Changing Hydro Fluid on Zero Turn Mower! DIY.

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That SlumLord Life

That SlumLord Life

4 жыл бұрын

This is on a cub cadet RTZ 50.
I was expecting this mower to have hydro filters when I started and was expecting this to be a simple change. This mower however didn't and the hydrostatic gears needed to be removed and drained. This became a bigger project but I still walk you through the steps as best as I could!
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@guerrillaj
@guerrillaj 2 жыл бұрын
Mines like this too. Next time I buy a zero turn thats the first thing Im going to look is drain plug and filter for hydros because thats such a pain. Great video thanks for sharing
@bobbyt3358
@bobbyt3358 3 жыл бұрын
Same set on my Gravely mower. The manufacture should be ashamed of their selves for that design. Thanks for the video.
@phrodendekia
@phrodendekia 2 жыл бұрын
No they are not ashamed at all. Those are purposely built so it's difficult to service them and users think its a sealed unit, or they dont know how to service them and break them because of lack of mantainance and they end up buying new transaxles because of that. All they eant is you to buy new stuff. If you want to service your equipment you need to become a small engine mechanic all by yourself 🤣
@chasb7771
@chasb7771 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video! Very helpful, I'm not afraid to try this now!
@GT-jp4bo
@GT-jp4bo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much my brother and I've been wondering how to add or change the oil on mine too lol
@johnwehunt4305
@johnwehunt4305 Жыл бұрын
It really should be done in the off season. Allowing the old fluid several day to drain and then keep coming out to fill with new.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
Probably but for most of us, it gets done when it needs done. Lol
@jesusquintana9374
@jesusquintana9374 Жыл бұрын
Hell yea I will do that to my mower ! Thanks bro
@mrproton1
@mrproton1 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, I got the same mower, will be doing this soon
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
If you are having problems and thinking something is wrong check for seal leaks. Mine i found out later that it ended up being a seal that leaked. After a few mows it was sluggish again and fluid was low on one hydrostat, took me awhile to figure out it was from a leak though since it was a slow leak. Haha
@altonrowell613
@altonrowell613 Жыл бұрын
I've seen some of these videos of oil changes with out purging the air out. Running a hydro systems with air in them is running mettle to mettle. If you're hydro transmissions is leaking a person needs to repair the leak. I've seen hydro transmissions bearn up from low oil. Those things get 🔥 hot. The pumps have close tolerances. Most times changing the oil will make it work because the thick of oil is sealing of internal leaks.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
We're hitting 10 or 11 years with this thing... i keep saying im going to upgrade and it keeps running!! Haha
@nickeycole8953
@nickeycole8953 2 жыл бұрын
Lol with the video sped up the traffic going by sound like you’re at a race track😅 Very helpful video buddy. I’ve got and old Snapper zero turn Cruiser with issues and I am hoping to do the same to fix mine.
@donteagnew881
@donteagnew881 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sirsparksalot2
@sirsparksalot2 3 жыл бұрын
You really need to purge the air out of the transaxles when you change the oil. While the rear wheels are still of the ground, and bypass open and engine running, move the control levers full fwd and back 6-7 times, then same with bypass closed. Those transaxles most likely have an internal filter which is a pain in the arse to change.
@Trozen17
@Trozen17 3 жыл бұрын
They have a screen, not a filter. Cheap pumps.
@mattgrovesdc
@mattgrovesdc 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me more about the bypass. Is that a lever somewhere?
@sirsparksalot2
@sirsparksalot2 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattgrovesdc the bypass is the lever you would usually use to disengage the transaxles when the engine won't run and you need to push the mower.
@mattgrovesdc
@mattgrovesdc 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirsparksalot2 oh hey that's easy! Thanks!
@viktorkalashnikov2871
@viktorkalashnikov2871 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you help
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
No problem
@robbiecryer
@robbiecryer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. Wondering once when all put back together, and if need to put more oil in it, wonder it you could access threw the breather pipe to add more oil, as while stripped down on floor you carn't purge it till back on mower, just saying, thanks in advance
@sinisterrevelations4493
@sinisterrevelations4493 3 жыл бұрын
Could it not be purged by using a drill and a nut the size of the one on the fan and move leaver back and forth when it's pumping from the drill While it's on the ground or bench ?
@davidruiz5383
@davidruiz5383 Жыл бұрын
great video, I have a zero turn like yours and it may need oil change but need to find a tech. thanks
@AlpineWarren
@AlpineWarren 27 күн бұрын
My dad sticks a vacuum tube down the fill hole and pulls out almost all the fluid
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 26 күн бұрын
Nice! If it works... it works! 🙂
@easttnlawncare6740
@easttnlawncare6740 11 ай бұрын
C they should make it pumped where you can pump that out without taking it apart
@ivansaucedo3408
@ivansaucedo3408 3 жыл бұрын
I have a timecutter mx 5000 . same thing
@philorton1940
@philorton1940 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful video. Thanks for sharing with those of us that have the same units. My Troy Bilt looks exactly like your Cadet except for the color. LOL. Think my first approach will be to drill a half inch hole in the engine deck above the filler plug and try to pump it out with a small hose, sort of like changing inboard boat engine oil thru the dipstick hole. Based on comments here, i'll also be careful to make sure most of the oil is removed, If this lazy approach fails will remove the units. Thanks again!
@davidruiz5383
@davidruiz5383 Жыл бұрын
Great idea, that what was done to my van’s transmission when changing the oil, suck the old oil. Hope it works on the lawn tractor.
@altonrowell613
@altonrowell613 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering did you purge out the air.
@mikesautomaintenance5780
@mikesautomaintenance5780 Жыл бұрын
How many quarts of oil did each side take?
@MrAqq147
@MrAqq147 3 жыл бұрын
Hope my troy built isn't this bad my same side as i is having trouble turning on mowing a third lawn just makes a grinding sound but after i let it sit for 20 mins it runs good again
@viktorkalashnikov2871
@viktorkalashnikov2871 3 жыл бұрын
I have same problem whit my troy bilt leak some oil i will replace the lip oil seal
@mattgrovesdc
@mattgrovesdc 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! It really sucks when the drain plug strips out and you can't find a T45 to hammer into it to try and open it up!
@Prince-gq3bw
@Prince-gq3bw Жыл бұрын
Yep..
@LawnZip
@LawnZip 10 ай бұрын
I have a video on this. I know the comment is old but for the people here in the future it's on my channel.
@RunnerXC1518
@RunnerXC1518 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, have to do this to mine. How hard was it to change the seal that was leaking? Did you have to crack the whole thing open?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
The seal that was leaking for me was the one behind the parking break gear thing. Didn't have to take it apart. It also doesn't have a locking pin/clip so I had to use a socket and make sure it was hit in their good.
@juliogange3668
@juliogange3668 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of oil you use?
@genebrother
@genebrother 3 жыл бұрын
What size alan wrench? I'm going to add rather than take unit out as there is a access hole on frame to remove the screw plug.
@gabbylinks
@gabbylinks 2 жыл бұрын
How many qts of oil to one unit??
@stevemccord8233
@stevemccord8233 10 ай бұрын
This video was great. I had the same problem. I thought I was going to have to replace this high dollar part. After seeing the video I changed the fluid also. Now it works like a charm. I just don’t know if it’s going to last. I’m thinking after watching some other videos that the problem may reoccur. Maybe not. Did it stay working for you? Also the right side is lagging just a little so I may go ahead and change the oil in it now. Thanks again, you saved me a bunch!
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 10 ай бұрын
I ended up having a small seal leak. It was the seal where the parking brake gear shaft comes out. I tried replacing the seal and can't get it to seat properly so it still has a small leak. I just fill the hydro fluid up every year and it's been good for the year. Ive been talking about getting a new mower but haven't since it still runs so ill keep putting that cost off. Haha 🙂
@Qamar-NJ
@Qamar-NJ 19 сағат бұрын
I have the same issue, the left side of my huqsvarna RZ 5426 basically has zero power after running for 10-15 min. Does oil change actually fix the low power issue? Curious to see what everyone’s experience has been. Thanks!
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 19 сағат бұрын
Mine actually had a small leak in the rubber seal. So it was low on fluid. I replaced the rubber seal but can't get it to seat right so it leaks a little and now just put hydro fluid in it at begining of the season. Just a slow leak. Try just adding some fluid. If its low you could have a leak too.
@garyhardin3619
@garyhardin3619 Жыл бұрын
Just was wondering if your changing the fluid totally fixed your hydro Transaxle problems. Are you still having problems once the oil heats ups?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
I ended up finding a leak in the rubber seal where the brake comes out. No other issues.
@hardtop123
@hardtop123 2 жыл бұрын
these hydros have an internal oil filter inside them....im not surprised that the hydro stopped working going by the oil that came out of it
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
I later found the rubber seal was leaking. after replacing it, it's been fine!
@garyhardin3619
@garyhardin3619 Жыл бұрын
Just happened to see your reply and thought I would ask someone who works on these units a few questions about the problems I am having before I tear into my Cub Cadet Z force 44.. My research shows it was built back in 2005 and Cub Cadet no longer carries any parts for it.. My only hope is that I can try and repair it like this guy did in another link... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLqqiZCU0smaiYk.html .... It is a sealed unit like I suspect SlumLord Life worked on here, but I haven't gotten under it to check yet.. Any advice would be appreciated.. Thanks.
@altonrowell613
@altonrowell613 Жыл бұрын
I thought about while you had the transmission off what about using a electric drill and socket to spin the drive pulley to help you purge out the air.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
I didnt purge it, it ran fine without once it was used and filled back up. I did later find that i had a small leak in a seal. I just fill it up now when it starts lossing power. The leak was so small it was hard to find.
@altonrowell613
@altonrowell613 Жыл бұрын
@@thatslumlordlife what research I've done say's if you don't purge out the air before putting it under a load can do damage to it. I have a Hustler Fas trak and my manual says purging must be done after replacing the hydro oil. I put my mower on jack stands and run it for several minutes before setting it on the ground.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
@@altonrowell613 i had the wheels still off the ground and ran it a bit... might be what you mean by purging the air.
@MunkeeKing
@MunkeeKing Жыл бұрын
What about the bolt with the tube? Don't you open that up and also tell that side?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
You could I guess, not really needed since it will all drain out of the hole with the drain plug. I can't remember now but i think it looked plastic so I would be careful turning it off to not crack it.
@LemmeHold20
@LemmeHold20 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the (ezt) transaxle took 20w 50 n the ones with filters take hydraulic fluid correct me if I’m wrong?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
They are all basically the same thing. 20w 50 and 15w 50 can be used and it's cheaper than hydraulic fluid. The manufactures all recommend and say hydraulic fluid and normally don't tell you the weight to use so you are paying the higher price. Makes no difference if it has filters or not. It's still a hydrostatic drive!
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
in other words, 20w 50 is hydraulic fluid.
@LemmeHold20
@LemmeHold20 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatslumlordlife gotcha I sure didn’t know that, always thought 20w 50 was a type of motor oil meant for high heat n hydraulic fluid was completely different, but hey I learnedsomething new today
@hardtop123
@hardtop123 2 жыл бұрын
@@LemmeHold20 these units MUST use a synthetic engine oil rated at 15w50.........DO NOT USE hydraulic oil in these EVER!!!!.....hydraulic oil will not withstand the heavy shearing forces created when these units are running....also the oil needs to be changed every 250 in these units as well
@LemmeHold20
@LemmeHold20 2 жыл бұрын
@@hardtop123 only got 24hrs on it atm, so u say change it at least every 250hr,, I’ll def do that… thx
@snowboard7punk
@snowboard7punk 2 жыл бұрын
I did this to mine and I still get bogged down going uphill. Any advice?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
Check fluid to see if its low, you could have a small leak. I ended up finding the seal where the parking brake attaches to was leaking. Also check the drive belt and make sure its not slipping.
@mustangmadness2619
@mustangmadness2619 3 жыл бұрын
Can you show what kind of oil they gave you or say what grade and weight they gave you. I have the same Hydra Drives on a Troy-Bilt zero turn. Thanks Rick
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
They dont say what it is due to they want you to buy this over priced oil. Everyone else says its 20w 50.
@faceless_xo2750
@faceless_xo2750 2 жыл бұрын
Finally found someone with my same issue. I even got a new transaxle.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
Mine ended up being a leaky seal.
@cameronwilliams6611
@cameronwilliams6611 2 жыл бұрын
Can You Mow Grass With The Cub Cadet Next Week Please On The Video
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
Mine is 9 years old and not in great shape anymore! Haha
@handbananaistherapist642
@handbananaistherapist642 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the axles could be pulled and drain that way? Much easier than removing the pump.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling they are connected from inside the housing.
@bluelineoffroad
@bluelineoffroad Жыл бұрын
It has a Hydro Gear 2200 transmission, so it is "supposed" to be non-serviceable. These transmissions are not unique to Cub Cadet, and are on most of the residential zero turn mowers in the $3,000 - $4,500 price range. Anything with fluid should be serviced. Removing the trans is the recommended procedure, but I've also seen someone who actually drilled and tapped a drain plug in the bottom so that the fluid can be easily drained and filled. You may also be able to pump the old fluid from the fill plug, but you won't be able to drain as much as you would by removing the trans first.
@bigsonslawncare
@bigsonslawncare Жыл бұрын
I tried to drain mine today without removing with pump got most of it out refilled with 20w50 so we will see what happens
@LawnZip
@LawnZip 10 ай бұрын
​@@bigsonslawncarewhat happened? Doing mine tomorrow.
@bigsonslawncare
@bigsonslawncare 10 ай бұрын
@@LawnZip Well it still struggling when it's very hot outside after 40m of above 85 and humid 🥵 the right side gets weak after allowing it to cool down for 5min it drives just fine. I may drain both sides next time since I'm comfortable with doing it now
@LawnZip
@LawnZip 10 ай бұрын
@@bigsonslawncare as for purging it they are talking about pulling the levers to push it ans jacking it up and going foward and backward for some time right? About to start sucking the fluid out now.
@bigsonslawncare
@bigsonslawncare 10 ай бұрын
@@LawnZip Yes I sucked out the fluid out back some fresh 20w50 and then purge system with the wheels off the ground they say👍🏽
@silverdragontaylir8252
@silverdragontaylir8252 12 күн бұрын
Suck that fluid out like (Midas),or drill and tap for drain plug (1/8 inch )pipe plug
@johnblair4668
@johnblair4668 2 жыл бұрын
How much oil did each unit hold?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 2 жыл бұрын
almost two quarts.
@PhilisophicalDad
@PhilisophicalDad 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect you could have used the pump to drain it.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
the pump wouldn't get it all drained out leaving a lot of the crude that came out with the oil.
@lloydmorrison5979
@lloydmorrison5979 3 жыл бұрын
I am so pissed off that Cub Cadet installed such a crappy drive system, Just to get to you buy a new mower! The deck also has a connection to "Flush" the deck after use, when the SCAM is to get you to get water in the bearings of the spindles and either replace the spindles at $150.00 EACH or do what I did, buy Elastomeric bearings and NEVER use water again!!
@Lawncare_masters
@Lawncare_masters 3 жыл бұрын
mine is having the same problem i did add oil to it and it seemed to help but now it just takes longer for it to have the same problem was this the case with yours and how long did it take to fix itself after you added the new oil
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was good right away. I also found that I had a leaky seal and had to replace it too.
@Lawncare_masters
@Lawncare_masters 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatslumlordlife did you have to perge air out of the transmission
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lawncare_masters Sounds like you may have a leak as well. Mine was leaking out behind the parking brake. There is a seal there. I'd check that seal first. I'm actually still having issues with it cuz after a few weeks it pushes it self out. There isn't a clip/pin that holds it in.
@Lawncare_masters
@Lawncare_masters 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatslumlordlife thx but I think I fixed mine there was no leak no drips but now I need to add oil on the right side becuase the left is now just a bit stronger try purging the trans on yours becuase when you change the oil you let air in and you have to bleed all the air out
@joefro9473
@joefro9473 10 ай бұрын
HOW IN THE HECK CAN AN ENGINEER THINK ITS OK TO NOT HAVE PUT A FILTER ON THE FREAKIN TRANSMISSIONS, THOSE PEOPLE WHO DESIGNED THIS NEEDS TO FIND A DIFFERENT JOB!!!!!!!!!
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 10 ай бұрын
All the residential mowers i looked at don't have filters. They start putting filters once they hit commercial. 😒 So mowers under $4,000 don't get filters.
@onefixitman
@onefixitman 16 күн бұрын
They want you to drive it until it breaks and buy a new one instead of changing the oil and filter. Crooks.
@MrTheeduck2000
@MrTheeduck2000 22 күн бұрын
That was a lot of unnecessary work. I can't understand why you took it apart to change the hydro fluid. All you had to do was take the plug out the top, stick a small hose down there from a fluid transfer pump and pump it all out. Then reverse the hoses and fill it up with new 5w50. Quite simple. Been doing it that way for for years.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife 22 күн бұрын
I got more drained out! 😝🤣
@sherrischneider2794
@sherrischneider2794 Жыл бұрын
You need more tools that fit the job.
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
Like what?
@cornchipharper
@cornchipharper 2 жыл бұрын
You must lift a little on one side to make turn properly, can not let wheel slide. To me toro is not a good lawnmower, transaxle go out fast. The best to keep moving is cub cadet. My Opinion .
@MrBrandonleffall
@MrBrandonleffall 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having a issue with mine not wanting to drive... It's moving super slow and I've changed the drive belt and that haven't fixed the issue... I'm thinking about trying to... It's a sealed system and I'm thinking it's possibly low in fluid or something...
@cornchipharper
@cornchipharper 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrandonleffall ,yes may be low on fluid, maybe seals, check make sure fan blades turning and none are broken off.
@altonrowell613
@altonrowell613 Жыл бұрын
That fluid sure looks bad.
@lionsdejudah
@lionsdejudah Жыл бұрын
Who wipes their dirty hands on their pants still? A child?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
I'm 5, you must work in an office!! :)
@lionsdejudah
@lionsdejudah Жыл бұрын
@@thatslumlordlife Do you eat your boogers as well?
@thatslumlordlife
@thatslumlordlife Жыл бұрын
@@lionsdejudah 🤣 and who's the child here? Lol
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