It is, the problem is who reads history books? Who teaches from history books?

Community Colleges do teach about it. All is you have to do is raise your hand and participate in the discussion

Lots of BIPOC history needs to be in history books enough white/male washing. These YT videos a fucking educating me at 52 years old!!!! WTF????

Eso pasa en muchos lugares primer mundistas para mantenerte bruto e ignorante. la verdadera historia nunca la enseñan. Así se pueden dividir los pueblos y acabar de joderlos... Tenaz

@@pumasgoya nadie. Porque les conviene que hasta olvidemos nuestro idioma....cuando esa tierra era de mis parceeros a mexicanos

Rachel Thomas This is truly disgusting what they did to that community ....Did you also teacher the story about the history of Manhattan Beach? Same thing happened to African Americans who were force out of Manhattan Beach in 1920. It was called “Bruce’s Beach”

@@detroitclawsnailtech5482 Yes, all of our students know about Bruce's Beach.

See I look at it different. By the time the Dodgers bought the land it was already abandoned so it's not fair to blame them when they land had been designated as a housing project. That's all on the politician's beforehand. Walter O'Malley saw a beautiful stretch of land inquired on it and the rest is history

@Rachel: Thank you! I am 87 yo, grew up immersed in the stories of rip-off all over California. The same Chavez Ravine pattern occurred everywhere under the guise of sugar coated propaganda to undervalue Mexican communities. I witnessed the destruction and taking over of many Barrios in LA , Orange , and Riverside Counties . .The history of these times focused on "who" and "how" these ripoff occurred will embarrass many in the dominant society. We Mexican-Americans bear some of the blame because some of us served as Judas Goats in the ripped off processes. I do not fault the evil doers because many worked under lofty assumption of doing good. Mostly , I feel resentment at our own "vendidos" who profited from the rip off processes. Also, the times made us Mexicans feel inferior... and just passive to the rip offs (Chaves Ravine, only had some resistors and c they were. Powerless). Again, it was not just Chaves Ravine! It is just the tip of a huge iceberg. You are a good person...thanks for what you did.

@@meteor2012able 🙏🏼Blessings to you.

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enjoy your memories, just remember the price

We all are heartbroken.

This is something that should be shared , these dodges fans get so crazy, if they only knew. I’m a Padre fan and will be sharing this info with them the dodger fans wen they come into the live chat. History is important

@@sandratheprocraftinator945just remember the padres started in Hollywood. They were the Hollywood Stars then they moved to San Diego and became the Padres in the pacific coast league. The Padres owner is the nephew to Peter O’Malley, I hope that name rings a bell to you.

This is why all Dodger fans should become San Francisco Giants Fans. We moved from New York at the same time the Dodgers did, HOWEVER we didn't steal someone's land to build our stadium. No, we filled in part of S.F. bay and built our place (Candlestick Park) were no one was. When you do the right thing, good karma comes to you, as the Dodgers found out last week.

@@GeeBee909fk the bay and the vigiants.

I find it funny how Mexicans are the biggest die-hard Dodgers fans, yet they don't know the history of that stadium and the removal of this Mexican neighborhood/ community. As a Mexican American, I can't stand for profit corporate sports. I'm baffled how the working class Mexican American citizens bend the knee to this out of state baseball franchise.....

If you grew up after 1960 in Los Angeles, u either had friends of friends that knew somebody that had family up there...u should still see the dodgers at the ravine....

Perhaps is because in school dont teach real history but fake

MY GRANDMOTHER OFTEN TALKED OF PALO VERDE AND I HAVE PROOF THAT SHE WAS THERE POSSIBLY AROUND 1910+. MY DAD WAS BORN in 1915, AN AUNT BORN in 1919. ANOTHER AUNT BORN 1912 SOMEWHERE AROUND 7TH STREET. THE FAMILY SETTLED IN NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIF. AROUND 1928. I WS BORN IN THAT SAME HOUSE IN 1941...

Yo soy Chavez my abulita told me the story I was born in 59 told the story I'm proud to be a Chavez

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"Chavez Ravines" are not a thing of the past. They are happening today. I am a Norwegian American. My ancestors came to a western city one hundred twenty-five years ago. I can't give details because I was forced to sign a quit order. My ancestors were real estate developers who gave a large piece of land to the city for a park in order to have a good quality of life for families in the city. One condition was that alcohol could not be sold or consumed in the park. If the purpose of the land was changed and alcohol was sold on the land, the land would revert to the nearest living relatives unless we gave the city our permission for the change in purpose. Well, the area around the park changed and homeless people started using the park for a place to stay during the day and camping at night. There was drug use and other crimes being committed in the park. However, in most cases the homeless people were the victims not the perpetrators of the crimes. The city wanted to sell this land to a developer to build a stadium, condos, and boutique shops as well as restaurants and bars. Since alcohol was going to be sold, they asked me, my sister, and cousins to sign a quit order. Most of us were willing to do that, but three of us wanted land near by to be set aside for a place for the homeless folks to live (affordable housing) and receive city services, so they might have an incentive and opportunity to live better lives. Also, their children would have a safe place to live. One third of the homeless are single parents with families. The city threatened us with a lawsuit if we didn't sign the quit order and we would be charged with court costs if we lost. If they lost, they could appeal all the way to the state supreme court. They knew we couldn't afford to pay a lawyer for the years it would take to adjudicate the issue. The fact is that Chavez Ravine is not something "we should never forget" because it is happening now. We just have to open our eyes and be aware that people with little means are having there lives and homes destroyed every time a sports stadium is built in or near an urban area.This video is a timely reminder of the way working class and marginalized folks are prevented from living quality lives because of "economic development, progress and the desire for the rest of us to be entertained." Great story, great video.

Mr. CHAVES, WAS FROM THE CHAVES FAMILY, IN NORTHERN NEW MEXICO. HE OWNED THE PROPERTY, AND, HELPED, THE PEOPLE OF THE AREA GET STARTED, AS, A HISPANIC,MEXICAN, NIGHBORHOOD. Many people migrated, gro Northern, NEW MEXICO, IN THE 1840'S , TO START NEW COMMUNITIES IN California. Read, about the SPANISH TRAIL. 1840'S.

The neighborhood was not lost. It was taken.

@@richardalbertson3964 yes we know you are an immigrant

I am originally from Orange County. I live in Las Vegas now. I wasnt even born when this happened but I know the story. I find it sad how some blame the dodgers and some defend them by saying it's not their fault since they acquired the land after the fact. But I think that's besides the point here. I wouldn't support them simply because of where the stadium sits and what happened there. Would you be okay with me buying the little building that Reuben Salazar was shot in and opening up a gun shop there? It's not as complicated as everybody makes it out to be. Its actually very simple. It's about respect and support. The Native Americans don't shit all with their sacred burial grounds. Also I'm pretty sure had the dodger organization seen an aerial view of Chavez ravine before any of it was even leveled it would have made no difference to them. The way I look at it, if you can support the dodgers and not give a shit about what happened to the people who lived there, you would sit alongside Governor Reagan and eat grapes in front of Cesar Chavez!

Unfortunately, it's true.

There are so many stories like this. The government has had the right to take your private property by eminent domain for fair market value for many years. The next time you hear a politician spouting off about creating low income housing, be suspicious. This is what can happen.

These pictures are absolutely beautiful and this documentary was outstanding. I had no idea of this history and deeply saddened that our government did this to these people. Yes, they need an apology and reparations. It also appears that the Dodgers deserve the bad press and more, especially in light of their decision to honor the drag queen nuns which has brought attention to the Dodgers once again.

Tore my heart out

Wow, I grew up in nearby City Terrace, Monterey Park area and never heard of this.

I agree I mean would tell me but being raised in Los Angeles

​@@anacontreras6899 right

​@@anacontreras6899 que Dijo?

@@HighstHikes😂

Why?

Been knowing this for some years now. But that event made me mire interested in the history. Found out a about a book called stealing home. And Nan what a fascinating but sad story. Brown people displaced so easily

I know you're Dodgers fan because you live in LA and also Jackie Robinson is a Dodgers and MLB legend. This is why I know that relocation from Brooklyn went wrong because it's not bad when the Dodgers from Brooklyn was relocated to LA but it's worse to relocate at the wrong place in LA and the wrong decision.

It would have happened eventually... it's either this story or you would be reading another. Life ain't fair. You are dealt a hand of cards and you play them. This happened everywhere in those days. Sad truth! My great grandparents were moved from there home for a freeway... at least this village brings joy to they city now.

The sad reality is, if they never stole the land from the people. Someone else would have. Gentrification has been happening in places like for a long time.

Back then?

@@MrGonzz623 not true wtf

generationalal wealth of latinos, can you imagine being that family that grew up 3 generations in a household your great grandad bought. but now we just have to accept that they took it away from our people because "just the way it is"

Rosy Zepeda education in the US is bad. Shame on the City of LA for burying this community for a boring stadium.

I knew it back in 1994 so since then I haven't watched a la dodgers game.

Like everything else bro, Angels!

You can say the same for most people in this country. Most only know the revised version of their history.

@@gonzalo3265 My Mom was the same! She always told us about this & I tell Dodger Fans all the time & they are clueless

Excuse me for asking but were you born in Jerome, Arizona ? My mother was born in Jerome Mining town, I know there were quite a few mining towns over there, i was just curious, salute 👍

We gotta take that word back CHICANA/O are not bad words, its a pride CULTURAL state.

where can i get more info on this? what can i search for on google?

What mining town? Globe? Miami?

My parents lived there with my grandparents the Santos family my dads name was Rudy but they called him Blackie & my Uncle Gibert Hernandez & he married my dads sister Esther they called her Tepie

I remember bunker hill with all Victorian homes I rode the old train angels flight down to Broadway in Los Angeles I grew up.in Wilmington CA we had Historian homes too

​@@davidortega357 Remember the Carmen theatre?

As 78yo third generation Californian you won't hear about that because this money hungry author can't make a buck off white families being displaced.

So I guess if this money hound wrote a story about all the white families displaced to build the harbor freeway all the way to San Pedro you'd be angry and not use the harbor freeway right.

Real history of los chavez ravine

The Arroyo Seco Parkway/Pasadena Freeway was already there. It was completed in 1940, and you can see it in some of those old photos. And, in fact, the adjacent Solano Canyon neighborhood still exists. However, you're right about everything else. A grave injustice was done in the name of greed. At the very least, the Chavez Ravine residents and others should've gotten their planned community in that beautiful natural setting.

@@ronaldvrooman9695 The Arroyo Seco parkway only contained 3 lanes in either direction, with no shoulders. They later added 4 more lanes, in addition to new interchanges & parkways. Chavez Ravine could have been an urban paradise, with it's beautiful hills right next to downtown, and like you said the residents shouldn't have been kicked out purely for a baseball stadium.

I doubt that very much. In reality, it was a poor area and would have remained poor. Today it would be much like a lot of the area gang infested and still poor.

@@renanbautista6222 This area was just starting to break through to the middle class when it was uprooted. you know absolutely nothing about this community and its history, and from what else you're saying, you know next to nothing about what even still remains in the LA area. You're either ignorant or you were lied to but either way get that racist dog-whistle shit out of here

It was the utopians who yanked those families out, not the Dodgers. The history of forced redevlopment has no happy endings

Wow how amazing is that!

Does that also apply to us whites that we're displaced for the SoCal freeway system? This author can't make money off sharing that part of history, disgusting

Yea the George Lopez generation is clueless

Same here

Hi. What book is it? Thank you .

@@yehikac "Chavez Ravine." The one I have is hardcover.

Its a great book.the photography is amazing but the stories. And man proper social net rack on this too.

Wow would you feel the same about many more families were displaced when the freeway system went in back in the 40s and 50s. I'm third generation Californian and at 78 remember the number of homes removed but then this money hungry author wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole because those were white families and stirring up crap about only blacks and Mexicans makes money. How about feeling sorry for those folks.

I think cause they were not Mexicans from California but we're descendants of Mexicans who immigrated from different Mexican states. So it doesn't really affect them as it does the Californian Mexican. I'm first generation California. My family had lived in Texas for 6 generations (around the 1830's) They immigrated from Tamaulipas and Coahuila.

If you love LA so much why don't you go back

Good move, Los Angeles is a shit show now

@@sincitycapital because is beyond affordable, under a rock ? L.A. housing has sky rocketed beyond control

I am 87 yo, grew up in LA CO. As a Mexican-American I hated history classes and did poorly. I just could not relate to some of the inconsistencies I knew from my kin.

They didn’t want u to know

Whitewashing at its best!

White man always trying to keep non-whites down

It's really just a Southern California story and not a very big one at that. Unless you're a big dodger fan or live in LA why would matter? Clearing land for stadiums or highways or anything else is common in history. It's not a racist story. That's total bullshit

It is and shame most us Chicanos have no clue and love LOS DODGERS! Great show that sticks to racism faced by M/A at "barrels" is penny dreadful: City of angels. Beautiful Latin cast, cinematic, music. Acting? Gtfo top notch. Lol

Why is it racist to say you're proud to be white but not to run around saying la raza la raza

@@sincitycapitalIf "white" is how you describe yourself, be proud to be white. Just don't deny the imbalanced power structure that is being discussed. And even though the displacement that happened at Chaves Ravine seems to have been "lawful," time and again POC suffer from unfair laws perpetrated by white lawmakers at a disproportionate rate. No one will fault you for being proud as long as you don't ignore the atrocities of the past. There's too much info out there to claim ignorance any longer.

@@sincitycapital Because of your ancestor's racist history that brought nothing but death, destruction and deception and colonizing other peoples rightful land just so that the poor black slaves would work the land and do all the dirty work so they could enjoy the benefits. Today yourself benefited what was handed down to you by your ancestors. You have alot of special priviledges for being white. Think about it.

As a third generation Californian and 78yo I'm curious if your concerned about the thousands of families displaced all races and yes even whites for the expansive freeway system?

As a third generation Californian I remember when neighborhoods were removed to build the harbor freeway all the way to San Pedro but these story tellers won't do stories about this time in history because it was whites relocated and God forbid they mention that because scratching old sores about blacks and Mexicans get the bleeding hearts all worked up and then comes the we demand reparation which in my opinion a bunch of bull and as usual it's money money money, ridiculous

I'm curious if this money hungry author will discuss all the white families displaced when the harbor freeway was build all the way to San Pedro? I think not because there's not a gold mine for him like stirring up old sores about poor blacks and Mexicans.

Divide and conquer

It never existed its a EUROPEAN BASED LIE!!!!!!!

@@dwightlove3704 the whole actual USA is an European lie, become a nightmare we could say

@@soogoonu You get no argument from me on this and this lie is starting to be exposed I saw a quick story about The Actress Hattie McDaniels and how her white neighbors forced her and her black neighbors out of a place called West Adams because of the obvious subject of race.I saw this on the new social media site called TIK TOK.Those same white ppl allowed a highway to be created in front of McDaniels home.

sounds like poor people in this comment section

@@MadKingofSpace How about just plain ppl speaking the truth.

It's Mexican american not Hispanic. It's our land and our history stop trying to be inclusive about our culture identity and history ig no rant po s

You're being racist right now by grouping us all together. Other Hispanics just got here, we're native to the land.

Is not over people been push out of Pico Union/ Westlake area because rents are for middle class and up now. A studio up to $1500-$2000 when less than 10 years ago the highest for a studio $750-$900. And the majority of people from this areas are moving into South Central. That's why South Central has been active on the construction industry but mostly apartments. People from South Central aren't use for such a raise on their rents and are force to move out if they don't own the house.

Wow you are worked up but as a 78yo third generation Californian born and raised in southern California I'll share the truth about this story teller. When the freeways like harbor freeway was built many neighborhoods were taken over but most were white and some mixed do you hear him bloviating about that no because that won't make him any money. The fact this guy likes picking at old sores is his game and that is pathetic. So please stop with the bleeding heart crap this is only about two things money and maybe that ridiculous reparation

Born in 61, lived in City Terrace. 😎✌🏽

Is your heart tore out when all these families were displaced when the freeway system was built? I'm third generation Californian and 78yo and remember that part of history but this money hungry author won't touch that part of history because those families were white and God forbid that story be told because there's no money it that part of SoCal history.

@optitom9033 why bad mouth the author? Write it yourself! With 78 years of local knowledge under your belt, you wouldn't even have to research the details, because you lived through it.

@JustBob5150 my point was this guy just went on a pick a choose search for anything that would create a bleeding heart crusade to highlight a bogus immigration movement in those days ( mostly illegal). I have always support and know many immigrants that did the right thing and love this country not these illegals invading our country and costing hard working taxpayers billions.

Never liked them because because of. That. Angels. Is the base ball original team of. LA..

………and Chong

Yesss ! Love that I came across this .

what tik tok was it?

@@davidcasillas2491 From cameronbicht it's his most recent video

Me

Yes

I can relate to that picture so much I miss you padre wish you could see your grand kid 😞 4:30