Japanese Judo VS Mongolian Judo

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3 жыл бұрын

This video discusses and analyses the differences between Japanese and Mongolian Judo, and go deep into technical detailing.
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@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

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@Chadi 2 жыл бұрын

@Arambai Laishram thank you

@kananisha 3 жыл бұрын

I wait for these videos every day. Chadi doesn't disappoint.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much🙇🏻‍♂️

@kananisha 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chadi keep up the good work.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

@@kananisha 🙇🏻‍♂️

@fernandohsantos 3 жыл бұрын

Mongolian-style Uki Otoshi is amazing.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@sumitmandal7842 3 жыл бұрын

Hey chadi , can you do a video of Okinawan wrestling and modern Okinawan sumo ?

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Sure

@sumitmandal7842 3 жыл бұрын

@Bert Clayton it's tegumi or muto

@szkrukowski 2 жыл бұрын

First time I hear about it. I love researching lesser known arts like that. Thanks!

@fredazcrate4362 2 жыл бұрын

Insightful, accurate, and precise in evaluating both styles of Judo. Thank you Chadi for the documentary. 👍👊

@wilsonc3867 3 жыл бұрын

Voice sounds great, Chadi. Hope you’re well.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

I am thank you Wilson

@asharqconnect2839 3 жыл бұрын

I'm really impressed with your level of knowledge. Keep it up

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Hazem🙇🏻‍♂️🙏🏻

@georgeli926 11 ай бұрын

Great video!

@johngabrielle1857 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff chadi👌

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you John

@Dpackie 3 жыл бұрын

Love your vids.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave

@supportyourtroopsathletes6460 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer the traditional kodokan japense judo myself however some variations as we all know came into focus starting around the mid 80s that seemed to come around slowly over the years with different styles with the updated rules and regulations also, not sure on everyone else's preference. I was only very very young child at the time, but I remember my step father Harold Forshey, The world war 2 sensei for the American forces I advised your channel about talking his dear friend and our Olympic Bronze Medalist Ed Liddie of of the 1984 Olympic Games Yoko tomonage for the first time. I myself never met Ed on a personal level as they were adults and It was not until in the 90s with I was selected for the USA National team before Ed Liddie became my team captain under sensei Phil Porter before I had the honors to get to know Mr. Liddie. Sir, So that you know, My former student, Christina Vasquez, former silver medalist of the World Games and my former National Team Team mate and gold medalist, Diana Maganero who both had the experience training under Harold Forshey will heavily promote your channel as a thank you for doing this for my mother. I will be happy to get in a 4 way discussion with you all if you would like. Most likely I could get Ruben Felder, former bronze medalist at the world's, Felix Roder, Deuy Mitchell , 1984 Olympian who was trained by our other World War 2 sensei Ed Maily also as he still lives locally to me. Ed Liddie and I still keep in contact today and recently invited me out to his home in Colorado Springs as I am also close to his wife Tammy Liddie, former Alaskan state champion and National team member also. I do have some very strong friendships with all these judoka who highly respects my family and have social media. Ed Liddie was the head coach for the 2012 and 2016 paralympic team. If you wish to communicate with anyone of them for judo video promotions, feel free to let me know and I will be happy and honored to speak with them on doing so. Now I am very close dear personal friends with Kayla Harrison and Rhonda Rousey (and two other recent Olympians and one other world medalist, former team mate, Jose bescome) and spend time with them yearly but they never had the opportunity to meet my step father unfortunatly before his passing but I can talk to any of them for you to speak with you also. Judoka tend to support each other so if you want to organize with any of them, I will make this happen for your channel.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

That would be so amazing thank you very much

@ahmedb2559 3 жыл бұрын

Good video !

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙇🏻‍♂️

@eruston 3 жыл бұрын

liked and subbed, great content about a great sport.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙇🏻‍♂️🙏🏻

@rashidmartialarts9513 3 жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Rashid

@louisjolliet3369 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chadi, I would be very interested in a vid about "French judo vs Japanese judo" if there is such a thing. I could be wrong but in my limited experience in randori with French judoka, I was under the impression that there may be a dinstinctive flavor. For example, I could be wrong but I noticed that the grip fighting was very aggressive and tended to favor fighting from a distance, with a predilection for foot techniques and classical throws like uchi mata and seoi nage. Is there some validity in my observation?

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

That's actually spot on

@matiasg713 3 жыл бұрын

How long have you been doing Judo my friend! Good videos

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

2 years

@ken244 2 жыл бұрын

Judo is probably my favorite art, its just beautiful.

@ArpMadore1 3 жыл бұрын

You often mention Kosen Judo Of all the techniques invented by Nanatei Judo, which is a direct descendant of Kosen Judo, It's Harazutsumi that has had the greatest impact on Judo under the IJF rules 'Cuz this has been one of the motivating forces that pushed Japanese female players to Become dominant in Judo Newaza

@chrisprad8325 Ай бұрын

Beautiful breakdown, I just started judo and find it difficult to establish the traditional grips. Im an ex wrestler and I believe implementing the Mongolian grips might help me

@scottbauer71 3 жыл бұрын

Can you please contrast in a video or reply the "sleeve and lapel" of Judo against the "collar and elbow" of Catch Wrestling?

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

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@Alexander-pp7fw 3 жыл бұрын

Chadi my man!! Thanks for your advice from last time. I decided to stop pushing to learn wrestling just cause it is popular and decided to go with Judo and Jiu Jitsu instead I will try to master (or at least become decent) at both Judo and Jiu Jitsu. Like drilling and drilling and perfecting them. I strive to go to ADCC and win as well as go to MMA in the near future. The idea that judo is not good for MMA is nonsense. I will show the world it can work in no gi just as well as wrestling. Fedor, Ronda, Khabib many show the power of judo and many more have proved it. I will prove it as well. Appreciate you chadi for these videos!

@Korn-fu6lf Ай бұрын

I mean the fact that the greatest freestyle wrestlers like the Saitiev brothers use judo techniques, makes it clear that judo works without gi

@NickKano11 3 жыл бұрын

Superb analysis. You on Twitter?

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! No i only have instagram

@NickKano11 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chadi might be a good idea to create an account to broaden your potential audience.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

@@NickKano11 will do

@ichkaodko7020 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chadi can you refer me a video that shows this technique "reverse wrist splicer from Mongolian judo"? thanks

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure i know this technique

@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video, what I want to say is that the distinction between uki otoshi and sumi otoshi some times is not clear I think they manage to use both.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

One is rear and one is forward

@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chadi actually both can work on the side too so the distinction is a bit harder than that , I think it's better to distinguish them from how the knee is used on the dropping side , if the knee is pulling down when bending and back it's uki otoshi, if the knee is bending towards the corner to the side of the opponent's leg while stepping with the heel its sumi otoshi.

@the.wandering.warrior 3 жыл бұрын

Would be curious your thoughts and analysis of Taiwanese judo, given it is strong but often falls just short of international greatness in the Olympics.. 🙏😁

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

I'll check it out

@the.wandering.warrior 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chadi thank you (from Taiwan!), sincerely

@englishold4200 3 жыл бұрын

いつもあなたの動画を楽しみにしています。

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

私は光栄です

@munkhtulgabattogtokh1602 3 жыл бұрын

Uki otoshi is not a Japanese expression. They cannot pull it off in randori. In contrast, bokh is full of it. Technique is called "dungui"

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information

@JD-ww2ri 3 жыл бұрын

Uki otoshi is a first technique in the Kodokan's Nage no Kata.Is a pure japanese judo technique.As well as Sumi otoshi,are used for sure in randori,mainly as a counter.

@silafuyang8675 8 ай бұрын

Mongolians also pull it off in sumo a lot. Recently Japanese rikishi also started using it more.

@darylfields 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chadi what do you think about Japanese jujitsu v

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Which Koryu??

@darylfields 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chadi Hasegawa-ryu

@gracieyoutube909 3 жыл бұрын

Will you compare Korean Yudo next??

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Sure

@Kitajima2 3 жыл бұрын

Lol it seems like you increased your video output after you got sick. I have to catch up.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Haha thank you David

@KarlKarsnark 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a variant of "Judo" that goes to submission/tap, rather than Ippon alone? I realize BJJ is "basically just judo". However, they have all but eliminated take downs and throws, while Judo has all but eliminated ne waza and submissions. "Stand-up BJJ" of some sort would be ideal as Ippon alone, isn't intrinsically superior and being a one-dimensional guard puller is equally absurd. Of course, the problem is the "sportification" of martial arts. Once it becomes a "sport" the cheating, gaming the system, a hyper-specialization create something that is unrecognizeable and somewhat useless. This is the one thing that Aikido has been wise to avoid. Of course, the lack of "innovation" is the price they pay, but the older I get the more I appreciate that it's not so much what art you do, so much as that you're doing it at all. Thanks for all the amazing content Chadi! I hope the International Judo Federation is kissing your feet for bringing so much interest back to an amazing art. Cheers!

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Kosen judo

@jtilton5 3 жыл бұрын

If you want to see innovation in Aikido, look to Nishio Sensei's version of Aikido. Sadly he has passed away, but his students like my teacher are carrying on his teachings.

@jordanburton4147 2 жыл бұрын

Yep! Chadi and Drysdale are the reason I started formal Judo and have become a fan of this sport for real.

@channi58 2 жыл бұрын

This video is fantastic. Makes me wish no covid and only judo.

@scottbauer71 3 жыл бұрын

I married into a Man (Manchu) tribe family. Apparently her great-uncle was quite a good "wrestler" and taught her father. She claims he is waiting for our son to get older before training... our daughter is too young even to ask.

@mpforeverunlimited 3 жыл бұрын

How old is your son?

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

That's so awesome! Keep that tradition alive...bless your family

@christopherkabenguelle5474 3 жыл бұрын

Please do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu x American Ju jitsu.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

I'll get to it

@hiskandar 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chadi Somehow I read its definition from this website and I feel American Jujitsu is more a Jeet Kune Do rather than AJJ. Is it because putting a Jujitsu brand is more easy to sell due to the UFC indirect advertisement? www.americanjujitsu.org/aboutus

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

@@hiskandar yeah it's far different than bjj

@rustyshackleford735 3 жыл бұрын

Mongolian judo appeals most to me, probably because of my american folkstyle wrestling background.

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

It's a beast

@medir_3054 3 жыл бұрын

not bad !

@alLEDP 3 жыл бұрын

Chadi I like your content but that is the first time I have constructive criticism. Please avoid using terms like "they have to resort to Japanese expression" actually Mongolian judo is also very technical and uses as little strength as possible. I think it's not fair for the great technician of Mongolian judo like Khashbaatar etc. That was the first thing. The second is: is it a fact that women tend to favour ne waza more than men? I could imagine that a lot of women aren't that explosive with their techie waza and that's why a lot of throws don't end up scoring upon but eazari or a plain takedown and that's why they resort to ne waza but I am not sure. You are an academic did you look up the numbers or how did you come to that conclusion? Or was it just a feeling you got by watching a lot of women matches?

@alLEDP 3 жыл бұрын

Don't get me wrong and it's it's a great thing if you are able to ramble about your favourite subject but I think that because your channel through a lot during this and last Lockdown maybe you can consider the quality of research in this field. Dry for being rude. I just want to help

@Chadi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the critic, but i meant Japanese in expression as in swift and effortless compared to their uchi mata and their bear hugs, and regarding women i meant that their fights tend to go on the ground more than men

@ArpMadore1 3 жыл бұрын

It's an undeniable fact that women prefer Newaza to men If you've been watching the World Judo Tour a lot, you'll notice such thing soon Here are the recent data 2015-2019 Newaza Ippon wins and losses at the Olympics and the world championships *Japanese women 58 wins 1 loss* *mongolian women 17 wins 9 losses* *chinese women 15 wins 9 losses* *french women 15 wins 14 losses* *brazilian women 13 wins 10 losses* *Japanese men 21 wins 0 loss* *french men 14 wins 5 losses* *mongolian men 13 wins 3 losses* *Georgian men 12 wins 5 losses* *Russian men 11 wins 3 losses* *brazilian men 9 wins 4 losses* This should tell you that female players,especially Japanese women are by far the strongest And their main weapon is Osaekomi, not Submission They prove that Osaekomi is the most useful weapon, at least in Judo Newaza Their continued dominance on the ground with Osaekomi has remained basically unchanged since the 1990s