CHEAP LS TURBO TEST-EBAY GT45 vs SUMMIT S475

  Рет қаралды 241,576

Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

3 жыл бұрын

$163 DNA GT45 TURBO vs $649 S475 SUMMIT TURBO-WHO WINS? DO YOU REALLY GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COMPARED TWO LOW-$ TURBO TITANS, THE ALWAYS POPULAR GT45 CLONE (FROM DNA AND EVERYONE ELSE) AND THE SUMMIT RACING S475. HOW DOES THE CHEAPER 800-HP TURBO COMPARE TO THE MORE EXPENSIVE 1000-HP TURBO?

Пікірлер: 612
@jasonn4397
@jasonn4397 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the videos Richard. It’s important work and consumer evidence you’re providing.
@stephencarter1442
@stephencarter1442 3 жыл бұрын
I Appreciate all your hard work. The fast lane to horsepower taking out the guess work..You rock DZ 302 was my first drag Motor in a drag jeep.
@racecar68bird
@racecar68bird 3 жыл бұрын
i would love to see a turbo video on different size AR housings on the same compressor size and see how the different backpressures affect the boost rate. pleeeeeeease.
@danielsullivan9865
@danielsullivan9865 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@tristanmerrill7563
@tristanmerrill7563 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@hybridracers
@hybridracers 3 жыл бұрын
@@hondatech5000 dude you just babbled on and on about nothing. The AR ratio can significantly impact power as back pressure on the hot side can cause massive inefficiency on the cold side. Thats what they wanna see, not your "pick the best size turbo" generic bullshit.
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 жыл бұрын
I would totally love to see that! I'd love to see a complete series on different AR housings, on the compressor side as well. The new Garrett G series is running larger A/R on the compressor side with a more efficient wheel. A G25 flows slightly better than the GTX30! I really wish they would have taken advantage of the OE side advances a long time ago. The aftermarket is supposed to lead the charge. Not the other way around. If it wasn't for emissions Nazis we wouldn't be making nearly as much power. Unintended side effects hahahaahha.
@Kyle_gallegher
@Kyle_gallegher 3 жыл бұрын
@@hondatech5000 i agree with there not being a ton of options in ar housings given low budget turbos from eBay to hks, and summit to borgwarner.
@matmichalke5734
@matmichalke5734 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still learning and your videos are awesome and informative! I’d like to see single vs twin turbo setups and more specific 2 gt45 vs a bigger/more expensive single setup and pros/cons of each example
@KerchumA222
@KerchumA222 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the Summit turbo compared to Twin GT45 clones. I'm interested to see what going twins does to boost lag and torque. 2 x $169 = $338 which is still around half the price of the S475. Factoring in the extra cost of plumbing a second turbo might make this a better comparison money-wise.
@Orygunner67
@Orygunner67 Жыл бұрын
Good point, good point!
@trdscfjc
@trdscfjc Жыл бұрын
He did this test, the gt45 turbos were better, at 1000 hp the s475 had like 3 times the back pressure 😳
@dcarden3031
@dcarden3031 Жыл бұрын
Cheap /clones always have a down fall. Holset,Garret, precious, and turbonetics. Have levels and classes you buy the class you want to be in and never have to wonder if it can support it.
@alshotrodgarage4779
@alshotrodgarage4779 3 жыл бұрын
I personally find your vast knowledge invaluable Richard and learned more with your videos than any other on utube hands down. Thank you 1000% More nova please!!!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
happy to help
@brokenfingerdesigns
@brokenfingerdesigns 3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Richard. You should do a video explaining turbo efficiency maps and why they have falling boost curves.
@tomcelica
@tomcelica 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best turbocharger video I have seen. Very informative and well presented. 👍👍
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@shadjohnsen8143
@shadjohnsen8143 4 ай бұрын
@@richardholdener1727what size is your GT45 please? I looked for a GT45 and there seems to be several different ones. Thanks, and great vid!
@thehotrodstation3313
@thehotrodstation3313 3 жыл бұрын
You put 45min worth of info in a 22:45min video! Keep at it , I'm soaking all this up. Why? I don't know, I like it!
@jdrods1519
@jdrods1519 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Richard!!! Thank you for all the information you give us!
@gregkeen4907
@gregkeen4907 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting these Richard!
@bryansautosupply
@bryansautosupply 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome test. I had just asked if you'd do this test a few weeks ago. Nice video!!!!
@magnetar2008
@magnetar2008 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Rich, awesome channel, waiting to hear more data for the Buick Camp please..
@johnwehunt4305
@johnwehunt4305 3 жыл бұрын
Please Richard, do the ebay 3582 water oil turbocharger. Single and dual setups. There are a lot of guys wanting to know your expertise about them.
@Boosredlsteggy
@Boosredlsteggy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really liking all these turbo videos. I would like to see the difference with the turbo headers from ebay or a name brand if possible. Hoping to do a ls swap in a 3rd gen camaro soon with twins and I'm at the point of getting the gt45 clone for sure. Keep up the good videos
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 50 times over!!! I'm so tired of people on forums yapping about not bothering with cams or ports. "Why are you gasket matching, pocket porting and changing the cam? You are adding boost anyway, what's the point? " Because making your motor as efficient as possible will really get the numbers up there! A well built VQ37 making 450na will do 1050 at 20psi or 1.4 BAR. 20 PSI on a stock VQ37 might get you 750. That's a huge difference and less strain on the motor. People just don't understand, I would love to see twin gt45s vs twin 475s. Maybe a compound setup in the 4 liter 2jz type in the land cruiser!! Stock vs ported, built and cammed.
@naomifox7899
@naomifox7899 3 жыл бұрын
usually I just use compressed air to the top of the gate via pressure regulator to raise boost in increments on the dyno vs a bleed
@mrdrewfus3945
@mrdrewfus3945 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, appreciate the information and clarification, cheers
@grants.9120
@grants.9120 3 жыл бұрын
Oooooo that intro music sure got me in the mood
@roknroy1
@roknroy1 3 жыл бұрын
happiness is.... a new richard video!
@lrmmorgan
@lrmmorgan 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing about the cheap turbos is, the sticky waste gates. Ive had 2 of them run away. Got the motor shut down before any damage was done, but something to watch out for! Awesome vid again!! Thanks
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
I don't usually go cheap on waste gates-those are critical
@bdugle1
@bdugle1 3 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned AR variations and back pressure, I say yes please! The back pressure curves would be a nice addition to the info. It must have been quite high on the maxed out GT45, but it still followed the pressure ratio horsepower formula quite closely (looking at the boost curve at power peak). This begs the question, if both make the same power at the same boost but one has much higher back pressure, is it using more fuel or something to get there? You’ve mentioned the exhaust valves might not like the high back pressure, is there any other down side? Please do a test to show the effects of back pressure on power production with hot side variables like AR ratio. Thanks again, Richard, for the best channel on YT!
@tristanmerrill7563
@tristanmerrill7563 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can tell you’ve learned a lot since you did this test.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
not sure how you tell that
@patlandymore7035
@patlandymore7035 3 жыл бұрын
A very informative video! Thanks Dr. Turbo 😁
@tonymunn
@tonymunn 3 жыл бұрын
I understand!! Thank you. I have a propane powered Toyota 3TC with 87mm Weisco forged pistons and a Schneider turbo cam, MSD 6AL and CB performance Black box ignition computer. I should be happy with about 190hp with my 10lbs of boost. My little '73 Corolla will be fun! Driven it around the neighborhood un-tuned and it feels great.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
I LIKE THE 73 ROLLA AND THE 3TC
@williamblankenship6501
@williamblankenship6501 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping the turbos were going to be the same size so we could see the difference between the cheaper single journal bearing and the more expensive but more efficient ball bearing turbo. Hp, boost curve, ect....If you can make that happen it would be great. Your videos are very informative. Thank you!
@Orygunner67
@Orygunner67 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is the exact reason why I watched this video. Unfortunately and somewhat unfairly Richard didn't use the same exhaust input flanges etc to drive the cheaper turbo. It might have produced just a tad more! What say you?
@stoplightbandit3965
@stoplightbandit3965 3 жыл бұрын
Great info , Great attitude. Thanks for all the vids
@naomifox7899
@naomifox7899 3 жыл бұрын
budget boost is a great thing
@Orygunner67
@Orygunner67 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. One must consider volumetric efficiency of the engine as well as a turbo. At lower RPM and horsepower ranges the cheap one will do fine.... As things head to the higher end of the RPM spectrum it's going to fall flat. Like you said Richard the turbo must be designed to support the particular horsepower application.
@umakemerandy3669
@umakemerandy3669 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this and indeed all your videos Richard. Big up.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@wadebonhomme2142
@wadebonhomme2142 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan this really helped me, I moved recently and have this exact same grill, doing the conversion now, great info!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
Who is Dan?
@wadebonhomme2142
@wadebonhomme2142 Жыл бұрын
Lol, leaving too many positive reply’s on other people’s channels. Loved this video Richard, as always your videos are very informative, love all the comparisons and commentary!
@DerrickTheMechanic1975
@DerrickTheMechanic1975 3 жыл бұрын
Good info Richard....Your the new Turbo Guru.....🙏
@ratman5727
@ratman5727 3 жыл бұрын
To quote Mr. Banks "it takes pounds of air to burn pounds of fuel". Air density is the key, -and if you run a compressor off of it's island on the compressor map, adiabatic efficiency takes a major dump. Heat the air and it's worthless. Great videos as always Richard, -I watch every one! Looking forward to Turbo Tuesday!
@pimpdaddy9604
@pimpdaddy9604 3 жыл бұрын
I have personally found The new generation of hi efficiency Garrett turbos substantial step up which would make a great video Richard
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
show us the data
@pimpdaddy9604
@pimpdaddy9604 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how to upload pictures I would have to check with don Walsh additional dyno information
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the engine that stays on the island. It's one thing to say it in a theoretical context, it's another to size a turbo that perfectly to what the engine needs to do all the time.
@ratman5727
@ratman5727 3 жыл бұрын
@@177SCmaro You are absolutely correct. There is no way to ever stay in the sweet spot all of the time. I was merely stating that there are significant benefits to be had by sizing the charger/compressor as close as possible for the amount of mass air flow.
@tri00azerath
@tri00azerath 3 жыл бұрын
Another super informative video! Thanks Richard! Any chance you might cook up a video explaining ring gap and compression ratios for different power adders?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
ring gap is .007-.0075 per 1.0-inch of bore size (near .028-.030) for both top and 2nd ring. compression is open-more for race cars with high octane, less for street cars
@mfaulks206
@mfaulks206 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks Richard. Torque curves below 4000 is quite interesting, like your thoughts / comments. Both turbos look to be spooled by 3500, yet the Summit setup is still putting out more torque lower down at that point with approx .5 psi less boost, where the smaller turbo you would have expected held closer. I guess transient response may show differences with the smaller turbine etc, but is it simply the difference in exhaust restriction on the motor at that point? Thanks
@pjmccoy4216
@pjmccoy4216 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks @RichardHoldener another great vid with the info I need. I still think twin 45's on the stock caddy will my best route. Lock it at 6psi of boost. Would make a great fun reliable engine. Ebay has some big block chey turbo headers cheap. Like 140 bucks. I've got some caddy header flanges. Courtney said it's easy to make the swap. I'll have to modify my wheel well covers to make it work. I dream of turbos.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
sweet dreams
@sinistersilverado965
@sinistersilverado965 3 жыл бұрын
Love the turbo videos
@itsanthonyb663
@itsanthonyb663 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I love your vids. You should make a detailed video or a how to turbo an ls. Im in the process of 5.3 swapping my 89. I wanna keep the motor stock and just swap a cheap turbo on it. Im a diy guy however theres not really a whole lot of turbo ls info. Just think it would be dope to walk us thru the general process of hooking up a turbo to a motor. Greatly appreciated keep up the dope vids man
@cainadkins3985
@cainadkins3985 3 жыл бұрын
This nigga said theres not alot of turbo ls info ,what rock are you under lol? His 4.6 mod motor info on the other hand yeeeeah good luck finding info on that besides here
@lsubeast13
@lsubeast13 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a book I just bought called ‘supercharging/turboing your ls engine’ (somewhere along that name) and it’s a pretty good step by step book
@thechad76437
@thechad76437 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see some tests on how the diameter of intercooler piping, intercooler inlets / outlets, and intercooler cross sections affect IAT, EGT, etc. Something like 3 different sized turbos, 3 different sizes of pipe, and well, the intercooler inlet / outlet / cross section combos could become quite extensive. Basically the idea would be to help people decide, when it's worth the trouble to start cutting up body parts to make room for bigger "stuff", and when to just use what fit's easiest. Intercooler dragging on speed bumps -vs- limiting the tune to keep it safe.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
watch the intercooler upgrade video
@concretetreg08
@concretetreg08 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a pretty beastly turbo. I'd be curious to see the curve of twin gt45s any way you can test that?
@383mazda
@383mazda 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How about an LS stock head vs one with the swirl ramp ground away?
@MustangCrazyMan72
@MustangCrazyMan72 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Great info, nothing but the facts!
@firstplacelegendgamingmore9800
@firstplacelegendgamingmore9800 3 жыл бұрын
I ran a gt45 on our c5 vette worked great very good budget turbo
@ryanhines719
@ryanhines719 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to be able to do some work with you on some big block stuff! I’m working on some different setups for the future of my car
@rosslester6817
@rosslester6817 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a test comparing a couple different blowers (size, style, boost) love the videos!!!!!!!
@pandabuilt4341
@pandabuilt4341 2 жыл бұрын
Godbless to you for making these awesome videos 🤘🏽
@natelorimer8567
@natelorimer8567 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 454 with a Mike Jones cam ( was ground for a street N/A) , got bored and set up headers routed forward and around to a single s475, no lag, great street killer.
@manueliglesias4212
@manueliglesias4212 3 жыл бұрын
What wastegate spring were you running ? That also has an effect on how much boost you can run with a bleed valve depending on if you didnt use the top port of the wastegate
@Go4BrokeOffroad
@Go4BrokeOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
Good video sir. Looks like my s366 t6 should make around 600hp on the big block.
@kerryb2689
@kerryb2689 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see where you're at on the compressor efficiency map on both turbo's, but that information is not available on the ebay turbo. Maybe you could get some pseudo data by measuring compressor and turbine delta temperature?? ...that is if the temperature readings don't have too much lag time.
@mikef-gi2dg
@mikef-gi2dg 4 ай бұрын
Excellent turbo video.
@danielsullivan9865
@danielsullivan9865 3 жыл бұрын
Great video next time electronic boost controller with back pressure sensor
@Blackinterceptor999
@Blackinterceptor999 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, so the eBay turbo will definitely do what I want to do if I control it properly... I have a stock 2007 PI 2v 4.6 swapped into my '99 lincoln...around 235'ish hp....wanna make around 335 or 350 ish, and keep it somewhat stock looking...My main goal is boosting the torque quite a bit and having a somewhat flat curve similar to the ecoboost using what I got.
@teebirdy57
@teebirdy57 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video with the one t4 88mm next. I'd love to see how close it can get to the 1050hp that it is rated for.
@MariosEvoCy
@MariosEvoCy 3 жыл бұрын
What dictates the hp/psi ratio is the V.E of your engine as long as the turbo can support it. The closer a turbo gets to its choke point and out of its efficiency range the less hp/psi it is going to make until it reaches a boost level where it will be at its limit and at that point it will only create static boost and no flow, even if you manage to maintain a fairly flat boost curve throughout the rev line. (as pressure ratio goes up flow goes down). After that point it will start to drop boost. Bigger turbos allow one to reach higher boost levels and still make power. This can also be said up to a point for more aerodynamically efficient wheels and with more blade surface area, in comparison to less efficient ones of the same overall size, a fact which raises the choke points slightly and can allow one to run a bit more boost through the turbo, but in turbos nothing can beat size in regards to making more power. Another good video.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
na hp doubles at 14.7 psi-increase na hp and boosted power goes up too (just need the turbo size to support that hp)
@MariosEvoCy
@MariosEvoCy 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 The reason it doubles it, is the V.E of the engine, so according to how much hp that V.E of that engine makes in n/a form, it doubles that or close to that, if the turbo pushes the cfm. The same happens to turbo/super charged engines but you usually get the base hp multiplied by the extra boost which is added to the stock boost , or in order to exceed that you will need to increase the V.E of that engine.
@josephmcclure6229
@josephmcclure6229 3 жыл бұрын
Have you done testing on the same size turbo but different kind of compressor wheel. "billet vs cast wheel"? Thank you for all the great work you are doing.
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 3 жыл бұрын
The dyno might not show any difference. I mean anything. If it's a pretty.good cast wheel at moderate boost, there isn't too much to be.gained. on the strip and in the car it's a little different story. If you compared compressors that flow the same, a cast s480 vs billet s476sxe, that might give you more information.
@codywilliams463
@codywilliams463 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a vid to see how much power you can get out of a 302 na none stroker
@wayneireland4802
@wayneireland4802 3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid good insight into performance world.peace
@shelbug100
@shelbug100 3 жыл бұрын
You can hold down control key while selecting files and it should open all the files at once.
@kolejohnson73
@kolejohnson73 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a web page where the test charts can be reviewed and studied? Awsome videos, I am a huge dyno test guy. Every time I dyno an engine it's like a years worth of real world education. Thank you for doing these tests.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
JUST VIDEOS
@orange1soda
@orange1soda 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel.I have an 03 Cobra wanted to turbo it was wondering if you wanted to do a build on it for you channel...
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx for the offer-but I've done lots of those
@Turbogto_guy
@Turbogto_guy 3 жыл бұрын
Damnit Richard. Why did you have to post that tonight? Instead of listening on the way to work in the morning, I’m gonna have to watch it tonight. I guess I’ll just listen to it again in the morning anyways. Lol. 👍
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
yes-do both brother!
@brandonrohrer7914
@brandonrohrer7914 3 жыл бұрын
Please im begin with yoh please do a rear mounted turbo set up all the guys talk sgit about them. Boost leg 🦵 😋. No back pressure.
@ronnieheath6840
@ronnieheath6840 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I really enjoy watching your show, keep it up.
@ronnieyoung8549
@ronnieyoung8549 3 жыл бұрын
Was up Ronnie.
@carlosherrera8541
@carlosherrera8541 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronnieyoung8549 😂😂 hey Ronnie, where’s Connie?😂
@ronnieyoung8549
@ronnieyoung8549 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlosherrera8541 ?? Is that a low down hit. Are u saying I'm gay
@carlosherrera8541
@carlosherrera8541 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronnieyoung8549 idk where you got that from 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ I just saw that y’all were both Ronnie so I figured where’s Connie at?🤷🏻‍♂️😂
@ronnieyoung8549
@ronnieyoung8549 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlosherrera8541 oh. 👀 my fault.
@aftastosk6016
@aftastosk6016 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, i enjoyed it.
@calvinevans8305
@calvinevans8305 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard.
@shanesanders5119
@shanesanders5119 Жыл бұрын
Been watching your videos for a while now. Been going back to watch older videos of what pertains to my build. I’ve been working on my car for 2 years now. I’m ready to finish it but I would like to add turbos. Which will all be new to me. If I give you my build can you recommend turbos for me. I know you like the cheaper turbos to. That’s they way I’d rather go right now and upgrade later. Thank you for any help.
@PeakPerformanceEngineering
@PeakPerformanceEngineering 3 жыл бұрын
Would be really cool to see the same size ebay turbo vs the same size high dollar turbo like a precision and see the differences
@GreenLifeOmaha_GLO
@GreenLifeOmaha_GLO 3 жыл бұрын
Ive heard gt45 is a pt88 clone
@DWBmotorsports
@DWBmotorsports 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenLifeOmaha_GLO I wonder if the gt45 is a Garrett gt45 clone
@aycentroid
@aycentroid 3 жыл бұрын
Well, once you get into the 1500 to 2k range, money doesn't matter, engineering does
@PeakPerformanceEngineering
@PeakPerformanceEngineering 3 жыл бұрын
@@aycentroid the Chinese turbos are direct knockoffs of high dollar, legitly engineered turbos. Of course we want to see how they compare directly.
@hackjobgarage9289
@hackjobgarage9289 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard, you should start taking donations to build a turbo engine and dyno test it. You could let us all vote on what you would build. (5.3LM7!) But you could also make some extra$$$! Just a thought. Love the channel bro! Keep it up!!!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
I will be asking for help with the Big bang 3800 series 2 soon
@Popsm0ke
@Popsm0ke 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard, thanks for this video. This is what I've been looking for. Now I feel better about my purchase of a s475 to run with a 451 stroker. If you're ever able to run a bbm with a better than r.v. platform i know it will be very well received. You'd probably be responsible for a shortage of s475s 😆... again thanks
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
that is a good turbo for the 440 (or 7875 gen 2)
@shanegamble3746
@shanegamble3746 3 жыл бұрын
The V-band flanges on the S475 would make it my choice. I prefer them over slip-on silicone hoses.
@Quinley001
@Quinley001 3 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see the video of the test them turbos spinning
@adamdove7264
@adamdove7264 2 жыл бұрын
good stuff man !!!
@kylej489
@kylej489 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Richard. Would be interesting to see an A/R comparison and the difference that makes on the same turbo
@mixxedboyybuilds8273
@mixxedboyybuilds8273 3 жыл бұрын
Rob dahm has a video for that , just done on a rotary engine but same principal.
@kylej489
@kylej489 3 жыл бұрын
@@mixxedboyybuilds8273 thanks mate I’ll go check it out 👍🏻
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 3 жыл бұрын
Ar is a really fine tuning thing. I kinda want to see.the same compressor wheel on different turbine sections with the same Ar. Garrett has gt3788, gt4088 and gt4288 turbos that all have the same compressor head. They are all kind of the same size. The compressor wheel has the same pn. The turbine is really different and would show way more than a switch of just Ar
@kylej489
@kylej489 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothybayliss6680 this is an awesome test idea also, the Garrett’s mentioned and some larger frame Borg’s 👍🏻
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
that's a better test that AR change Tim
@TurboHDT
@TurboHDT Жыл бұрын
pretty interesting article shown me I was about to make a big mistake
@BLKMGK4
@BLKMGK4 3 жыл бұрын
Shop air applied instead of a controller maybe?
@JuniorN316
@JuniorN316 2 жыл бұрын
S475 @ 10psi - 6000rpm = ~780hp GT45 @ 10.5psi - 6000rpm = ~750hp Similar but definitely statistically significant. That’s a difference in power of ~4%. For people trying to maximize a setup this matters.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 жыл бұрын
picking one point (at different pressures) is not a good comparison
@JuniorN316
@JuniorN316 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 I agree! I'd love to see you run this test again with the EBC, the cheap GT45, the S475, and a big dollar race turbo.
@bigboygames8800
@bigboygames8800 3 жыл бұрын
Could find these for 150$ but since this dropped all i can find them for is 200 lol
@ConcussedGaming
@ConcussedGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That's still pretty good considering good high priced snails cost 10x that.
@vee950
@vee950 3 жыл бұрын
@@ConcussedGaming lol 😆 I like how you put that. Snail's
@TONYSTARK-jh2wu
@TONYSTARK-jh2wu 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no 50 more dollars.....
@warriorforjesuschrist.1854
@warriorforjesuschrist.1854 3 жыл бұрын
They are on ebay right now for $168 I am actually watching this video to decide if it is worth me throwing $375ish away.
@rdub79lx
@rdub79lx 3 жыл бұрын
Do a test with 2 of the $100 GT3582s on a 4.8
@SBoth_
@SBoth_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wanting to make 750 hp on a 5.3. Can I do that with a gt45 at 15lbs of boost?
@matthewvanpamel6253
@matthewvanpamel6253 3 жыл бұрын
Basing it on cost, would you be better off doing a twin turbo gt45 clone setup vs the single summit? Instead of comparing like turbos, could you compare like costs?
@MalcolmRowley
@MalcolmRowley 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious about throttle response between the two.
@johnhazel9986
@johnhazel9986 3 жыл бұрын
Disco... disco dyeeeno... Seriously: Thanks for the great vids. How about a 454 with cast iron exaust manifold and direct mounted dual GT45. Then test 3 cams for the lowest back pressure while making 900HP
@Danielvarady
@Danielvarady 2 жыл бұрын
Richard, what psi should I think about other than pump gas 91 here in new mexico???
@meanermater1310
@meanermater1310 Жыл бұрын
So if im shooting for a daily driven occasional street pull 700 rwhp which would be the best route? Will more then likely be running flex fuel as well as e85 is only had at a few places
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 3 жыл бұрын
Idea.. dry sump vs wet just throwing that one out there
@dankennerson2080
@dankennerson2080 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this.
@Levibetz
@Levibetz 3 жыл бұрын
Engine masters did an oil pan video along those lines, the power gain was not insignificant on a big block.
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 3 жыл бұрын
@@Levibetz ill check it out
@climmetgrimes1249
@climmetgrimes1249 3 жыл бұрын
Nice S475 video in just 1 day response! Richard is that guy!!! 🙌🏽
@Popsm0ke
@Popsm0ke 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah this is one I've requested as well. I hope he will run a s475 on a better than junkyard r.v. bbm. As I am building a 451 stroker and I have a new s475 with the t6 ar1.32
@climmetgrimes1249
@climmetgrimes1249 3 жыл бұрын
@@Popsm0ke nice I got the same turbo but im building a 6.0 ls for my old school
@climmetgrimes1249
@climmetgrimes1249 3 жыл бұрын
@@Popsm0ke first build and I literally got all my info from this angel 🙌🏽
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx-this is not the S475 compare video (more to come)
@decorativeironplus4644
@decorativeironplus4644 3 жыл бұрын
Richard i always enjoy watching your videos very informative . i have a question to see what your thoughts are im in the process of building my headers for a set of 88mm turbos on a 351 base motor stroked to a 393 i had a thought would there be any advantage to run a cross over tube from both the turbos on the hot side and only using one waste gate for both im thinking theoretically the wast gate is only reading over all boost pressure that and running as once source of pressures hitting the hot side of the turbos and balancing out even amount of flow to both turbos maybe allowing more volume . just a thought thanks Bill
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
two gates for two turbos would be better
@decorativeironplus4644
@decorativeironplus4644 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 thank you
@95GTSpeedDemon
@95GTSpeedDemon 3 жыл бұрын
S475 vs s480; does legit borg turbos have better efficiency than the clones?
@thatc10
@thatc10 3 жыл бұрын
Since I have a Summit s475 sitting in the floor of my office going on a 6.0 with P&P 243's and a BTR stage 4 turbo cam with LSXR ( per your intake video) , I am looking forward to seeing what the max output is going to be.
@infamousnova
@infamousnova 2 жыл бұрын
How's it running
@brawler3475.0
@brawler3475.0 Жыл бұрын
Richard yo should do a peanut port headed 454 with 2 gt45 and see what the peanut ports can do !!
@besearchingforwisdom6267
@besearchingforwisdom6267 3 жыл бұрын
Richard? I don't recognize the introduction tunes... At least the shows the same 😊👍
@benjaminchartier6458
@benjaminchartier6458 3 жыл бұрын
Richard, I'm looking to do a boosted 2001 corvette,and would like to get some tips on improving the fuel flow,so I can use the kinds of boost that you're getting with these turbo's.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
injectors and pump
@THEKINGOUWANTIT
@THEKINGOUWANTIT 3 жыл бұрын
Good job buddy
@deegan727
@deegan727 3 жыл бұрын
2 “low buck” turbos. One is 4x the price of the other LOL. Shows how cheap the GT really is.
@The3chordwonder
@The3chordwonder 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing. It would be interesting to see how two DNA GT45's would compare to the single S475 turbo. Would still be cheaper. Perhaps boost might come on faster too?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
boost comes on slower-but the twins can make more
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 3 жыл бұрын
650 bucks for a turbo is pretty cheap. A 160 for a turbo is so cheap I would question the longevity but obviously these things work pretty well for what they are. I guess the little Chinese kids who put them together have really stepped up their game.
@deegan727
@deegan727 3 жыл бұрын
@@177SCmaro I agree, wouldn’t trust one. If I didn’t care how many turbos I’d blow up it would have to be with an intercooler as a shrapnel filter LOL.
@phantomwalker8251
@phantomwalker8251 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 o.k..i not a turbo head,.but,i have a 4.2tdi, ford s/duty. MWM,brazilian..they come std with a mitsubishi,,,td04,,journal bearing. i fitted a import,,td06,ish,ceramic bearing,$680,. power went from 510nm,to 700nm..but only 170 kw.. 135 std..Q is,a bearing spins faster than journal, yes..being a 4x4,it needs low torque. boost seems around 1k. no lag. 4t truck,gets 12.5 lt 100..not many turbo experts here in aus..all drift/drag... truck runs 3" ex. std, 2.5" in. in brazil,these would put your v8 diesels to shame..vids..[ turbo f1000 or turbo silverado. ].
@darrylnolan3582
@darrylnolan3582 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener first of all love your work and appreciate all that you do. Question : Would a good high quality turbo making the same psi at the same rpm be less restrictive on the exhaust side and would that equal more power at the same psi?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
I'M NOT SURE HOW QUALITY WOULD CHANGE THE POWER
@darrylnolan3582
@darrylnolan3582 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Holdener What I mean is would a good expensive turbo be less restrictive on the hot side and would that equate to more power? My thinking is a cheap turbo would have less research and development put into the design and would likely be more restrictive on the hot side and restricting flow on the hot side would cost power!??
@jeremyhughes899
@jeremyhughes899 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video on turbo and tuning timing. Too many utube channels tell u info but intentionally make it complicated so they can sell tunes
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
I DON'T SELL TUNES-I'M NOT A TUNER
@Kyle_0317
@Kyle_0317 Жыл бұрын
Was a good video with good points... I think the only thing we have to worry about now with whatever LS Cam/Boost Combination is making sure to have a good enough setup so when your on the highway in your Corvette and some 16 year old kid thinks he's cool in his Honda Accord/Civic with a Coffee Can exhaust, let's just all pray that your LS platform is squared away enough to put up its defenses to fend off the Honda once it's VTEC✌️Kicks in✌️ 🤣🤣🤣... hahaa my favorite "I don't know anything about cars, car guy " performance lingo I've ever heard ... and now, me and the mad scientist have to rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried! ○ 🔥 ○ 🔥 ○ 🤣🤣🤣... humor for the day. Great Videos! 👍
@the496elcamino3
@the496elcamino3 3 жыл бұрын
Richard you have put out some really amazing horsepower numbers adding ring gap but I don’t remember hearing about o-rings. When does that become necessary?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
I don't run o rings
@davidbuddendorf991
@davidbuddendorf991 3 жыл бұрын
Rich u r the TURBONATOR just bent the #2 connecting rod on my 454 vette after 98,000 miles and 300 1/4 mile passes, for the rebuild i would like to step up to the twin turbo 454 video that you made over 1000hp so I can get back to racing would, it would be awesome to have one of your engine builds!!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 жыл бұрын
good luck with the build
@davidbuddendorf991
@davidbuddendorf991 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 . Can u recommend a rotating assembly, block ready bored 60 over ,should I stroke it to be a 496 any info much appreciated..
LOW $ LS TURBO TEST-CHEAP EBAY GT45 VS THE FAST FIVE
19:23
Richard Holdener
Рет қаралды 155 М.
HOW TO: LOW BUCK, DIY JUNKYARD LS TURBO KIT
22:13
Richard Holdener
Рет қаралды 263 М.
A clash of kindness and indifference #shorts
00:17
Fabiosa Best Lifehacks
Рет қаралды 135 МЛН
Summer shower by Secret Vlog
00:17
Secret Vlog
Рет қаралды 12 МЛН
Looks realistic #tiktok
00:22
Анастасия Тарасова
Рет қаралды 106 МЛН
LET'S TALK TURBOS-DAILY DRIVER TURBO COMBOS
1:14:45
Richard Holdener
Рет қаралды 108 М.
SINGLE v TWINS-LOW-BUCK, 1000-HP TURBO TEST
21:40
Richard Holdener
Рет қаралды 324 М.
Nitrous for Beginners! | Engine Masters | MotorTrend
10:48
MotorTrend Channel
Рет қаралды 232 М.
LOW BUCK LS TURBO TEST-BIG SINGLE VS SMALL TWINS
15:19
Richard Holdener
Рет қаралды 153 М.
Supercharger vs Turbocharger - Why Supercharged Car is Better than Turbo
4:44
Turbo vs. Supercharger - Which is Best?
10:34
Ideal
Рет қаралды 1,6 МЛН
DIRT CHEAP GT3582 TURBOS-PUT TO THE TEST! ($125 LS BOOST)
13:59
Richard Holdener
Рет қаралды 159 М.
Cheap Mopar Modifications! | Engine Masters | MotorTrend
10:18
MotorTrend Channel
Рет қаралды 294 М.
EXEED VX отзыв владельца #shorts
1:00
polinadrive
Рет қаралды 3,3 МЛН
Велосипед с квадратными колесами 🤣
0:44
СПОРУ НЕТ!
Рет қаралды 343 М.
EXEED VX отзыв владельца #shorts
1:00
polinadrive
Рет қаралды 3,3 МЛН