Frame 1 appeal is too strong

That move is unblockable and is plus against everything.

Lol had me weak for a sec

Unpunishable on block and plus fifty on hit

One hit kill

Kabal was using two moves and he actually is good because pretty everything he does, he does great But I knew since I noticed Cyrax what was going to happen exactly, and it didn't disappoint, Cyrax is the combo master of MK

Cyrax has a few broken moves actually, down 4 (which is like a sweep dash kinda) his bombs are well u saw, the net is also ridiculous and his standing 2 is one of the best anti airs in the game, cyrax is great overall, kaball is the best rush down character and the best zoner tho he has like 10 of the best moves in the game

same, I was so ready for it to be the instant air gas blast lmao

is this the new yugioh archetype meta?

My head canon is that Lord Knight is just JMCroft's Stand(who just happens to run his own very successful and good channel).

Don't forget his super that is done via wall dive and does good damage. XD

@@naejimba The absurd part about that super is that the move, like all command grabs in SF2, doesn't actually come out unless it hits, as it doesn't have any whiff animation. Even if Claw spams the super input, he doesn't actually lose his meter until the super lands. Claw was quite the privileged bastard back in the day, wasn't he. XD

so many options. this is the player expression theyve taken away!

@@the_bookworm8281 Ngl the unwasteable super is something I wish Vega/Claw would've kept, especially in SF4 and 5 where he sucks. That probably still wouldn't be enough to make him viable in those games but it'll at least be something unique that's good for him. The way it is in ST is kinda jank though so maybe instead of having an auto super for free, they could make it qcf x2 out of wall dive so it can still be baited but the meter won't be at risk of being wasted until after he's already in the air.

I figured it was hyper vyper but his gunshot is extremely underrated.

God Air Hyper Viper is dumb.

As a Cable main myself, I'd say the aerial Hyper Viper Beam is the cherry on top, not the sole reason why he's top tier. His tools are very solid overall and syncs well with many characters, whether he's on point or as an assist. The Hyper Viper Beam is the reason he can punish most mistakes. But to facilitate that, Cable also builds meter quickly and safely if you know what you're doing. Those grenades and aerial gunshots are downright obnoxious, while controlled use of the regular aerial Viper Beam can just chip away and build meter safely, with any hits that land becoming an easy full screen hit confirm for a super cancel thanks to its very generous cancel window.

What is "SOL"?

@@luischeco3009shit out of luck

@@luischeco3009 SOL Goodman

I can confirm FF1 Andy's Zaneiken is op as hell! Glad to see someone got the frame data on it too!

@@Lichmassacre tung fu rue's clothesline was pretty bad too 😂

But can it convince Dad to come back with the milk?

Falco laser is also arguably an example. Falco has other amazing moves but without laser there's no way he'd be able to keep up with the top tiers in melee

​@@LloydTheZephyrian I don't think anything is that strong...😭

Bair is broken but I don’t think she would be top tier without rest. It can kill at 0% and can be confirmed from most of her moves. There’s no puff without rest

@@trashman1791 peach float is another good one. she has no safe aerials, almost no options from ledge, horrible neutral, and severely nerfed recovery without it

@@mattpk1609 i stole your comment and made it funnier and got 600 likes and a heart im so sorry

@@Micha-Hil😂😂

What’s a Mortal Kombat? Is that an Arc Sys game I missed?

Funny enough Deadly Alliance is probably the most balanced MK to date 😭

​@@destructo3457 Drahmin tho.

​@@AlriikRidesAgainAlso Bo rai cho.

@@destructo3457Eh, not really. It’s definitely top 5

Jup, it’s a weak take

I don't think he is any easier to stun than shotos, and also he has the same damage factor as most characters in yhe game, e.g., shotos, Guile, DJ, Dhalsim, Dictator, etc. I've never seen evidence showing combos that only stun Claw: what I did see are combos that fail on him due to having a skinny hurtbox.

Good? Sure. Top tier? No. Without walldive, his gameplay becomes more stilted, he starts lacking in damage output (his buttons do below average damage), and he'll just have a bunch of straightforwardly losing matchups - eg. Honda is only okay because of walldive. He'd probably start having issues with Chun and DJ, and we don't know how Dhalsim would end up since atm the matchup is just walldive Sim to death because he's beyond free to it. The basic shell is solid, but low damage output and a bit nickle and dimey. It's good enough, but not in the same tier of power as Chun, Sim, O.Sagat or Boxer. Not even close. Ryu and DJ might be arguable. If you want proof, go watch the matches of a player called ARG. He's one of the best Claw players in Japan and often decides to play without walldive, and loses so much value and so many rounds to just playing more stilted and lacking in damage. _"He has WAAAY too many things that are safe on block"_ Being safe on block is completely unremarkable in ST. His backflips aren't safe, they last 30 and 50 frames respectively, both have 9 vulnerable frames at the end. Good for dodging a thing you know is coming, but perfectly punishable. Scarlet Terror, the thing you call a damaging backflip, is -12 or worse. _"Certain matchups he doesn't want to go up in the air, yet he completely dominates without it."_ Yeah, and that misses the point: Claw is good because the matchups where he can't walldive happen to be matchups that he can play without the dive and do well. But that doesn't describe all matchups. There's a bunch where he walldives because the honest gameplan just loses horribly or is disadvantaged, but walldiving comes out even or winning. To illustrate, let's reverse the argument: You could remove everything from him except walldive since that alone lets him play a versatile neutral game. He could play more versatile, but doesn't even need it because one move is that good. Would walldive-only Claw be top tier? By that argument, yes. Except he'd have a 0-10 Blanka matchup that anyone ever could just fraud him out with. Walldive is busted, yes. The rest of Claw's kit is good, yes. But it's them rounding each other out that makes him top tier and ensures he has play in any matchup in the game.

@@Komatik_ he beats Honda by jumping back hp. Now if they remove barcelona AND fix the terror store bug, I may agree he would be just high tier (Ryu, Guile, Fei, etc.).

Johnny from Guilty Gear: Strive comes to mind instantly. Bro really did benefit from step dash having its recovery reduced and grounded Mist Finer inflicting a hard knockdown.

Nobody really uses her tether at high level. It has a few good setups with it but it's very much an afterthought.

Whenever a Baiken tethers me, I get a little confused I am Potemkin I want to be in front of you, so like . Thanks for letting me skip the getting in phase?

@@AnthanKrufix "nobody uses tether at high level he says on a video with LordKnight in it lmao

That's more of a gameplan thing. It doesn't make her broken. It's a good move, but it's predictable.

Your opponent can use the tether against you if they guess right. Namely Potemkin. he can just spam 2p until tether breaks or just POTEMKIN BUSTAH you

I don't mind him being able to launch into the air; I don't mind him being able to put people in a 50/50 guess... after all he is a villain and it FEELS cheap which is appropriate. The issue I have is if the opponent guesses right, not only can he not be punished for it, but he STILL gets to do it again. It just needs a way to be punished and I'm down with the cheapness.

I love vega BRING HIM BACK

Wall diving and save with his glide kick. That is pretty neat.

To add to this, Doctor Doom, Foot Dive.

I don't think it counts because she had other equally f-ed up shit. Kuma on other side compared to Panda was 3 tiers above her only because of the special mid Bear electrics. Devil in Tag 1 had mid, mid safe launcher and safe hellsweep and would've been borderline useless without them.

@@ametozukumazu6073 Yeah, Azucena's running 3,2 was just part of what made her so good initially. Kuma getting an "Electric" differentiates him from Panda so dramatically she's damn near pointless. The Bears actually that bad in Tekken 8, in general, but Kuma just invalidates Panda now.

No thank you! T rights

You and JMCrofts always manage to bounce off of each other in such a natural way. Just two bros talking about stuff in fighting games that they find interesting.

While we're talking about Marvel VS Capcom, I would like to add Zero's Songenmu to the list.

I'd argue even without the wall dive he would still be busted AF. They gave the character with the fastest walk speed the 2nd longest reach lol. Way too many things are safe on block, and he has the backflips that can both avoid all damage and deal damage at the same time. Seriously wtf? XD

@@naejimba Backflips don't deal damage but I concur. This guy can poke well, move fast, jump fast, dodge weird throw situations because of his Scarlet Terror, AND HE CAN NEUTRAL SKIP TOO?????! I like Claw. His wall dives are fun. He's fun. But why would they ever design someone like him? It's not like they have different health levels like in later games. I can barely even name drawbacks for him. He's... tall? He... can't throw fireballs? Not that it matters, he's worth 10 fireballs. To think that Old Sagat (who *hasn't* paid for his top tier crimes) and Akuma are better than even him is truly a testament to how horrible balance was back then.

I’d be down if Knight talks about more than just anime fighters

@@camgoodkicksLK being an anime specialist, while JM being knowledgeable on the footsie fighters is why they make such a good duo. Together they cover nearly the whole spectrum.

@@TenjinZekken JM is knowledgeable on pretty much every fighter, including anime, while LK seems to only care about the latter category. They’re not covering the entire spectrum because JM already does that. It’s more like the entire spectrum + even more anime. But that’s just imo

The two names is why colloquially he's called claw. For those who don't know, in Japan, Balrog was M Bison, a play on Mike Tyson. Bison is Vega, Vega is Balrog. There were...reasons that calling the boxer M Bison was problematic, so the names were all cycled. To avoid confusion, all the characters has generic names in international conversation or casts. I believe they were boxer, dictator, and claw. You can still see in japanese SF6, that Bison is actually Vega.

Minecart is a bonkers move. Like Block is really good but it is something you have to get used to with labbing. Everything about Minecart is absolutely nuts