The hidden price of your clothes: Hidden camera (Marketplace)

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2 жыл бұрын

We captured hidden camera video exposing where some of your favourite Canadian fashion brands source some of their clothes. We also get to the truth behind some of those “made in the USA” labels.
To read more: cbc.ca/1.6236820
Update: Canadian retail giant Reitmans Ltd. will remove from its stores all remaining inventory made at a factory in China suspected of using North Korean forced labour, according to a press release from the company.
To read more: www.cbc.ca/1.6240153
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@JOEE519
@JOEE519 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember when you watch shark tank and dragons den and they say we can "outsource" this and get it much cheaper....this is what they are talking about.
@TDW8964
@TDW8964 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this point about Shark Tank! On Dragons Den,a pitch I saw was for furniture that was promoted as Canada Made, and Mr Wonderful stop the presenters and said "no one cares if it Canada Made, we can have it made cheaper else where".
@xerces27
@xerces27 2 жыл бұрын
@@TDW8964 Canadians care a lot!
@TDW8964
@TDW8964 2 жыл бұрын
@@xerces27 yes exactly of course we do!
@KalyElizabeth
@KalyElizabeth 2 жыл бұрын
I think about that every time they say that. It takes a lot of exploitation of people to get really really rich.
@yvetteparker
@yvetteparker 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, fortunately the trend is moving away from outsourcing.
@mbr0916
@mbr0916 2 жыл бұрын
“No! This is the price _they_ pay, for *our* cheap clothes.”
@clarencetaylor7455
@clarencetaylor7455 2 жыл бұрын
that is one smart guy
@Kindnessmatters2
@Kindnessmatters2 2 жыл бұрын
He did not even flinch at that response.. he is a great advocate!!!
@le_th_
@le_th_ 2 жыл бұрын
This is how you put a narcissist in their place. So much respect for this researcher who didn't FLINCH at this narcissistic interviewer trying to make this human trafficking story about himself.
@WhyYoutubeWhy
@WhyYoutubeWhy Жыл бұрын
@@le_th_ Whaaat?! The story was not about himself.
@8BitNaptime
@8BitNaptime 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when that clothing factory collapsed in Bangladesh in 2013? Over a thousand workers died, and I remember some fashion company executives crying on TV about how they'll change things. Guess they meant change countries.
@mitchashaya1089
@mitchashaya1089 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t need this much clothes, we need to take care of the clothes we have and buy good quality clothes.
@TheFeliciakelley
@TheFeliciakelley 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TheFeliciakelley
@TheFeliciakelley 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to shop at H & M , Forever 21 and places like that . I prefer quality over quantity!
@happymunchkin2812
@happymunchkin2812 2 жыл бұрын
I always do. I would not buy anything cheap unless it cheap but quality.
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 2 жыл бұрын
You can't chase fads and trends that way though, and many people want the latest thing
@luchiayoung
@luchiayoung 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@ivoted-5489
@ivoted-5489 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if we will ever get back to “quality over quantity”, but we sure need to.
@thatcanada
@thatcanada 2 жыл бұрын
It would also help to have more employers like the guy paying his employees at least minimum and seeing his workers as equal humans.
@e2U
@e2U 2 жыл бұрын
Those companies make so much money, if they just took much less, all would be ok across the board for the workers, who would be able to have a nice life.
@hurtmanp5803
@hurtmanp5803 2 жыл бұрын
Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV. Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
@hishers1220
@hishers1220 2 жыл бұрын
Amen, this is what decimated the Textile industry in New York and, if it hasn't happened yet, Toronto will be next.
@KOLAkola
@KOLAkola 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@cassieoconnell774
@cassieoconnell774 2 жыл бұрын
I'm now a senior and I can remember my mom making clothes from patterns, and knitting sweaters, hats, gloves, slippers, etc. That was a different time.
@hishers1220
@hishers1220 2 жыл бұрын
Look, how long your clothes lasted, compared to the poor quality of nowadays. Very sad.
@melissacole4903
@melissacole4903 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to learn to make simple clothes
@cherylsibson2529
@cherylsibson2529 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, my grandmother used to sew too.
@tonistark4169
@tonistark4169 2 жыл бұрын
I’m probably the same age, Cassie and because I was so tall 5’9” with a 33” inseam like in grade 6? My mom, God rest her soul, made ALL my pants, dresses for prom, sorority functions or ANY place that I needed clothes. She made our clothes even in grade school! She lined what needed to be lined and added trim for those parties in the 70’s. I was wearing an “original” and she did a BEAUTIFUL job. I miss that quality. Poor thing cutting out patterns and seeing her little fingers off. Then, as adults, she took that left over scraps and made my sister and I a quilt out of those scraps! It’s beautiful! I still have it. She even embroidered her name and date on it. Even though I still have it, the fabric is so old, if I’d wash it, those fabrics are tearing from old age lol. I may frame the quilt but it would fit double size bed. It’s like living my childhood as I can remember each and every outfit again! It’s one of my dearest treasures! 🌹💕
@cassieoconnell774
@cassieoconnell774 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonistark4169 Ha ha, I was 5'9 (and a half) back then. Now I'm 5'7 and need a stepstool for everything. Not necessarily shrinking, just a bit wider. ☺
@turn2page394
@turn2page394 2 жыл бұрын
The customers say they’re disgusted, and it’s unacceptable. But we know when given the choice to buy a shirt from a big box store for $15, or a locally made, (exactly the same) shirt for $50, most will pick the cheaper option.
@kathymetzle8099
@kathymetzle8099 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you live in Canada, but the $50 is the cheap option here... quality locally made garments are closer to $100-$200 each. Personally I can't even afford Old Navy or Walmart most of the time. Personally I choose thrift stores, where a shirt might be $15-$20. Prices are a bit higher in my part of the country to be clear.
@swish043
@swish043 2 жыл бұрын
This is why systemic change is the only way to go.... These industries take advantage of our human weaknesses. Only regulation will slow that down.
@luchiayoung
@luchiayoung 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathymetzle8099 I have clothes 10-20 years old. Do people really need new clothes?
@user-iq2dd1rv4z
@user-iq2dd1rv4z 2 жыл бұрын
@@luchiayoung yes you may have clothes from years ago, but what about the new generation, the young people? They have to get their clothing from stores nowadays they don't have a choice. Unfortunately most products not just clothes aren't good quality unless very expensive and most can't afford it.
@user-iq2dd1rv4z
@user-iq2dd1rv4z 2 жыл бұрын
Only clothing? Most everything nowadays is poor quality that don't last. Electronics, appliances, even food. What about the high cost of electricity, gas and internet 8n Canada. Winter is around the corner and many people will have to choose between having food on the table or not having enough heat in the house. How about a documentary on this issue
@MPaz-im7mu
@MPaz-im7mu 2 жыл бұрын
My mom, may God rest her soul, was a seamstress in the garment industry for 50 years. I remember her salary was $1.25 a garment. A far cry from the actual selling price for the garment. The garments made were selling for $50 each. Mom instructed her kids never to touch a sewing machine.
@swish043
@swish043 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously the answer is to teach them to make their own clothes ;)
@FreeAssange_
@FreeAssange_ 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@KindaJadedish
@KindaJadedish 2 жыл бұрын
my grandma told me she made a 2 pennies and hour drawing models on the runway
@caaaakee
@caaaakee 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had your moms wisdom
@Mitchell_is_smart._You2bs_dumb
@Mitchell_is_smart._You2bs_dumb 2 жыл бұрын
Now, I'm looking at a shirt and I see five seams. I'm betting I could sew that in 15 minutes with a machine on my first try. Within a couple days, I'm sure I'd be down to 10 minutes, or 6 an hour. That's $7.75 an hour, and I think that's minimum wage today. Now if I think about doing that for years, I could see that shirt taking under 5 minutes if not under 3. So if she was any good at all, she would have made bank, especially adjusting for inflation. A garment would have to take at least 12 minutes to stitch in order to earn an average hourly wage below in today's market at that price. As for receiving just under 3% of the retail value for the clothing, why would she deserve more than that? What did she invest in each piece? She didn't buy the fabric, cut it, dye it, package it, label it, make the labels, ship it, deliver it, stock it or sell it. She didn't pay the power for the sewing machine, the thread, the fuel to ship it to the factory, the dye to color it, the workers that grew the cotton, the workers that harvested the cotton, the workers who turned cotton into fabric, the fuel to get it to the distributor, the workers that organized the product for store transfer, the electricity at distribution center, the fuel to ship it to the store, the electricity at the store, the rent for the space the store occupied, rent at the distributor, rent at the factory, property taxes on the farm, the water bill at the farm, water at the factory, water at the distributor, or water at the store. Not to mention all the people in the background who market the brand, do payroll, organize logistics, and do front end design. I think I listed over thirty three factors that go into the cost of selling that shirt, and I know I could list more, but that's enough to show that she got more than an equal share of the money. So this story is false, and everyone agreeing with the implications of low pay have no concept of realistic value, and didn't bother to think before they signaled their virtue. Congratulations, you got played by an extremely low effort troll. Obvious troll should be obvious, but the fact that it isn't is frightening.
@amiek9226
@amiek9226 2 жыл бұрын
As a frequent customer and former employee of Reitman’s, I am truly disappointed. Until they step up and take responsibility for ensuring ethical practices all along their supply chain, I’m going to consider myself a former customer as well. The federal government also needs to step up and start requiring the CBSA to enforce their mandates.
@anitaaustralia
@anitaaustralia 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they were made an example of in this documentary; I'd expect a large percentage of our retail chains are very unethical
@mellie118
@mellie118 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for Reitmans and shopped there even before I got a job with them. I am shook to my core that there is a possibility that I have bought or sold garments that have come from these facilities. I love reitmans and am having a difficult time with it myself.
@nightskyft
@nightskyft 2 жыл бұрын
I love how people pretend to be surprised and insist on boycotting. When nike is still going strong.
@brininahoward5445
@brininahoward5445 2 жыл бұрын
Not only Nike, it's Coach, BeBe, Wrangler etc. Don't leave those out!!
@christophercolumbus8944
@christophercolumbus8944 2 жыл бұрын
that guy is wearing nike sneakers himself haha
@Evejackson777.
@Evejackson777. 2 жыл бұрын
This video needs more viewers. Honestly I’m just gonna buy sewing kits and just thrift if I need new clothes or not shop at all. This is crazy.
@valdamarielegault1907
@valdamarielegault1907 2 жыл бұрын
We live in such a broken world! Its heart wrenching to know most of us have unknowingly supported this! May we all do our part in changing this.
@mariazahedi7444
@mariazahedi7444 2 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that people make these clothes for so cheap, but if I want to buy a shawl it's still $150.00. At least pay them a decent wage if you're going to sell the clohing for such high prices.
@robertsmith1865
@robertsmith1865 2 жыл бұрын
True, pay the workers. Even then it lets you know they still don't have to charge a arm and a leg
@elizalee1214
@elizalee1214 2 жыл бұрын
It won't happen in a capitalist world.
@jenwylie4093
@jenwylie4093 2 жыл бұрын
It's very hard to find ethical clothing. I would think most people should know that you can't make a t-shirt for $10 and have a happy healthy worker making it. I choose to buy most of my clothes second hand since I can't afford to buy from an ethical source.
@jceeross6763
@jceeross6763 2 жыл бұрын
Me too Jen, your a smart shopper
@rhaven50
@rhaven50 2 жыл бұрын
Better quality product too
@ConnieFaye
@ConnieFaye 2 жыл бұрын
same
@FullSpectrumWarrior
@FullSpectrumWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
What’s ethical to you? Central and South American made?
@GM-jv9jz
@GM-jv9jz 2 жыл бұрын
Second hand isnt ethical either
@janinem9794
@janinem9794 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy I'm not the only one who thinks about what happens behind the scenes. Second-hand is the way to go!!
@honeybdream
@honeybdream 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I totally agree! The world has too many clothes now‼️🌎
@kulrich10
@kulrich10 2 жыл бұрын
And second hand prices have sky rocketed
@99cooking.
@99cooking. 2 жыл бұрын
@@kulrich10 I've seen $15 shirts at Goodwill. You can get a new one at that price
@savvyconsumer7342
@savvyconsumer7342 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Seco d hand for many reasons s. It does not however guarantee you will not be pursing forced labor manufactured products.
@JayandSarah
@JayandSarah 2 жыл бұрын
If everyone cut clothing purchased in half, there would be lots of impoverished people, with even less work. Think about that for a moment. It's very complex. Same with your local workers, who are in retail. No sales, no jobs. No stores, no malls. It's the world that has been created for us, by us. And it's not going away.
@Aurisma75
@Aurisma75 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you CBC and Marketplace. As a former employee who was paid by YM inc., I am glad that this is being brought to light.
@avamaria21
@avamaria21 2 жыл бұрын
I know how to sew. I've made clothes for children occasionally and loved ones and I was going to focus on quilts as gifts, but this expose inspires me to make all my own clothes going forward.
@6ixConfessions
@6ixConfessions 2 жыл бұрын
I applaud your enthusiasm & empathy, but the other issue is; where & under what conditions are the textiles & patterns you'll be using sourced? It's a knock-on effect & so much bigger than we think. From the farmers who grow the fibers to the workers in the factory where the textiles are made. We are at the mercy of these massive greedy & unethical companies & governing bodies that don't care & allow them to have a monopoly on the things we need & want. How can we, as consumers, possibly know where & under what conditions all of the products we use are made? It's a never-ending maze of deception & greed. However, having said all of that, one step at a time by each of us is better than doing nothing at all, so good for you for caring enough to do your part. ❤️
@6ixConfessions
@6ixConfessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@cirsiumc Then you should be commended for your diligence. Keep up the good work.
@rachelcookie321
@rachelcookie321 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy making clothes and I think it’s better but it’s a lot more expensive. Fabric is so expensive. I just can’t afford to make my own clothes. I made a skirt and it’s not that good but the fabric alone cost me $40.
@6ixConfessions
@6ixConfessions 2 жыл бұрын
@Luther Blissett Hahahaha, you never know. You could start a new fashion trend.
@6ixConfessions
@6ixConfessions 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachelcookie321 I've noticed that too & the cost of patterns has risen & buttons, nice buttons are a ridiculous cost if you can actually manage to find nice ones.
@jceeross6763
@jceeross6763 2 жыл бұрын
Love this type of investigative journalism these are the stories I love to see thank you for sharing
@nikkilu7248
@nikkilu7248 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you marketplace for making these shows! These are such important information that every canadian needs to know. It's also comforting there are still real investigative journalists exist.
@baby.nay.
@baby.nay. Жыл бұрын
I’ve learned sooo much from this series and I’m not even Canadian .
@lindaeliis8239
@lindaeliis8239 2 жыл бұрын
I have taken to sewing my own clothes. It is slow, but I feel so much better. Another upside is that the fabrics are much better.
@careya
@careya 2 жыл бұрын
I do as well. I started because I wanted better fit and fabrics beside polyester, but the more I learned about fashion manufacturing and overconsumption, the happier I am with creating my own clothing.
@sChick-vy3vi
@sChick-vy3vi 2 жыл бұрын
What scares me is Amazon and the millions of independent Chinese clothing companies that pay for pop up ads. Also, Wish!
@JayandSarah
@JayandSarah 2 жыл бұрын
Why does that scare you? What should scare you is the millions of western citizens so oblivious that they support that stuff.
@sChick-vy3vi
@sChick-vy3vi 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayandSarah I'm guessing that people everywhere are ignorant to it. I wouldn't have known, nor would you or many others if we didn't watch this.
@benm3382
@benm3382 6 ай бұрын
I hate that for every 10 people who try to be careful about what they buy, there's that person who will mindlessly order a bunch of stuff from Amazon and end up throwing half out.
@sChick-vy3vi
@sChick-vy3vi 6 ай бұрын
@@benm3382 It's more like Temu these days, times have changed big time in 2 years!
@aspiringfurnitureflipper9087
@aspiringfurnitureflipper9087 2 жыл бұрын
“This is the price they’re paying for our cheap clothes” ugh my heart.
@honeybdream
@honeybdream 2 жыл бұрын
I know right ⁉️
@aspiringfurnitureflipper9087
@aspiringfurnitureflipper9087 2 жыл бұрын
@@honeybdream I wish there was a way to tell clothes from happy employees kind of like that beauty store Lush! I think they missed their opportunity to recommend brands or stores.
@xDeydeyxtartelette
@xDeydeyxtartelette 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a similar investigation about clothes made in Italy? Italy is associated with premium for a lot, yet there are so many sweatshops there. Canadian brands like Rachel claim to be ethical but they outsource in Italy a lot. I wonder if their stuff really is ethical.
@n.s.9156
@n.s.9156 2 жыл бұрын
Had no idea about Italy and the brand Rachel… So disappointing.
@rachelcookie321
@rachelcookie321 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a brand just called Rachel?
@AKumar528
@AKumar528 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it's not ethical. This and most such documentaries will skip over the real culprits - the capitalism system of the West
@Marsalien100
@Marsalien100 2 жыл бұрын
Italian clothes literally cost THOUSANDS of dollars so if you're right about the sweatshops it truly disgusts me.
@rachelcookie321
@rachelcookie321 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marsalien100 you know not all clothes from Italy cost thousands right? The really expensive ones are usually hand made by a small team of high skilled workers, you wouldn’t see them being made in a sweatshop.
@hhydar883
@hhydar883 2 жыл бұрын
Every single high end brand from clothing to makeup to elecronics to cars to sports stuff rely on cheap labor and for that they have to look into some of the poorest parts of the world and open a factory there. If we really think the working conditions are going to be good there then we are just fooling ourselves.
@colleenferguson9237
@colleenferguson9237 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I purchase 95% of my clothing second hand!!!!!
@AmyC37217
@AmyC37217 2 жыл бұрын
Still means someone else made them in a sweatshop.
@madscientist1823
@madscientist1823 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmyC37217 yes but it's not feeding that system.
@mikeaskme3530
@mikeaskme3530 2 жыл бұрын
@Colleen Ferguson, that is a fine option for most women, but have you ever looked at clothing for men at second hand shops, its really hard, men tend to not take care of their clothing.
@brandontuckett767
@brandontuckett767 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you realize that most things we buy in our daily lives are made like this.
@itiswhatitis_842
@itiswhatitis_842 2 жыл бұрын
Vote with your money people! If you don’t want this to continue, don’t buy from these shops.
@aayonce4
@aayonce4 2 жыл бұрын
Period
@seleneledezma3543
@seleneledezma3543 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, buying ethical made clothes would be better. But, living in a small budget doesn't allow you to do that. Some people can hardly afford Walmart and old navy prices. It's just incredible sad that doing the right thing has become a privilege all in it itself.
@TheBizzle1984
@TheBizzle1984 2 жыл бұрын
Devaluing workers and labour has hurt the entire world. It's bad for the economy, the environment, and people's mental health. It's heartbreaking.
@VivianArthurs
@VivianArthurs 2 жыл бұрын
this makes me wonder though, what if only the lower class and actually poor bought "unethically" these groups only shop for clothes about once a year. Most times, people who buy from unethical sources buy hundreds of dollars worth, multiple times a year. these groups of people therefore seem to be able to spend hundreds on clothes. really makes you think
@WS-zs1ss
@WS-zs1ss 2 жыл бұрын
Recently I was in a homeless shelter . I brought almost new jacket . What I saw was a mountain of cloth . If someone lacks money can get it for free or go to second hand stores . I'm talking about the USA . I have no knowledge how is it in other countries...
@WS-zs1ss
@WS-zs1ss 2 жыл бұрын
@@VivianArthurs I have to admit I'm guilty of it but ...I woke up . I stopped shopping and now minimalising on everything .
@a.mckenzie1940
@a.mckenzie1940 2 жыл бұрын
The way I've worked with shopping ethically while having a very low budget is by shopping second hand. It doesn't create more demand for the products themselves and at least reuses garments for the sake of environmental impact. It's not ideal but it's how I try to do my part
@dorikienitz8650
@dorikienitz8650 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been purposely looking at labels and not buying from certain countries for a long time. Marketplace, thanks for reporting this… Makes us think more about where our clothes are made and who,how and what conditions they are made . Buy local and support small businesses.
@GM-jv9jz
@GM-jv9jz 2 жыл бұрын
Local and small businesses also source their stuff from overseas. Thats not a solution.
@downhomesunset
@downhomesunset 2 жыл бұрын
@@GM-jv9jz some do. Don’t lump everything together
@firebreathingrubberducky5621
@firebreathingrubberducky5621 2 жыл бұрын
Local business owners also seek to maximize profits by lowering costs.
@TheBizzle1984
@TheBizzle1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@downhomesunset Most don't have a choice, almost nothing is manufactured in North America at this point. It's not a judgment, just a fact. Even things that claim to be "made in Canada" are made from foreign textiles, whose factories have the same issues. The problem is incredibly far reaching and pervasive.
@naturegirl2110
@naturegirl2110 2 жыл бұрын
@@GM-jv9jz I have a small business. Find me the pieces and parts of any business aka raw materials that are made in the US. I'll wait
@lauraw3338
@lauraw3338 2 жыл бұрын
Pennington barely has anything less than $100. It’s an over priced store.
@freedomlife3623
@freedomlife3623 2 жыл бұрын
Never shopped there as their design and material are not attractive at all.
@rhaven50
@rhaven50 2 жыл бұрын
Material is so thin
@rhaven50
@rhaven50 2 жыл бұрын
Actually many of the clothes are flattering. I've bought lots of nice clothes there.
@Pulpswo
@Pulpswo 2 жыл бұрын
I never heard of these stores before.
@GM-jv9jz
@GM-jv9jz 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Pendelton?
@ReviewBoard-uy5nv
@ReviewBoard-uy5nv 2 жыл бұрын
American news could learn from Canadian Journalism. So sick of political posturing.
@Fogest
@Fogest 2 жыл бұрын
If this was done in America they would have mentioned 5 times why this is Trumps fault or gave 5 reasons why Biden caused this. It would have to tie into political parties in some way 😂.
@peterpietrzak1253
@peterpietrzak1253 2 жыл бұрын
There all crazy in the states over there?
@earthsteward9
@earthsteward9 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder about clothes sold on Wish, Amazon, or Alibaba
@SweetUniverse
@SweetUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
What about Old Navy?
@cheryl-lynnmehring8606
@cheryl-lynnmehring8606 2 жыл бұрын
Wish, Shein, all those Instagram brands! Yes I wonder.
@luckylee5026
@luckylee5026 2 жыл бұрын
Same, most of them come from China/N.Korea.
@hmacklemore2226
@hmacklemore2226 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweetUniverse Old Navy and other stores have the leverage to pressure factories to change because they spend so much. All the big stores pressured Bangladesh to change its building code after the deaths there a few years ago, for example.
@theocho8689
@theocho8689 2 жыл бұрын
You wonder about Alibaba, are you kidding. They're probably the worst and I wouldn't even entertain buying anything from that company.
@MarcusDaGrand
@MarcusDaGrand 2 жыл бұрын
This has been going on forever. The question is: Are people willing to pay more for their clothes?
@BenLA5
@BenLA5 2 жыл бұрын
lol pants from adidas cost $70 minimum to $130. The REAL question is: are companies willing to pay workers more? Apple is worth 2 trillion, would it so bad if they were only worth 1 trillion?
@BenLA5
@BenLA5 2 жыл бұрын
Also fast fashion clothes are too expensive as they are toxic and only last 3 weeks. Even stuff that cost $200 can be low quality. Maybe the real question is: are brands willing to make safe, quality goods where everyone gets paid fairly?
@judyives1832
@judyives1832 2 жыл бұрын
If a pair of jeans costs 30 dollars to make in an ethical way, and we are paying 100 dollars for a pair, then those companies are already making a huge profit! They don’t need to gouge their workers and make even more. They need to take less profit and pay their workers. They don’t even need to raise prices. Are these companies even paying taxes on these profits? Why is our government allowing an unethical industry with a long history of abuses, to police itself?
@simonac4811
@simonac4811 2 жыл бұрын
No...we can go to the basics.. and make it
@carlam4986
@carlam4986 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenLA5 Companies won't give up maximum profits until people force them to, by refusing to buy products not made in Canada.
@tetianakolpak1310
@tetianakolpak1310 2 жыл бұрын
The change will take place when humanity will pay fair price for labour. We all guilty to have our clothes packed with garments made by hostage workers which we throw away regularly to buy more. The change starts inside of our closets and our mentality. Fair pay for labour will make our closets lean and to the point. Another issue in Canada is that on minimum pay of $14.25 how can you pay for fairly priced garments. How politicians can decide that $14.25 is meeting the basics of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs?
@TheBizzle1984
@TheBizzle1984 2 жыл бұрын
Another big issue is almost nothing is even manufactured in North America anymore. I try to buy Canadian made clothing, and there's basically 2 places to choose from, and it's astronomically expensive. Tbf, it does last longer, but not long enough to justify its usually 4-8x higher price point. There would need to be major subsidies (or higher tariffs on imported goods) to bring textile manufacturing back to North America. Fast fashion is so bad for the environment, so I hope it does change soon, but you're right, the living wage in Ontario is over $22, so $14.25 an hour is definitely going to keep people in poverty, and stop them from affording Canadian made clothing or other goods. Devaluing labour hurts the entire world.
@PumpernickelCoconut
@PumpernickelCoconut 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@saliciousable
@saliciousable 2 жыл бұрын
More heartbreakingly top-notch investigative work. Thank you CBC and Marketplace!
@luciboras
@luciboras 2 жыл бұрын
Profit is the only concern for the "unethical companies " owners
@didubo508
@didubo508 2 жыл бұрын
I have a limited budget so I can’t really afford to buy from more ethical brands so I have turned to buying second hand from thrift stores. It takes more time to look through to find things you like but I have managed to find many hidden treasures for cheap👍
@johndixon4337
@johndixon4337 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that fewer than 1 in 200 shipping containers are opened for inspection at Canadian ports? Odds are pretty good for the smugglers. If you only have to forfeit one in 200 shipments, you can do a damn good business!
@abbyflows1332
@abbyflows1332 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s terrible
@Megabean
@Megabean 2 жыл бұрын
You know how many containers a container ship holds? The standard is around 20,0000. Say it takes 25 minutes to inspect each container, that would be 8333 man hours. Say the average port worker makes 20$ an hour that would be about $166,660 per ship. Who's going to pay for that? Not the merchants, not companies that make the products. You will. oh and good luck getting your presents before Christmas that's not going to fix the massive backlog we have at almost every port. People are so dull
@rhaven50
@rhaven50 2 жыл бұрын
That's how some children are smuggled
@ronfirek5824
@ronfirek5824 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhaven50 How sad. Many BLESSINGS to all
@susantunbridge4612
@susantunbridge4612 2 жыл бұрын
Canada is fast becoming a sh** country.
@johdo9953
@johdo9953 2 жыл бұрын
If Canada starts banning some of these brands/ shops, and Canadians found that they are paying a much higher prices than the U.S, they will simply go south of the border to shop for clothes. People tend to look for bargains, especially with inflations while wages stay the same.
@elizalee1214
@elizalee1214 2 жыл бұрын
I think this program is paid by US companies.
@hmacklemore2226
@hmacklemore2226 2 жыл бұрын
Most people can't afford to buy "ethically" but it helps a lot to buy things made of natural fibers (cotton/linen) that will last for years. I've had Zara wool sweaters for 10+ years
@turbulentmk
@turbulentmk 2 жыл бұрын
Ethical clothing can be made and be affordable, but the shareholders will not see the profits they expect.
@wioi
@wioi 2 жыл бұрын
Zara produces in these factorys as well tho
@hmacklemore2226
@hmacklemore2226 2 жыл бұрын
@@wioi It's extremely hard to find a company that doesn't produce clothing overseas where workers make pennies. I'm saying at least buy clothing that will last so you don't have to go out and buy more.
@patriciacarlyle9456
@patriciacarlyle9456 2 жыл бұрын
@@hmacklemore2226 and shopping at 2nd hand markets to slow the demand for newly manufactured clothing
@aprilapril2
@aprilapril2 2 жыл бұрын
We shouldn’t be buying affordable clothes… we should be paying what clothes are worth. We got rid of our uk factories …to exploit cheap labour abroad. Fast fashion is wrong
@AmyC37217
@AmyC37217 2 жыл бұрын
Stitches, Inc. used to have a factory in my hometown: Red Boiling Springs Tennessee. They didn't want to pay a fair wage in the early 1990s so they closed up their shop and displaced about 500 workers. How are they still in business?
@carmenlajoie2719
@carmenlajoie2719 2 жыл бұрын
Not all manufacturing went to 🇨🇳, a lot went to the US private prison system.
@tresbeans
@tresbeans 2 жыл бұрын
Even Microsoft uses prison labour. Pretty obvious reason why the incarceration rate is so high
@akenjah
@akenjah 2 жыл бұрын
The clothes inmates make aren’t designer clothes. Those prisoners are getting paid to make clothes, cook, clean and whatnot.
@Theloversconjure
@Theloversconjure 2 жыл бұрын
The laws here in the states mandate that a company thoroughly vet their vendors. I worked in manufacturing - we not only had full oversight on all of our facilities overseas, we had compliance employees in every country who worked with EHS or make sure employees were paid and treated like human beings. Ultimately this responsibility falls on the company who’s selling the products because they’re the ones making the big profits. Part of their budget should include this type of program.
@ajayjobanbhatti
@ajayjobanbhatti 2 жыл бұрын
I swear I love marketplace
@titusmccarthy
@titusmccarthy 2 жыл бұрын
@kathleens7131
@kathleens7131 2 жыл бұрын
The US consumer does not get cheap clothing, how much are the companies raising the markup 1000 -2000 percent and maybe more.
@Secretzstolen
@Secretzstolen 2 жыл бұрын
Lol just take a look at shein, fashion nova, missguided, h&m - these are just *some* fast fashion brands that sell clothes cheaply to the US & are popular with Americans. They are a part of the problem.
@kathleens7131
@kathleens7131 2 жыл бұрын
@Luther Blissett Is your friend using these resources to get his clothing? Walmart, Target....etc.
@faithm9284
@faithm9284 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! Real reporting. And they are not afraid to jump the line. Love it, keep going. From the U.S.!
@Neoscarface6342
@Neoscarface6342 2 жыл бұрын
Love this series, probably some of the most informative investigative journalism
@ronfirek5824
@ronfirek5824 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a story on peoples disability low payment and those in need. It is inhuman in a civilized country And no one is doing ANYTHING about it. People should not be treated this way! SINCERELY Victoria Laidlaw Nov6/217■●■
@gelb.8705
@gelb.8705 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good documentary, let's put ourselves in someone else's shoes
@tresbeans
@tresbeans 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the point they're trying to say, but I find it kind of annoying that people find out about the shady dealings behind their clothes and it ends there... Our quality of life is directly on the backs of the poor and people would rather stay ignorant... Companies who claim ethical sourcing don't have a lot of accountability either.
@vengefulspirit99
@vengefulspirit99 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's about the bottom line
@snowmiaow
@snowmiaow 2 жыл бұрын
We have Fair Trade food that is well documented but there is no Fair Trade clothes that l know of.
@hurtmanp5803
@hurtmanp5803 2 жыл бұрын
Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV. Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
@vengefulspirit99
@vengefulspirit99 2 жыл бұрын
@@snowmiaow Even fair trade stuff is iffy at best. Our supply chains are too complex to really know for sure.
@snowmiaow
@snowmiaow 2 жыл бұрын
@@vengefulspirit99 You can't know for sure about any of that really, but there is a good and established system for fair trade.
@Nina-hr5dk
@Nina-hr5dk 2 жыл бұрын
I remember how my Grandmother told me how she used to work at such places. She graduated from middle school and started working at a young age. She told me she would sew parts of clothes and each piece would give her a yen or two. I felt so sad when I once heard it and I just really hope that in the near future this treatment of workers in the clothes industry will improve.
@gileneo6999
@gileneo6999 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy American Apparel is also Canadian brand that used to be operated sweatshop in LA
@macar8011
@macar8011 2 жыл бұрын
ALDO too...
@Idontgothatway
@Idontgothatway 2 жыл бұрын
There’s way too much unnecessary stuff being made.
@tgtgtgtgtgtgtg
@tgtgtgtgtgtgtg 2 жыл бұрын
Phones every year because we all “need” 8k cameras in our pockets SMH.
@justchillaxing1190
@justchillaxing1190 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in one of those places making warm wool sports coats for Lauren and others. Maybe it costs $1-$3 to make something and the company sells it for 20-40 times the cost. Definitely unjust. Working as a assembly line with limited bathroom breaks. The conditions unbearable and 90 degrees inside at summer where you are dripping sweating all your shift and 5 16oz waters are not enough for 8 hours. Then many people passed out unconscious and had to be taken out in a wheelchair. Definitely not a good environment. Non citizens were paid cents per piece so when there wasn’t work they weren’t paid and when there were they had to work until exhaustion just to get by.
@marwankhan4294
@marwankhan4294 2 жыл бұрын
It's not like this makes a difference in any way shape or form. This is how multi national companies have operated and will continue to operate long into the future.
@cyborgrat
@cyborgrat 2 жыл бұрын
That's true but if some consumers know who not to go buy from it can help push the companies to do better.
@snowmiaow
@snowmiaow 2 жыл бұрын
It was well known for decades that expensive clothes are made in sweat shops. Then we discovered the Chinese.
@jacqueline4749
@jacqueline4749 2 жыл бұрын
My friends make clothing IN Canada. It is more expensive...but it's ok. For me I wear my clothes for years. I'm not into Fast Fashion. It's really bad for the planet too. If you buy a sweater from Primark it's rubbish after a few months. Then you THINK you're recycling it ...meanwhile it ends up in some river in India. They have a great documentary on that also. I started buying second hand here in glasgow. Especially classic items. I rarely buy clothes.
@tanyawieczorek6603
@tanyawieczorek6603 2 жыл бұрын
Do your friends sell their clothing on Etsy?
@jacqueline4749
@jacqueline4749 2 жыл бұрын
@@tanyawieczorek6603 no she has a store in Ottawa.. it's called Stacey Martin Lifestyle
@tanyawieczorek6603
@tanyawieczorek6603 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacqueline4749 oh, ok. I have no car to get there with. Too bad she doesn't sell on Etsy, it's a niche market for people to buy local and ethically
@jacqueline4749
@jacqueline4749 2 жыл бұрын
@@tanyawieczorek6603 ah! You could maybe try her online shop. I ordered "The Signature" off her website and she shipped it to Scotland. Maybe go to the website. I wear her Signature piece when I travel. It's really comfortable but I still look complete and dressed.
@BrandonCiCi
@BrandonCiCi 2 жыл бұрын
Virgilda, thank you for all your sacrifices, hard work, and dedication to making others aware of the issue so a change could happen. Also, congrats on your case, you deserve it!
@mtgibbs
@mtgibbs 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully, we have a company here in Chicago, Dearborn Denim, that makes nice, reasonably priced jeans and shirts locally and ethically. There are others out there, too. And remember, it's not just the garment itself. The fabric may also come from places that aren't so great.
@PumpernickelCoconut
@PumpernickelCoconut 2 жыл бұрын
Ty for listing the brand.
@bennyboo4068
@bennyboo4068 2 жыл бұрын
It's ironic how they talk about human rights, when they don't even afford that to their own citizens anymore.
@speedfastman
@speedfastman 2 жыл бұрын
lol wdym
@jerrynadler2883
@jerrynadler2883 2 жыл бұрын
oh hey guys did you hear Reitman's has a 'policy', everyhting will be ok now
@junchen6945
@junchen6945 2 жыл бұрын
CBC Marketplace is the greatest show in Canada!
@trevorhebert5297
@trevorhebert5297 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of these big name brands are made in sweatshops..... like joe fresh etc.. and as long as these big companies can keep doing it , they will........as long as they are making lots of money from it.
@bigdmontreal
@bigdmontreal 2 жыл бұрын
And they wouldn’t make anything if you didn’t buy it. These companies survive by your hard earned money.
@KatesAccount
@KatesAccount 2 жыл бұрын
id love to see a marketplace episode about canadian cannabis and how/where some of the products are really grown.
@betsybetsy4716
@betsybetsy4716 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering about the garments sold at Loblaws and Walmart, that are " imports"
@cherylsibson2529
@cherylsibson2529 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandmother would take a design that I would make, sew it, and I'd wear it. I was grateful for my grandmother's talent. Yet, that's a different time, and I don't sew. I asked a local sewer to help sew a dresses she wanted to charge 3 grand then you have to find somewhere to sell it and market it. Not as easy as it looks to do.
@crunchie2851
@crunchie2851 2 жыл бұрын
Clothing has become such a big problem from creation in Asia to disposal in West Africa and the oceans. Recycle ♻️ stained clothing is how 1 can help just a little.
@april8978
@april8978 2 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the video they said the workers were from North Korea. And the workers probably don’t get any of the money, that means it probably goes to their government. That’s not good.
@abdulrahmanraheem423
@abdulrahmanraheem423 2 жыл бұрын
Well if this is a problem with Chinese clothes then we need to look into golf equipment too!
@ronfirek5824
@ronfirek5824 2 жыл бұрын
Sad but I have seen people run to golf course just to be part of the clan and pay big $ just to be popular! More sad than ever! Sincerely Victoria Laidlaw
@Chahlie
@Chahlie 2 жыл бұрын
Something Canadians need to know is to check the CA identification number, which is on every label. It is very enlightening. Lots of things are made under license, most notably to me is Laura Ashley- made by Winners under license, and that was verified by me directly from Laura Ashley. Just because the label says something, does not mean that designer actually made it. I am actually disgusted with Laura Ashley that they do this, as well as with Winners. That store is full of stuff like this.
@Maple-Sizzurp
@Maple-Sizzurp 2 жыл бұрын
This is correct, fashion houses license their brand name
@jane-annarmstrong295
@jane-annarmstrong295 2 жыл бұрын
It’s on a sweater I just bought at winners it’s 89th Madison label
@lisamarielund6292
@lisamarielund6292 2 жыл бұрын
I walked through Kohl’s yesterday to make an Amazon return. I looked at the women’s clothing and it was so hideous and very shoddily and cheaply with horrible rayon and cheap polyester fabrics.
@Chahlie
@Chahlie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and it seems no matter the price point of the store, the clothes are all shoddy workmanship and ghastly fabrics. I sew but am also having trouble finding quality fabric. I buy a lot from thrift stores and tailor them to fit. I have a 20 plus year old shift dress from LLBean in a wool gabardine which will last me forever but they don't even make things like that any more, sadly.
@lisamarielund6292
@lisamarielund6292 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chahlie I LOVE thrift stores!
@jenniferbond7073
@jenniferbond7073 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisamarielund6292 I do too! What can be done about the thrift store smell, I’ve tried a few things and haven’t been successful.
@lisamarielund6292
@lisamarielund6292 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferbond7073 I just machine wash with a lot of Tide and those scented laundry crystal thingies. Forgot their name. Then I machine dry using scented dryer sheets. I couldn’t get a strong perfume sent out of a tunic I bought, even after I had washed it twice so I ended up having to toss it out.
@tanyawieczorek6603
@tanyawieczorek6603 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferbond7073 borax or baking soda
@neophantomyt1435
@neophantomyt1435 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really sad. But even if a few people stop buying from those stores. It doesn’t change the fact that the poor workers are still in those sweat shops.
@christinefournier685
@christinefournier685 2 жыл бұрын
We always hear about the clothes but what about the fabric. When an item of clothing is made in an ethical shop, was the fabric also made in an ethical shop ?
@Scott2122232425
@Scott2122232425 2 жыл бұрын
Well, penningtons and Reitmans will see some losses.
@ellienorxrigby
@ellienorxrigby 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for reporting this!! It made an impact on me. I hope to see change soon and less people suffer.
@yuanliang2950
@yuanliang2950 2 жыл бұрын
It is the same idea of using cheaper labor to produce coffee beans in poor countries. People are greedy; they want everything cheaper, making manufacturers try their best to find any possible cheap labor around the world to exploit them and produce customer happy price products.
@michaelmunoz107
@michaelmunoz107 2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Santiago High School in Corona, California. We love your show and watch it every day and discuss the stories.
@slydawwg
@slydawwg 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, however unlikely. Although being that it's CBC, & that California has lost its way in the last few decades. Maybe you do listen to the Socialist Government Broadcaster of Canada, CBC
@AwokenEntertainment
@AwokenEntertainment Жыл бұрын
as much as their conditions need to improve, they aren't being forced to work there..
@Mark-xg3zn
@Mark-xg3zn Жыл бұрын
Thats not entirely true. Most of these workers are slaves of consequence. If you were from a third world country you would know this. I am. And I work in the apparel industry. So I know.
@adobo6905
@adobo6905 Жыл бұрын
In North America, The only people considered not to be slave workers are the ones that collect welfare money from the government.
@geo1555
@geo1555 2 жыл бұрын
This why I don’t shop mainstream fashion. For these exact reasons, next time your wearing a brand name just understand there’s a lot of shady activity behind it..
@mujkocka
@mujkocka 2 жыл бұрын
My mother used to do this. It’s tough. We should be outraged.
@SouthernBelleReviews
@SouthernBelleReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Forced labor! I do believe people that buy cheap things at places like Dollar Tree in the US are still buying things that are made in prisons and by forced labor.
@endgamefond
@endgamefond 2 жыл бұрын
I really feel the pain of those undepaid workers. Been there. When you got paid that wasn't being said in the contract. It hurt my feelings so hard because it's like someone stabbed you.
@JaneDentonGaming
@JaneDentonGaming 2 жыл бұрын
YM: 20:26 We've responded and we'll leave it at that... Canadian shoppers: We've responded by not shopping at any of your stores.. and we'll leave it at that.
@rusodevelopment
@rusodevelopment 2 жыл бұрын
What's a terrible response. I wonder if her kids work in those factories. There needs to be enforcement not just regulations
@TehKitteh01
@TehKitteh01 2 жыл бұрын
I shop at a few of the stores that carry their brands. Well, I did. Now that I know what's happening, they won't get another cent from me.
@honeybdream
@honeybdream 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the clothing documentary: The True Cost 📺 💲 💰🌟
@dragonswordstriker
@dragonswordstriker 2 жыл бұрын
I don't blame them for still selling the products even though they no longer buy from them. It's not like the factory is going to take it back and what do you expect someone to do with already paid for goods- just throw it out?
@sparra3819
@sparra3819 2 жыл бұрын
The update I heard, by radio, is Reitmans has located all garments made in this factory, still in their stores and has donated them to charity.
@trevordoeseverything219
@trevordoeseverything219 2 жыл бұрын
I live for these marketplace videos. Tbh it’s the only reason I am subscribed!
@jukio02
@jukio02 2 жыл бұрын
The US literally does the same thing with their prisoners. They pay them little to nothing for work.
@williamc1156
@williamc1156 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, 100%. And We also exploit mexican worker
@sharkeishatwerks1731
@sharkeishatwerks1731 2 жыл бұрын
They get free housing. They'll be ok
@danskdna8550
@danskdna8550 2 жыл бұрын
We pay taxes for the food, shelter and clothing for people who broke laws. They can at least do something to benefit society as a result.
@jbaby007
@jbaby007 2 жыл бұрын
So what is to come from this report? Are people going to boycott purchasing from these stores? I'm sure some of these people care that their products are being made by factory workers who get paid pennies but I doubt most will think twice and not buy from their favorite stores. This doesn't stop these factories from operating.
@cayk9444
@cayk9444 2 жыл бұрын
It’s up to us what becomes of this documentary
@TehKitteh01
@TehKitteh01 2 жыл бұрын
​@@cayk9444 Exactly. I have chosen to stop shopping at these stores after seeing this. May not seem like a lot, but I have spent hundreds in these stores in just the last year alone. Now, if a couple hundred, or hopefully thousands of people follow suit, their losses will become apparent very quickly.
@alyssabird720
@alyssabird720 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I ONLY shop at thrift stores! It's so sad :(
@sandragibbs5667
@sandragibbs5667 2 жыл бұрын
We need a website that we can check before we buy anything.
@ChillRichard
@ChillRichard 9 ай бұрын
The fact that companies want to act like “hey we had no knowledge” as if they didn’t realize just how cheap their product was getting made. You might ranges of prices, but the prices were so low that those companies decided to turn a blind eye, cause it doesn’t take a genius to figure out why it was so cheap
@davidpower1843
@davidpower1843 2 жыл бұрын
Marketplace is so fire 🔥 It would be nice if the stations here in the US would stop bickering about politics for 5 minutes and do something useful like CBC!
@dn9507
@dn9507 2 жыл бұрын
How about doing a surprise visit to the Spadina garment shops? Are you sure they are getting paid with minimum wage, etc.? Dirty laundry could be much closer to home.
@yvetteparker
@yvetteparker 2 жыл бұрын
Love this feature! Keep up the great reporting.
@deeproff1294
@deeproff1294 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for another great investigation.
@sloanealltree8436
@sloanealltree8436 2 жыл бұрын
This was sooo good, we need a follow up!! I went to school for fashion design at GBC and learning about all the discrepancies and how if you wanted to do it ethically made it that much more unlikely of your brand succeeding, made me not want to pursue a career in fashion.
@sandrarosales8604
@sandrarosales8604 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Mexico, and when I moved to USA immediately knew that it would be impossible to compete with the prices at the store, only one piece of clothes takes several hours to make, and you also spend money on the material! It's very discouraging to pursue your passion for fashion, when you encounter this situation.
@Orion100
@Orion100 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this investigative reporting. Continuing to bring to public these kinds of issues is the start of change. More stories creates more outrage. People have power with knowledge and vote with their wallets. Thanks for telling the truth.
@AiraCamille
@AiraCamille 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks CBC for a good coverage of this matter.
@AnneBeamish
@AnneBeamish 2 жыл бұрын
So now it's a factory that sews for Pennington... they all use places like this. Outsourcing is a menace. How can we petition Canada to stop these shipments from entering the country?
@zanderw1199
@zanderw1199 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder their stuff doesn't last. My girlfriend bought bras from them and they didn't hold up after 3 months
@AhmedKamal-jc8xq
@AhmedKamal-jc8xq 2 жыл бұрын
The cameraman at 15:35 dipped out when she started talking about COVID
@ofeliamendoza5303
@ofeliamendoza5303 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they investigate into the retailers that are producing safe and sustainable clothing so, that we have an idea of who to buy from. But, instead we have been left out here in the dark, not knowing what to do or where to shop.🤔🤷🏻‍♀️
@naturegirl2110
@naturegirl2110 2 жыл бұрын
Got to etsy but check the location of the seller. Some pf them are even on KZfaq so you can see them actually make the items
@markreynolds9135
@markreynolds9135 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing this I have decided to stop wearing clothes in public. If you see me, I simply ask that you don’t point and laugh. 😂
@rajjie100
@rajjie100 2 жыл бұрын
YM , what a surprise . I have not shopped there since the 80's
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