Settle down, Francis.

In crimeafornia? They’ll get a bad yelp review, that’s about it

I doubt that since they don't arrest anymore crims, they're getting away with all kinds of evil.

For each loan…

Why? It’s pushed by your lord Biden

Definitely worse than that. This is fraud and people should go to jail for it.

They’re not even businesses. They are plain old Scams!

Particularly Mosaic. They really go after everyone in multiple states.

Eaxtly!

I agree. I got my panels around march/april '22 and the sales rep gave me an estimate using the sq ft of my house, google map/aerial pic of my roof. His estimate was slightly higher than the actual cost. So i got it and they installed it. Cost me around $24K and with tax credit it ended up costing $13K with 1.58%APR.

Yep. If they ask for the SS #, that should be the end of the conversation.

I'm guessing that if anyone questions that, they just say something like, _"We have to run your credit in order to see what services you qualify for."_

Yeah, there's definitely a portion of culpability on this lady. These "scams" always have a task or action by the "victim" that showcases they did something stupid lacking common sense

THANK YOU! How can anyone be that stupid? Can't help but wonder if she was making any of that up....

@@PatrickBaptistWhat? No. Where is the product she financed, if you are correct?

@@EngageYourFrontalLobe I dunno, but sometimes people get into an agreement and the one party takes the money and doesn't render their end of the agreement. The buyer needs to be diligent and read what they are agreeing to so when they are not getting what they paid for they can take the seller to court, IF they cannot handle the realities of life then they need a court appointed person to supervise them and have to have someone else make their decisions for them. Ive spent a long time in customer service listing to irate people that won't read the terms and conditions they agree to, or swear/promise. Just saying they need to read what they sign, when they don't I don't have it in me to feel sorry for them since they had no care to read the terms, people have to learn one way or another, IF they would then these scams could not go on.

​@PatrickBaptist she is an elderly lady. She's not stupid she just got taken advantage. It happens to elderly people all of the time. I'm sure you wouldn't call your parents stupid if they get taken advantage of.

I would

The AG isn’t going to prosecute. He’s too busy trying to find ways to let Trump destroy America.

No worries, the solar companies are green energy and bribe the local politicians and courts well. She have to pay full price for getting nothing. Welcome to Dem paradise!

Yeah right. It's CALIFORNIA. Need I say more?

@@beentheredonethat814 lol! That is like letting the fox inspect the chicken house by himself.

@@tomodonovan5931 not really. state level judicial attention is often used to keep companies in line

Amen!

Agreed

Window company came repeatedly to my door pestering me. I called their company and said the next one will be invited in and you’ll need to notify next of kin due to a home invasion and I feared for my life.

I had a door to door guy come and tell me I had to take something from the government he was required to deliver by law. I asked who it was for. He said he didn't know. Just somebody who lived at this address. I think it was a phone. He said it was a safety device. I locked the security door and talked through it, refusing to sign. I said, "Leave it on the porch rail, then". He said, "No. You have to sign for it." I got my boyfriend to come get a gander so he could identify him, too. Eye witness. I told the guy to get the expletive out of my yard and that if he ever came back I'd be sure to have an answer for him. I had Christian memorabilia on my porch and he said it was nice, to shame me for being mean. I said, "You bet I'm a Christian, but you are a scammer. Don't come back." I called police. They came and I told them about the guy. They went to look for him to ask him some questions.

Once my mom call pest control to fumigate around her house while I was there. The worker asked me to sign that he had completed the job. I refused because on it it said we agreed for future annual fumigations. He tried to pass it off as completion of a job instead of contract for future work without ending date. Imagine how many families fell for it and they'll used the "it was here in the document you signed".

@@MmmhMarkyThanks for sharing that.

Exception: If a _stranger_ shows up selling _Thin Mints,_ there's a really good chance I'm buying their entire supply!

Nah. Everyone top to bottom. They know exactly what's going on.

If it's DIGITAL it's FAKE... if it ain't on REAL PAPER, witnessed or notarized then it's ALL FAKE

U can see the hand writing is identical to brian deckers on that page. Clearly forged by him, or the person writing both of their names.

Electronic signatures that don't use an actual signature done with a stylus or something should be illegal

@@Distress. There is such a thing as a digital signature that works, but DocuSign doesn't use it or anything like it.

It’s okay Scottsdale pd gives out fake duis she can afford it

They don't knock. They call you.

@@Praisethesunson don't answer the phone, pretty simple

@@8188jlpc Spoken like someone who is never called for anything but scams

Nah they should go behind bars , these are criminals

Nothing will happen

@@Kenny49ERS probably you are right, as long as they keep paying those fines..

@@andresv8856 correct 👍

@Kenny49ERS I mean CA does this with criminals as long as they get the bail 💰 🤑

No worries, the solar companies are green energy and bribe the local politicians and courts well. She have to pay full price for getting nothing. Welcome to Dem paradise!

I wonder if they even have the nerve to put it is on their tax return that penalties and fines qualified as tax deduction/write-off.

Of course, they will just blame it on a sales rep who, conveniently, is no longer with the company.

Which is of course why they will be able to write it off. The claim is the sales rep committed fraud to get his commission.

I’m just shaking my head. I can’t believe these people are that uneducated to be polite.

It’s ridiculous that such a number has so much power. You have to give your SS# out in some situations so I don’t blame them for making that kind of mistake

Scammer companies can get your SS number quite easily

I would have gotten in my car and followed him out of the neighborhood to make sure he didn't scam my neighbors.

If you got a written document to that you might have been able to hold his company to it.

Add Sunnova to that list, too!

No worries, the solar companies are green energy and bribe the local politicians and courts well. She have to pay full price for getting nothing. Welcome to Dem paradise!

Sunrun!!!! Yep, i am going to DOE to report them. The forced me into solar panels when the original owner was suppposed to pay off the balance before transfer of deed.

We have a sign on our door that reads “solicitations will be charged $50 for our time loss” they walk away immediately

Nothing good comes from sales call at the door or from a phone call to you.

God forbid you pay a little up front to cover materials. And where did you think the materials would be stored exactly.. a floating island above your property??? You sound like a nightmare.

I know hospitals that do the same thing with a digital signature pad while you can't see the screen with the terms and conditions of payment. The hospital admissions person will only read an abridged version of the terms and conditions.

​@@davidfaustino4476 That's not what they said. They said the contractor ILLEGALLY signed a contract on the client's behalf, something so wildly illegal I cannot even begin to explain it to you, and used that illegally signed contract as justification for an illegal 25% deposit and using their back yard to store materials which were not used in the project.

Solar farms are great for reducing demand on powerplants during heatwaves but the panels that go on houses are kind of a scam.

Solar isn't a scam, scammers just peddle them... Like used car dealers some being scams, some not.

me too. In the 70's.

Government money in the form of tax payer subsidies helped that along. Free money !!!! Just find a way to scam it.

It isn’t a solar farm. It’s a solar installation or industry. No farming involved. And no trees or animals either.

Yep, I bet an audit of the IP addresses used to sign won’t match the IP addresses of the customer devices. Fraud, these salesmen need to go to jail.

On DocuSign, it's not a captured copy of your signature, but just your name printed with a font that resembles cursive.

cop told me to put up a no soliciting sign because of the scammer that came by.

Supreme Court ruled legal

@Anthony-dj4nd...the problem is being able to identify who's a "legit company" in an industry as new as solar energy / panel biz. There's not been adequate time passed to establish a track record to review in this relatively new niche.

It probably is, but they have more crime than cops.

You don't. A contract MUST benefit both sides. A one-sided contract will not hold up in court. The issue is, you need a court case. These companies' profit in every case that doesn't happen. It costs them nearly nothing to rope someone into their scam, and they gain $10K if someone pays them. It's a massive phishing expedition for vulnerable people..

Supreme Court ruled door to door sales reps can sell so long as they have a license.

@@DMalltheway I suppose that my 12 ga had been the deciding factor in their leaving and the court didn't have any one there to voice a different opinion...OVERRULED

@@ColeTurner-sr8mc It’s not your rule it’s the supreme courts, laws are laws. Once you ask the salesman to leave, and he refuses then you got trespassing. Otherwise legal.