From Brasil: Judo is fantastic. This video serves to show, especially to Jiu Jitsu practitioners, that Judo is not just the gentle and recreational part of the sport.

A lot of these techniques are especially dangerous because they're sutemi-waza, meaning the person receiving the throw has their opponent's whole weight putting pressure on their joint on top of their own. Also note that kami-basami can be dangerous for the person performing the throw as well if you don't post properly, it's easy to injure your shoulder if you fall straight on it by doing the throw dropkick-style. Great point also about doing the takedowns in a dynamic manner, pulling guard into a leg entanglement BJJ-style is very different from explosively reaping the knee. Same with something like waki-gatame, doing it in a controlled manner is fine, but exploding into it will definitely cause injury (see Shinya Aoki breaking people's arms with that very technique).

this is what each school should teach

You should rename this video to "The forbidden techniques of Judo" and you'll get way more views

Great video as always! Thanks!

man, the kami basani looks brutal, no wonder its banned.

amazing work man

Great video and glad I found your page ..thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Man this arc just keeps getting awesome

Nice presentation thank you

Tks 4 show us this forbidden Techinics, Chadi! Kawazu Gake is a great news for me and I will try it in the dojo.

competition wise these are all career ending moves jesus

And I love your channel.

Awesome video brother Chadi! Thank you 🙏 one forbidden technique I learned from a Judo black belt years ago was the C-Clamp Choke believe it or not lol one thing I noticed differently from Judokas vs BJJ players (from sparring with both) was that Judokas have vise like grips and God forbid they were allowed to grab the trachea with their hands lol

Nice..thanks

Gentle Way!

These are some sweet techniques.

Great video, Kani Basami can certainly be done safely, but it can be hard to master and certainly has high risk. I think you are right, we shouldn't die on the hill for Kani Basami.

Outstanding 🙏

Ashi-garami looks identical to setting up a heelhook from open guard. I've used Do-jime from Closed Guard before in randori and got the tap, but I never knew it had a name (or that it was illegal). Using Do-jime from Back Control would leave you vulnerable to an especially nasty foot/ankle lock in any sport where leg locks are permitted.

Good timing Chadi, :) Next atemi waza ? (if not already covered)

thnkas for information

2 thoughts. There is always debate in the submission grappling community on if kani basami should really be banned. I used a variation in wrestling as a counter to a single leg. I did in judo practice all the time. It was actually a staple in my takedown arsenal and I ignored all warnings. Me and a teammate made it to the finals in NAGA no gi tournament and I was screwing around attempted to do kani basami on him. It was a "career" ending injury. (Obviously not our career) but my friend had both his ankle and knee shattered. The amount of guilt I have from that moment, then and now, has made it that I do not teach that technique, nor do I tell people they should do it. I was always told that Do Jime was banned because of how easy it was to just stall. Sambo, catch, bjj, all of them use that method. I can promise that ude garami has injured more people in one year then the entire existence of do jime. Especially big guys, beginners in jiu-jitsu try to do this because they don't know any better, I tell them that they need to stop because I am certain to a level of 99% surety that you will not get the tap. The body triangle, which is legal in judo as well, creates significantly more pressure. While I agree with certain techniques being banned for safety, most techniques are banned in judo do to sport politics and other countries being able to win against the Japanese too constantly. These reasons are why I walked away from the sport of judo. The sport, the sport application is what forms and shapes the art. People train judo to win medals, even if they don't compete, that is how they are trained. Unless you're training at a school like Hayastan, most likely you are not learning anything more then sport judo. Rarely, much less then 1% of all judo schools, practice combat effective judo.

I thought about the do jime trick but thank god i found dis video before tryibg it🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

I know the do-jime as The Xenia Onatopp from Golden Eye. My brother did it to me and I tapped.

WOOOOW Today i learned something

My favorite techniques

Thanks

Hi Chadi, is the real meaning of 'ashi garami' different with John Danaher version of 'ashi garami'? Bcos what John means from what i see is the control mechanism of opponent's one leg (and it comes to many forms of it such as saddle, reap, 50/50, etc) and what i see in your video, the ashi garami is not only a control mechanism, but also a finishing move.

I lost my ACL due to Kawazu-gake, so i know why its banned.

Chadi -- have you got a copy of the 1903 book titled "The Text-Book of Ju-Jutsu - As Practised in Japan - Being a Treatise on the Japanese Method of Self Defence " by Master S K Uyenishi. A lot of these techniques are in there.

other than low back injury, my ankle later tendons all 3 torn was the most devastating injury ever. 8 weeks in a cast and still cannot get bach to mt and that has been 4 yeary,

Plus one has to develop the mechanics and have the body signature. One can not see the demo and try it then wonder why it doesn't work. Every good art has its own body signature one has to develop from proper training. Thanks for all the great informations.

ive never actually seen do-jime done in real life, but ive met a guy who could finish people with the body triangle from the back position, it felt like my lower spine was about break and didnt feel like a choke

Do-jime is very simple and effective. No need of fancy stuff if you are able to get your legs around.

We worked very hard on all these techniques in the 60s and 70s. By far the greatest danger in Judo training are white belt students.

You mention fusen ryu. How do you feel about that was a previous attempt of what judo has become and both competed for that?

2.25 - absolutely beautiful. finish the fight quick. Chadi, I'd pay you massively to teach me these techniques privately. I have no interest in competition fighting. I am only interested in self defence.

1:45 - Ashi garami(sacrifice throw+ leglock + kick to the inner leg) 4:40 - Do jime (bear hug with legs) 6:20 - Kani basami (scissors throw) 8:55 - Kawasu gake (inner leg trip) 11:35 - Conclusion

@Chadi wish you were my teacher!!

Is kawasu gake and ashi garamu only found in judo or BJJ, anyother cultures? I know kawasu gake is from sumo btw

I used to do juijistu with a friend that did do-jime all the time. We never knew it was a real technique, let alone a forbidden one 😳

Before i got a injury in my knee(left) my most powerful judo technic and one of my best today is Harai goshi. I had to left judo, but i still can make a great Harai Goshi. Which of this technics do you thing is one of the best to combine with it? Self defense question, not sportive question

I wonder with the scissor kick take down that the problem for Judi is the diversity of throws. Of course in Capoeira we are doing this all the time, but we don't get in close with arms and it's obvious when someone is doing it so we can position or body as a receiver to not hurt ourselves. If you think there's going to be a hip throw (which you'd have in judo but not Capoeira) you'd position your body differently or even move around and this may make you much more vulnerable to injury, with the changes angle.

Kani Basami is a Scissor takedown. A sweep would imply one of the persons was at bottom position.

I believe Ashi Garami is what Jake Shields used and injured Cub Swanson's knee in their grappling match. Cub said he underestimated Jake's strength in that position. Jake had probably 20-30 pounds on him too.

I remember when i had just started karate at university when the bodybuilder-looking blackbelt got me with Do-jime several times. I cant be sure he really realised the potential risks but I knew it was a tapping situation. It sucks big time.

I trained silat before and scissors kick alot in sparrings and competition without much injuries. It is because according to Silat rule you cant use the arms to take down your opponent. The techniques must be done primarily by your legs

Grapevines can be used to prevent being elevated, but not to throw in American folkstyle wrestling, for the same reason. A grapevines leg can get the knee hyperextend fairly easily.

Shouldn't morote gari and single leg take Downs also be on this list? Considering that you're no longer allowed to grab legs, that makes these forbidden techniques too now, right?

That's something Rickson would seem to use! As to not having modern surgery back then. I seen it a few times said as the feudal era was coming to an end, only thugs were using jiu jitsu, but other jiu jitsu masters took up bone setting. Which if a person knows how to remove a bone from a joint, they should be able to put it back. Granted tendons could be stretched, but rest and recuperation. Yet, Judo, a person should be conscientious not to hurt another, but accidents can happen.

interesting

Happy New Year everyone!

I long thought the the best "system" for real world life death unarmed combat situations would incorporate all the banned techniques from various "sport" martial arts. E.g. Stepping on opponents foot while boxing to limit their mobility, punching below the belt, eye gouges from old school exhibition wrestling, etc. Fortunately have never had to be in one of those situations and hope I never will.

Its crazy to me that even though ive never done judo. Ive done and learned all theses. To be fair though the scissor kick ( kani basami) you learn in wrestling is much safer than the judo one

I Will buy or made a wrestling dummy only to understand better the dynamics of those dangerous throws and locks.

I feel that our BJJ arshi garami and judo arshi garami are similiar, both are lethal, but yet judokas do it with more fatality. I was cringing at the knee/leg when the pressure sink in.

it's sad that it's banned, I mean it should be taught in a safe way & cannot be used in a competition instead

We call do jimi the body scissors. I had to submit from this from an Iranian wrestler 30 years ago. I think I would have died!!

Do shime worked 4 me against a guy 65 pound heaver n stronger than me... his ribs were pressuring his tired exsausted lungs. Yeah he was breathin hard n 1st used close leg moved 2 close fig 4 moment closed got tap ... Ok ill never use it again my friend complained about not being able 2 take a deep breath 4 several weeks

Seriously, you aren't allowed to squeeze someone with your legs in Judo?

When I was wrestling at a tournament some kid did the scissor sweep to me (kani-basami) which is also illegal in wrestling, but the ref didn't call him or do anything to him about it, and I think I would up losing like 4-1, so I mightve lost anyways, or we might even tied Still think about that

Wince

It makes me remember ryo chonan X Anderson Silva!

Let’s not say spazzy white belt or spazzy beginner anymore let’s just say spazzy grapplers because in my experience they come in ALL belt colors !!!

Do-jime. On my stomach. Fortunately my opponent is not strong enough. Every student need to know this technique, so they know when the opponent did it.

Our BJJ is explosive at my academy.

All wristlocks, such as in the goshin jutsu, are also illegal

I honestly cringed watching these especially the last two techniques because I can feel the pain of it going wrong. I am currently experiencing knee pain although not from judo or any sport so imagining the pain of these techniques hits home 😂

Kubi Nage!

Kubi Nagi should be included.

Something that's mystified me for a long time is why modern grapplers who train for "self-defense" don't understand that so many of the modern tactics are invalidated by do-jime.

Dojime is very good for women's unarmed combat defense being females often have very strong legs.

You forgot to mention daki age

Do-Jime prohibited? Only in judo...

How many kata in Judo?

what? that do jime technique was used to me by a heavyweight in bjj. i thought that was just instincts

Judo= Jocking waza .

to bad they banned all the cool JJ parts, atleast keep the leg grabbing in takedowns, did it injure that much to do a single leg or an ankle pick? if you want to ban leglocks fine

Dojime and the body triangle doesn't look that dangerous

urigatogeshiymas

Bring these techniques back

Chadi, would you ever consider posting these videos in French? I'm trying to learn French and one of the best ways might be through listening to something I'm passionate about.

Fantastic 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️

Not forbidden in jiu-jitsu

Hi Chadi. I want to hear your perspective as a martial artist. What do you think about modern sport compared to ancient martial arts? Classic example: tennis vs. kendo. One is safe, no contact (except the ball). The other is kinda dangerous. Can you live in a world without martial arts? No American football, only soccer. No kendo, only tennis. Western chess and Chinese Chess, and Rome: Total War. Tennis alone can substitute for boxing, judo, kendo, H.E.M.A., slingshot (David and Goliath). Poker (you've got to know when to hold'em . . .) Dance battles instead of real battles. Dozens: A formalized verbal combat of telling a dozen of "your mamma" jokes. Ballet instead of Karate. (Ballet is more dangerous than Karate) Ball games. Basketball, baseball, volleyball, tennis. (tennis should be called tennisball), etc . . . WWE Smackdown! on the latest Playstation. Throwing a javelin for distance as opposed to throwing a javelin to hunt an animal for food Can you live in a world where our physical skills and intellectual skills can rise but take out the pain and the injury?

Really nice 👌 😍💋 💝💖❤️

Judo should go back to it's roots. Go back to time before judo became Olympic sport.

All of this is alive and well in BJJ. Why not try bjj to learn some things judo don't allow.

Ashi-garami looks awful 😱 I can tell why it's forbidden.