An actor who was clearly born to play a hobbit cast as one of the most important elves of all time.

A master blacksmith didn't think of mixing ores, ARE YOU INSANELY KIDDING ME? What kind of smith wouldn't mix metals in their craft? This is stupid.

Cerebrimbo Baggins

The Boss: when you fight him. vs When you play him as an unlocked character.

Shadow of Mordor/War is a perfect example of how "fanfiction" aka not lore accurate story, can still win the hearts of many and not completely piss off every Tolkien lover. Amazon could learn much from what fans LOVE and not force their own ideals onto its viewers.

Celebrimbor, Galadriel, Isildur and Elrond are totally miscast

Centuries old metallurgist No idea that you can create alloys

Shadow of Mordor series: Celebrimbor is a damn force of nature, consumed by a lust for revenge that only Talion understands, as both are forced to endure when they were murdered alongside their families. Not only is he formidable in raw power and fighting skill, his intellect remains a powerful weapon, as he uses it to manipulate his foes and allies alike. Additionally, his sheer willpower and insight into ring-lore allowed him to draw more power from the One Ring when he briefly wielded it than any other ringbearer save Sauron himself. Fought on the front line of the war and tried to 1v1 Sauron himself to save his family, and was only stopped because he did not realise the One Ring, unlike the others, had a will of its own and could abandon its bearer, which it proceeded to do mid-fight. Upon foiling Sauron's trap to bind his soul to his will and become a servant similar to a Ringwraith, Celebrimbor on Talion's suggestion, decided to remain in Middle Earth of his own accord, and not pass on to Valinor, remaining in his unkillable wraith form in order to combat Sauron on his home turf, buying the rest of Middle Earth decades of needed time to prepare their defences. He forges another ring of power using his knowledge from forging the others, and like the elven rings this one is not bound to the power of the One. But unfortunately begun to lose touch with himself as the New Ring begun to dominate him, not the other way around. This was likely because while the New Ring was not bound to Sauron, Celebrimbor attempting to make a discount version of the One Ring, attempting to replicate Sauron's methods, caused it to have powers he did not understand. Thus even should Talion and Celebrimbor, the Gravewalker, manage to subdue Sauron, Celebrimbor will simply try to replace him, proclaiming himself the Bright Lord and seeking dominion over all of Middle Earth, leaving it to his last true friend to desperately find a way to stop him. Rings of Power: A near senile stuttering old man dressed like a grandma, who barely even knows the basics of metalwork.

Rings of Power is an abomination.

I refuse to believe this is the greatest smith since Feanor. He comes across as a novice, not one almost equal to Sauron.

He’s the only elf who is old in the show , despite Galadriel being older than him.. -.-

The greatest smith in the world, second only to Feanor, didn’t know what alloys are.

Celebrimbor in RoP looks like a Hobbit to me. That was my first impression, started to think about Bilbo.

It's funny how this much-panned video game full of random extraneous fanfiction (looking at you, Shelob) treated Celebrimbor with so much more respect than Amazon treated the entirety of Tolkien's work. You really felt that this guy was Feanor's heir, in every way.

They turned elves into hobbits

When Shadow of Mordor/War were coming out people were saying that those games were skrewing the lore, but Amazon proved that there are depths to be reached

What can't understand is why in Peter Jackson's movies the elfs have long flowing hair but in the Amazon production they look like late TV show host 🤷 And why is Amazon's Celebrimbor looking like a 60 year old human? Elfs never got old looking!

Why is he looking like a hobbit in this series lol?

He reminds me more of Bilbo than of any elf I can imagine.

Celebrimbor in the power rings looks like my grandmother

1:34 As someone who just recently watched the Jackson Trilogy and who loves Tolkiens Dwarves very much I paused here to read the inscriptions. In the Fellowship of the Ring I was perfectly able to read the texts in Moria for example and despite the Dwarven language not really being complete enough to write a proper letter it was always clear that those were actual words and with a little effort it was possible to work yourself through what the creators tried to write. On this Amazon door here all we can read is total obvious gibberish. They weren't unable to pay for a nerd to do it properly. They just didn't care.

Tolkien's work turned into movies directed by Peter Jackson were like Mairon, Admirable One. But then after Amazon came and corrupted them, they turned into Sauron, Abhorrent One. Frodo didn't walk into Mordor for this.

When fanfiction feels more true to the source material then an actual attempt at adaptation you know you got a problem

Ring of Power Celebrimbor: has 3 cells left in his senile brain Shadow of Mordor Celebrimbor: “I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me.”

Ahh, the mastermind evil act of teaching the best smiths of the world what ALLOYS are! Truely an action of a dark lord... what a genious manipulation... truely you see his dark magical influences: ALLOYS..

Celebrimbor was the son of Curufin, fifth son of Fëanor and Nerdanel, and Fëanor's only known grandchild. Fëanor was the most skilful craftsman of the First Age, forging the three Silmarils to capture some of the light of the Two Trees of Valinor.

Hey Celebrimbor after centuries of forging metals, have you ever thought about making alloys? Celebrimbor: 😮

The option to cast only goofy, weird, old looking people as immortal elves known for their beauty was certainly an odd one. I will probably never watch this show, despite being a major LotR fan (the kind that read unfinished tales).

Haven't seen Rings of Power, only bits and scenes. But I don't think anyone can play Celebrimbor quite how Alastair Duncan did. The sheer power, wrath, pride and arrogance. One of my favorite performances in any game, and always the first version of Celebrimbor I think of when I see him mentioned anywhere.

Neither are canon, but I know which one I like more ;)

In the games celembrimbor really shows his feanorian heritage

Shadow of Mordor and its Bright Lord DLC did justice to Celebrimbor. They made him an elven badass and nearly made his combat skills almost on par with the elves of the first age.

Why is he an old man hes supposed to look young like in shadows of Mordor

Caricatures.... even their ears looks laughable. 1 billion for this????

Ring of Power also kind of forgot that elves don't really age. Not sure what the point they don't age in looks, perhaps around thrid years of age.

I saw the meme a year ago and the first thing that came to mind was "look at how they murdered my boi"😢

What do you expect Amazon to do with Fëanor’s grandson? Make him seem like a great elflord?

Did anyone involved with the RoP even attempt to look up any of the lore of the LOTR? Like it’s not as if there wasn’t an infinite source of material but instead they decided to go rogue, drop trousers and just crap on a script and submit it

When a video games owns your ass 10 times 😂

I loved Shadow of Mordor / War and the story branches they made. It was clearly fanfic, but great fanfic that we could all enjoy. A wonderful "What if?" of sorts. Then Amazon makes this dribblepiss.

Celebrimbor in ROP 'Grandma is kind of losing her marbles'.

They made Celebrimbor old british gramma, because the hero role was reserved for strong female fighting character, namely Guyladriel. The game adaptation was not accurate but they captured the essence of Tolkien world, where the Rings of power created some soap opera bullshit with Tolkien characters for billions of $.

Shadow of war/mordor cuscenes had me glued to the screen. Rings of power kept playing after i fell asleep and never again after ep4.

Sauron : What about heating metal ore so that it starts flowing like lava .... Celebrimbor : What an intriguing suggestion ... Gil Galad : All hail Celebrimbor who just invented ore smelting !

Sow version of celebrimbor was the most lore accurate version of him to date. Even tho ppl saying its not canon they did him very good. Line of Finwe had long black hair, bright blue eyes and commanding voice to top that they were really arrogant. And take a look at Sow series and tell me they didnt do him greatly.

I remember when I tried watching RoP with family. I was super excited to see Celebrimbor more than anyone else because of SoW. Even though I knew it was lore inaccurate, I was stoked to see if he would be even remotely close to that badass, cool, stoic, wrathful being that terrorized mordor. When Grandpa Celery showed up every last hope I had for the show was immediately snuffed out just like poor Celebrimbor was.

What’s especially funny is that Shadow of Mordor/War are equally as lorebreaking with Middle-Earth as Rings of Power, but their story is still superior.

Shadow of Mordor and War twisted the canon, but still had some resemblance or respect for Tolkien’s works. But RoP is like digging up Tolkien’s grave and taking a dump right on his face before doing the same to Christopher.

Dear Lord, the writing in ROP is abysmally bad!

For real. Shadow series really did good on Celebrimbor IMO.

Mixing ores? You wot? >how many kilos of steel is in that workshop

"One Elven archer is worth three Gondorian archers"

RoP Elrond and Celebrimbor look and act like hobbits, not elves. It's so cringe how hard RoP f'ed things up.

I don’t even care for Lotr or rather am not a huge fan but I played both games SOM and SOW Talion and Calibrimbors story was a fascinating experience he was everything I would expect from a guy who was one of the greatest warriors and smiths to ever walked middle earth strong, graceful, resilient, and awesome he hooked me into the lore of a series I have never watched or read. Then I watched ROP explained in 15 minutes or less and when Calibrimbor was revealed I was like “who da fu#k is this shy, skittish, goofy lookin uncle character” to say the least it was a sad day when I realized that the man I watched throw hands with Sauron like he was Muhammad Ali in his prime and only lost because the one ring betrayed him for it’s true master was reduced to this… truly a missed opportunity as even tho the games aren’t canon he was just so amazing in them.

The games make Rings of Power look like a 15 years old tumblr girl self insert fanfic

I take this as proof that they did not even bother reading the material. Celebrimbor led a desperate resistance against Sauron's army sieging his seat of Ost-in-Edhil, pissing Sauron off so much that the Dark Lord desecrated his corpse and used it as a banner. Can you imagine this actor playing such a character?

The pathetic excuse for “writing” in Rings of Power is an *abhorrent* stain on Tolkien’s legacy…and the miscasting of so many beloved characters?!? A good flogging for the miscreant in charge of casting would be my vote 🤷🏻‍♀️

I maintain that the writers absolutely did NOT read any of Tolkien's books, ever. When they said; 'go back to the book, go back to the book.' that was total bs. Should've been asked what book. I bet they couldn't name the three individual books from the trilogy

Its actually painful thats we had a billion dollar LOTR show and THIS is what we got. Imagine what it could have been.

You're telling me that the greatest craftsman in all of Middle-Earth doesn't know about combining ores?

Rings of crap was the worst thing ever on Televisión

I like how ageless elves all age visibly, and all beardless numenoreans all have bears. That's sarcasm

It’s amazing how shadow of Mordor, a game which’s known for screwing up the lore while otherwise being a really good game still portrayed Celebrimbor much better than that show which I would rather not name.

Rings of Power is an insult to every LOTR fan.

Celebrimbor, grandson of the greatest of the Noldor, and he's portrayed as some old dude who seems to be unsure of what he should be capable of.

If this is the grandson of Feanor then Barliman Butterbur is a numenorean and Lobelia Sacksville is a Balrog

Really wrecked me seeing how they casted Celebrimbor! I mean I know we weren’t gonna get the exact same version form the game but damn it’s definitely a great blueprint to start with

I think the problem here isn't really the difference between the two but rather the concepts of each interpretation of the character. Celebrimbor is a character the books tell us very little about other than that he helped forged the rings of power. These are both two seperate interpretations of a character we know nothing about, but one of which is far more interesting than the other. Shadow of Mordor/War explores the character in an interesting way, showing us his descent into tyranny and his own corruption, not by the rings themselves but because of his own ambitions. Celebrimbor, rather than outright refusing to make the one ring assisted Sauron in doing so, thinking he could use it to usurp him. Even as a wraith he lies to his only ally multiple times, betrays him, enslaves thousands of orcs and is overall no better than Sauron. The rings of power, however, makes him boring and nothing more than the guy who forged the rings, and as others have pointed out, he doesn't even really seem like a master craftsman, the one aspect of him we could almost be certain about. In RoP, he's just there to make superfans go "oH wOw LoOk iT's CeLeBrImBoR."

Почему Келебримбор выглядит таким старым? Он выглядит старше даже Галадриэли,а она приходится ему двоюродной тёткой?😂

I'm the books, he was more blacksmith than warrior. But I like this version too. Badass for sure.

Can we talk about the VO for Celebrimbor in the game? He had such a noble and arrogant quality. The character just oozed hubris and you could see how even the elves could be tempted by power.

The lore: "Elves don't age and always look faire and beautiful." Amazon: "So here is Celebrimbor, this old ugly bastard."

He is a SHADOW of what he should be!

And arent elves supposed to look young 😂

Shadow of Mordor/War Celebrimbor: 🗿⚔️ Rings of Power Celebrimbor: 🤡💅

Shadow of war may not follow lore but it looks and feels like middle earth still and as someone else said shelob shape shifting isn’t that weird because her mom could

RoP Celebrimbor looks more like Bilbo Baggins than an elf

RoP is what you get if you take a team of writers who usually work on teen dramas and put them in change of an epic fantasy. Of course you get characters who can only talk about "who never calls". And "I don't want to go to military school - I want to travel instead".

You managed to make the series good. congratz!

They did the exact same thing to elrond, he's tall and fair with dark hair who looks mighty in both the worlds of men and elves, he's the very image of halfelf and the numenorean king elros, yet he's never casted as such.

They did my man dirty

The greatest blacksmith of his time has never thought about combining different kinds of Metals. Fuck this show. FUCK. THIS. SHOW

Sorry I'm late. This was Brilliantly executed!

Shadow of Mordor flashbacks were epic. Animated with such style it gave the game life.

The people who worked on that video game could have made an excellent movie out of their methods used, though i don't like giving Sauron a voice and dialogue and don't like the voice used here.

Why do the elves look like hobbits?

Didn,t watch anything from ring of power.. books have my soul... played the game, and loved it..

If only we got the story of Talion. Add more character inside Mordor, add bysections that shows Gondor supporting his fight or whatever, it would have been a great tv epic.

The elves in Tolkiens world are rarely stoic. They're constantly described as both wise, old and youthful at the same time, loving songs and singing and are very cheerful, yet sad. There's almost an innocence to them, especially during his writings of the Third Age.

Amazon is a joke

I spit out my coffee when the seinfeld music played..😂😂😂❤❤❤

God damn I forgot how awesome the scenes are from those games

I mean, did any of you expected anything other than full disrespect and the cheapest possible everything from the global capitalistic olygopoly that forces employees to pee on water bottles because going to the bathroom apparently reduces their productivity?

he looks like a character from Deep Space Nine 😅

Dude the scene where he grabs the Hammer of Feanor like it's some cheap supermarket tool xD dude that pissed me off so bad

Rings of Power is how I'd remember lord of the rings in a fever dream, like kind of familiar but really different and weird

To be critical of the games as well, even another ring of power would be subject to Sauron's control cuz Sauron is the personification of Ring Lore - the very being that brought the concept into the world back when he was serving under the god-being of smithing. Even rings forged without Sauron's aide but with Ring Lore in mind are still forged as such, and their power is still connected with Sauron. Hence why the elves were scared shitless to wear and use the 3 rings they got (which Celebrimbor forged without Sauron being involved and thus they were untainted the way the other rings were) while Sauron was still at peak power and 'existence' because he could very much reach out and influence the wearers through those rings.

I refuse to watch this show. These clips are the most I've ever seen of it. I see now that my decision was the correct one. 🤮

Everytime i saw Celebrimbor walk off screen in the show i said “oh look grandpa’s leaving” 😂

I just can’t see this guy being a unstoppable warrior