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Cayley Mandadi Case Analysis | Drugs, Fall, Rough Sex, or Homicide?

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

3 жыл бұрын

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Cayley Mandadi?
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@CarlRayburg
@CarlRayburg 3 жыл бұрын
When someone is in an abusive relationship; there are two ways to leave. The first is the front door and the second is in a body bag.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 3 жыл бұрын
What about the back door or out the window ?
@tankthearc9875
@tankthearc9875 2 жыл бұрын
also cheating is never good
@glow1815
@glow1815 Жыл бұрын
@@Gos1234567 😂
@user-dk3up2nl1m
@user-dk3up2nl1m 2 ай бұрын
Lol...that was funny
@fritzidler9871
@fritzidler9871 3 жыл бұрын
One of my sisters when still young, went with this one guy for years, then one day he hit her. Just a slap. She broke it off with him on the spot, and refused to take him back. Her therapist congratulated her, telling her that is all to rare, in her experience.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing she wasn't already married to him when he slapped her eh?
@fritzidler9871
@fritzidler9871 3 жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 Yes. Or living together. Turned out he was cheating on her too. Though she found that out later. One time when visiting our parents, he stayed home, got drunk, and sited for driving under the influence. According to him, that made it her fault. If she had been there that weekend, he would not have got drunk and pulled over. I believe that's what started the fight she got slapped for. Her next boyfriend was much nicer, a real good guy. They did not last long, but it was a happy relationship.
@Coffeedrinker291
@Coffeedrinker291 3 жыл бұрын
Great on two ends- good for her, and taught the guy a valuable lesson too
@katiekarakondis3348
@katiekarakondis3348 3 жыл бұрын
GOOD FOR HER!
@fritzidler9871
@fritzidler9871 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coffeedrinker291 -It was great on my sisters end, who went on to find her true love. Unfortunately, her ex-boyfriend never did learn. He ended up passing his bad childhood onto a wife and kids.
@captainsouth4460
@captainsouth4460 3 жыл бұрын
When someone doesn't want to be with you, let them be and move on. Life moves on for the better.
@tankthearc9875
@tankthearc9875 2 жыл бұрын
she played with fire wanted both
@user-xg3uy6hq9g
@user-xg3uy6hq9g Жыл бұрын
@@tankthearc9875 the drama and make up sex is addicting to some.
@elainevankat5353
@elainevankat5353 Жыл бұрын
So true! She wanted both guys.... who were both involved in drugs!!! She was also doing drugs ...(she was going nowhere fast!).
@natalielawyerchick
@natalielawyerchick 3 жыл бұрын
That snoring is actually quite telling of a head injury.
@makepeace234
@makepeace234 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Indicative of coma.
@elijah1110
@elijah1110 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow interesting
@estefanymurillo22
@estefanymurillo22 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName
@LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName Жыл бұрын
Agonal breathing.
@TheStar798
@TheStar798 Жыл бұрын
​@@estefanymurillo22 It shows she had a severe brain stem injury. It's called 'agonal breathing', and sounds like heavy wet snoring - but can't be confused for sleep snoring (a very disturbing sound)
@DBSG1976
@DBSG1976 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how anybody can handle being in a love triangle, I think the negative emotions alone make trust and intimacy impossible.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
Most of all when that has nothing to do with true love when it becomes only a rape culture caused triangulation crisis that you find yourself in when you are only trying to be sociable instead of being always ever a stick in the mud Schizotypal type personality just because you don't own your own car too. By the way owning your own car doesn't always help if people in your crowd tend to see any woman driver as bein only ever a disobedient to her parents and probable a trauma survivor who is attracting violence type of gal. Or when it is just the kind of man who thinks that whenever a woman admits that they love him that means it is automatic going to mean marriage to him next too even before he asks her to marry him only because he thinks he is so great. Some women are like that too - Scary ones. Scary women for example who wouldn't mind at all when being asked to be experimenting on people to find more out about how the body functions during the experience of romance so they wouldn't have to remain an actor any more.
@peepawthecat
@peepawthecat 3 жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 u wot m8
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 3 жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 take your meds dude
@kswindl
@kswindl 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, seriously. The part of the video where Todd says, "Jet said that Kaylee said that she would break up with Mark at the festival." Weeeeew lad. Hahaha, was she trying to drive that guy fucking crazy? That's some peak hot-women-in-early-20s-behavior. Not that it justifies her murder, obviously.
@earthmother3024
@earthmother3024 2 жыл бұрын
@@kswindl The same festival that Jet would also be at. WTF? 🤦‍♀️
@Redrum101896
@Redrum101896 2 жыл бұрын
This is why once someone puts their hands on me I leave. I've had it happen to me twice. The first time it was my son's father. We were engaged. He locked me in a room for two days with his grandmother's help. He thought because we had a kid I wouldn't leave. I left with the baby and the clothes on our backs. Never looked back. First time was the last. He ended up marrying a woman (a wam he had been cheating on me with) with adult son's who wouldn't put up with their mother being abused. They got divorced a few years later. One of his sons is now a politican and covers for his father and his fathers past abuses of women. The second time was with my ex-husband, he forgot two things.....1) I left someone before for hitting me. 2) I took boxing as a teenager. I defended myself and walked out that same night. Never looked back. First time was the last in that one too. They all try the I'm sorry baby and so on. Nope....no thank you. Keep it moving, but not with me. My exhusband is now in prison for attempted murder of one of his girlfriends. That could have been me. I dodge multiple bullets, leaving them once the hand went up against me.
@numbskulI
@numbskulI Жыл бұрын
You seem to choose all the wrong ones, huh?
@PhD_Author
@PhD_Author 3 жыл бұрын
So sad. This defence was used in the Grace Millane case too. Rough sex is not a defence for killing a woman. Couples know not to kill each other. And couples don't have rough sex in a car in a public place which involves beating each other up to that extent.
@brad7566
@brad7566 3 жыл бұрын
Rough sex also doesn't include getting punched in the face/head repeatedly
@michaelarojas
@michaelarojas 3 жыл бұрын
Very toxic and abusive relationships end in bad/violent means.
@MrGOTAMA420
@MrGOTAMA420 3 жыл бұрын
rough sex is no excuse for killing anyone
@emp9413
@emp9413 3 жыл бұрын
@@brad7566 yep if he admitted to that definitely lying
@markstuckey6639
@markstuckey6639 3 жыл бұрын
So we're all experts on "rough sex". Who knows what others do?
@cheridehart7771
@cheridehart7771 3 жыл бұрын
She was not snoring in the car, it was the death gargle, the noises a person makes before they die.
@Mama_Bear524
@Mama_Bear524 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly yes.
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on Cherie.
@spiritualandsassy7165
@spiritualandsassy7165 3 жыл бұрын
That is heartbreaking 💔
@sarahalderman3126
@sarahalderman3126 Жыл бұрын
True, though as a nurse I seriously doubt a lay person could make that determination. Heck I’ve known both experienced nurses and doctors who can not, so an untrained lay person is unlikely to be aware.
@sandrag3854
@sandrag3854 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Mark killed her intentionally. His taking her to the hospital was to make him appear innocent.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds most logical or only a little more far fetched it could be one or more people including Mark being predatory towards poor minority students most of all if they are poor veterans too whom they want to experiment on after that student admits to anyone that they have gone through a lot.
@BodhiSatfa-co2zz
@BodhiSatfa-co2zz 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was def the marijuana found in his car that put this case over the edge. Not the previous assaults, destruction of property, or even the firearm. But the pot was def what's gonna do it.
@Bianca_Toeps
@Bianca_Toeps 3 жыл бұрын
Quite a risky move though, what if she survived?
@tankthearc9875
@tankthearc9875 2 жыл бұрын
i think she wanted good sex and a long term guy too. playing with fire is not good
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
The very first episode of violence in a relationship is a clear warning to walk away and NEVER look back.
@chilloften
@chilloften 3 жыл бұрын
Is breaking through a locked bedroom door violence?
@cheridehart7771
@cheridehart7771 3 жыл бұрын
@@chilloften yes, always.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
Sensible strategy. What do you do though if when you accept a date with someone else who starts feeling sorry for his friend of over age 18 whom you used to date until he told you that his father told him that he had to stop dating you and then while dating someone else who is only a high school student after the over age 18 year old guy shows up at the same function that you and your high school new boy friend went to after he got so drunk there that it was unsafe for him to drive home in his own car? Happened to me once when I was only age 16 and the whole time while being driven on home on that date while being driven by an underage driver it felt so scary because of what was going on in that car so that later I refused to see the man over age 18 given a lift ever again next when he called me up to ask me out on a date again despite the fact that his father had warned him to stay away from me. Then the immature only a high school student who had borrowed his daddy's car when going out on that date with me without bothering to ask me any questions about what had happened and how I had felt about the whole ordeal then stopped seeing me which was no great loss too. The over age 18 year old was studying to become a lawyer.
@cheridehart7771
@cheridehart7771 3 жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 Run as fast as you can.
@chilloften
@chilloften 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheridehart7771 ok thank you.
@hollywood2499
@hollywood2499 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. G! Looking sharp in that pink shirt sir! What a heartbreaking story this is! My boyfriend's sister died from a domestic violence incident. He was abusive to her and when she went to divorce him, he killed her (stabbed her to death). He's serving life in prison with no parole. My boyfriend doesn't really like to talk about it because it makes him so upset. It took him six months into even knowing him until he got the courage to tell me about his deceased sister (she was the oldest of six kids.). Women tend to be at higher risk of being killed when they try and leave their abusers sadly. It's hard to say what happened in this case, especially since they were into rough sex/rough stuff to begin with.
@Mama_Bear524
@Mama_Bear524 3 жыл бұрын
Aw I’m so sorry for him. And her. That’s awful but all too common.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Because women and men perceived as maybe being gay are often being held to much higher standards in some circles aren't they. Probable only because when police are at work it is a only a little harder to arrest men while still trying to collect evidence. Might explain why while the number of gadgets are increasing making it necessary for police to spend more time behind screens where they will not be getting enough exercise the prison population when it comes to females ending up in prison increased at an alarming rate in some states more than others. Leaving so many investigators frustrated that it becomes easier for the lower ranking less dedicated of them to take it out on the nearest alleged female accomplice. However it is true that some female organized crime boss crooks are so much more scary to police than the majority of male crooks because of how much more manipulative and cunning they become when on a criminally minded vendetta to avenge the death of one of their own.
@emp9413
@emp9413 3 жыл бұрын
How do we even know they were into rough sex? We buy it bc she was seeing several ppl, but wasn't it just the boyfriebds story
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@emp9413 It was rough sex, according to the boyfriend. Sure, we believe blunt force head trauma until you die is ALWAYS part of rough sex. 🙄
@jeneka0989
@jeneka0989 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly , entering a relationship, and ESPECIALLY a marriage , increases a woman’s risk of death when she wants to leave. Sadly. 😣😔😞
@ChristinePerez903
@ChristinePerez903 3 жыл бұрын
I think he did kill her out of anger.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father’s Day Dr. Grande, I hope you are having an enjoyable day with your family.✨🌹 On another note, your work ethic is boundless. On this special day, you still uploaded not one but two videos, the Patreon release was also excellent. Thank you for both.❤️
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 жыл бұрын
Another complex, sad case, with drugs involved. Always appreciate the work and thought put into cases Dr G 😊💜💜
@LS-te6pl
@LS-te6pl 2 жыл бұрын
I never met Cayley, but I know her Grandfather. I was so shocked and saddened to hear what had happened to her. I hope her family gets the justice they deserve ❤️
@playsaboutmycat
@playsaboutmycat 3 жыл бұрын
Bruises inside her legs and blunt force trauma to her head seems to rule out a fall.
@EasternDreamer615
@EasternDreamer615 3 жыл бұрын
I hope I’m never featured on Dr. Grande’s channel as a victim or an aggressor.
@shantoreywilkins651
@shantoreywilkins651 3 жыл бұрын
🎯
@trouaconti7812
@trouaconti7812 3 жыл бұрын
I surely hope you won’t be featured as the agressor either
@EasternDreamer615
@EasternDreamer615 3 жыл бұрын
@@trouaconti7812 I don't want to be a victim featured on here either.
@konijndehaas9167
@konijndehaas9167 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you be the aggressor? 😛
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 3 жыл бұрын
@@konijndehaas9167 If you have to pick one, which would you choose?
@bunnifer23
@bunnifer23 3 жыл бұрын
I 500% do not buy Mark’s story.
@HannahBee102
@HannahBee102 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing attention to this story, Dr. Grande. I went to school with her and it truly shook us all to the core when it happened. Such a sad story and a horrible ending that could have been avoided.
@tara_ble1705
@tara_ble1705 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father’s Day, Dr. G. Hope you have had a wonderful weekend 🙏🏼
@kati-ana
@kati-ana 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people enjoy rough sex, they don't end up dead or, end up killing their sexual partner. No one should ever be allowed to use that as a defense. Lastly, if you have a loved one of life support, please don't let the doctors and staff pressure you to remove them too quickly. I learned first hand that the brain is amazing. Sometimes the body needs a bit of time to recover. A week or two isn't long enough. My POV only.
@sherryd.3425
@sherryd.3425 3 жыл бұрын
That is very good advice in my experience. I have a strict DNR for myself, for both health and financial reasons. I have set my finances up to benefit my family in the most useful way possible. As I have aged, I have adjusted my health directives to reflect the most likely outcomes I might expect to experience should I encounter an unexpected health crisis. A younger person in good health may want to allow months, instead of mere weeks, on life support.
@mrparlanejxtra
@mrparlanejxtra 3 жыл бұрын
What a noble individual you are with great life knowledge.
@eldiablo4528
@eldiablo4528 3 жыл бұрын
Doctors wouldnt remove the life support if there was a chance for the brain to recover. These kinda conclusions are usually made after several tests for brain blood flow or neural activity.
@mrparlanejxtra
@mrparlanejxtra 3 жыл бұрын
@@eldiablo4528 Absolutely.
@hollywood2499
@hollywood2499 3 жыл бұрын
Very true! My boyfriend was in the ICU 3 different times on life support but the first time was the worst and he had multiple strokes and suffered brain damage and they didn't think he would make it and if he did that he was be in a vegetative state for the rest of his life but nobody gave up hope and he wound up coming out of it (it took him awhile of course. And he still has health issues to this day because of all the accidents he's had.) I am his Power of Attorney (healthcare anyways) and I would never pull the plug on him! He's a fighter and a survivor!
@jaydub4661
@jaydub4661 3 жыл бұрын
Abusers often threaten suicide as a form of manipulation and as Dr. Grande said to introduce the idea of death in the relationship.
@brianeaton9046
@brianeaton9046 3 жыл бұрын
A 22-year old driving a Mercedes is a huge red flag.
@teresafarrell6457
@teresafarrell6457 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like they were both involved in the "drug game".
@exxzaikialol6096
@exxzaikialol6096 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, not always haha
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
They often like to go stalking young women at schools only for women being run by nuns.
@lesliedavis3490
@lesliedavis3490 3 жыл бұрын
A spoiled, entitled brat.
@tnntlmmn277
@tnntlmmn277 3 жыл бұрын
@@exxzaikialol6096 pretty much 100% of the time.
@AndriaBieberDesigns
@AndriaBieberDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
It was murder. The perpetrators always say it’s rough sex when it’s rape etc
@ravishoul1432
@ravishoul1432 3 жыл бұрын
You always lie for free?
@HUCERBH3947
@HUCERBH3947 3 жыл бұрын
that is not how etc works you should give at least 2 example then proceed with etc
@michaelarojas
@michaelarojas 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard of this case so thanks for bringing it to light and giving an analysis!
@ImSquiggs
@ImSquiggs 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of reasons to love this channel, but I’m going to highlight one of my favourites by shouting out the constant solid analogies… I feel like some people that use a lot of analogies force them a bit and I’m like “yeah, that’s kinda the same thing I guess…” with some of them, but in these videos they’re always right on the money.
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great topic. There are alot of layers to this case. Thanks for this Dr. G. Please consider Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys.
@skeevynicks
@skeevynicks 3 жыл бұрын
@Hash Kushum a lot of he said she said, bizarre details, a love triangle. maybe not the most complex or dramatic but there are def layers to think about. like the drugs etc
@TheMerryPup
@TheMerryPup 3 жыл бұрын
If Mark is convicted of her murder he'll _really_ find out about rough sex. Five hundred percent.
@thereal4113
@thereal4113 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully he will find out in prison
@katyafan
@katyafan 3 жыл бұрын
@@thereal4113 Rape isn't funny, nor is it anything to wish upon someone.
@CBrown86
@CBrown86 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Its not always rape in prison. But for most of them they wont talk about it later
@joycejnn
@joycejnn 3 жыл бұрын
@@katyafan the remark was for people with a sense of humour
@rhiannongreen2642
@rhiannongreen2642 3 жыл бұрын
@@joycejnn I'm with her it's not funny, it's an institutional failing of the prison system. Making light of men being raped is particularly grim on a mental health analysis channel.
@mikeclendenin612
@mikeclendenin612 3 жыл бұрын
These are really well done , I’m glad I found your page
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande and community… Wishing a happy Father’s Day to decent dads. Keep in mind what a dad is, not what society necessarily labels, sometimes it’s the quiet solitude and thought that you can call home anytime. I am publicly honoring my father. He walked softly but their was always a quiet understanding with my father Val E. Yates. Not a perfect man but a good man. He was humble and way too hard on himself vs. others. An optimist and a navy veteran. He died 2018. I actually cannot remember the day in November 2018…. Anyhow I wanted to honor him her because I feel safe to do so in our community. As far as this case sad. Sick that rough sex is actually considered ok when it borders on sadism and well we know some of the rest of this story. Scary stuff! 🤔❤️🌎🇺🇸✊😜😳🤭
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful tribute to your father. You were blessed to have him, and he was blessed to have you. ❤❤❤
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustDr.S thank you.
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@elanahammer1076 ❤
@sierraj.1459
@sierraj.1459 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best teacher I wish I always had.
@annemiekvdbos
@annemiekvdbos 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Dr. Grande! When I see cases like this, I'm so glad I'm a happy single.. It will be interesting to see how this case will end. I hope you'll give us an update when court is over. Love from the Netherlands ❤🌵
@lindysaltwell9628
@lindysaltwell9628 3 жыл бұрын
I hope the police have checked security cameras in both areas he claims they parked.
@billhildebrand5053
@billhildebrand5053 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@isabellaleifsdottir
@isabellaleifsdottir 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaw is that new cactus 🌵 crafted by your kids for Father’s Day? It’s cute either way and happy Father’s Day 😃
@zulemazahir666
@zulemazahir666 3 жыл бұрын
The analogy of the "small bomb" was actually a really good way to put that. I just might use that someday. As scary and as difficult it can be to leave an abusive relationship, I truly hope anyone going through that is aware of the risks and better yet, leaves that risk.
@lnc-to4ku
@lnc-to4ku 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, your lessons at the end are so incredibly well put...."Its not a small event in a relationship, it should be considered as a shocking and horrible event." I know someone who is habitually attracted to the "red flag" types of people, and she just refuses to listen to good, solid advice. I wish she'd listen to your many words of wisdom! ♡
@meowateyourchips7417
@meowateyourchips7417 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I managed to cut ties off with my abusive ex when I was a teen. I was young and didn't see the signs. He was extremely insecure, jealous and possessive but I just thought that was love. I wanted to get out the relationship for months but I was scared to. I did it right before summer holidays so I wouldn't have to face him. He still stalked and harassed me and my friends for another 2 years. Stayed single for a long time after that because I felt like I couldn't even breathe freely during that relationship. I don't know what kind of lies he spread about me either because even years later when I was in college, one of his friends would call me names every time they walked past me.
@kimsmith819
@kimsmith819 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, yet very sad story. I had never heard about this case before. Sounds a little bizarre to me.
@IndicaPrincess
@IndicaPrincess 3 жыл бұрын
It’s frustrating when they talk about bruising because bruising isn’t really apparent until 1-2 days after sustaining the injury! It’s not surprising bruises weren’t noticeable when she was admitted to the hospital.
@okidgaf7643
@okidgaf7643 3 жыл бұрын
u looking great today dr grande!! love the pink
@ultraviolet6989
@ultraviolet6989 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I speculate that cool winter colours work best on Dr. Grande.
@okidgaf7643
@okidgaf7643 3 жыл бұрын
@@ultraviolet6989 hehehe i rly like the pink shirt on him tho
@jackiegrice714
@jackiegrice714 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father’s Day! Hope your gift was not a neck tie. 😁
@annemiekvdbos
@annemiekvdbos 3 жыл бұрын
🤪😂
@gailkelly4651
@gailkelly4651 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Todd...lovely to see you again....people always seem to get into relationships they have no business being in. Never is good to mess with married people. Too much room for serious problems. Thank you . Take care. Stay safe and well and your family also.
@thereal4113
@thereal4113 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it ironic that the "rough sex" defense is used when the woman is the victim? Seriously???? It's like telling the teacher your dog ate your homework. It's probably not a good idea to have multiple relationships but definitely not a crime. Thank you Dr. Grande🪴🪴🪴🪴
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
And, isn't it ironic that the "rough sex" defense almost always goes along with a crook saying the dead woman was drinking and/or taking legal or illegal drugs? And, isn't it true that the same set of weak excuses are often offered in court too whenever a dead person room mate is a man instead? And so who was for real a lot of the time in crimes like these taking too much drug maybe starting when young for ADHD or MDMA [Ecstacy] for PTSD to make sure the student will please their folks enough with good grades? Researchers in South Carolina have begun experimenting with MDMA for patients with post-traumatic stress disorder.
@wonderwoman5528
@wonderwoman5528 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Imagine a woman using this in defence of murdering a man? She’d be laughed at
@victorsegoviapalacios4710
@victorsegoviapalacios4710 3 жыл бұрын
"It's probably not a good idea to have multiple relationships but definitely not a crime. " Well, not a crime, but dumb. And being dumb can kill you.
@thereal4113
@thereal4113 3 жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 women det victimized 2x. First by the attacker an then by the court system
@nightshadehelis9821
@nightshadehelis9821 3 жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 the second half of your comment is incoherent. Wtf does MDMA have to do with ADHD meds and a young woman getting murdered?
@smallaxolotl8000
@smallaxolotl8000 3 жыл бұрын
"rough sex or homicide" is a cool band name
@user-ty3oc5ph5e
@user-ty3oc5ph5e 3 жыл бұрын
Dr G, would you please delve further into the psyche of people who do "rough sex", and what the appeal is..? I love sex like anyone else; but as a sexual trauma survivor, all of the screaming and banging around of my neighbor who does it literally gives me panic attacks. If I don't wear headphones to sleep I'm sleep deprived and anxiety ridden the following day. Honestly, I fall asleep to the calming sounds of your analyses most nights lately🥺. What could possibly be pleasurable in something that sounds so terrifying?
@eugefederico1178
@eugefederico1178 3 жыл бұрын
Happy father's day Dr Grande!
@mangafq8
@mangafq8 2 жыл бұрын
Cayley made a tragic and fatal error in playing with the emotions of these men. Getting sexually involved while not fully emotionally invested is an unfortunate decision. I think she also liked the rivalry she created not realizing she was playing with fire. Plus with the drugs and so forth. yikes. Not too bright, to tell you the truth. May she be resting in peace.
@janesmith9628
@janesmith9628 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT ???!!! Some new cacti have joined the group?? The littler one is "camouflaged" against the brick wall, so hard to tell if he's really new or not. OK, back to watching today's video.
@Catglittercrafts
@Catglittercrafts 3 жыл бұрын
Very confusing case Toxic codependent relationships and drugs is always a disaster
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 3 жыл бұрын
A relationship to a drug user is always going to influence that other person to become codependent over time regardless of who the other person is. A relationship with 2 drug users including the drug made in a persons brain through their own eyes and through their own will by being open to and participating in illicit sex is going to be codependent on both sides.
@Catglittercrafts
@Catglittercrafts 3 жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 You don’t have to tell me. I dated and was in love with an alcoholic for a couple years and it definitely changed me during that time and I hated myself. I’m so glad I got out
@Adrian-zd4cs
@Adrian-zd4cs Жыл бұрын
Y'all do realize it's normal to use recreational drugs? Some of use CAN do that. Especially at a party, MDMA, from experience, should never cause violence or even wanting to be violated.
@Adrian-zd4cs
@Adrian-zd4cs Жыл бұрын
@@francesbernard2445 you're comparing a male using steroids to a female using MDMA.... Interesting
@TheN00bmonster
@TheN00bmonster 3 жыл бұрын
I was at the University around the time this happened. I didn't know Cayley but a lot of my friends did. The community was totally shaken by her death and moreso by the injustice of the potential perpetrator not being arrested for a long time.
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
You are right with your arguments, doctor.🌺
@Yolanda8419
@Yolanda8419 3 жыл бұрын
We had an awful case of a homicide in Greece unraveling in the past couple of days. A pilot killed his wife and tried to make it look like a burglary. The most disturbing aspect is that his placed their 11 month old daughter next to her dead mother and also hanged their dog in order to throw the police of his scent. The police made him confess after 37 days of lying. I felt it compelling that a psychologist that was analyzing the situation said that there doesn’t seem to be any psychological issues of psychopathic nature but just extreme narcissism combined with dominance and jealousy. It made me understand what she was saying due to all of your videos. She also made a point of saying that constantly saying that a killer is a psychopath is unfair to all the people that live with mental issues and deal with the stigma that they might be dangerous. Love the video, Doc.
@Hikarixhikarixhikari
@Hikarixhikarixhikari 2 жыл бұрын
Your ending statements are simply * *chef's kiss* *
@billhildebrand5053
@billhildebrand5053 3 жыл бұрын
Even if Dr. Grandes real name was Dr. Piccolo (meaning small, in Italian). He would still be *Grande* in the way he analyzes these cases with integrity and compassion. I particularly like the analogy of constructing small bombs, which are just as significant as large bombs. No matter the pink shirt, it still stands out amidst the gruelling depravity of the subject matter. A trinity of horror, no doubt.😢🥳😢. Thanks, Doctor. 😢😪😢
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 3 жыл бұрын
👀🔮🎭👁🦉🌅
@Cinnamongirl119
@Cinnamongirl119 3 жыл бұрын
As always your videos are so organised and articulate. You assert just enough opinion for it to still be educational. Really interesting take on this case and you’ve added more insight despite the fact I’ve heard this case a few times.
@kerrichristian7991
@kerrichristian7991 3 жыл бұрын
So sad for such a young person.
@lowelllarsen5947
@lowelllarsen5947 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this case before but now I sure know ALL the details after this Grande review
@michaelarojas
@michaelarojas 3 жыл бұрын
Same here he brings unknown cases to light
@ellenstewart6768
@ellenstewart6768 3 жыл бұрын
Happy father's day and thank you for your you tube content
@memyself4431
@memyself4431 3 жыл бұрын
sometimes when women are in that position they NEver know are blinded, they still seek that sweet person who they believed they were with, and they are scared to leave. I know that even though it is obvious to others it isn't to the victim
@mcnally211
@mcnally211 3 жыл бұрын
& men too! Abuse goes both ways. My ex tried to kill me 2xs. Once with a hammer.
@memyself4431
@memyself4431 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcnally211 wow, it helps to hear about it and I hope it helps for you to talk about it
@autumnedwards4448
@autumnedwards4448 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father's Day to you Dr Grande! Thank you for another great analysis! Keep up the good work doc!💙💙
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis as per usual. Happy Fathers Day Dr Grande, hope you have a great day.Your content and channel are the best.
@rullmourn1142
@rullmourn1142 3 жыл бұрын
Blunt force trauma could be to the back of her head, or any part of her head other than her face. Did the ME give an exact location of the head trauma.
@SomeOne-ji8ny
@SomeOne-ji8ny 3 жыл бұрын
His hand sores are from beating something in anger...like a wall or something. He freaked out after he took her head and banged it against something and realized he hurt her bad and she was gonna die. That's when he started hitting something with his hands. Voluntary Manslaughter.
@GiveMeCoffee
@GiveMeCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like these people were getting into relationships without proper communication or establishing boundaries...
@josievanotterlo5191
@josievanotterlo5191 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all your views on every case I’ve watched. Very informative. I would love to see your take on the case of young Gabriel Fernandez…his story continues to haunt me. Thank you.
@AMM3.
@AMM3. 2 жыл бұрын
After my sister in-law died from a heart attack she looked like she had been beaten due to hospital staff trying to resuscitate her...
@SHOT_GUNNER
@SHOT_GUNNER 3 жыл бұрын
Another one from the #1 doctor on KZfaq. 🤠
@brianpratt3224
@brianpratt3224 3 жыл бұрын
One of these days we are going to see a saguaro behind Dr. Grande.
@sherryd.3425
@sherryd.3425 3 жыл бұрын
If you're game, I'm all in. I'll dig up the saguaro from my mother's yard. Will you rent the flat bed truck?
@CBrown86
@CBrown86 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Dr G, your message at the end really hit home for me personally
@uglypetty8794
@uglypetty8794 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I was in an emotionally abusive relationship for 5 years. When I tried to end the relationship, this person became physically abusive, I was luckily able to isolate myself (by crawling), with a phone, in a bathroom and called 911. My mother stayed overnight and my father changed the locks first thing in the morning. I started counseling with the main goal of never reconciling with my abuser. Fast forward 8 years , my ex publicly killed themselves in front of a pollitical figure for whom they had "unrequited love." It was well covered in the media and my family is so happy I did the work to end that relationship. It took 8 years, lots of counseling and the death of my abuser for me to finally feel safe. It's finally over.
@fairyelephant
@fairyelephant 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's time we had a new introduction to your cacti. There's quite a few additions since you last introduced us. There's also a very nice, homemade looking cactus. Oh and the video was very interesting as always. Thanks Dr. G.!
@TrixiLovesYou
@TrixiLovesYou 3 жыл бұрын
How could anything go wrong with this kind of set-up, under such conditions with these fine people?
@mysteryjunkie9808
@mysteryjunkie9808 3 жыл бұрын
Love triangle with druggies seems like a recipe for disaster
@emilyhollis4231
@emilyhollis4231 3 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt, Dr Grande!! 💞💕💞
@lolaluevano
@lolaluevano 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video thank you Dr. Grande and happy father's day!
@saxongreen78
@saxongreen78 Жыл бұрын
Abuse of any kind is the _end_ of the relationship...that also includes mind games and power plays involving third parties.
@kewlideas7687
@kewlideas7687 3 жыл бұрын
Mark is guilty
@lindsayantwine1097
@lindsayantwine1097 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder how the men around her when she was growing up treated her. Like, was she used to being mistreated and she didn't see any cause for concern because it was normal to her? I also wonder why such a beautiful girl who could have literally any man she wanted would choose these two losers?? Why?
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 3 жыл бұрын
There's always a reason. Crapola is always deterministic.( fate) Destiny is a discontinuous process and is intuitively directed.
@kelliearnold8498
@kelliearnold8498 2 жыл бұрын
There’s one of my favorite shirts. Dang 500 percent. That’s crazy. There’s no way she could have enjoyed that. It’s horrible. Well done Dr.Grande.
@SSM2808
@SSM2808 3 жыл бұрын
Sunday’s are for Leg Day then Dr Grande and chill
@danielpalmer1297
@danielpalmer1297 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande is the best! I really wish he would do the Robert Wone case, I want to know his mental analysis for those involved! Such a weird case!
@lysawoolley9008
@lysawoolley9008 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father’s Day
@roberttauzer7042
@roberttauzer7042 3 жыл бұрын
Between rough sex and murder is a vast chasm of difference. Her being on xtc does not mean anything, millions of youths are, they don't fall and kill themselves. There is lot of stupidity, wrong choices, irresponsibility in between all of those three young people, but only one murderer.
@NovemberRain007
@NovemberRain007 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father's Day, Dr. Grande 🥰 ♥️🥂, I hope your day has been extra special 💞... I'm hoping you can evaluate the trial /jury/situation in the Chris (Kit) Martin triple murder case... The jury just found this man guilty despite all the reasonable doubt, especially with his bonkers of an ex wife whom surely framed him, planted evidence and refused to testify instead she and her spawn pled the 5th 🙄... Ohhhh and the KZfaqr drama concerning Creepshow Art, too long to get into... But yeah... Love you, Dr. G 😘!
@BB-dy6iu
@BB-dy6iu 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Grande, would love to hear your “speculation” and “observation”on Simon Gittany and the murder of Lisa Harnum. Thank you!
@mardukl
@mardukl 3 жыл бұрын
oh and what happened to the cactus?! I got cacti socks on this morning... cold in Australia !!
@nickcage6389
@nickcage6389 3 жыл бұрын
Swanky
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 3 жыл бұрын
It certainly is. I wearing bedsocks all the day and night.
@analozada9475
@analozada9475 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father’s Day, Dr. Grande! 🖤✨🎉 Super sad ending…🙏♥️✨💔
@LordBaltimore009
@LordBaltimore009 3 жыл бұрын
If somebody dies during "rough sex," it should still be considered negligent homicide, or negligent manslaughter.
@TheMaxKids
@TheMaxKids 2 жыл бұрын
Assault with a friendly weapon.
@elizeleroux6388
@elizeleroux6388 3 жыл бұрын
He was insanely jealous and became sadistic, the strangle hold sex might have been the best excuse for him thinking he might get off lightly, anger through jealousy is murder, the first signs woman should look out for to leave a man as soon as possible if he has these traits
@tinacollins9213
@tinacollins9213 3 жыл бұрын
Great video love how you tell it in such detail
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
11:50 This is SO important, and perfectly said. The most important message, in 30 seconds. (But keep listening to the end.)
@cereneryilmaz6715
@cereneryilmaz6715 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video Dr Grande!!!
@TheBub26
@TheBub26 3 жыл бұрын
dr grande should do a affluenza doubleheader. he could combine the similar cases of ethan couch & paul murdaugh, comparing the two
@malabuha
@malabuha 3 жыл бұрын
'Who's gonna believe me' type of situation... When a testimony sounds ridiculous and inculpatory, it could actually be the truth: A teacher called me out to explain a bad decision i made. I didnt wanna lie and insult his intellingence. My class mates probably expected me to wiggle out of trouble by lying. I told him what happened and the teacher only said ok. A few moments later i received a note from someone in the class. It said: if you are going to lie, at least learn how it's done. But it was the truth. I'm not saying the guy is innocent, just that sometimes truth can sound like a bad lie
@malabuha
@malabuha 3 жыл бұрын
@Hash Kushum lol Exactly. Who would offer an improbable explanation and incriminate themselves? Backhand slapping should not be as hard as regular slapping. It is impractical, but it does keep your partner safer if you get carried away. Why were the back of his hands red? I dont get that... somebody pulling him by the both of his hands? How does he carry on the assault if both of his hands are tied? I mean... i think he did it... a healthy young girl dies on a date.. and he had violent past (if i'm not mistaking) and she was playing with him.. there was definitely a motive. But what if he didnt cause her death?
@malabuha
@malabuha 3 жыл бұрын
@Hash Kushum i think i know why his hands were red. Because he got caught. Hmm ☺
@malabuha
@malabuha 3 жыл бұрын
@TheHouseOfGames3 well then.. i am definitely glad i dont have to be the judge of that. I'm just speculating what could be happening in a case this 😉
@malabuha
@malabuha 3 жыл бұрын
@TheHouseOfGames3 that's true
@tawnie9204
@tawnie9204 3 жыл бұрын
I like the pink shirt doc! Looks good
@keithbram7010
@keithbram7010 3 жыл бұрын
This is a crime not an accident. Unjust to blame the victim who can not defend herself. Drugs should not be suggested as a contribution to her blunt force trauma. Ridiculous. That dude towers over her. This is kidnapping, sexual assault, and murder. A capital offense because it occurred concurrent with another felony. Lock him up !
@kkheflin3
@kkheflin3 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Dr. G..."Mark said the 'rough sex' was 500% consensual!" This Mark Howerton character needs to hook up with Dalia Dippolito. She told the undercover cop she was "500% positive" she wanted her husband killed. Math is not either one of their strong suits apparently..
@devilstar3476
@devilstar3476 3 жыл бұрын
Here from your 'Amityville' and 'Ed & Lorraine Warren' videos and love your points! I like your paranormal explanations in general. Could you look into the case that inspired the Exorcist next??
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 3 жыл бұрын
Every paranormal explanation from the Dr. Is........... 100% Delution....✅
@bricksloth6920
@bricksloth6920 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Grande cactus and succulent friends 🌵🌵🌵🌵🌵
@becky4642
@becky4642 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice puts me to sleep. Its all good. Love your videos.
@ultraviolet6989
@ultraviolet6989 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Grande, please analyze the Jan Broberg (abducted twice) case.
@mardukl
@mardukl 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this speculation on what could be happening in a situation like this...If you could speculate on Charlie Zelonoff, he is quite something!!
@mariagrace817
@mariagrace817 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful new mic! And you sound great!
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