fact from the fiction. So these insights and the reviews help. I feel I have a little more confidence trying clubs and having at least a small degree of knowledge....THANK YOU

@mattmilford8761 5 жыл бұрын

When I was a student a of yours you caught me out on this. We were working on altering flight and you’d call is the higher or lower, then showed I was wrong and the preception was well off

@chubbspetersonshand6496 5 жыл бұрын

Why do we buy into the cliche's so much? Is it because we WANT to believe the new tech IS really helping? As someone who who sells clubs and fits people (often friends of mine) I find myself having to dial them back a bit when trying new things! They will say; Oh thats way longer than my old one and i'll say lets look at the numbers and they often are very similar! I try to get focus more on what that new club feels like and do they just WANT a new one or are they trying to improve on something. Very interesting watching their responses!

@dalesmith1982 5 жыл бұрын

one of the best bollockings, I have seen in a while. Dan has his tail between his legs now. coach will not care!! great vid mark, keep them up

@after2am150 5 жыл бұрын

I love the data and the on course. People's egos get in the way to much in golf. I just want to learn so i can make the right choices whether buying or playing.

@jaredfernandez1990 5 жыл бұрын

My favorite part about videos like this is the audience plays right into what Mark said. The video already has 18 down votes (as of my watching). How do you argue with numbers? The launch monitor isn't biased on what club is being hit, it's just reading data off of the ball & club face

@duanemari11 5 жыл бұрын

Spot on Mark! I believe any average ball striker without a MAJOR swing fault can game any set of modern Irons they chooses. Especially if playing a shaft, loft and lie that they are familiar with.

@Nunfa0 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant Mark, I really enjoyed the video by the boys but didn't notice the height comments. You keep fighting the cliches and I will keep watching

@gregwalker4236 5 жыл бұрын

both you guys are so good you could hit a dr pepper bottle like lee trevino. i'd like to see everybody try these two clubs on a course with good turf and not the hardpan or grassless turf i've seen in the last few years. yes, i am advocating for two sets of irons--one forged and one set of scrapers for the parking lot golf. love your videos--it's almost like getting out there and carrying on like a one eyed dog in a butcher shop!

@SHodge2 5 жыл бұрын

Peak height remains similar on similar lofts, however, I would really like to see a video on how each one performs on low trajectory shots and high trajectory shots. I have done quite a bit of testing on GI clubs vs blades or players irons and have seen that the game improvement clubs tend to be a one trick pony in that they launch high, making it a little harder for the player to hit lower shots without overworking. That would make for a good video as well.

@samuelnation5300 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing if true, but when I demo’d TM M3 and M4 they certainly appear to fly considerably higher to the point I considered it a possible detriment in wind. Maybe it was launch angle but it sure didn’t look that way to me. No preconceptions either...I had no idea what they would do.

@simland 5 жыл бұрын

Since the end result is rather similar, is there a benefit to having a lower launch angle? What's the descent angle or roll out of the various clubs? Does this hold true through each club in the set with comparable lofts? Does this mean that one set gives you longer reach, but require you supplement with more wedges? Lovely bit of info here, just raises more questions that I'd like to investigate.

@grahamtomlin3272 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, but a question, why not just buy the clubs that suit your eye and cost far less than the premium brands and forget all the hype?

@brandonhuddleston7310 4 жыл бұрын

This video is a perfect example, of why MC is one of the best. 👍🏼

@jksaarinen 5 жыл бұрын

Very good content Mark! It would be great to see more videos on challenging golf myths.

@maamold 5 жыл бұрын

It's a constant battle between blades and cavity backs. At the moment my old MP-32's with S300 shafts are behaving better than my p770 with KBS Tour Stiff shafts. I feel like I'm hitting the 32's better and just as far. The lie, length, weight, swingweight and shaft are just fitting me better so I swing better with them. I doubt that the clubhead is leaps and bounds better or worse because one is a blade and one is a cavity.

@darrenmorris2140 5 жыл бұрын

Some nice thoughts guys I have been fitting clubs for over 24 years as either American golf and pro shops and worked with gc2,flightscope and trackman so had a decent amount of tech to back up and dispell myths but you still almost end up in a argument with people's misconceptions or golf cliches their mate has told them , the best one is offset irons make me hook the ball can you rustle up a video based around cavity irons with lots and blade ish irons with none ,be interesting to hear your thoughts and Dan owes me a favour so I can come and watch lol

@rodgalilee7946 5 жыл бұрын

the Dan & Matt review was excellent, we want more please. Still like the Mark & Dan reviews. All great fun & informative. Thanks

@OldHarryRocks 5 жыл бұрын

Bloody Matt & Dan buggering it up. They only had one job!!

@michaelbrewer7389 5 жыл бұрын

Keep telling us the truth Mark - learned more in the last 3 years than I did in the previous 25!

@grahamlynch9727 5 жыл бұрын

Agree with getting Matt and Dan on more reviews! Really enjoyed them!

@seanadachi9795 5 жыл бұрын

I have burners 09 and tested against cb710. Did the the same test. And got the exact same results

@timzinanni9796 5 жыл бұрын

I understand and appreciate Marks point, he’s spot on! However, Dan was correct the Ping was launching and flying higher.

@p1miguel999 5 жыл бұрын

Love it Mark. having played all types , blades, cavity, chunky, it doesn't really matter. I go out, I shoot low 80's with all of them. lol Putting is where i need to work. 27 putts a round is killing me.

@bjarkebk3735 5 жыл бұрын

many times it comes down to what you wanna look at .. clubs today are not that dif.... i just gone for the srixon 785 .. tryes the callaway apex . and it looked to chunky for me . but almost same numbers .. looks is where you chose today

@jsnyder0512 5 жыл бұрын

I still want the G30s, the Gs, and the G400s. Now there are G410s, damn. I’m just going to stay “ Stuck In “ with my G25s. Great video!

@shaneh2289 5 жыл бұрын

This was my favorite video from you, I love the honesty 👍🏼👍🏼

@jeffreybessent3591 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Keep challenging em! Every golfer should watch this video!

@donstage933 5 жыл бұрын

You hit on a pet peeve of mine as well. Preconceived notions get people to hit a club that way. We took a Srixon and told people it was a cheap knock off since they didn't know the name and they hit it very poorly and said they could tell it was made cheap.

@wolfsjetta12 5 жыл бұрын

I know it has me thinking, hope it gets other to think as well.

@peteh.7273 5 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a video comparing a 3iron TMB vs a 21degree 818 h2 hybrid vs TS2 7wood. All similar lofts. I'm considering all three of those options. I really like the idea of a 7wood, bc my preconceptions tell me that I can get the highest flight and softest landing from 220 yrds. I have a higher swing speed than most people who chose 7 wood. Also not a popular choice for people swinging stiff shafts. I swing driver around 109 mph.

@robingladstone5869 5 жыл бұрын

I moved from ping G irons last year to mizuno MP15 and my ball striking has improved with the “better player” irons. Would be good if club makers put the lofts on them.

@mcjose5907 5 жыл бұрын

Ok, a 7 and a 6 iron with the same loft, approximately, if not exactly. But what's the length of each shaft. Not necessarily in this specific test, but generally. What impact does a quarter inch shaft length have on a club where the loft is identical. Good vid, but the shaft length has rarely been mentioned in comparisons of 7s and 6 irons etc with the same lofts?

@sderden 5 жыл бұрын

1/2 inch and you're going to dismiss the facts? Get out!

@seanphillips4623 5 жыл бұрын

Play a lot of golf (+3 golfer) I know Mr Crossfield sometimes divides opinion but he is very very rarely wrong. I think these types of videos are much more thought provoking than driver v driver videos etc. Keep challenging and questioning 👍

@adamboyle3331 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. A picture would explain it really well because it’s all perception. Imagine see two ball flights that go the same height. One looks like someone throwing a baseball the other starts low then spins up a bit. Your perception will see the baseball type shot being higher since it’s closer to you.

@yadthink 5 жыл бұрын

Question: Assuming GC Quad determines peak height by calculation, how accurate is the peak height number? And if you measured shots with both GC Quad and Trackman, would you get the same peak height number consistently?

@jeffjones5257 5 жыл бұрын

The only thing that could have made this better would have been to have Coach come walking in and try to defend himself. Great job by all of you.

@d.a.stacey4808 5 жыл бұрын

Nailed it...we all look at youtube reviews by yourself, Rick Andy and Piers, Mick Newton etc etc and think we know these clubs before we have even picked them up.Guilty! Ordered a set of PIng g410s on thursday .Walking into my fitting I knew what I wanted and what I did not want.Lucky for me the data I got coincided with the club that suited my eye. Phew...

@johnsimpson6676 5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff again Mark! It reminds of the Piano teacher sketch by peter cook and Dudley Moore. when Dudley said to the piano teacher that he heard that the black notes play louder than the white ones...people can believe anything - especially A supposed expert!

@communicationiskey- Жыл бұрын

Excellent! Even after so many years

@stevoislookingforgolfballs8046 5 жыл бұрын

You know you have done a good job with your channel when you can leave it in the hands of others, and the only person complaining about the job they did is you.

@shaggy4344 5 жыл бұрын

Oh dear both of them in the naughty corner 😂😂Great video definitely remember seeing you do one with a similar message

@SimDeck 2 жыл бұрын

This video made me subscribe. My job is testing and providing reports on data. This I can get on board with.

@tristangregory3536 5 жыл бұрын

Aww...poor D&L (I liked them as team BTW). Hogan FT Worth 15 irons are stamped with lofts. I have started using them and it has taken away my "macho" need to want to hit the same "number" iron as my playing partners, even though I use a blade and they use power bats....just hit the right club...keep up the good work guys TG

@clivetaylor6501 3 жыл бұрын

I've been thinking this. A modern 7 iron, with less loft, is simply a 6 iron in old money. I play irons with old-style lofts, i.e. 35° 7 iron etc. If I want 30° I use my 6 iron. A lot of clubs have just been renumbered to sell them as distance clubs. However, the ball speed off some of the modern hollow-design clubs is another matter I guess?

@stripmallkarate3330 5 жыл бұрын

Okay Mark, that’s great, but test the shot area/forgiveness with an amateur with 10 or 20 balls with these two clubs. Let’s find out if this game improvement concept bears out.

@paulhudson2293 5 жыл бұрын

Quick question on this one then, cavity backs help launch the ball higher, but they don't peak higher than a well struck blade? If that swing speed were a bit slower though, the peak height would be different, and the cavity back would go higher? Is there a swing speed at which cavity backs make a significant difference, or conversely, make no difference? I'd be interested to understand that further.

@jimrohnstock9913 5 жыл бұрын

Don't do it Mark. Keep having both Dan and Coach reviewing clubs. Some of the best comments and fun.

@MarkCrossfield 5 жыл бұрын

I love them doing reviews don’t worry.

@mattfrench6393 5 жыл бұрын

I definitely ejoyed having coach and Dan do a review together. Lockey has some fantastic insight and knowledge to share. And I'm not just saying that as a card carrying army member! 😂😂