The very first LiveWire prototypes had the sound of F-16 jets , not sure why Harley did not keep the unique feature !

3 seasons on my Livewire love it

I don't have any personal interest in purchasing an electric bike, but I gotta admit I find them fascinating.

Not to nitpick, it's definitely waaaay cheaper to fuel an electric vehicle than a gas. However, the Livewire One has a 13.6kWh battery. Avg electricity rates in Georgia are 9.9 cents per kWh. So it costs $1.35 to "fill up". Maybe whatever you are referring to was referring to the per kWh rate.

Done it. Bought a Zero DSR with charge tank. But the Livewire is faster at charging, has slightly better range, easier to use dashboard, has much better regen, so I plan to switch to it or the Energica.

I'm not a Harley Davidson fans or a fan of electric vehicles, but I always say if there is an electric bike I choose, I pick the Livewire. Also love the videography were you put the camera in the bushes.

I love how you refered to Pokemon as Pocket Monsters, tribute to the proper japanese name

I'm sorry Chase, but there is no way that only costs 9 cents to charge. Unless Georgia has the cheapest electricity rates ever lol. That battery is 15.5 kilowatts. My battery on my zero fxs is half that size at 7.2 kilowatts and costs about 62 cents to charge based on my electricity rates here in Colorado. So your actual cost to charge at home is probably closer to $1.20 to $1.50. Which is still far better than your other motorcycles.

14kwh x $0.12 = $1.68 ---- The Livewire has a 15.5kwh battery with 14kwh nominal usage. That's about $1.68 USD to charge from 0-100%.

It's such a zen like experience on a silent bike and you can actually see and feel and smell the nature.

OC: these shifted episodes are legit. im glad you didnt get the range anxiety like you wid with motonosity and Dan, but man that was a good laugh lol

My commute to and from work would easily fit in a Single charge. But I'd also top off at work.

OC: We are no where NEER having a full EV society. The strip-mines for getting the lithium is worse on the environment then what cars/bikes put out. Our batteries aren't efficient enough or last long enough to make them worth while yet. You can't just pull a EV battery from the salvage yard and fix your car/truck/bike. In most cases you'll total the vehicle when the battery is dead. It's just too expensive to replace that large of a battery compared to the value of the vehicle. Now, if we were able to make more long lasting, more powerful, smaller batteries and; have a consistent, reliable, and efficient way of mining the Kuiper belt and other asteroids in our solar system then maybe it would actually be the right move. Until then, I'm not for it. We're just not there yet with range, longevity, and efficiency, or charge time. It takes way too long to recharge as opposed to filling up gas. Also, I did like how the Livewire rode. I did a demo day on one and it was very similar in feel to my FZ-09 in that it handled very similar and have had a similar power feel. It was fun but definitely more of a city short trip kind of bike.

Look, most rides are well under the range of a Livewire. I just bought one and I like it. I have found it interesting how many charge stations are available in my part of the state. Including rural towns. *** why don’t you recharge at work when you get back ? This is an absurd example of riding

Once everyone is electric, electricity cost will be ten times what it is today

Blood mountain is a great ride 💪

It definitely looks like a great bike. Once they get the total range over 200 miles in the real world situation, I think it will be a great option. I'm not sure why they chose to put the charging plug on top of the fake gas tank. I think it would be a much better location on the left side of the motorcycle somewhere around that fake tank on the side of the motorcycle so the hose isn't in an awkward plug in position.

City commuters at that price range do not exist… they need to speed up charging and build infrastructure… 🤣

Doesn’t Harley want like $20,000+ for these bikes. A lot better bikes for that type of money.

OC: Chase, I think something you should REALLY beg these manufacturers for, is hot swap battery stations. A standardized battery pack with stations would truly change how people view electric motorcycles. You could accept lower range if you could easily turn in your battery for a charged one. Stations could show how many they have charged on hand so you could plan group rides and stops. You could carry a spare, possibly. I use a Sur Aron to commute 30 miles every day and I have zero complaints. I can go easy on it and do the full commute. Or I can rip full speed if I charge at work. I absolutely love electric and know the weaknesses. The benefits outright the cost all day. I can rip a dank nooner in my neighborhood at midnight and nobody has a clue I did it.

live right outside of redtop, i love that place to go for a nice relaxing ride. The side roads are great for exploring and checking out lake Allatoona, you need to take something fun out to Brushy Mountain Rd about 30 minutes from there.

When I go for a ride, i do it to feel the breeze, not to wait in line with angry Tesla drivers

OC: The switch to all electric motorcycling would literally zap most of my joys when it comes to motorcycling. I appreciate that they’re an alternative, but they’re not for me in the least bit at this point in time.

Didn’t know you were from Georgia, I subbed bro

Who Else thought this Video was TOO LONG❓❓ I just FORWARDED IT TO THE END to get the Answers I needed 😂🤣

FWIW, I have a Rivian and including 300 mile trips I haven’t had to charge publicly since I got it minus a trip to orlando(10 hr drive) where i had to charge 2 times, once while I used the bathroom and grabbed a soda, then left, the other I grabbed food and charged while I ate, then left. So in reality , charging cost me zero time. So 99% of my charging has been at home, which is pretty convenient, tbh. For motorcycles I’ll miss the sound but also my ears will probably thank me when I’m older.

The fast charger does NOT use a J1772 plug as stated in the video, it uses a CCS plug. The J1772 is what you would use at home without the two bottom pins.

I owned a Harley Livewire for about a year. The bike's biggest downsides were the size and no active cooling on the batteries. You can only charge the bike at L1 or L3, not including a level 2 charger was a big mistake. The overall size of the bike felt to me like riding a 75% sized bike. It would be great for a smaller rider, but for the 6" and over crowd the bike is just too crunched up. EV is the future, however I won't purchase another EV motorcycle until they start actively cooling the batteries.

the reason I won’t get one any time soon is that I’ve never even seen any type of charging station in my area

OC: Looking fwd to a longer range before I make a full switch. Def an EV is a great option for a 2nd vehicle at this point

Oc: impossible, i live in rural southern oregon. The roads are absolutely beautiful around here. My road to town is probably more twisty then some have in their state. That being said im 110 miles from a “larger” city and buy larger i mean 80k lol there is 1 charging station there at a target. If im doing math right the range on the livewire is about 100 miles. Thats a short ride here in oregon. Most time we go out for a ride its 150-200 miles

I saw a Zero Motorcycle at a car show. I am doing research now on Zero and Livewire. There is one other electric motorcycle manufacturer but I forget who. We own an R1T, Ioniq 6 and Chevy Impala. We just sold our Diesel Sprinter Mercedes work van and our 2001 F150. We have never owned a motorcycle but I get a lot of questions about electric motorcycles at ICE/EV Cars and Coffees and electric car shows. Thank you for this content.

“Growing infrastructure of EV’s” You guys need to hire me as a writer at this point, no disrespect intended.

I was waiting for the deer to jump in front of him

So, I used to have an Energica Ego= with about 13-14 kwh battery, and to put about 11 kwh cost me about $5-$6 using Electrify america and paying the $5 monthly subscription that lowers the price (but I also have an electric car, so.... if you fill the bike 2 or 3 times, it makes up for it. I'd love to get this bike! Its on a different league than the Zero bikes, and cheaper than the Energicas. One good thing I used to do on the Ego was to go about 60-70 miles away to a coffee shop or restaurant, and leave bike charging while I grabbed brunch or lunch or dinner or something. Chase: TRY THE ENERGICAS!!!!!!! ALSO, i DO HAVE A CAR (kIA ev6) AND WITH THAT, i never FILL PAST 80%, MOST TIMES EVEN ON ROAD TRIPS i GO FROM LIKE, 5 TO 50-60% AND GO QUICKLY TO NEXT CHARGERS. reMEMBER THAT BATTERIES CHARGE FASTEST BETWEEN (USUALLY) 10-80%, foR EXAMPLE, MY CAR WILL DO 0-80 IN ABOUT 22 MINUTES, BUT WILL TAKE ANOTHER 30 MINUTES OR MORE TO DO 80%-100% SO YOU RARELY FILL TO 100% ON THEM. i PROBABLY COULD GO ALL ELECTRIC: gOT THE ev6 AS DAILY DRIVER CAR, GET A ktm fREERIDE e-xc AS A DIRT BIKE (ENDURO/CROSS COUNTRY TYPE BIKE) AND lIVEWIRE FOR COMMUTE AND SOME FUN RIDING ON WEEKENDS? (ALSO, TRACKS ARE ADDING FAST CHARGERS B/C TAKING evS TO TRACK DAYS IS BECOMING MORE COMMON TOO.

Outside of torque, electric motorcycle are everything bike riders don’t want. Charge times, quiet, heavy..... pass. Save the electric for the appliance of a car you commute in. People who spend 5k,10k,15k, 20k on a motorcycle can afford gas - and people who can’t afford gas can’t afford an electric motorcycle.......

I’d just miss the sound of the engine, if not to add to the experience but safety, the number of times I’ve had a car pull out and pull back in when they heard my exhaust 😅

long way to go

Nah. Sticking with gas powered bikes for a great number of reasons. Mostly just the feel, sound, and rider engagement.

You can buy a lot of gas for the 10k price premium.

It looks Good I want it 😃

OC: An electric bike makes the most sense for me, since I rarely travel more than 50 miles in a stint unless I'm haunting backroads, plus my commute is very short and my job has charging stations. But the price of an electric bike is too damn high. $23k!? I'd rather get a Pan Am if I'm shelling out that much

As soon as we can get past slow charging and more access to charging stations I'm A-Ok with electric rides

OC: I live in a small town, so making the switch completely isn't possible for me. Next to zero charging stations. And the ones we do have are in places I normally wouldn't spend much of my time. Which means any EV bike I get is purely going to be a to and from work Rider or a short commute Rider. With that said I could totally run an EV as a second bike. I'd run that one to and from work everyday and for quick rides on the weekends. That alone would save me nearly two to three hundred dollars a month in gas. Then I can hop on my loud obnoxious gas guzzling Raider and go on some nice long comfortable cruises.

Just finished a 2500 mile tour on my Livewire

They sound fun and great and all. But the giant push for everyone to go ev is 🤮. Deep down in the end I feel like they have a overall worse impact on the environment. No hate towards you chase 😊

to completely debunk one of your points... you dont have to run a gas tank to empty, and you dont need to fill it to full. Its no different for the electric.

Just plan where to go and where to change. NewZeroland can ride all day on his Energica and a lady road a LW 500 miles in one day in the rain.

With the talk of spending some time doing Pokémon, or enjoying time with nature, just imagine that time NOT in the nice sunny day of spring or so. How about that hour or so in winter, or in the rain, or freezing rain? Maybe a just simply cold and windy? How does that hour sound verses a couple minutes? Yes you will pay more, but you still go further and less time filling up with gas. Until they can make batteries have similar range and time to fill up as gas, electric is not up to the task of propelling our lives.

The thing is- Gas and emmisions aren't really factors motorcyclists think about. And for 30,000$, it's not saving you any money by any stretch. May as well just buy a regular motorcycle, plus an almost new car for that price....

AKF for an hour, That’s IF the charging station works and isn’t already in use.

Yea let’s charge it for an hour….. go to a town with a ev charger near the mountain charge for an hour….. go ride the mountain……. Come back to that town charge for an hour…… go home charge The only way this is even doable is if they can do quick charging

Chase just use your 220 outlet (or have one installed) and just wait for the stark varg. Livewire battery warranty voids if you DC charge it too many times. Stark will let you charge without risk of warranty issues. Just be patient. Harley is gonna be on the back end of electric bikes for trying to force their way into the industry just a lil too soon.

Oc it would be tough for me for my long tours but I live very close to the foothills in Denver, so I could ride that ev up there.

too little range for me, im starting to think a big heavy cruiser like a goldwing or Harley platform to carry bigger batteries would be appealing, 250 to 300 mile range would be perfect for me but im sure the price would end up being astronomical though 😵

While riding, I wanna feel connected to my bike, when I wanna connect with the environment I'll stop. And I cannot feel connected to a soulless whine.

Woooooo!!!!!

have to ask will it burn the rear tire not holding the brake

I would love one of this bike but tbh if is not sound is nothing the design is fantastic amazing is look very nice but no sound is nothing make same like this one but to have sound and I am definitely buy one 😉

I'll switch to electric when I can get a charge a quickly as a gas fill-up and as available as a gas station ;)

1 hour charge up? It was 103 degrees yesterday!!

one of the main factors when buying my naked bike was finding one with the classic four cylinder sound. I personally want nothing to do with a EV. i prefer the sound vibrations and feel of a big v8 in my car.. and watching the needle on my big tach on my bike

I noticed in your video you used extension cords to charge the bike. Doesn't it say not to charge your bike with extension cord or has there since been update to allow use of extension cords ?

The solution to give you many miles of freedom on open roads and not having to worry about running out of electric juice is to have a carrier installed then you could bring along a Honda portable generator and a Jerry can of gas...Voila👌

Quietness = death

Rode a demo event at the Rock Store in California....bike is great...price needs to drop to 16-17k , 22k price without electronic or decent suspension???...otherwise v2 verssion in the future if the company survives

Besides the bike, The helmet looks good! is it Ruroc? If so, how is the comfort and noise. 1/10 on both…

I just rode a zero and holy shit the torque blew my face skin back! I need that but in a gas bike 😂 wtf do I get

What's the point of having cake if you don't eat it? 🤔

The livewire was cool and I was looking forward to it back when it came out and they proposed the price to be something like 15k (about 19ish euros here). It came out and its roughly 38k euros here. Now it even became its own brand, ditching the harley davidsoness of the machine totally away. Now I dont really want it anymore. Plus the range is bad, my 48 is bad, but takes only few moments to fuel it, but an hour!? jeez.

Might need to check those numbers chase.. not getting much electricity from 9 cents I’m sure not a full charge anyways 🙄

You must be joking as I don’t consider around 100 mile range viable for real use. On a typical day I ride down to my buddies house which is 57 miles. He is waiting for me as we plan to up into the mountains. Typically we will ride for 2 or 3 hours and stop lunch. Then ride back to his house, then on to my house. I would need to recharge 5 or 6 times. There are not any charging stations and if there were I would be sitting around for 6 hours charging. I would be better off with a good bicycle as it is much easier to push up a hill. What your electric motorcycle is a city boy toy at best.

Heayy can you do a vid on one of the new 2022 ZERO BIKES

I just can’t do it, I like to jump on and go. By the time my bikes are on E I need to stretch take a piss and then go back at it. Charging station are not common like a gas station. Besides all that I spent an insane amount of money making my V4 exhaust sound like noise porn, which is awesome 😎

OC. This isn't the time to go electric. Aside from the initial cost being outside most peoples' budget, the infrastructure for recharging does not exist. There are not enough stations when out on the road and the power supply would be diminished when being charged at home overnight. When you pull into a station with a ICE vehicle, even if all the pumps are in use, you know you will have a 5-10 minute wait to get an available pump. Refill your vehicle for, say 10 minutes, then you can continue on your journey. The same scenario with a EV vehicle, even if you were lucky to get a recharge point within the same 5-10 minutes, you then have to recharge for a lot longer than 10 minutes to maximise your range. Every example of home charging shows how easy it is to recharge. What about the homes with multiple cars? Regarding the cabling and recharge points, how will recharging take place in apartment blocks and office/factory parking? How will the power companies deal with supplying power to charity ride events or rallies? Touring on EV bikes would need recalculating- daily range and mileage would be decreased due to time spent recharging. If we all went EV, power companies will raise the price of recharging which negates the claim of price advantages against ICE. If you want, you can buy a EV bike for commuting and short rides. But the chances are you already own a ICE bike that does that already- with the bonus that if you wanted to, you can go further afield without wasting time at stations recharging.

Do you tape a couple of cards to the spokes, so you can sound like you have exhaust?

this has very little range compared to the energica ego rs which has an estimated 240 miles of range.

When those things were on sale in the UK the price tag was about £30,000. You can take as much synchronicity as you choose, but it still doesn't werk with a 1970s calculator. Nearly £2 a gallon here. I think this is the heralding of the demise of western civilisation. The only one I'm used to , dammit! Honda Cub, please, NOW, with wind deflectors.

Loud pipes saves lives? 🤔

I think that's looks gonna be better if use Sportster's lamp...

My uncle spent 25k on a zero n it’s awesome tbh

Easier to flow the electrons than shovel the coal I suppose.

23$ to fill up the tracer? Must be nice being free :3 23$ in Greece doesn't even get me half a tank. Euro moment. T_T

Only thing is the range on these electric motors is still pretty poor. They are great for running errands around town, but any distance greater than 30 miles you are gonna want a combustion engine to get you there without wasting hours to re-charge.

The price and lack of being able to switch gears . Is what is keeping me from getting an electric moto..

OC first of all, I have questions. How many of those mini cupcakes did you have to eat before you could eat one without laughing? Now that we got that out of the way, I have a three mile commute and could easily use an all electric. Even with lunch and the gym I could have no struggles making this work. However, my $3,000 dr-200 can do it for less than the $23,000 starting price for a live wire. Is it as fun? Sure, but in a different way. Do I already own it and have zero payments? Absolutely. It's not time yet for me.

So would this be a good motorcycle for Uber Eats?

OC: Definitely considering a EV 🏍. Even though just got a MT09 SP. Gas ⛽ prices for running the mountains all day and my daily commute is kinda ridiculous. Would love to see a comparison between the Livewire 1 and the new 2022 Zero SR. As the Zero SR enters at a lower price than the Livewire. At least lower entry price as the pay to play updates on the Zero SR do put it near the Livewire price.

I’m from upstate NY what would you say is the best place I can get a bike from?

Takes about $18 to get her up from 0-100 in Northern Virginia

Why can’t Engineer put a alternator on them vehicles for it always be charged

i made 7000km+ in 3 months on energica 21,5kWh - (16-17kWh usable) - what I can say - if they do ev moto with 25kWh usable + liquid cooled battery pack - (20min 0-70%) then a lot more ppl can switch, long trips are paing - especially on hot days when charging is limiited do about 50-60% normal speed :(

Anyone know how tall Chase is? I’m trying to figure out how well I’d fit on an MT-07 or MT-09. I’m 6’3” 185 pounds. There are no MT-07 and 09’s for sale here in AZ(sold out). So I can’t just go sit on one, I will have to put a deposit in at a dealership for one. But I want to know how well I’d fit on the bikes

I'm excited about the prospect, but the battery life and charging infrastructure just isn't there yet. That said, electric bikes are *amazing* to ride and I look forward to the next generation to see what they offer. Great video, keep em coming!

😂 Live wire for those who like to hear their labias flap in the breeze.

The only way I would get an electronic motorcycle is if it had 1,000 mile range for 1hr 14$ charge..

OC - Can someone who is better than me at math do the figuring? At roughly $24k after TT&L, and factoring in average electricity prices, how likely is it that you ever “break even” in any sense of the term with proper consideration given to the battery bank’s expected life span? Also, I believe a typical 5-year finance term and its subject interest rate should be considered in this calculation with respect to how the battery bank’s life expectancy affects the potential of “getting your money’s worth” when compared to a gas-powered bike that retails for literally half the cost of the Livewire One. Any takers?

This bike would be perfect for me because I work at a dealer and we have fast chargers everywhere

Umm. It costs more like 9 cents per kilowatt hour. The bike has 14-17 kwh. That would cost you $1.26-$1.53. Still a great deal compared to gas most of the time. But it's not nine cents. Also I'm not sure where in the US is only 9 cents for a kWh, that's a great deal as well. It's around 12-13 cents in Oregon.

But most people forget, where do you think electricity comes from? Most comes from coal and nuclear power plants