FBI seizes stolen artifacts and thousands of bones from Indiana home

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5 жыл бұрын

A 91-year-old Indiana man loved to show off his global collection of ancient artifacts. Then the FBI raided his home, seizing thousands of illegally obtained items and also discovering thousands of human bones. CBS News correspondent Anna Werner has followed this story for months and joins CBSN with the stunning details.
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@unclebs74
@unclebs74 5 жыл бұрын
Just remember, if you dig in the ground as a private citizen you've commited a crime, but if you're the government and do it you're an "archaeologist" and perfectly legal.
@avdkmusic
@avdkmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Nope just need proper permits and $$$ to do it
@drjohnnynoire
@drjohnnynoire 5 жыл бұрын
You can dig all you like on your own property as long as you don't violate building codes. You need permission to dig on other peoples property. If you find a graveyard on your property you are supposed to leave it be. If you want to dig it up for some reason (building a pool or something) then the government may require a cultural resources assessment and have professionals remove the remains from your property, and do research to determine who they were. That's where archaeologists come in. There is no law against digging on your land or collecting arrowheads and such. Robbing graves and storing human remains in your house however, is illegal.
@Oxol33
@Oxol33 5 жыл бұрын
Archeologists ask permission, and don't disturb graves unless necessary. If they do, they rebury the bodies once they're done.
@boarder6246
@boarder6246 5 жыл бұрын
John, in the US you need a materials right. The minerals on certain properties can be taken by government instilled corporate interests.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 5 жыл бұрын
Alex R done doing what?
@beachbum6781
@beachbum6781 5 жыл бұрын
So the smithsonian can DiSPOSE of skeletons by admittingly throwing thousands of them in the ocean, and it's okay.
@keepmoving1185
@keepmoving1185 5 жыл бұрын
BeachBum proof or you are a troll
@marshalljulie3676
@marshalljulie3676 3 жыл бұрын
@@keepmoving1185 proof that you are easily fooled by rich white people. What he said is true
@lonewolftech
@lonewolftech 2 жыл бұрын
@@marshalljulie3676 what does skin pigmentation have to do with anything you racism filth?
@andrewcross8244
@andrewcross8244 Жыл бұрын
Yep. When we hunt it’s looting. When they do it, it’s called excavation
@MrMasterFlash
@MrMasterFlash 4 ай бұрын
@@marshalljulie3676link to a reputable source? Or a I supposed to believe some random anonymous person like yourself because you say so?
@silentseeker1
@silentseeker1 5 жыл бұрын
What was it that the FBI took from his home that they are not willing to discuss? Curious minds want to know.
@Spideera
@Spideera 5 жыл бұрын
hmm good question.. duh duh duuuuuh hehehe wonder if they'll do a follow up or if the story ends here.
@mshavisham8964
@mshavisham8964 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they NEVER get around to that except for "the bones." What else did he illegally come to possess? (which SO MANY PEOPLE DO)
@shxpsixcreative4318
@shxpsixcreative4318 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever they wanted.
@DeadRedLipBombshellHutto
@DeadRedLipBombshellHutto 5 жыл бұрын
SOUNDS LIKE BONES OF THE NEPHILIMS.THEY WANT TO RESURRECT THEM.
@danknee
@danknee 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the alien bones he dug up
@xenos_n.
@xenos_n. 5 жыл бұрын
The dude who had all this stuff sounds like he'd be super awesome to hang out with.
@miapdx503
@miapdx503 5 жыл бұрын
If you like racist ghouls...
@xenos_n.
@xenos_n. 5 жыл бұрын
@@miapdx503 Racist? Where'd you get that from? A ghoul, though, most likely.
@brennanshane146
@brennanshane146 2 жыл бұрын
@@miapdx503 Oh, shut it
@baxoutthebox5682
@baxoutthebox5682 5 ай бұрын
@@xenos_n. it was laid out clearly why it’s been culturally acceptable to treat indigenous people’s graves like a child’s sandbox. It’s racism, plain and simple. Perhaps a product of naivety and cultural norms of the time, but racism nonetheless.
@sashamoore9691
@sashamoore9691 22 күн бұрын
@@baxoutthebox5682no it’s not
@zachlennon2948
@zachlennon2948 5 жыл бұрын
This guy travelled all over the world collected, historical artifacts, and fought nazis. So in other words he's Indiana Jones.
@11O100
@11O100 5 жыл бұрын
It sucks that he died, I suspect you could ask him anything about the artifacts in his possession and he could tell you when, what, and where he got it.
@dylansyra9182
@dylansyra9182 2 жыл бұрын
Just did a oof inspection on the neighbor the Cameron's. He told me all about Don so i came here. He told me a lot about your mom. Very interesting guy
@Brassblitz
@Brassblitz Жыл бұрын
Could he tell you the date of the layer he pulled it out of? Could he tell you if it was a burial or a trash heap? What else was it found with? What was the orientation? What was the exact location? No. When you remove an artifact you DESTROY the CONTEXT of the find. You erase it's history. Who made it? How did they use it? When? Now all we know is "George dug it up somewhere on one of his trips"
@FacesintheStoneShorts
@FacesintheStoneShorts 10 ай бұрын
Hilarious. Look at my avatar, they hide the art of the indigenous Americans, because we live in a conquered country. Learning the art will allow you to become more aware of the situation that you were in. The country has only been in existence for a few hundred years. You have no idea of your history, that we mixed with other hominoids. It’s a Christian country. I steal every single one of my artifacts.
@grannybanjo4605
@grannybanjo4605 8 ай бұрын
Most people can tell the difference between a burial and a midden.
@CadetBoneSpurs
@CadetBoneSpurs 8 ай бұрын
Yeah he could tell you where he ILLEGALLY dig the stuff up…stop making excuses for criminals
@SunraeSkatimunggr
@SunraeSkatimunggr 5 жыл бұрын
Many universities have native American bones and they are not talking about those. I worked in the "bone room" or Oregon State University in 2010 sorting and logging bones for "repatriation" back to any tribe that can be identified, and/or claimed.
@kentneumann5209
@kentneumann5209 9 ай бұрын
Going by records of where they were taken from? And if no records, was it possible to go by DNA to place them with their tribes of origin?
@SunraeSkatimunggr
@SunraeSkatimunggr 9 ай бұрын
@@kentneumann5209 While I was there (2009-2011), there was no DNA testing for the repatriation. Many of the tribes didn't want them back for various reasons.
@salvagemonster3612
@salvagemonster3612 6 ай бұрын
We live and we die. Bones are bones.
@MrMasterFlash
@MrMasterFlash 4 ай бұрын
It definitely happened, and it's no secret. But the other universities are going through the same process yours was at the time. It's a huge job. when the universities collected them, they viewed things different, and were wrong, but they were doing it for academic purposes .
@jamesgilmore731
@jamesgilmore731 5 жыл бұрын
At 2:57, there's a professor of Anthropology "brought in by the FBI." Talk about letting the coyote into the henhouse! She speaks of cultural 'racism,' in that the artifacts are not 'white.' How does she characterize the TENS OF THOUSANDS of indigenous skeletal remains in various anthropological and ethnological museum collections (especially Ivy League universities) across North America? How is that okay???
@nox7282
@nox7282 Жыл бұрын
It’s only okay if the government can make money off of it. She left that part out
@jensenjames3874
@jensenjames3874 Жыл бұрын
This lady lives on vodka, white wine and antipsychotics.
@dales6301
@dales6301 9 ай бұрын
It's not OK, but that doesn't excuse this raider either.
@tomboard1
@tomboard1 8 ай бұрын
Graves have been robbed as long as humans have buried their dead. But racism occupies every corner of these people's world.
@reneesmokey5847
@reneesmokey5847 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell SMITHSONIAN to return OUR 12,000 items!!!! GreatBasinNv
@knowledgewillincrease7508
@knowledgewillincrease7508 5 жыл бұрын
and all the Giant Human Bones they stole and hid away
@damaspiderqueen
@damaspiderqueen 5 жыл бұрын
@@knowledgewillincrease7508 I was going to say the same. They are Native Americans as well.
@MichaelS-vy1ku
@MichaelS-vy1ku 5 жыл бұрын
they're not yours anymore. May as well demand poland give back prussia to germany or california to mexico
@henrylivingstone2800
@henrylivingstone2800 4 жыл бұрын
Michael S That’s a stupid argument, ancestral bones and ever-changing borders are completely different comparisons.
@straycatsean
@straycatsean 5 жыл бұрын
Not one mention of the value, the real reason the FBI wanted these artifacts. It's about money not dead bones.
@will0ughby
@will0ughby 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anon0nline the "rightful owners" are dead and gone. The governments in power throughout the americas have nothing to do with the cultures the artifacts came from.
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because archaeologists know what they are doing and when they go on digs it’s meticulous (or at least it should be) and when untrained people do it they can lose the history and the story of humanity once it’s gone we lose it forever
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
The us government isn’t that desperate for money yet lol
@TheDesertwalker
@TheDesertwalker Жыл бұрын
It is about Federal Law and trying to keep artifacts in-situ...as That's a lot, says below.
@MrMasterFlash
@MrMasterFlash 4 ай бұрын
You are so wrong. It's not about money at all. It's about enforcing the law, and it's about treating native Americans with respect. Think about the great expensive the government is going thought trying to get these remains and artifact back to where they belong. Thousands of man hours over years and years. Even if some of this stuff ends up in the collection at the Smithsonian, they don't even charge admission!
@michaela2757
@michaela2757 8 ай бұрын
This man was a Curator of Museum, thou private. And I would guess storing the remains from view was out of respect. He had passion for what he did, pretty remarkable person.
@nikkim7012
@nikkim7012 5 жыл бұрын
Our justice system never ceases to ablaze me...
@funguy246
@funguy246 5 жыл бұрын
It’s funny they Agent says “ these people need to be treated with dignity & respect.” Maybe they should try that hard with the living native Americans. Apparently once dead, their human rights return.
@khem127
@khem127 5 жыл бұрын
True!!!!
@Tripp74
@Tripp74 2 жыл бұрын
Native Americans are from Asia. He means American Indians (so called African Americans)
@Micolash_is_behind_you
@Micolash_is_behind_you 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tripp74 LOL wut
@Tripp74
@Tripp74 2 жыл бұрын
@@Micolash_is_behind_you look it up. The people called native Americans are actually from Siberia, next to Russia
@Micolash_is_behind_you
@Micolash_is_behind_you 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tripp74 LOL everyone learned that in school, what is amazing is that you think he meant African Americans
@Patriot1777
@Patriot1777 3 жыл бұрын
FBI should raid museums then, they dug without permission years ago also.
@baconheaven111
@baconheaven111 5 жыл бұрын
"FBI's most important mission" Give me a break
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
He meant regarding that case lol not the entirety of the FBI
@laurajuranek4415
@laurajuranek4415 5 жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel bad for the old guy. At least the things that he had were taken care of.
@Crmsnraider
@Crmsnraider 5 жыл бұрын
Meh, he seems not to have been particularly miffed about the seizures; for a lifetime he was digging up artifacts in locations he knew he shouldn't be...let alone 500 or so human remains. ...Think we'd all be alright not going to jail and giving things back in our old age with the situation of being found out. Let alone not doing that BS in the first place. His obsession took em' to a dark place of extremes.
@uberkloden
@uberkloden 10 ай бұрын
A grave robber. Their of human remains.
@wirelessone2986
@wirelessone2986 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't illegal to plunder great Lake shipwrecks until 1981. And even take the human remains. Weird but true
@evanscreekbrahman7511
@evanscreekbrahman7511 7 ай бұрын
Things were SO different back in the day... This cat was basically Indiana Jones in the Temple of the Politically Correct.
@roadkillavenger1325
@roadkillavenger1325 7 ай бұрын
​@uberkloden Stop being so self-righteous. You're by NO MEANS an innocent person. Let everyone know about your secrets. Either do that, or shut the hell up
@GVanArsdale
@GVanArsdale 8 ай бұрын
Does anyone know a good documentary or podcast about this man and his story? He is utterly fascinating! My biggest fear is that most of his artifacts will disappear and never be recorded or remembered.
@swaxTV
@swaxTV 6 ай бұрын
Yup
@timeye7684
@timeye7684 6 ай бұрын
I was cutting wood on his family farm when this went down
@KcGunn369
@KcGunn369 8 сағат бұрын
​@@timeye7684if he knew they were coming , I wonder if he hid any "very important" artifacts in a storage space somewhere... I have many friends who knew him... Would do anything to have met him.
@Tr1Hard777
@Tr1Hard777 2 жыл бұрын
Want to know something. The neighborhood i live in had HUNDREDS of mounds in the late 1800s and the people flattened them to make houses.
@barbh1
@barbh1 5 жыл бұрын
There are so many artifacts and paintings in museums in the world that belong in other countries. Is the FBI trying to get them back from the Louvre and the British Museum, for example? There are two Egyptian mummies up the street from me in the Lowe Anthro Museum - are they going back home any time soon? I don't get this story.
@losaikogogreen3636
@losaikogogreen3636 5 жыл бұрын
This is sad. When you are buried or scattered your wishes and culture should be followed. If I were buried 1,000 years ago I would expect to have my wishes honored. This is wrong.
@shxpsixcreative4318
@shxpsixcreative4318 5 жыл бұрын
You would expect to be kept an eye on for a thousand years after your death? LOLOL okay...
@losaikogogreen3636
@losaikogogreen3636 5 жыл бұрын
@@shxpsixcreative4318 I plan on being creamated. The Earth is running out of rooms for bodies. Many do expected their wishes to be honored, not sold as artifacts or quaucked at in a museum. Though the kings, pharaohs, and others are still helping their people, just not as they planned.
@SAINT-NICK
@SAINT-NICK 7 ай бұрын
That man probably lived an amazingly adventurous life, so interesting
@SkyHeaven9
@SkyHeaven9 5 жыл бұрын
He did a good job.. being a collector. He is amazing.
@janinecarson8380
@janinecarson8380 5 жыл бұрын
No. He participated in robbing graves, either in person, or by purchasing from looters. Nothing good about it. People who buy illegally looted artifacts encourage the destruction of Native American burial sites.
@SkyHeaven9
@SkyHeaven9 5 жыл бұрын
@@janinecarson8380 good thing he have it all in one place, other looters and digger either sell it or hid it elsewhere. If the artifacts scattered it's not easy to find it back.
@janinecarson8380
@janinecarson8380 5 жыл бұрын
@@SkyHeaven9 You don't get it -- without collectors like him driving the market, the looting would not take place.
@marlinashaw983
@marlinashaw983 2 жыл бұрын
@@janinecarson8380 Archaeologists steal and have private collections also. What is the difference?
@leviholiday5644
@leviholiday5644 Жыл бұрын
@@marlinashaw983 he never said that they didn’t, he destroyed Native American burial sites, to obtain that collection the government isn’t in the right, neither is he, he is a grave robber. That is getting praise for destroying burial sites, would I be in the the right if I took a shovel to a grave to get rings and other things that were important to that person, they are dead I know but desecrating the grave of someone that once lived, breathed had things that were important to them, had tough times is wrong. I’ve seen ancient sites destroyed from looters, just to collect things it is disgusting.
@dwalker399
@dwalker399 5 жыл бұрын
Call me weird. But I for one would of loved to see this collection. I spied some very curious items there. But now it's disappeared,gone,locked away from public view. Was this man formally charged with committing a crime? If so. What was the charge or charges? Did it go to trial?
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
They will probably be put into museums they are sending them back to the countries of origin which basically means it will go to a government museum
@uncledodad
@uncledodad Жыл бұрын
They will skim from the top and do whatever they want with the rest.They went after him because he was old.Had he been younger he would have lawyered up and won a lot of money in the courts if he could prove his case.I suspect they didn’t charge him because the kids probably would have filed lawsuits.I suspect they knew about him for a long time especially if he was known for giving tours of his collections.Word travels fast.
@nox7282
@nox7282 Жыл бұрын
@@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 They will be put in museum storerooms where the vast majority of the public will never be able see them. Then sold legally when the museum needs money
@frankmill5172
@frankmill5172 5 жыл бұрын
Indiana Bones: and The Basement of The Stolen Skulls
@minuteman2012
@minuteman2012 5 жыл бұрын
It's rumored that the scull and bones fraternity has jeronimos scull...
@mshavisham8964
@mshavisham8964 5 жыл бұрын
That was really funny!!
@kooljoetriple0g911
@kooljoetriple0g911 5 жыл бұрын
That was great!
@baddie1shoe
@baddie1shoe 5 жыл бұрын
Clever!!
@mandarkastronomonov2962
@mandarkastronomonov2962 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@brianrichards7006
@brianrichards7006 5 жыл бұрын
So it's a horrible crime for a private person to collect/dig up artifacts and bones from ancient cultures, but perfectly OK if a foreign government or one of our institutions does the same. I can understand the desire for knowledge and archaeological excavations, but at least some of the objects which I saw in the video (the so called ancient Chinese jades) were modern reproductions and most of the items readily available on Ebay or through ancient art dealers, and legally available. I know of many instances of "looting" by local people in SE Asis just recently. There are numerous burial grounds with valuable ancient beads and copper alloy castings witch have been continuously looted over the past 50 years in many parts of the Mekong delta....not to mention locals looting Mayan tombs in Mexico and Guatemala on a regular basis, etc, etc..... I guess the FBI doesn't have enough important crimes to work on.
@theharlequin7280
@theharlequin7280 5 жыл бұрын
3:10 annoys me a quite a bit since she completely waters down and missuses the term racism. The circumstance of historical relevancy to items and bones is the key here, not the skin color of the people whose graves have been defiled.
@BaronFeydRautha
@BaronFeydRautha 5 жыл бұрын
Right, if anything it was a perverse reverence for that culture. That woman was trying to sensationalize the situation. O bet she's a feminist ta boot.
@chipie1002
@chipie1002 5 жыл бұрын
Well said!!
@bncoolc
@bncoolc 5 жыл бұрын
Your perspective is interesting on how the term racism is being misused and I can imagine why anyone would be annoyed. Artifacts are relevant to ALL humans that some feel compelled to raid ancient graves to acquire them. I guess the guy was not interested in digging up modern-day graves and other older grave because he would not find artifacts that had history and value for display. I guess he went to Europe and dug up some artifacts there that he deemed had equal value just as he did in other places in the world they perhaps did not show the Viking, medieval artifacts and Confederate/plantation bones too. He felt that the graves and the artifacts were being wasted when they could be displayed so others may learn how "humans" lived. You never understand people why they complain and point out stuff that does not specifically affect or matter to others. Have yourself a historically relevant and racist free experience.
@christianjscott
@christianjscott 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed she annoyed me
@robpolaris5002
@robpolaris5002 5 жыл бұрын
She knows millennials are trained to never question an accusation of racism. They must react as strongly as possible or be accused of racism themselves.
@Mgeigs
@Mgeigs Жыл бұрын
They don’t mention that the bones were ..bone tools. Nothing like digging up a human skeleton or anything like that. They try to twist the story to make the guy sound like Jeffrey Dahmer.
@uberkloden
@uberkloden 10 ай бұрын
An utter lie, he looted grave sites, took funeral items, human bones. Do you justify as they were Native American?
@jessies6502
@jessies6502 8 ай бұрын
They specifically said 2000 HUMAN bones, representing 500 individual PEOPLE. Those weren't bone tools, bone tools would have been animal bones, deer, bison, elk, moose.
@twotone87200288
@twotone87200288 5 жыл бұрын
how in tf did she tie this situation to racism??
@user-up5xg9cs6t
@user-up5xg9cs6t 6 ай бұрын
Native Americans and most people around the world, illegal aliens; with the exception of those white racists of Anglo Saxon decent, Veterans, and taxpayers; are protected species, entitled to, housing, heathcare benefits, reparations, flights to the city of their choice, etc...etc...after they cross the Rio Grande. Sooo...that should make everything clearer.
@MST4773
@MST4773 5 жыл бұрын
"Racism"??????? You've got to be kidding me...
@djschims
@djschims 5 жыл бұрын
Ha, I was thinking the same thing.
@minuteman2012
@minuteman2012 5 жыл бұрын
A liberal for sure...
@3.9inches17
@3.9inches17 5 жыл бұрын
Lol at whites denying racism.
@khem127
@khem127 5 жыл бұрын
@@3.9inches17 #whitefragility I understand though, the word "racism", while it seems innocuous, brings up all the historical barbarity that their people practiced on others, and they'd rather pretend it didn't and is not still happening.
@shxpsixcreative4318
@shxpsixcreative4318 5 жыл бұрын
@khem127 do you think white grave sites haven't been disturbed? Lol Aww that sounds more like fragility to me....
@captloki13
@captloki13 5 жыл бұрын
Stolen artifacts and bones found from Indiana Indiana Jones 5 confirmed!
@paulj541
@paulj541 5 жыл бұрын
The FBI was completely taken aback when they met a man that actually worked and was productive. (unlike them)
@johnsradios484
@johnsradios484 Жыл бұрын
He had human bones! You ok with that?
@TheDesertwalker
@TheDesertwalker Жыл бұрын
You have been watching too much right-wing-crazy media.
@user-up5xg9cs6t
@user-up5xg9cs6t 6 ай бұрын
​@@johnsradios484; The Smithsonian has bones (as do museums around the world); why does the FBI choose to harrass a 91 year old man, but provide cover for the "president" whose drug addled son travels the world, at taxpayer expense, selling political influence, generating millions of dollars that is laundered in offshore banks, then distributed to Biden family accounts, and to Joe, through checks written out as re-payment for bogus loans? Maybe the reason is that 91 year old men are easy targets; even easier when they are deceased.
@squirmulationstation9194
@squirmulationstation9194 5 жыл бұрын
He might of found something he shouldn't have found.
@indridcold5700
@indridcold5700 Жыл бұрын
Parts of hidden history.
@butchcassidy3373
@butchcassidy3373 6 ай бұрын
Yeah you can bet on that. The federal government is just a mafia with the laws in their favor.
@demonorse
@demonorse 5 жыл бұрын
Never trust a missionary
@aphropicthehiphopsnob
@aphropicthehiphopsnob 5 жыл бұрын
We gotta get this on a damn tshirt STAT!
@demonorse
@demonorse 5 жыл бұрын
@@aphrodittee3790 Haiti has a history of looking out for itself.
@OutSideTheBoxFormat
@OutSideTheBoxFormat 5 жыл бұрын
@@aphrodittee3790 Poor guy was in Haiti. Must of been miserable.
@stellablevins1447
@stellablevins1447 5 жыл бұрын
They profess to be good people!!! In reality Not So
@blacksola2136
@blacksola2136 5 жыл бұрын
FACTS..!!!!!!!
@TA.387
@TA.387 8 ай бұрын
If that’s not OK, you should go to every museum in the country. They have lots of human bones.
@timouellette4693
@timouellette4693 11 ай бұрын
This man was absolutely brilliant, I'll bet.
@jessefillmore
@jessefillmore 5 жыл бұрын
I was told the British bought a lot of artifacts from the US in the 1900's . I was told Serpent Mound here in Ohio has been dug up and everything extracted and sold to England . I also know a guy who is said to have received stolen artifacts in his basement . They were stolen from a burial site here in Southern Ohio . He keeps them in his basement in a display case covered up with a table cloth .
@boeufprairieartifacts9814
@boeufprairieartifacts9814 3 жыл бұрын
Digging in Indian mounds was a pass time in the 17 and 1800s and wasn’t illegal at the time. Many artifacts have been taken
@budc.8172
@budc.8172 5 жыл бұрын
No difference between him and large museums like the Smithsonian. He seemed to be showing the artifacts and remains he had with respect and dignity. Until we hold corporate museums accountable I don't see any reason to hold this man accountable.
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
No lol archaeologists know what three are doing when random people do excavations without archaeologists we can lose the history of humanity
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
And the Smithsonian isn’t a corporation lol
@budc.8172
@budc.8172 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 You should learn to read. Those were two separate statements. At no time did I say the Smithsonian was a corporation.
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
@@budc.8172you say that like a period makes it clear you weren’t talking about the Smithsonian any more lol
@bobknull7502
@bobknull7502 8 ай бұрын
The contrast between the way they handled this and the way they handled Standing Rock is stark.
@normallyscott563
@normallyscott563 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a country and just getting a shippment of your own artifacts out of nowhere, "Wow, didn't even know these were stolen! Welp, they're out of the ground now and in good condition, time to stick 'em in a museum"
@themadplotter
@themadplotter 5 жыл бұрын
Bones aren't humans. That womans fringe gave me bilious.
@stone1andonly
@stone1andonly 5 жыл бұрын
By any chance did they happen to find a crate about four feet tall, three feet wide and about 8-10 feet long?
@greaseaddiktz3217
@greaseaddiktz3217 2 жыл бұрын
He died because the government accused him and raided his privacy rip to this man
@TheDesertwalker
@TheDesertwalker Жыл бұрын
HE WAS 90 Friking years old! Gimme a break.
@grannybanjo4605
@grannybanjo4605 8 ай бұрын
They didn't "raid" him. Just like they didn't "raid' Trump. The authorities contacted this man, and he AGREED to let them come.
@CadetBoneSpurs
@CadetBoneSpurs 8 ай бұрын
He was a fvking criminal…cope harder
@pennymink5706
@pennymink5706 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad he lived long enough too share
@Juiczey
@Juiczey 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how haunted his home was.
@Nickname_42
@Nickname_42 5 жыл бұрын
Go there and find out.
@junejunejuniejune
@junejunejuniejune 5 жыл бұрын
Right!?! I was thinking "how cursed this man must be having the remains of 500 Native Americans!"
@Nickname_42
@Nickname_42 5 жыл бұрын
@@junejunejuniejune Maybe they became friends, bones are just Calcium there is no life or spirit left - but it is pretty weird to collect bones, I mean why, think he is scared to face his maker in the mirror.
@Verbally.autistic
@Verbally.autistic 5 жыл бұрын
@I was born a poor black child nothing but calcium
@alexrivera4020
@alexrivera4020 5 жыл бұрын
I love how they defend him for grave robbing.
@TiWavy
@TiWavy 5 жыл бұрын
Facts they qent out there way
@TiWavy
@TiWavy 5 жыл бұрын
@Jack Hartzell name the many il wait?
@blengravers
@blengravers 5 жыл бұрын
@Jack Hartzell Please give evidence or shut up.
@PatchsOhulahan
@PatchsOhulahan 5 жыл бұрын
3:20 WTF lady are you really going there. It’s history, it’s interesting.
@BH-tp6hf
@BH-tp6hf 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody’s always snitching
@kevinengstrand141
@kevinengstrand141 5 жыл бұрын
How is it possible any of this is illegal. If the artifacts aren't stolen what's the problem. If he was on legal expeditions I see nothing wrong. It seems to be worth a lot of money and the government wants it. Also could contain too much information that the government doesn't want people to know.
@lf4061
@lf4061 5 ай бұрын
The FBI rep said the guy admitted that he had bought some of it illegally on the black market. He bought illegally retrieved or stolen items which is illegal and criminal. Also, on legal expeditions with government permits, everything discovered is still property of the government of the country found with archeologists gaining credit and scientific tests, photos, recordings only unless that government gives them written permission to “borrow” certain items for a stated period for specified museums or universities. The workers or guests are not legally permitted to just carry off what ever they want. Everything found has to be precisely photographed (or drawn in earlier digs) and catalogued and reported to the government of country of origin or its designated agency/organization.
@kentneumann5209
@kentneumann5209 Жыл бұрын
I think some of the fascination with the native artifacts is that so much of that history has been ignored and out right intentionally erased that its steeped in mystery. Its a hidden history of the land and finding evidence of it is like finding a lost treasure. It is treasure. Artifacts are quite valuable. Its a culture so far removed from the way things are now, that its mystical, even magical.
@onenite2nite
@onenite2nite 5 жыл бұрын
Wow no jail time or fines..must be nice.
@jeaniebird999
@jeaniebird999 5 жыл бұрын
Must be white...
@TiWavy
@TiWavy 5 жыл бұрын
How many normal ppl u know collect human remains
@vasteve81
@vasteve81 5 жыл бұрын
onenite2nite he died a year later. I suspect his age and health helped him. And honestly, most of the artifacts were likely collected decades ago, past the statue of limitations. The FBI would have had to have proven when the items were taken. So by voluntarily handing over the artifacts, he saved the government millions in investigating this, and then having to try what few crimes they could in court, to lock a 91 year old man up for a year. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@jonmacdonald5345
@jonmacdonald5345 5 жыл бұрын
jeaniebird must be Racist!
@TiWavy
@TiWavy 5 жыл бұрын
@@vasteve81 they did it to cosby exept this guy had human bones. Not normal
@roccogentilella2134
@roccogentilella2134 2 жыл бұрын
i think the effort that they put into this is ten times more than they put into helping living native americans
@jesseg9088
@jesseg9088 5 жыл бұрын
Wahoo. FBI nails 91 year old guy for just to many fossils. The old guy had nothing you wouldn't see in ANY museum. Now I can sleep so much better and safer. WTF. 😂😂😂😂
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because archaeologists know what they are doing and when they go on digs it’s meticulous (or at least it should be) and when untrained people do it they can lose the history and the story of humanity once it’s gone we lose it forever
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
The pieces were part of history we may not have and we may lose parts of that history now
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
The man faced no charges I’m pretty sure also they said he cooperated and knew they were coming
@evillyn7895
@evillyn7895 5 жыл бұрын
I flinched each time Anna Warner mispronounced Iriquio.
@KeeganVera
@KeeganVera 5 жыл бұрын
So the FBI stole it from him!! WTF!!
@johnchathas1957
@johnchathas1957 3 жыл бұрын
Dont you dare collect rare items. It's our job to explain history. Says daddy government
@ethanstevenson8236
@ethanstevenson8236 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@fall190
@fall190 5 жыл бұрын
looks like they just wanted to rob him, bet they made a fortune selling the stuff
@samnorris3649
@samnorris3649 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, you'd think his house would be cursed/haunted to the max.
@sammiller552
@sammiller552 5 жыл бұрын
3:20 Racism???? he did this because of racism??? lol lmao
@richiephillips1541
@richiephillips1541 8 ай бұрын
Civil War General Dan Sickles put his own leg bones in a museum and visited the museum to see his bones.
@gregwindell7702
@gregwindell7702 8 ай бұрын
BE STRONG ENOUGH TO BE HONEST AND KIND
@climaxbonfire7221
@climaxbonfire7221 5 жыл бұрын
Finders, keepers! But seriously the bones are a bit of an issue
@daytoncoke790
@daytoncoke790 5 жыл бұрын
Wait! The raid happened then the man died in 2015, and we are just shown a news piece now?
@redblanket647
@redblanket647 2 жыл бұрын
So why is our road covered with paleo artifacts we are still finding them on our road These developers dug up a ancient burial ground and paved the road . We're still gathering bones and tools all the pottery is missing
@SaraPooBC
@SaraPooBC 5 жыл бұрын
to me he was conserving history not destroying it ! was he right or wrong have no idea only that if he had not collected this would all be lost to time
@Tr1Hard777
@Tr1Hard777 2 жыл бұрын
When i find an artifact i think of it as me preserving history and trying to understand the culture that chose that particular spot to live and why. It should be encouraged to collect stone artifacts.
@kentneumann5209
@kentneumann5209 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there were the bones of any giants in those remains of 500 people? If there were any, I'm sure they were removed first, and probably destroyed.
@westho7314
@westho7314 9 ай бұрын
keep filling your tiny skull cavity with such conspiracy drivel, Being 5'1" with an acute case of having that "little man complex" must make everyone around you seem like a giant.
@davidcrain4047
@davidcrain4047 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see how racism plays into this.
@markmadlock8185
@markmadlock8185 5 жыл бұрын
that's not surprising. she explained it tho. I guess Satan is hard of hearing too
@kelseyamanda2400
@kelseyamanda2400 2 жыл бұрын
The fbi hasn’t talked to the bro on tik tok with a room of human spines lol
@lexnuss791
@lexnuss791 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't Daddy Bush dig up the head of Geronimo?
@anthonylagunas3881
@anthonylagunas3881 5 жыл бұрын
No Geronimo is buried on Ft. Sill, OK.
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 5 жыл бұрын
The phrase "you can't take it with you" comes to mind. Graverobbing, the 3rd oldest profession???
@RabidArtists
@RabidArtists 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the last word in the title for this video was "Jones", not "home"... was about to be like "Hey! Leave Indy's stuff alone!"
@maggiemae7749
@maggiemae7749 5 жыл бұрын
Skull and Bones has Geronimo's skull
@disqusmacabre6246
@disqusmacabre6246 5 жыл бұрын
"It's treating them like they are nt people..." Oh, fer crying out loud. They are bones. Just bones. They are not alive. They are from himans but they are definitely not people. The people who once used them are all dead and have no further use for them. I hope that once I'm done using my bones that people are as passionate about defending my belief system. This can be summarized as follows: 1. For as long as I am actively using them, my bone exclusive belong to me. No one shpuld attempt to remove any of my bones without first obtaining my explicit permission. 2. Once I have reached my expiration date and taken the 838 fast train to Dekay City, I release all claim to these bones. For the record, these bones are not, on any sense of the word, sacred. Littles pieces of my soul are not trapped like prisoners of war within the calcium superstructures. They are dead. The bones are simply decaying, a naturel prpcess that returns my residuals to the planet. I'm not coming back and the bones are of no further use to me. Further, these bones are NOT resting. The bones are not alive and consequently, they have no need of rest nor do they require a church-approved "final resting place" - any old place above, on, or below the ground will do just fine. . 3. I do hereby indemnify and hold neither financially nor cultural liable, anyone who obtains my bones using any method, for any purpose. Such persons are free to modify or destroy my bones as they see fit. Under no circumstance will anyone be srrested and charged with a crime for simply possessing my bones? My bones my be collected, displayed, stored, sold, raffled, smashed, thrown away, smashed without holding anyone who does so criminally or financially liable. 4. Under no circumstances, shall ownership of my bones be held exclusively by the church or the state. I do affirm and certify that the statements above represent my deepest and most cherished beliefs regarding the disposition of my bones once I have no further use for them.
@LilMissDubya
@LilMissDubya 2 жыл бұрын
Right! like if someone gets my bones, its like "ok cool dont care, its calcium & other elements, what am i gonna do? Haunt you? 🤣🤣🤣" i get the religion of it but they act like that burial is where your soul lays, then how ancestors supposed to be an eagle,bear, or a fish? Just saying 🤣
@farmwife7944
@farmwife7944 2 жыл бұрын
cool that you give permission but my ancestors were not asked, nor were any of us descendants. Keep in mind that burials of loved ones are carefully considered by many cultures/tribes and tied to spiritual beliefs. Respect is needed. Consider if you will that a loved one dies, maybe a child or women in labor, and heartbroken you picks a spot for rest that helps the loved one cross over, maybe out in nature or in a family or tribal place of rest which may be considered sacred. Years, centuries forward, people dig up these remains and pull them from sacred burial sites. It may mean nothing to you but it is disrespectful and disturbs the rest of our beloved ancestors and ours. Donate your remains to science, that is your choice, but leave our ancestors to rest in peace, in respect and long deserved.
@jacquezxyz
@jacquezxyz 5 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones's grand-kid is horrible
@forexed8948
@forexed8948 5 ай бұрын
at least the old man acknowledged he had made mistakes and was willing to give back to make up for it.
@malcolmadams2105
@malcolmadams2105 5 жыл бұрын
They came and got his Giants!"* Ps Sacajawea was my seventh great grandmother. Proud to be an American
@damnsurfer522
@damnsurfer522 5 жыл бұрын
You had me till you threw racisim into it.
@marmar929
@marmar929 5 жыл бұрын
Triggered, huh?
@damnsurfer522
@damnsurfer522 5 жыл бұрын
@@marmar929 nope, don't get too moved by claims without evidence.
@PeerlessYT
@PeerlessYT 5 жыл бұрын
@@marmar929 what for?
@TheHPMP
@TheHPMP 5 жыл бұрын
Yea. CBS should have not aired that part of video. Seems like they are promoting false claims without evidence. This woman definitely didn't know hes motives, why did he dig them up and kept these bones? Maybe he was fascinated? or maybe he liked the idea of something rare and old? Whatever the reasons he collected human bones, racist reason is the most unlikely explanation. She seems to be very shortsighted. CBS should be more careful who they interview.
@Zombie_Scholar
@Zombie_Scholar 5 жыл бұрын
This piece is so well done! Honestly, this was much more exhaustive and thorough then I expected a news segment like this to be. I got answers to questions I didn't even have, and all the ones I did.
@frankroberts9320
@frankroberts9320 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, too bad they recorded it at the airport though.
@danmarcell3167
@danmarcell3167 5 ай бұрын
When the man collected these things it wasn't illegal and now they want to drag him through the dirt because it's illegal now
@wezzy9437
@wezzy9437 5 жыл бұрын
So am I the only one curious about that hammer that looked like something Thor might use?
@scretching08
@scretching08 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, a real Indiana Jones!
@naterog2057
@naterog2057 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh that woman really said it was racism
@williamharbaugh3202
@williamharbaugh3202 7 ай бұрын
Instead of child trafficking, this is what we focus on???
@pennymink5706
@pennymink5706 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 5 жыл бұрын
So now the Smithsonian has it all!
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
The stuff all goes back to the country of origin for native Americans it goes to the tribe they get sent to museums around the world the us doesn’t just keep them lol
@stormworks4882
@stormworks4882 5 жыл бұрын
racism? how is an interest in another culture racism
@lbjsaid200years6
@lbjsaid200years6 5 жыл бұрын
Because American culture is backwards and embarrassing.
@kentneumann5209
@kentneumann5209 Жыл бұрын
The old guy lived to age 91. So much for curses and bad hoodoo and all that.
@westho7314
@westho7314 9 ай бұрын
Probably haunted him for most of his adult years, then reality finally sank in and filled his cranial cavity with guilt.
@janetkerkorian9746
@janetkerkorian9746 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a story!
@toonceshere9668
@toonceshere9668 5 жыл бұрын
Why would this man collect human remains and hide them in his basement for decades? That's insane.
@newton2013
@newton2013 5 жыл бұрын
Archeologists.
@dianebrady6784
@dianebrady6784 5 жыл бұрын
So...with that said....never go to a history museum. The mummy on display will get you.
@toonceshere9668
@toonceshere9668 5 жыл бұрын
newton2013 He's not an archeologist. He isn't studying the bones, writing about them, lecturing at archaeological symposiums. He was hoarding the bones in his basement for decades...for his own selfish pleasure.
@leeveler7729
@leeveler7729 5 жыл бұрын
The Smithsonian
@toonceshere9668
@toonceshere9668 5 жыл бұрын
grimmsterification A human bone hoarder isn't an archaeologist. And most people who own art don't claim to be museums.
@MariaMartinez-gv2xy
@MariaMartinez-gv2xy 5 жыл бұрын
Despicable acts! 😡😡😡😢😢
@markmadlock8185
@markmadlock8185 5 жыл бұрын
American as apple pie
@mywhorled
@mywhorled 5 жыл бұрын
And the Spaniards conquering the Aztecs was an act of humanitarianism, right?
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 5 жыл бұрын
What about displaying mummies in Egypt.
@mywhorled
@mywhorled 5 жыл бұрын
@John Marston Maria Martinez might find it relevant as it would be her ancestors despicable acts. Relativism.
@SecurityAllStar
@SecurityAllStar 8 ай бұрын
We are all very tired of being lied to.
@redblanket647
@redblanket647 2 жыл бұрын
Over 100 artifacts have been gathered since last week after the discovery in eastern new mexico.The fire starters over 30 of those .Its a village worth of paleo artifacts
@nickwancho
@nickwancho 5 жыл бұрын
racism. really??? more like curiosiry
@flashfire8701
@flashfire8701 5 жыл бұрын
He should have been able to keep them. How stupid.
@catdooley4616
@catdooley4616 5 жыл бұрын
I hope if someone digs up my bones after I am dead, I hope it is someone that is poor and needs to feed their family.
@linneab8317
@linneab8317 6 ай бұрын
I think he reconciled the seizure realizing his family may not have shared his passion for antiquities and artifacts. I'm glad he cooperated. A 90 year old man didn’t need incarceration.
@joshuaoha
@joshuaoha 5 жыл бұрын
Good reporting CBS. Thank you for spending some time on this and explaining to the viewer why if it wouldn't be ok to go around digging up the cemeteries where my European ancestors are buried, it isn't ok to do that to Native American burial grounds. As a student of anthropology I appreciate how you handled this.
@glane3962
@glane3962 3 жыл бұрын
many ancient cemetery’s in Europe have been looted for burial goods from many cultures. That woman claiming racism is about as stupid as you can get. Obviously no ancient white graves in North America.
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s important to realize these are thousands of years old I agree what he did was wrong but when archaeologists do it I don’t think it is they dig up ancient burial sites all over the world the bog bodies in the UK and Ancient Greek and Roman burial sites are no different
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
The native Americans have been persecuted and their culture destroyed don’t get me wrong but burial site excavation happens across the globe
@simballa660
@simballa660 6 ай бұрын
So if you find a arrowhead in a plowed field on your property can you keep it?
@theewisestforever7861
@theewisestforever7861 5 жыл бұрын
I was sooooo interested in this .. really amazing story .. sad but amazing
@stevesarvis5464
@stevesarvis5464 8 ай бұрын
When the Government wants something of yours ,they will find a way to retrieve it from you. By law or no law.or just because.
@GDSavingThePast
@GDSavingThePast 3 жыл бұрын
I don't condone the robbing of graves but isn't that exactly what archeologists have done for centuries and placed the remains in museums. I guess that is OK.
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 2 жыл бұрын
When archaeologists do it they are preserving the history of humanity when a random person goes digging all over they lose the history and the stories that could have been unraveled from the site
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