Well said!!!

This kind of mentality is actually the same mentality as the Malays demanding bumiputera treatments in Malaysia when they see themselves threatened by the the influx of chinese and indian immigrants and it certainly goes against one of the cornerstone of Singapore success which is meritocracy. With the influx of foreign talent, there are downside in term of increased competitiveness be it wages or etc but the positive side is it attract more opportunities and options for locals who are deserving of it. Obviously I am not talking about those undeserved who try to demand or rather robbing from those with merit. Honestly, if you are the boss of a company, for same wages, will you hire 100 degree holder or 100 diploma holder? To add on, I cant help but to notice that the above author seem to desire communism where there are no privileged and equal share of wealth for all the people irregardless of merits.

IF u are really 15, then good for you for being so politically aware and not buy into propaganda. See yourself firsthand on the ground what is happening to draw your own conclusions. Keeping an open mind is key. The points u make sounds so mature, I am not sure if u are really 15 . The most important observation u make about Singapore is correct. Everything is about money, how to raise money by taxing the public, be it ERP, GST, COE etc. The number of "foreign talent" will affect you when u get into the job market . It will be a lot more competitive and career advancement opportunities will naturally be lesser or u have to fight really hard for it. Unfortunately u are not old enough to vote but keep being aware of what's happening.

those who come here to work do not want to share what theyve learnt. if youre so unlucky to get a job with a foreign boss or supervisor, or colleagues, they wont teach you since youre a singaporean. theyre probably thinking' youre paid more , youre local, i am paid less, why should i teach you? and if youve in an intereveiw and the person interviewing you tellsyou' oh you are very qualified, no problem, everything is in order. we will contact you' AND the persons next are people of their race and nationality youre sure youre not going to get the job! happened to me. I was in the two above condiitions. the second one, the interviewer was s philippino married to a chinese. she told me cause i asked her. while she was interviewing me and telling me all this, she was eyeing the 2 philippinas in line next. few days later i get a call' oh i am so sorry you didnt get the jo' I said ' its alright and slammed down the phone. this is the culture nowadays. ! this is the reality.

@Sushi Saim It is not a big word but rather this concept of bumiputera or local protectionism is actually existed and existing in many countries and forms, present and past including present America (www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/05/24/immigration-and-isolationism-weve-been-here-before/#4efad40b7f3f). To start off, you are saying the bumiputera only favor the UMNO and royal elites but do you ever heard from some of your Malaysian Chinese or Indian colleagues complaining about how absurd that they cant get to the nation good university despite performing better academically back home? I am sure UMNO and royal elites will have the means to send their kids for better oversea education. Now it is my opinion but the Father of Nation became a PM is a blessing and he did hold election on 1968 after his 5 years term expired from 1963, while i strongly believed for an entity to be efficient, there should be only one leader, let the president be a figure only (i.e. Neighbouring country Malaysia only 1 PM and no president while Indonesia is one president and no PM or US 1 president and no PM). Finally thanks James Bond for highlighting basic needs like foods should be attainable if one willing to take the cheap jobs (again I am not talking about the "nice" food or "ERP", "electronic parking" the first author lamented on). P.S.: I am not sitting on high horse as what you might have think as I don't even have "ERP" or "electronic parking" to worry yet ;)

Pro economic policies will always disadvantage the elderly... 老了不中用了

He is a powerhouse in workers party

He’s a globalist. That means he will be similar to PAP, just a different package.

The way he talks doesn't tally up.

If government tackle well. This video will not be in KZfaq!

I partially agree with your stance. I think 4:10 made a good solution. Stop bringing in the foreigner workers and encourage the unemployed to start businesses. That's a good plan. The worst plan was from the worker's party. And concerning 1:40 it is SMEs that are responsible for 70% of the employment according to that man. So SMEs should be the main focus according to him, since big multinational companies can survive without government interference.

Thanks.

Please their pay comensurates with their responsibilites and capability, not excessive at all.

My son was jobless for 6 months after graduation even after sending hundreds of resumes... He was disillusioned with the government, that even with an honours degree from a local uni he couldn't even get a decent govt job...

Strange, According to Vivian this is not so So where is the disconnect ? Maybe Ivory Tower 4G signal not strong enuff, need to Upgrade to Huawei's 5G 🤔

@@annamariana8140 sorry to hear that but everyone has to go through this same phase in life, that first job is the hardest to get since you have close to no experience. There are multiple reasons why someone is not selected. Applying for the wrong job or unqualified for the job. Being bad at the interview. Bad resume. Usually a combination of the above. Personally, I think he should work in a part time establishment while on his job hunt. Not working during the interim really shows his character to the interviewer. That first job may not be the industry of choice but that was how I proved my point that I am not a time waster bum. Eventually even though I was not qualified without the required 2 years experience, I got hired because they were convince of my drive and willingness to do whatever it takes. I hope your son finds a job soon though, his approach got to be different. It is only after I started working which I eventually found out how a degree is literally a piece of paper.

I just heard CCS told PSP in the Chinese debate that we have no bargaining chips to renegotiate CECA with India. Somehow it sounds like someone is selling us on the cheap. So now I understand....how...to...vote. Don't talk about the future when there is hardly a tomorrow. The little man on the street will not take another shot for the nation...

Addison Kwek I think you’re response is the best and most considered one. There are many reasons why a business might choose to hire one person over another. This knee-jerk reaction I see in many comments of “lets blame foreigners for my unemployment” just reeks of xenophobia and deflecting blame for one’s own deficiencies to an easy scapegoat - the foreigner.

to add a few oppo MPs will not affect PAp +80 out of 93... pappy dun try to scare off people in voting oppo...

Sorry bruh...you are not getting the right definition of the PMET crisis...Singaporeans are squeezed out of their roles not due to lacking in skills but because it is TOO easy to get employment passes, esp by MNCs. Then they bring their entire village here and their spouses get to work here too for those in MNC positions

I think VB did mention 60k foreigners lost their jobs meanwhile local unemployment rate rises by 0.1%

@@intentbillion2479 The right question to ask is always...60k jobs lost in which segment and at which level? This moniker PMET is in itself a joke. P can earn hundreds of thousands and T can earn 10% of that. How is this a category? Employment data ranges from 20+ to 60+, how to read such data?

@@user-nd9rr5vn9h huh?

Good job man i support those two also

@Tay Jui Chuan Dearest Mr Tay, i would trust people with their heart and soul helping Singapore into a world class nation with serving the people first, there is always calculation of risk and reward and this risk is worth to be consider. after knowing WP mindset and objective i will take the risk.

i think is cos 3x 1.5 opposition so the 4.5 mins is to address the points raised by the opposition as well as give his own stance

This is not a good format for it did not draw out the best and worst of each representative.

It is like that, one eye is big one eye is small. Why waste time in such a debate? It is not a debate at all, it is a gather suggestion for the govt, good one copy, bad one later can know how to taruk the oppo.

Dragon52. Well said. All animals are equal, BUT some are MORE EQUAL than others.

@@wongfamily4013 lol animal farm legend

Tats why many young sporeans including old feel stressed n need to see psychiatrist at IMH. Feel stress in school work n workplace too.

Ya but how are you sure that WP is gonna succeed in their policy?

Some things just don't work out nicely

Life doesn’t revolve around one person, the world is always changing, and if ur unable to adapt to changes, or lower ur pride and re-educate urself for a better future. Then don’t go blaming others for it. The opportunity is right infront of you, and if u don’t seize it because of your own ego, that’s on u.

HALLO, he is paid $50k a month to "understand"

there'll be more debates to come

@@cliffxen5418 Suppose to be a debate and not a chit chat, isn't it?

@@user-nd9rr5vn9h Evidence?

@@ivanteo1973 New Fake Acc only 10 hrs old 🤔

are kidding me? Lim Tean!? this dude need to solve his own financial issue before talking about caring for Singapore.

@GABRIELE EA your point pls?

@GABRIELE EA Do You know how much other govt TAKE AWAY your CPF as "Taxes" and never give back to you ??? At least you still get to take back and use to buy house, I used some of my CPF to buy house and some keep to buy shares and these are not tax! There is no country in the world that can run a country so well like Sg with such low tax rate. I U are facing the stress of living in Sg it is not becos you pay too much CPF or income tax but you are in the wrong line and making a wrong living in Sg, go change a job or country lah, most of us are lving very well. I do pity you but you need help from within and not by PAP or other rich Singaporean to feed you.

Adrian Lee ur making 0 sense lolll

Thanks ..

Tan Marc.....well said

pls dont destroy Singapore

Agree with everything except Mr Francis feels like he's there for a coffee chat. So underwhelming.

@@supercritic100 Somewhat ... maybe he is reserving his bullet for later use. 😀

It is NOT always cheaper. The key problem is, it is TOO EASY to get employment passes esp for hirings in MNCs. Unlike Australia which demands applicants to state in writing what knowledge or benefits they are bringing to Australia. Down here is free for all.

Hi, do you have other examples of debates that are in a similar format? The ones I seen in UK debates and US presidential are pretty equal in time given to all party leaders, or even interschool debates.. As mentioned, no malice just really never seen this form of debates before

in a proper, formal debate, the speakers are allowed to rebut one another until there are no rebuttals to make. balakrishnan got 4.5 minutes to dissect others’ arguments, but not the other way around. it makes it seem as if his stance was the most valid, because it’s not contested. hence, uninformed viewers will be swayed to PAP’s side. this is how propaganda works.

paco and that’s because he is representing the ruling party. He is replying and rebutting the 3 opposition parties, who are all pointing against him. And now this is why I’m saying singaporeans shouldn’t be so shallow, so quick to judge. Everyone is questioning and fighting on how it’s unfair PAP has more time. But truth is, it’s 3 against 1, of course 1 should have more time to rebut against all 3 of them.

Nerissa Tok exactly!

@@Nerismores But the way it is formatted is like what paco said; made it seem as if PAP's arguements and rebuttals make the most sense for they were not countered by the Opposition and made it look as if they were wrong in their criticisms, ideas, concepts, etc. I rather they let an Opposition party representative speak and allow Dr. Vivian reply to said representative with the same amount of time and so on. It would make it seem more impartial and not seem as if PAP is making it seem they are right through by passing the last judgement, in that sense.

His best performance to date

lmao. PAP had to answer 3 opposition party dumb 🤦🏻‍♂️

Bruh 1vs3 bro

Ya me too I miss lky pap

Would be nice if you could write in proper sentences and make sense

@@kneegear5123 then you should improve on your reading skills, he may not have structured his words correctly. However, it's not that hard to understand.

@@kneegear5123 why do people think that they can become educators on a social platform... even a simpleton has a right to have a voice right?!

Me primary 2 drop out...but i got love for my country...i am 60 yrs old...and i have contribute to singapore...what i get my CPF LOCK DOWN...SO HAVE TO WORK TILL I DIE...Maybe u are living in comfort zone...u don't understand the poor...

But how do you determine that in practice? Only the business itself can decide what is best for their own business. Is the Ministry going to have to be inserted into the recruiting departments of companies and picking and choosing candidates?

Jamus my grc my man. Haha

That's because he belong to the govt party while the rest are opposition. Actually he vs the rest

PAP decides the rules

if they say last guy gets 1 hour, he will get 1 hour, because he is wearing white

Because he is 1 party answering to 3 party question, 1.5x3=4.5

That shows Singapore is not a fair and equality society.

pap had to answer the 3 of them

This isn't really a debate but suggestions to the government.

@@nicktasteless360 in other words: pap was given the chance to rebut the opposition but not vice versa

Nicktasteless But he didn’t reply/rebut them, instead he answered the question given in the beginning, 0:01, same as everyone

Exactly what kind of treatment is this. But lucky got dr chee the thanos and the jamus tony stark

And when foreign companies build a branch here, they bring over managing directors and some other high ranking officers from other countries. They offer Singaporeans executive roles as well but likely on a lower paygrade. So now do we turn them away because they want to bring foreigners in, or do we accept them since more jobs are being created for locals at the end of the day?

Yes.....Grab jobs that pays so low but the cost of living is so high. And yet our ministers draw millions?? Why do we have such suppressed wages.....if we a first world country?

Okay la don't emo

You missed a Lee, but all this while after Goh, we have had another Lee.

He will not like a racist party like PSP

We are not talking about jobs that needed you. We are saying many TALENTED SINGAPOREAN can do PMETs. Are you working as PMETs? What job you are in? I wanna work and complete with you! See who can do much better job with profit results. I got confident once I wanna resign. Your boss sure ask me to stay. I am singaporean. I work with passion, commitment, responsible to company's interests. Now I am driving grab. 8am till 9.30pm. Can you drive such long hours? If you are capable and got the right to criticize DR CHEE. you would be commenting in KZfaq. You will be sitting in parliament with them. If you really are capable. Your government sure would not let you come to Singapore. Stop thinking that singapore will fall without you. Respect and be humble my friend.

If having foreign PMETs make them so unpopular, why would they continue to welcome them. There must be some sort of underlying benefit right? It's not like their wages increase everytime they hit a new foreign PMET quota anyway, so why not just do away with thousands of them to make the people happy? Ever thought about it?

Singapore without foreign PMET will be like Batam and all MNC will just relocate to HK. SG losing its competitiveness is really good news for Shanghai, HK, and other potential hubs.

Whats the use of having rainbow 🌈 qualifications or scholarship if one cannot produce good outcome to improve the society n people's livelihood. Real life happenings with compassion n experiences are way more important than just a paper qualification.

Lim tean against 4 minsters.

Agree

@@6168lucky haha, is it a joke?

Fake news.

I desire to be a part of the morning commute to work, where I can see the commuters fresh/sleepy faces. We’ll then try our best to grab a seat in the train just to catch up on some sleep. Then, I can’t wait to rush out of the train to get my morning Kopi and walk to work smelling real good. - I wanna walk out of my building proudly during lunchtime with an umbrella, a lunchbox, an oversized purse like those middle-aged lady that I long to be and a company lanyard around my neck screaming that I am employed. I wanna feel the rush to have a quick lunch and head back to work with a food coma. I wanna feel the late afternoon blues when my mind will be filled with my greatest dreams - naps... I wanna have to say, “see you after work”. I wanna have a chance to participate in the evening commutes, where everyone’s on their way back home & on their phones, complaining to their loved ones about their day at work, while having a grumbling belly and wishing for a bath. - Well... 4 hours before we’ll have to head to bed and wake up again before the sun rises. Oh, I’d love to be a part of this beautiful, yet an unreachable dream.

You might want to practise listening again or were you munching on chips and cola with 1 eye on K drama while they lay out solutions? Im not crazy about Oppo BUT let's be fair and give credit when credit's due. They have next to no real data, you sld try working out a solution while blind folded.

🙈🙉🙊 puppy 👍

Not sure if you've seen the full video before commenting, all oppositions were given 1.5mins of air time to summarise their proposal whilst Dr. Balakrishnan was given 4.5mins to refute them. While i agree the representative from PSP spent most of his time criticising the PAP, Dr Lim of WP and Dr Chee of SDP gave a clear and articulate SUMMARY of their proposal. Dr Balakrishnan still did not address the foreign workers problem, in fact he totally dodged the question, which in fact is what most singaporeans are angry about.

@@user-nd9rr5vn9h woww after Lky is gone, you want to introduce high handed politics again... Just be democratic will you, just becoz you support pap, oppos are evil... You are the evil, dangerous n malicious hate promoter

@@user-nd9rr5vn9h I think you're the one that should be inside...spreading lies n hate. What are you so scared of? Don't try to shove down our throats with pap propaganda..we are not living in the past with the old man... Times have changed, people are wiser and smarter.... With social media, it's as different ball game.. people are not scared or intimidated by threats like yours... Why are u still here, shouldn't you be out there putting up pappy banners?

He really impacted whole debate LA.just simple question haha .. He Is legend.. They say flasehood but online artcle publish it not his fault .. But that really impacted that pap would not increasing to 10 million so now Singaporean has relief now.. We need more Oppo .. Vote him in parliament we need this kind of strong leader. More,voice n question more they will scared to implement. .morever Dr Chee have even not won single vote yet haha.. 20 over years been in politics he was not given a chance I feel pity to him ..

Dr Chee , Well speaking tonight, unfair to hv only 1.5 mins to him, very dirty game terms in this debates, they are not opposition, they are performing alternative voice and policy , well done!!!

It isn't the best you have seen from a candidate, but it's the best he has done so far himself.

To me dr chee is very direct and point blank. He knows his stuff he definitely not those softy politician kind of guy he wants to change the society to be better. And with regards to PMET that is a big worry for us locals. Even the three parties are kind of like joining hands and saying same langauage in directly