#chargepoint #electricvehicle #electrician In this video I install a Charge Point Electric Vehicle Charger and new 50-amp 240 volt circuit on the exterior of a home in Oceanport, New Jersey.
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@djr1147211 ай бұрын
Good video. One minor point that is not that important, but the communication cable you mention at 13:39 is to enable the charger (the EVSE box you are installing) to communicate to the car and negotiate the max charging current. Depending on the circuit you install that charger (EVSE) on, it can provide between 16 and 50 amps, but it has to be able to communicate that limit to the charger build in to the car so that it limits the current appropriately.
@Ryan-en7sl11 ай бұрын
Great video! As a 3rd year apprentice I really learn a lot watching guys like you with years of experience. I have so much to learn! The best part of your channel, and what makes yours unique, is that your one of the only electricans where we can watch you work, start to finish; you also explain things as you go, which is wonderful.
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@TimboStang7111 ай бұрын
Yea man, suck all that knowledge in from the older more experienced electricians. Best way to learn imo. That's how I was taught, 21 years later still learning new stuff
@TEDOTENNIS11 ай бұрын
Ron, fantastic video! Thanks for sharing.
@pawelelektryk298511 ай бұрын
nice,clean work as always.Youre a real professional.
@ChargePointnetАй бұрын
Looking great, thanks for sharing Ron! ⚡
@electricalronАй бұрын
Thanks for noticing!
@kentbassler50378 ай бұрын
RON Nice and Clean Work.
@zekenzy648611 ай бұрын
Great Video. Good Job. Nice Work. Thank you for sharing
@qcsupport259411 ай бұрын
Those built-in lever nuts!
@soundsoul88277 ай бұрын
Proffesional Job~!!!
@jrpritchard162211 ай бұрын
great video RON as always you help me to improve on my work like the pvc board that you use to mount the device too great tip make for clean job ill be using that for sure be safe keep sharing videos
@Bill-mh6hh11 ай бұрын
Nice job as always ron I like that it's hardwired and outside of the garage. I've seen too many horror stories of plugins inside the garage
@TimboStang7111 ай бұрын
Few years back i did bunch of ev chargers for Carvana locations and they got us these same chargers from charge point. I loved them, super simple hook ups and very fun to do. Keep up great work ron. Dont stop making videos 😅
@brianbeasley72709 ай бұрын
Love your work, Ron. I just recently installed one of these same units. I liked the crimps on the charger cable side so I purchased a hexagonal crimper and put ferrules on the supply side. Given the snap down connectors, it really made a nice electrical connection with no deforming of the #6 conductors and #8 ground.
@perspicator57792 ай бұрын
Good tip Brian!
@ajrichardson8011 ай бұрын
Why didn't you swap out to a 60 amp breaker to get the full 48 amp 11.5kw of power?
@theseattlegreen187111 ай бұрын
If that car charger draws 48 amps then by code he needed a two-pole 60 amp circuit breaker. He was not allowed to use the two-pole 50 if that charger draws 48 amps
@adrianjurj3966Ай бұрын
Yeah 48 amp to 60 double pole
@digitaldistorted4640Ай бұрын
@@theseattlegreen1871 obviously this is an old comment, but yeah I was wondering the same thing - my understanding (i've got this charger on order and will be installing it or having it installed shortly) from the research is that the device allows you to set the ampacity delivered based on your installed circuit, so it is "okay" to install it with a 50 amp breaker, but the user should not set the ampacity on the charger to the 48a setting and should stay at 40a/9.6kwh. The charger will even allow a 30amp setting if that's alll your wiring is for. So, IMO, a 60 amp non-GFCI breaker on 6 awg seems like the way to go to enable the maximal charging output to a vehicle. Technically, you can even set it to a full 50 amps to get that 12kwh speed, but htat requires a 70/80 amp breaker and associated wiring.
@Lanceb13111 ай бұрын
Another great video IMO! Can't wait for the next video! 😊
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
More to come!
@AngelMartinez-me1bf11 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see! I just installed one of those yesterday.
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@joe-edward10 ай бұрын
Nice work! I really like the content you're putting out. I wish you worked in Jacksonville, FL, I would hire you to upgrade my service. I live in a condo, and my panel has no Main! I couldn't believe it, and that discouraged me from taking on a lot of achievable homeownery projects. love that you are thorough and thoughtful about the work you do. That is a great quality in a contractor and a person. I look forward to the next video. Cheers!
@Glowbetraveler2 ай бұрын
Good information. Guy knows his stuff.
@user-le1kj1mq4b10 ай бұрын
Clean install.
@rossa72154 ай бұрын
I love the detail and quality of your electrical work. One thing I did not see is how you waterproofed the hole through the siding. From the video, it seems like water is free to run down between the PVC mounting plate, and between the charger base and that PVC. That all needs to be sealed to prevent damage to that wall.
@electricalron4 ай бұрын
Duct seal behind the mounting plate.
@Glowbetraveler2 ай бұрын
@@electricalron thanks. Thats Important info.
@yg70593 ай бұрын
thanks ron👠.
@thomascannan103311 ай бұрын
Hey Ron, I went ahead and got my G-Shock 5522, thanks makes a perfect work watch!
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Awesome! I've broken two iWatches at work so no more iWatch at work. The G-Shock has last for almost 3 years now. I love this watch too!
@AngelMartinez-me1bf11 ай бұрын
Great video ! What is that pvc heater ? Could you make a short about it ? Thanks!
@DanBurgaudАй бұрын
Nice charger... sleeeeeek and with a pivoting dock.
@jefferycherrysr656810 ай бұрын
Great work as a homeowner you give me courage to do things on my own, as usual great tutorial
@electricalron10 ай бұрын
I’m glad I could help.
@8chestnut45 ай бұрын
Great work and instructions! You could use a higher ladder so you're not on the top step.
@robertlivolsi572211 ай бұрын
Another awesome video Ron! That charger seems easy to install and understand. Definitely 10/10 compared to the ones I’ve done/seen
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Right on!
@arnieselectric00711 ай бұрын
Another excellent vide Ron...If you ever want a helping 2nd hand give some notice, I'd love to come over and spend a day to chat, and pick your brain awhile...😃😉😎
@mariosrecycling8649Ай бұрын
Beautiful wook😊
@nurantulgar829311 ай бұрын
Hi Ron, in California used PVC under ground not exposed.
@jaroadkill26011 ай бұрын
Great job on the installation. Question regarding GFCI protection, I understand that unit is hard wired but is it not an outdoor outlet that would still require protection? Example is the condenser now and of course receptacles.
@jeffmotta696611 ай бұрын
Great video, awesome job! I do a lot of these also and charge point has a great EV charger, just curious, why not use EMT rather than PVC? What size is that EGC?
@alukas17202 ай бұрын
You're the best!
@diymadness233011 ай бұрын
Some constructive criticism, You should outline your stand out box to the vinyl siding strategically and use a 4" grinder to cut the siding to the structure's sheathing making that piece of pvc stand out plate flush with the siding. It makes for a more professional finish and takes an extra 20 minutes of work. It also allows you to caulk the seal to the structure.
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
That’s ridiculous. A siding guy might do that but that’s not what I do. That invites water to get behind the plate and introduce mold.
@pinkiepie16568 ай бұрын
It looks better as is, without cutting the siding:)
@billlyl37253 ай бұрын
Nice video, thanks. Do you prefer or recommend outdoor installations over inside the garage?
@evanrocha546511 ай бұрын
Seems like a nice little charger. Do you have to get different ones for different cars? …love the videos by the way -fellow contractor from Boston
@jamese4982 ай бұрын
Great info. I wish you were in Myrtle Beach SC. We are looking for a level 2 ford charger to be installed. Says 3 guage copper wire. 220v 80 amp
@electricalron2 ай бұрын
Yes. The 80 amp figure has to be rated at 125%. This an NEC requirement. So, 80A x 125% is 100 amps. Make sure whoever you hire to do they understand that. #3 AWG Copper and a 100 amp double-pole circuit breaker. Good luck. Btw, my mom lives in Carolina Shores, NC. Just over the state border.
@tommycho906811 ай бұрын
Very clean job. Thanks. P.S. Mr.Ron. When you have time, would you kindly show me how to extend #6, bare copper from the active panel to the Ground Rod? Because the #6 bare copper was installed previously shot. Many thanks.
@tommycho906811 ай бұрын
@@Ampacityelectric what is the best way to reinstall bare copper without interrupted service? Thanks.
@tommycho906811 ай бұрын
@@Ampacityelectric Thank you so much.
@kentbassler50378 ай бұрын
RON should you have pulled a #10 nuteral ? maybe for frutteral 110 receptacle if needed?
@marcedwards24642 ай бұрын
Nicely
@trmentry11 ай бұрын
The Chargepoint has a built in GCFI. They say in their online documentation to NOT install with GCFI on the outlet if you use an outlet as that can cause charging issues. So on mine, which is just using a 220v 50a outlet, I did it without a GCFI outlet as didn't need the drama. Had no issues so far. But also in AZ, where water is rare.
@XXMETAL4LIF3XX11 ай бұрын
@@cengeb main point of gfci is for water as a concern in regards to location of outlets etc. the kid got zapped cause it wasnt grounded properly, they still would want an AC grounded properly. outdoor AC units are usually hardwired... kinda lost with your point ?
@Jesus_Strong10 ай бұрын
Looks perfect! I wish we can use PVC.
@krex58510 ай бұрын
Hi Ron. Just subscribed to your channel, great work. I love watching pro do the right work correctly. Thank you for that. In your videos you mentioned that it easier to work with single wires vs one all in wire. My question is. I am going to have a NEMA plug done in my house , here in NJ. Can we run 2 hot wires at 6 gauge , neutral 8 gauge and ground 10 gauge? Cant seem to find any code info on that. Thank you
@electricalron10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. That’s what I would use for a NEMA 14-50 receptacle.
@krex58510 ай бұрын
Ron, thank you
@willytangkere57846 ай бұрын
Nice CHARGER
@electricalron6 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan of Chargepoint EVSE!!
@DanBurgaudАй бұрын
0:45 like those used on boards . . . almost similar to those plastic chopping boards.
@sonyonlyman11 ай бұрын
What can I do with an extra 60 amp circuit in a garage? Replacing a water heater with a Tankless. 3-40 amp circuits were already pulled for the Tankless.
@randycarter20019 ай бұрын
When I do things like make the hole a little bit larger, I call it built in fudge factor. Gives some room to fudge the results.
@robertp4716Ай бұрын
No weatherproofing NEMA enclosure around that charger and mounting assembly?
@johnnyrayellison272411 ай бұрын
how do you test the charger after it's energized?
@stevencole733111 ай бұрын
Now can you access this charger on the side , top or bottom with 3/4 pvc in a surface application ? Nice install . I would think in the not to distant future you maybe doing these fulltime .
@stevencole733111 ай бұрын
@@Ampacityelectric so the ko on the bottom is for the cord ? Seems to limit the install
@stevencole733111 ай бұрын
@@Ampacityelectric To me that still says you can't use this charger for a surface conduit installation . The single bottom ko is used for the cord so the only other ko is in the back . That limits installs . You may not have the ability to enter from the back of the charger . For example if the only way to provide the circuit is the exterior of a building . It's fine to come in through the bottom and not sure why they don't provide 2 entry points in the bottom . Is it possible to drill out or ko punch another hole.? I also did not see a strain relief on the cord to hold it to the charger .
@stevencole733111 ай бұрын
@@Ampacityelectric perfect . Good to know .
@dmope229 ай бұрын
Nice install. is a disconnect switch required for a Car charger?
@electricalron9 ай бұрын
I believe anything larger than 60 amps.
@ronald4life16 ай бұрын
That Chargepoint is up to 48amp when hardwired. Any reason you didn't go with a 60amp breaker and instead I'm assuming set the chargepoint to 40amp only?
@johnh82685 ай бұрын
My question as well. Owner could mistakenly have configured the charger for 48A without knowing the required 60A breaker wasn't installed.
@aaron7411 ай бұрын
Are those PVC joints glued inside? (Is it necessary?) SimPULL is a trademark of Southwire. CerroWire calls it SLiPWire. It's a coating on the conductor insulation. Before that you used to have to use wire-pulling lube. Ha ha
@RandomTechWZАй бұрын
Chargepoint has a charger with a NEMA 6-50 plug. Would that not be up to code as it doesn't use a neutral?
@theseattlegreen187111 ай бұрын
I think the charger would have looked best mounted directly on the siding instead of the white Plastic Square mounting block. Simply because the car chargers color and the house color matches.
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
I asked the homeowner if he wanted it and he said yes.
@grifftech20 күн бұрын
Do you have any links to the zip it anchors and the type of board you used to attach the charger to?
@electricalron19 күн бұрын
they'tre at HD in there hardware aisle and the mounting board is a 1 x 8 piece of Azek.
@grifftech18 күн бұрын
@@electricalron TY!
@zacharylias867611 ай бұрын
Very nice install but seems like it would be much easier running emt is there a reason why you chose pvc?
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Because I like PVC better. Do you run EMT?
@zacharylias867611 ай бұрын
@@electricalron i prefer emt much more. Easier and quicker mainly due to bending. The heating blanket takes way too long.
@javgal11 ай бұрын
Question; what would you have done if the panel was full and didn’t have the breaker space?
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Change out the panel or add a sub panel and relocate a few circuits from the main to the new sub panel.
@javgal11 ай бұрын
@@electricalron thank you. Great job!
@jamesdaniel9476 ай бұрын
Why choose the 50 A breaker instead of a 60 A?
@electricalron6 ай бұрын
Because that’s what the owner wanted.
@frankyg69068 ай бұрын
Quick question, why did you install #6 on a 50 amp circuit?
@electricalron8 ай бұрын
Because that’s what this customer asked for.
@inthegarage.withalvaro.13446 ай бұрын
I have a question for you if a may , I want to connect a car charger in my garage, I already have a dedicated 240 v line with the plug right were I wanted, but the line coming out of the breaker panel have two black conductors and one bare metal conductor. Can I install this to a Nema 14-50? Thank you.
@electricalron6 ай бұрын
Most EV chargers require #6 AWG conductors and (1) #10 EGC. I’d say go for it!
@richstarstar11 ай бұрын
Good video Ron. A question you used #6 for your 2 hots and #10 for your ground, since I am still learning how did you come about using #10 for ground, is there some calculation you would have used. Could you have used #8 ? Looking forward to your response.
@richstarstar11 ай бұрын
@@Ampacityelectric Thanks
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Table 250.122 of the NEC.
@richstarstar11 ай бұрын
@@electricalron Thanks Ron
@rtsolution11Ай бұрын
@@electricalron 250.122 states not smaller then, so as to imply if someone was to buy bulk lengths, #6 for all 3 would be acceptable?
@electricalronАй бұрын
@@rtsolution11 the point is you don’t have to run a #6 EGC, you can run a #10 EGC.
@michaelchu16024 ай бұрын
I was quoted $1550 for hardwire installation for this charger like 2ft away from my panel and that price doesn't include the charger. I just want it right next to the panel and don't even need to go through walls. Is that high, normal, or low? I feel like its a bit too steep. I have a spare slot for the 240V double pole breaker so no panel upgrade needed.
@electricalron4 ай бұрын
Hey Michael, that does seem a little high if only 2’ away from the panel.
@joelhunter408211 ай бұрын
How come you didn’t use emt inside the garage to match the existing?
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Because I didn’t feel like it.
@ellenpecina98311 ай бұрын
Ronnie why are you not wearing safety googles to protect those beautiful eyes?
@taghvaee5 ай бұрын
why you didn't use BX instead of PVC?
@phox15155 ай бұрын
How much did this install cost (to the customer)? I just bought my first ev and I'm looking to get an outlet to plug my (included with car) nema 14-50 40 amp 250v portable cable into or a charging station like this installed. I'm sure pricing is different between new jersey and Texas (where I live), but I figured maybe I could get a ballpark estimate. My electricity at home is about 1/7 the price of public charging so it'd be nice to do it at home when possible.
@electricalron5 ай бұрын
Pricing can be complicated because each installation is different. This install was $1500 and the customer had the charger on hand prior to to the installation. It all depends on how far away from the main breaker panel the charger will be mounted. Also, I highly suggest this Chargepoint EVSE because it is able to be hardwired. The NEMA-1450 receptacle could become problematic because of the high-current draw. Hope this helps!
@phox15155 ай бұрын
@@electricalron it does help. I'll have to see if property manager / owner (I rent my house) will let me install either option.
@boomermatic603511 ай бұрын
I noticed there were no mains safety covers, what are the conditions when those need to be added?
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
That’s a fairly new NEC requirement that might not have code when this panel was installed.
@boomermatic603511 ай бұрын
@@electricalron right, but is there a situation where you are required to add them now?
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
@@boomermatic6035 Yes, but only when upgrading the panel.
@joelblauvelt5062Ай бұрын
Is PVC Conduit ok in garages as a rule? I see all garages in Florida piped in EMT. Anyone know if that's Code ? TIA.
@jvaldez9385 ай бұрын
How many amps was your breaker?
@electricalron5 ай бұрын
I believe this one was a double pole 50!
@perspicator57792 ай бұрын
Done a few myself. Not too keen on those clips as opposed to screw terminals.
@electricalron2 ай бұрын
They're new but I am fine with the Wago style terminations.
@johnnychang423311 ай бұрын
Is that a fast charger or it's just a regular tap for the electric vehicle?
@cyborgblowfish48757 ай бұрын
Supplying 220VAC to the cars built in charger/transformer.
@johnnychang42337 ай бұрын
@@cyborgblowfish4875 So is a regular fancy electric tap/outlet with lights.
@charletonzimmerman420511 ай бұрын
Isn't that QO Panel in "RECALL"? FIRE HAZARD??
@viviansr8629 күн бұрын
What is an estimate for something like this. We are in nj and need one installed..
@electricalron29 күн бұрын
$1500
@dajur14 ай бұрын
Are exterior chargers classified as an appliance and do they require a subpanel?
@electricalron4 ай бұрын
Electric Vehicles are covered in NEC article 625. You’ll only need a sub panel if there’s no room left in the main panel.
@dajur14 ай бұрын
@@electricalron I said subpanel instead of a disconnect.
@electricalron4 ай бұрын
@@dajur1 you only need a disconnect OVER 60 amps.
@dvohwinkel6 ай бұрын
I have the ChargePoint homeflex and the wifi on it broke after five months. They are sending me a replacement which you have to replace yourself or find a pro to do it for you.
@electricalron6 ай бұрын
It’s a shame but it happens.
@jamesdaniel9476 ай бұрын
Hmmm, I thought that it was a WiFi hard wire connection to the receiver, when it is too far for the bluetooth to work. Also, it was my understanding that the charger communicates to the car through the wires in the connector cable? I say that because that is the way Charge Point's public chargers work, as well as Electrify America. I could be wrong.
@fuzion430journey311 ай бұрын
Why not use 2 pole 60 ? Get full use out of the charger?
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
Because this is what they wanted.
@Jesse-ve5oo11 ай бұрын
Can I diy this or need it permitted and inspected?
@djr1147211 ай бұрын
Permit requirements vary based on where you are. That said, I do believe most places require a permit for this kind of electrical work. Most places though just require that the work is done to code and passes inspection, they do allow for the homeowner to do it as long as you can meet code.
@booSackk10 ай бұрын
I looked up the price They go for $1000 So how much would you charge for this service?
@electricalron10 ай бұрын
Pricing all depends where your panel is and where the charger will go.
@wirenut90629 күн бұрын
Nice job.. not a fan of the termination choice by the manufacturer esp with that load
@francismazanet27696 ай бұрын
What the hell you doing still in Jersey? We all moved to Florida! LOL
@electricalron6 ай бұрын
Yeah. 130 degrees in April. Good luck anyone I ever knew who moved to Florida moved back here in 2-3 years. There are a few expections.
@francismazanet27696 ай бұрын
@@electricalronThat's why God invented AC. My folks still live in Toms River. Oh did I mention no state income tax, and NO DMV inspections!!!
@electricalron6 ай бұрын
Yeah, we know. No pizza either. @@francismazanet2769
@peter-pg5yc11 ай бұрын
I dont like wiring exposed Id find a box for it all to go into with a lock..kids etc play with stuff.. get a smallvinyl box cut downto fit cable in out of sight out of mind..
@TheLostAdventuress7 ай бұрын
Need to seal that hole you made outside with caulking
@electricalron7 ай бұрын
But I didn’t.
@TheLostAdventuress7 ай бұрын
@@electricalron gosh you
@electricalron7 ай бұрын
@@TheLostAdventuress I used exterior rated duct seal.
@TheLostAdventuress7 ай бұрын
@@electricalron now I knew you are are pro
@adrianjurj3966Ай бұрын
You supposed tonuse a 60.amp breaker not 50 for full 49 amps
@SaludfitnessPUNTOcom11 ай бұрын
Hey ron any particular reason you dont use EMT, question is because i dont know how to bend emt myself and always feels im lacking knowledge because of always using PVC
@electricalron11 ай бұрын
It's easy to learn how to bend conduit. I learned by buying a bunch of 1/2" EMT and followed the guides in the Ugly's book. I also learned a bit in the US Navy. The more you do it the more you learn. I don't have a need to bend EMT other than in unfinished basements for surface mounted receptacles and 1900 boxes or maybe a sump pump circuit along a concrete foundation wall. It also rusts easily where PVC doesn't.
@kantgettwrite7 ай бұрын
Hi Ron love your videos. I want to install this charger in my garage and my panel is also located in the garage. My question is, do I need a disconnect as well for a 14-50 outlet? Is that code?
@flamedduck7 ай бұрын
@kantgettwrite read the comments. He earlier answered that a disconnect is only needed above 60 amps.