Thanks for watching! Yea of course I started with the cheaper drum too before making the jump aha. I guess that goes for beginning any instrument such as guitar, keyboard etc. that it makes sense to get an 'entry level' one to see if it is something that really speaks to you in the first place

Cool! Sounds like a really nice store and place 👍

I 100% agree with this comment

Thanks! I like that idea of an 'investment.' I wish you all the best

Awesome! I definitely started with thr Amazon first too! thanks for watching

Thanks! subbed your channel. Nice stuff

@@DylanFerno …Awwww thanks … so very much appreciated!! And just fyi, my music pages are also on FaceBook, Instagram and TikTok … all under the same name ….That Handpan Lady … 🤗🛸🎶🦋

I really appreciate that feedback! Good luck with your studio!

Yea that's all true as well. Thanks for pointing it out. I believe Kosmosky does make some chromatic drums also but definitely not all of them

@@jamesmichael20910 I agree. Thanks for adding this.

Yeah, drums that are of a certain scale resonate better as a default then again with a chromatic one you can play anything at all since it has all the notes in its range. So it's a tradeof

Actually it seems like no tongue drums have a chromatic scale because they can only play in one key per side. So they may have a natural scale if all 7 notes of the key are included. A chromatic instrument would mean that all 12 possible pitches are available to play as in a piano or guitar. Kosmosky's new wave drums do offer a full natural scale however

Thanks! glad you enjoyed

Good choice! and thank you

Yea big difference. I've been using a singing bowl cushion as a playing stand that works well.

Yea the mass produced ones are definitely all from pretty much the same factory and just branded differently. I definitely agree that they need to be bigger than about 9" to get the deep ethereal tones. I find the smaller ones kinda more like cool looking xylophones

Glad it was helpful! you can't go wrong with a cheaper one. As long as they are at least 10 inches in diameter they will sound great in my opinion

That's the way to do it! I started with the Amazon one too

You're welcome! The drum is B minor on one side and E mixolydian on the other side

Thanks! Glad it was useful

They are both suitable for handplaying. The layout of the notes is a bit more intuitive on the factory drum (the adjacent notes are 2 whole tones apart) but you can get used to the Kosmosky drum layout easily

I agree that it is mostly subjective. They sound different and can be used in different contexts, but if they were the same price, I think the 2-sided one is better. The factory one is definitely worth it though and still a great instrument 👌

Hey most tongue drums I've played have had 1 or 2 tongue that don't resonant as much. It's normal. You can using small magnets under the tongues to see if that helps

@@DylanFerno Thanks , I thought that as well I will try magnets . There is something I did I'd like to share with you .I ran some heavy nylon twine through the small holes on the drums outer edge . In this way the drum hung freely ,sort of like a marching band drum it was all jury rigged hanging from a boom mic stand . Hanging it this way I was able to play both sides. Quite the sound experience ,and all tongues resonated beautifully . I haven't done it yet , but I plan to build something better to to hold it this way . As you might imagine , it was a little risky trying this , but it does work - billy

@billy freeze That's a really cool idea thank you would love to hear a sound demo of that

@@DylanFerno sure - working on a proper stand for it .

Im not 100% sure I understand the question. There is only one note per tongue. When you hit the tongue there is an initial striking sound before the note rings out. The resonance inside of the drum may cause some other notes to ring slightly as well.

I thought I'd add some two cents in what you're asking and maybe some more guidance in your decisions. 1 the loudness and resonances which emit from the tongue drums really need a good quality mic and setup for proper recording. Check out World Drum channel on KZfaq and you can understand what that guy is discussing when he plays a Kosmosky drum. 2. I have a Rav Vast, had a Guda Freezebee FYI the ones on Amazon are ripoffs from the top Guda from Dmitry, I also have a multitude of Meinl pocket, mini, and small tongue drums. A. The Rav Vast is hands down the boss! Forget a handpan as they can easily be out of tune. The Rav, if you can afford it, will provide you the sound and the crowd pleasing that you will and should want. I'm not a musician with knowing notes and what not. But I can intuitively play these better than what most you tubers put out there. B. The guda was good but different than the Rav as it has a more plucky sound from the initial strike and much less resonance, flat? This is good in its own way I should note that the Quality you want and are looking for is found in one someone thing can you play it with your fingers. If yes it's a great start. If you must use mallets then I would not purchase. Lastly, the guda for best quality get the real ones from the Dmitry website. C. The Meinl, given its an instrument company, I blind bought the " 2 small, 2mini & 1 pocket" tongue drum found with in their "sonic energy" line/series. I think this was excellent to break into After the Rav Vast looking f hour my NEXT amazing tongue drum. Reason being the Rav is second to none. Do I get a larger Meinl Tank Drum or Meinl Octave Sonic Energy? Well the meinl small, and the mini are definitely helpful in that I can experience a multitude of scales in person for future choice. Also it reveals quality of the meinl brand. I will comment this to this videos main section, but included here is this as well the small, mini and pocket meinl are great quality cheap and excellent product! They are by no means close to larger tongue drums.when you look at the finish of the cheaper tongue drum in this video it is the SAME exact paint finish as the meinl products. I suspect they are made by our in the same factory in China and these are unbranded and slightly different cut. Thus the cheaper one can be on the similar level of quality. Maybe that helps you make a decision. As for me I will be purchasing a similar design of the Kosmosky and am currently researching by video, again the recording of the scales is hit or miss to really know what you're listening to. However,.... Finally........after all of this....... It boils down to this can you play it with your fingers? The answer, for me, is that for some reason the resonating capabilities of the tongue drum reveal best quality IF it is able to be played by BOTH mallets but I prefer and primarily play with your fingers/thumb knuckle. Thus the decision for a second larger drum becomes simple. The Meinls are great but I found are almost impossible to play with your finger. That kicks out the Meinl Sound Energy "Tank Drum" and "Octave" choices. The only, again to me, 2 choices that exist are another Expensive! And large/heavy takes up space Rav Vast or......... A beautiful design with 2 individual scales Kosmosky. Both are playable with fingers as far as I can tell in videos. There is a lot in personal preference, scale color size price. Keep it simple you have enough money for a Rav Vast get the one you want and most enjoy for the scale and sound. If you want more affordable and possibly 2 scales! Then get the Kosmosky. You can always purchase, like I did a few of the smaller Meinl tongue drums to in person experience the scales and then make your decisive choice. Celtic D minor Rav Vast is amazing. I'm going to get a kosmosky that allows for a brighter elation feeling and something maybe with akebono? MAYBE our something like pygmy. There is an idiopan in 12 size and you can tune it with little magnets however you like. For me I like to be able to pick it up and exoect and know what I will hear. All the best! Hope to know what you end up choosing

Whichever one sounds the best to you!

Magnets can help tune the tongues better, but if it is just a bit 'dead' sounding it can't really help with that unfortunately. Good luck with your practice!

I wouldn't really be too concerned about brands on the cheaper drums from Amazon and Aliexpress. They all come from the same or similar Chinese factories so the products are essentially the same across brands, just with different stickers slapped on them. Go for one with a size, design, and price that you like 👍

Nice! Some are probably better than others. But it seems like most notes being slightly out of tune is the norm

@@DylanFerno I realise I may have been lucky.

about $80 USD for the amazon one and about $350 USD for the hand made one

@@DylanFerno That’s the kind of thing that’ll last you at least 30 years. So amortizing it comes to about 3 cents a day. AND should be worth a lot more at the end of the 30 years, leaving you with a half a lifetime of exquisite sounds and a profit ! I’ll take it !

I agree but of course I don't have every kind of drum in every scale 😊

I agree

100%

yea good point. I think this is mostly a pro of the drum for ambient music. But when playing with other instruments you can mute its reverbation by holding your hand or mallet on the notes after striking them

aha really? I mean they do sound different so it comes down to preference at the end of the day

Sure. I have different preferences but I respect both of those opinions.

@@DylanFerno It's good to have an open mind Does the Fancy One have a picture hook attachments for wall hanging ? Does it have those 3 little rubber feet that allows it to sit stable on floor, desk, chair or stand ??? Those Under Tongues still mess up the Top Tones, harmonically overlap resonating, and shorten it resonating time. If you want to damp a Tone, you only have to put your Hand on it. If the Tone ain't there, you can't extend it. Altogether a WONDERFUL Instrument that is Brand New to me (at 72 and for 5 Years Studio set up Groups, Big Bands and ENTIRE Symphonic Orchestras complete with PRRCUSSION SECTIONS !!!), I don't know how I missed The Tongue Drum. It's most ASTONISHING Features:- It breaks ALL the Drum Percussion Rules offering the Full Scale + 2 from, (not counting the feet), ONE SINGLE COMPONENT and needing no other parts to work effectively. Is this a NEW Invention ? My Female Percussionist would have KILLED yo get one. Take Care. DDDOOO000ooonnG !!!!!!!

@a.bloke2.0alwayslearning.23 Hey so it doesn't have any attachments for wall hanging. I made my own hook to hang it up. It has 3 tiny rubber feet that fell off. I use a singing bowl cushion underneath it for maximum resonance. It's very cool that you have such a history with music. I think the instrument was created around 2007 or so, so it is a relatively new instrument but yea it's really cool and can easily be hooked up to speakers directly with a magnetic contact microphone