Re: Robert Kraft - we're missing the real story...

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Chael Sonnen

Chael Sonnen

5 жыл бұрын

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Chael Sonne talks about the arrest of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

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@joshbornman4457
@joshbornman4457 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this story will have a happy ending. 🤔
@fonyterguson562
@fonyterguson562 5 жыл бұрын
Josh Bornman hey !!? 👋🏼 I don’t care who ya are that’s 😄👍🏼 Funny
@tomuthynguyen7800
@tomuthynguyen7800 5 жыл бұрын
Josh Bornman HA
@benarist8970
@benarist8970 5 жыл бұрын
you won the internet with that one my friend LMAO
@HT.100
@HT.100 5 жыл бұрын
there will be several
@yourdaddy.956
@yourdaddy.956 5 жыл бұрын
It did for chael
@anthonybenincasa
@anthonybenincasa 5 жыл бұрын
Papa Cheal would be a great defense lawyer
@KeithWhalen11
@KeithWhalen11 5 жыл бұрын
Chael is. And he's never lost a case.
@Epicasian37
@Epicasian37 5 жыл бұрын
Your honor, let me offer you. Just where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this murder?
@DeliciousIcE132
@DeliciousIcE132 5 жыл бұрын
Uncle Chael*
@johnboforsyth5970
@johnboforsyth5970 5 жыл бұрын
honesty, no bias, logical and stern
@mwokozitaylor2794
@mwokozitaylor2794 5 жыл бұрын
Do not get your legal advice from Chael. Very entertaining though.
@MartianMoon
@MartianMoon 5 жыл бұрын
I think Chael is thinking of the word unsolicited
@takecare6832
@takecare6832 5 жыл бұрын
Martian Moon. Chael is a thinker
@jacobkent2457
@jacobkent2457 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to invite Joe Rogan to go on JRE
@sycadelic666
@sycadelic666 5 жыл бұрын
Props to a Chael for keeping it Real AF on the Jussie & Kraft stories recently. Mad respect
@benspencer6111
@benspencer6111 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao solicitation does not mean unwanted! Solicit means to ASK......
@kennethkieffer8669
@kennethkieffer8669 5 жыл бұрын
His google skills are weak. I like Chael but, he has a tendency to not know as much as he thinks he does. He speaks like he is an expert when he is misinformed.
@HT.100
@HT.100 5 жыл бұрын
@@kennethkieffer8669 It's part of the charm
@shantkhoshafian8698
@shantkhoshafian8698 5 жыл бұрын
If chael says it does it does.
@lazytreecko
@lazytreecko 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh its very annoying that someone as proud as Chael is that dumb and lazy
@johntoomey1411
@johntoomey1411 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you were just checking the wrong dictionary. Check that shit in ten minutes and see if Chael hasn't gotten the legal definition changed. If you ever get arrested for soliciting, show the cops this video and I GUARANTEE they will let you go. We've all been given a literal free pass from Chael.
@stevennieto9898
@stevennieto9898 5 жыл бұрын
Chael just earned his J.D. with this video alone.
@TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsCunt
@TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsCunt 5 жыл бұрын
Chael, you need to.look at the Florida laws concerning prostitution. Florida law defines solicitation as it relates to prostitution as the purchasing of prostitution services. It's pretty cut and dry. Your definition of solicitation is irrelevant when the law defines it another way
@voiceofreason9780
@voiceofreason9780 5 жыл бұрын
Love Chael but if he understood the law, he probably wouldn't be a convicted felon.
@MrShowbags
@MrShowbags 5 жыл бұрын
Voice of Reason Jesus dude! I love Chael but you roasted the tits off him in that single comment!!! 😂😂😂
@michealjaymurphy
@michealjaymurphy 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna be actor
@wdavis9680
@wdavis9680 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I find that you hit the nail on the head by pointing out the atrocity of Goverment and their manipulation of definitions in order to convict their tyranny over 'We the people'. Oops the definition 1 is to ask someone for something but definition 2 is to ask someone for something relating to prostitution so yup you are correct and I am not truly wrong.
@Krawberry
@Krawberry 5 жыл бұрын
Fony Terguson I did the same, “why did this guy call him a cunt?” Lol
@mlgquickscoper8122
@mlgquickscoper8122 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson the type of guy to retire between rounds just to make a comeback in the next round
@WindWalker1961
@WindWalker1961 5 жыл бұрын
You live under a rock...this is how all these folks roll...hello
@derekowens9291
@derekowens9291 5 жыл бұрын
Chael “Roger Kraft” Silva
@fonyterguson562
@fonyterguson562 5 жыл бұрын
Derek Owens are u telling me Chael ordered the creation of his nemesis? Wow .. I never would have guessed ..?? Never woulda guessed I’d still be this stupid in my late 20’s.
@GamersGuildMaster
@GamersGuildMaster 5 жыл бұрын
so·lic·i·ta·tion Dictionary result for solicitation /səˌlisəˈtāSH(ə)n/ noun 1.the act of asking for or trying to obtain something from someone 2.the act of accosting someone and offering one's or someone else's services as a prostitute. So the act of solicitation can go both ways
@aanonymouscowardsays
@aanonymouscowardsays 5 жыл бұрын
Either way he's right. Since there's no audio he didn't ask....they just agreed she could have been the one soliciting him
@aim6613
@aim6613 5 жыл бұрын
The true question is, where does Paulo Filho fit into all this?
@aim6613
@aim6613 5 жыл бұрын
@AP Damn I didn't notice the misspell, all bad
@ajphilbrick588
@ajphilbrick588 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Lee wants to know
@joncovington2859
@joncovington2859 5 жыл бұрын
Chael thanks for explaining this incident in very pragmatic terms.
@ESPLTD322
@ESPLTD322 5 жыл бұрын
Great police work, Officer Sonnen. I like all your takes on news stories for real.
@knightrider693
@knightrider693 5 жыл бұрын
I love how Chael's name is misspelled in the description
@joeramos4489
@joeramos4489 5 жыл бұрын
Chael isn't that smart but he's a good talker
@JP-dz7zu
@JP-dz7zu 3 жыл бұрын
My friend got popped in that same sting. Once Kraft’s name got leaked people started posting all of the men’s names. My buddy included. We had a good laugh
@mlgquickscoper8122
@mlgquickscoper8122 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson the type of dude to cut onions to condition his tear glands
@michaeldodd721
@michaeldodd721 5 жыл бұрын
This is like 10 yrs old. Nice try
@Jimmy58261
@Jimmy58261 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't solicit mean to ask?
@MartianMoon
@MartianMoon 5 жыл бұрын
Solicit means to try to obtain He’s got the definition totally wrong lmao
@Triple070007
@Triple070007 5 жыл бұрын
You can solicit someone's business, which is what asking for their product or service would be
@wscsace
@wscsace 5 жыл бұрын
If I ever go on trial I want uncle chael as my defense attorney.....undefeated in the octagon and in court!
@Mr.O_898
@Mr.O_898 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on chael
@COA-fg9yr
@COA-fg9yr 5 жыл бұрын
Chael spitting facts once again.
@sdf3038
@sdf3038 5 жыл бұрын
True that Chael, News outlets focused on the wrong thing
@brandonlopez5814
@brandonlopez5814 5 жыл бұрын
“Hang her shingle out there” 😂
@equinoxproject2284
@equinoxproject2284 5 жыл бұрын
-solicitation- 1.the act of asking or trying to obtain something from someone. 2. The act of offering someone one's or another's services. Both parties in this case are soliciting.
@alvarojneto
@alvarojneto 5 жыл бұрын
Don't take legal advice from Chael. You can't break the law thinking that it's the business owner's responsibility for upholding it. Not how it works.
@shocbomb23
@shocbomb23 5 жыл бұрын
Chael's 100% spot on it's not what you know,when he says we all know what happened it's what the DA can prove in a court of law and I gotta agree with Chael here if Kraft fights this vigorously I don't see the DA getting a conviction
@kendallbutler5166
@kendallbutler5166 5 жыл бұрын
If solicited = unsolicited for chael Sonnen then its gotta be true. The GOAT of not understanding words is still undefeated
@tlh1981
@tlh1981 5 жыл бұрын
They say he paid with macaroni & cheese.
@ajphilbrick588
@ajphilbrick588 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong Kraft brah
@tlh1981
@tlh1981 5 жыл бұрын
So he made his money in witchcraft?
@ajphilbrick588
@ajphilbrick588 5 жыл бұрын
He has a company that is diversified holding suck as entertainment sports blah blah blah not mac and cheese
@shigsho
@shigsho 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong Kraft company.
@borntwice4724
@borntwice4724 5 жыл бұрын
Chael seems pretty darn smart for being a retired mma fighter, I would think he would be dumb as a box of hammers but just the opposite, he is smarterer than most.
@danieldelanoche2015
@danieldelanoche2015 5 жыл бұрын
Chael you're just incorrect on the definition of solicitation. You goofed.
@prettyasia111
@prettyasia111 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy who’s cardio makes news feel old.
@bleekskaduwee6762
@bleekskaduwee6762 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting point of view on this Chael Sonnen. Will it work ? Who knows but I would love to see him try it out though.
@jssadame
@jssadame 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad Chael was a fighter and not a lawyer
@nekromachine
@nekromachine 5 жыл бұрын
Chael P Sonnen, For the Johns and the working Gals of the world. Represent
@ExtremelyAverageMonster
@ExtremelyAverageMonster 5 жыл бұрын
Journalist Chael vs Chef Chael for the Bellator Heavyweight strap
@khabibsdad1575
@khabibsdad1575 5 жыл бұрын
Lawyer Chael is now the most proficient Chael
@bjhasabeard2321
@bjhasabeard2321 5 жыл бұрын
Papa Chael sounds like he's put a lot of thought into this exact scenario for a "meaningful period of time"
@orangeiceice12
@orangeiceice12 5 жыл бұрын
Solicit doesn't mean "unwanted" whatsoever. it just means you asked for something.
@flightlinehero7746
@flightlinehero7746 5 жыл бұрын
14 Minutes! Robert Kraft is incredibly efficient whether it be running a world class organization or climaxing on a grimy massage table. What a guy!
@jessepaiz6356
@jessepaiz6356 5 жыл бұрын
Chael's understanding of prostitution law matches his understanding of money laundering status and fight predictions.
@superduty2023
@superduty2023 5 жыл бұрын
Tito tapped !!!!!!!
@iPervy
@iPervy 5 жыл бұрын
Joe has Jamie. Brendan has Chen. Chael has uncle Chael.
@shigsho
@shigsho 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Chael and important questions raised. No TRAFFICKING charges filed regarding the parlor Kraft went to. The woman was 58 years old and she owns the business. I doubt women who are 58 get trafficked. The woman said she could walk out any time she wanted to. This case stinks. Don't confuse this nonsense with the serious crime of young teens being abducted. Is getting a "handy" even sex? Bad judgment by Kraft but it is still a crappy misdemeanor meant more to embarrass him.
@user-ll7fv6tu7k
@user-ll7fv6tu7k 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Gillette feels about Kraft's "toxic masculinity."
@brentr.3260
@brentr.3260 5 жыл бұрын
Solicitation is just asking, doesnt have to be unwanted. Look up the definition
@yanicyoda4762
@yanicyoda4762 5 жыл бұрын
what if it's a reverse solicitation ?! what if she offered the act ?! no case there
@GG-dd5uw
@GG-dd5uw 5 жыл бұрын
Love em or hate em, he’s the realest in the game.
@johnlecorchick2039
@johnlecorchick2039 5 жыл бұрын
solicitation - the act of asking for or trying to obtain something from someone
@thadgoodson5147
@thadgoodson5147 5 жыл бұрын
Ladies and Gentlemen; Mr Chael P. Sonnen!
@samdihm4884
@samdihm4884 5 жыл бұрын
The real question is - just how good is Kraft’s masseuse?
@ajphilbrick588
@ajphilbrick588 5 жыл бұрын
If Chael is the defense lawyers the prosecutor and Tito both tapped
@topayistofail9703
@topayistofail9703 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve not watched TV for 4 years. Best thing I’ve ever done sacking tv off.
@nelsonroberts3668
@nelsonroberts3668 5 жыл бұрын
Chael Sonnen 2024
@drewjenn9819
@drewjenn9819 5 жыл бұрын
Chael, if you were representing Kraft in a courtroom you would be laughed out of the building.😄
@nunyabiz9393
@nunyabiz9393 5 жыл бұрын
How is it not legal yet? Its ok to give it away but you take a dollar for it. Makes no sense.
@chop3625
@chop3625 5 жыл бұрын
Kraft goes to trial but that Jesse dude walks clean, great justice system.
@theboss297
@theboss297 5 жыл бұрын
When you look into it..
@DWORLD-xl4pb
@DWORLD-xl4pb 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Kraft is the type of guy to buy something for 99 cents; give the guy two quarters, four dimes and two nickels and wait for his penny change. Which begs the question: how good is Tom Brady really? I’ve got stories about Kraft that would blow your mind, but not enough time to sell them. Suffice it to say, this misdemeanor is not going away. I’m willing to bet my SUBWAY sandwich and a noose around my neck that this arrest is about to be upgraded to sex trafficking now that the $150,000 donation to the group responsible for these “massage girls” has been revealed. Not since Madeoff madeoff with a multi-billion dollar ponzi scandal has a billionaire’s livelihood been at question and subsequently been taken down so easily in a government sting. I know what you’re thinking: Chael is way out there on this prediction...but let’s just say, I have an inside source -a friend of a friend- that says this story is bigger than the implication of a NFL suspension and a $500,000 fine. Unfortunately, Krafts only real crime is that he likes to fish in a bucket rather than a pond, but it’s illegal to fill the bucket yourself -while being quite legal to have your fill of hoes in a pond. Six of one or a half dozen of another: That’s the only difference here. 🤓🤫✌️ I live for Uncle Chael’s analogies 😜👀✅
@petermitchell4523
@petermitchell4523 5 жыл бұрын
Does he have a coffee machine next to his bed?
@ctastrophe
@ctastrophe 5 жыл бұрын
They have video of the act? Just say he was paying her to make an "Adult Film" and post it on some pay site - BAM! Prostitution laws are retarded given that you can "solicit" an actress to be in a porn film and that's perfectly legal
@timothyantoine914
@timothyantoine914 5 жыл бұрын
If it were human trafficking would the prosecutor's and cops be complicit . Who set up the camera's and monitored the tapes and reviewed them for six months .They let this continue for six months while these supposed victims were being trafficked .
@jeffsdao2081
@jeffsdao2081 5 жыл бұрын
Father Chael is spot on 🤜🤛 The real story is human trafficking and the news media is chickenshit , it’s just mind blowing and pathetic!!!
@cheese56218
@cheese56218 5 жыл бұрын
I live in in south Florida and those massage parlors are on everywhere corner. They are blatantly brothels you will see that there open all night long. It's like who goes to get a back massage at 3am.
@knightrider693
@knightrider693 5 жыл бұрын
I do, I lay down on the table and one Chinese lady massages my back while another milks me from down below. It's a great relief from night shifts at the warehouse.
@MrSackFirst
@MrSackFirst 5 жыл бұрын
But the question still remains... Just HOW good is Kraft's legal team?
@gvx33
@gvx33 5 жыл бұрын
Chael NEEEDS to stop jumping to conclusions before doing research when reporting on this stuff because he is OFFF on this. Hopefully someone he trusts will bring it to his attention and he will fix it. This is like the 5th time I have noticed his complete ignorance. He's not a news reporter he is an MMA analyst. News reporters have teams of people who help them get the story right. Stay in your lane!
@elihernandez800
@elihernandez800 5 жыл бұрын
You must be a falcons fan. Stfu
@gvx33
@gvx33 5 жыл бұрын
Good one 👌 You must be 13 years old..
@bhoits4147
@bhoits4147 5 жыл бұрын
He's an American Gangster..
@gvx33
@gvx33 5 жыл бұрын
@@bhoits4147 True but not an American news reporter lol (MMA analyst Yes)
@gvx33
@gvx33 5 жыл бұрын
@D D LOL another 13 year old that can only say "fuck off", GOOD ONE! Fake news is one thing getting your facts right before reporting is another..
@brettpierce119
@brettpierce119 5 жыл бұрын
Chael the language as it pertains to the law can be different than normal speak. Take a look at a state law handbook you'll see chief. Good video
@15aarondify
@15aarondify 5 жыл бұрын
Chael breaking down the news that everybody really cares about
@nicksizemore6914
@nicksizemore6914 5 жыл бұрын
I just want a video of chael reading off all the names of the girls that work in this massage parlor
@dducharme84
@dducharme84 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, "hung her shingle out there"
@rtblackev8
@rtblackev8 5 жыл бұрын
I think if the DA does not have audio then they have a serious problem with this case. I am not totally familiar with Florida Law, but most states have a prostitution law that reads some like this: "An agreement of sexual gratification that involves the genitals and agreement of compensation a person commits prostitution." That is a general paraphrase of most state laws. From what I understand Florida Law reads a little bit different. However, again there has to be an agreement of compensation and an agreement of some type of sexual gratification. One other thing to note he opted for trial by judge right out of the gate. I find this really interesting because most clients are told to opt for trial by jury. I think the only reason Robert Kraft's legal team would do this is because they plan on steam rolling the prosecutor and judge. If I was the judge in this case I would be very scared of this case .
@purehell5010
@purehell5010 5 жыл бұрын
Idk if you are using this solicitation stuff correctly
@Javai7
@Javai7 5 жыл бұрын
This is why it's best to get a law degree before you give legal advice.
@Cliff_Booth
@Cliff_Booth 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting defense argument if that was the correct definition of solicitation
@pheonix2160
@pheonix2160 5 жыл бұрын
The man was paying for a service, it has nothing to do with it being unwanted, look up the meaning. He offered money for an illegal act and got that and paid for it each time. That is soliciting
@johnk5825
@johnk5825 5 жыл бұрын
There was no human trafficking, no slavery, because it's not needed. The girls that work at these kind of establishments make anywhere from $5K to $10K in one month (cash money), maybe even more. At any rate, they are making more money in one month than they make in one year in China. Most establishments do not offer sex, some do, not all. Living at the place of business is not uncommon, the women do not want to be tied down with a lease, and will gladly live in the back of the store, all they need is a cot, shower and a hot plate. Chinese women are tough women, they don't require much.
@paulwill6196
@paulwill6196 5 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how confident speaking can do sound, you can be wrong but sound correct. Lol
@pberPSR
@pberPSR 5 жыл бұрын
heres a piece of advice. dont hire chael as your attorney.
@KashifsPOV
@KashifsPOV 5 жыл бұрын
Just how good is Kevin Ferguson ?
@Robman275
@Robman275 5 жыл бұрын
Well he's dead and his last fight was an absolute shit show that was overturned because he was on steroids, so yep.
@MikeJones-rk1un
@MikeJones-rk1un 5 жыл бұрын
Evidence was collected illegally including stopping his car for no reason to get his identity. Any camera's were NOT needed or used for the purpose they were intended, they were not used to catch any human traffickers. If the police were trying to catch anyone involved in human trafficking they would have acted immediately rather than wait a month when all they could do it embarrass people for their own personal career advancement. There is no human trafficking charged.
@pattyhays487
@pattyhays487 5 жыл бұрын
He was trying to pop twice for the same price!
@Menyhard
@Menyhard 5 жыл бұрын
He knew what. He was doing
@fonyterguson562
@fonyterguson562 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson’s the type of guy That’ll spit in your face as a joke .”but would never do something like that seriously..”
@bigollie006
@bigollie006 5 жыл бұрын
The only news I need is the Sonnen Times
@karlarden6260
@karlarden6260 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, Just how good is Kraft Dinner?! I mean, it’s gotta be KD!!! And how does the powdered cheese fit into all this?
@holistichealthg
@holistichealthg 5 жыл бұрын
Even if solicit means ask, which it does, Chael Sonnen still makes the point. You cannot ask a prostitute for prostitution, ‘that’s what she does.’
@CGoody564
@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын
Stretching this one Chael. Sexual allegations do not need to involve sex; only sexual acts. And although the law misuses the term of soliciting, the fact remains that the law states that prostitution itself is a crime (except Nevada), and the purchase sexual favors is in of itself a crime. You have a point with no audio, but circumstancial evidence is accepted; it isn't a stretch that the court will accept the implication that the money handed over was specifically for the sexual favor received. If he says it was a relationship, you're right. He wins. And regarding who it's on to know the law of the industry, the John is still committing a crime. He is obligated to understand and follow the laws of the state they are citizens of, as is the case with all citizens of any state.
@thekingofcolumbus6146
@thekingofcolumbus6146 5 жыл бұрын
His cte it's getting the best of him he's going crazy
@rusty5019
@rusty5019 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Kraft saw Tito tap, and so did she
@joevarrati466
@joevarrati466 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy to get a massage and give the girl a reach around
@ehahn485
@ehahn485 5 жыл бұрын
Just how good is Robert Kraft’s lawyer?
@isaacchassman6453
@isaacchassman6453 5 жыл бұрын
Why is Chael always 2 days late w news
@powergrower
@powergrower 5 жыл бұрын
The real question is how did we get to a point where the government tells us who we can and can't have sex with?
@lordburlap4514
@lordburlap4514 5 жыл бұрын
Why did Kraft go to this place even if he could have anyone because he could pay for it?.....because going to a seedy massage parlor is what turns him on.....
@Thakurufaan
@Thakurufaan 5 жыл бұрын
His legal definitions are way off but i still couldn't resist the charm and watched the full video
@tonybadr6533
@tonybadr6533 5 жыл бұрын
Kraft follows around Lan Yan Ma. Who was previously arrested for suspicion of human trafficking in MASS. Now he's a repeat customer down in Florida. Where? Lan Yan Ma is head of operations. And he's just an old man wandering around helpless. Him and his girlfriend are still mourning the passing of his wife. He's obviously connected to Lan. Yan Ma for sometime. She was arrested back in 2012. Interesting stuff.. 🤔
@Maazitung
@Maazitung 5 жыл бұрын
Tony Ferguson is the type of guy to throw a flying armbar when submitting his tax refunds.
@jayhemp00
@jayhemp00 5 жыл бұрын
The legal charge is literally "solicitation of prostitution" lol!
@parawill7074
@parawill7074 5 жыл бұрын
The charge is that way due to the fact that the women were there against their will as sex slaves. The sting was based around a sex trafficking ring, so the women aren't considered "prostitutes" per se. The issue I have with the case is that they investigated this place for 9 months and used it to capture guys who were going there to pay for sex. The real question will be how Kraft and other big names even knew about this place and why was Kraft caught near the end of the sting when police likely had more than enough to shut the place down? We need to know who approached him with the information about the place and if the same individual reached out to other big names? Then the main question to ask would be if the individual who got the information out about the place had any contact with law enforcement? The case really smells when you find out that LE was investigating for a long period time and installed cameras to capture guys being led into a sex trafficking den. Don't get me wrong, Kraft and the others were wrong for going, but it all comes back to if they were set up. These high profile older men needed to be approached about the place and it makes you wonder if LE were involved in a conspiracy to go after them.
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