Yepp, they have to hear it to believe it!

For someone considering upgrading from a 2 way (Steg SQ650C) to 3 way, what else (apart from the 3 way Steg MSS) should I consider? I'm in Australia. I'm running a Helix M SIX DSP and an IDQ12.

Thanks for the tip. I’ll have to find it as we don’t really have support for JBL in UK.

Hi Eugene, do you have a Frequenzy Respons of the JBL Sub? I could imagine the seat will cover up higher frequenzys from 150hz

It’s secret info, nobody wants to give that info away for free.

He measures from wherever the listening position will be.

@@chokboywonda yea but some people take measurements from 3 different positions at headrest, left ear, right ear, center, then sum all 3

I would like to get answers for many questions too, but sadly it’s not as simple. Anything more than what’s already been shared in all the tuning videos on KZfaq is gonna be part of a training program for those who really want to take their caraudio skills to another level.

@@pssound9749 does than mean you'll be doing a training series via Patron or something separate?

Not enough in what way? Output? For components it’s very capable. For sub(s) i’d use a separate monoblock.

@@pssound9749 how about for the HK or replacement driver in the underseat location?

@@ccvideotech get a 2-4ohm aftermarket upgrade and it’s absolutely fine. Some of the HK ones are 8ohm.

@@pssound9749 I was thinking a small enclosure sub on a monoblock (processed through the V12) at the front of the passenger foot well to fill out the lower octaves a bit as the trunk is sealed and I'm not going to drive around with the rear armrest down just to get base. Do you have a driver recommendation for that. Or, do you think the right underseat driver can cover "enough"?

If you measure them at 85-90dB, then they are safe even without a HPF, otherwise cross them at 80-100Hz.

I would like to get answers for many questions too, but sadly it’s not as simple. Anything more than what’s already been shared in all the tuning videos on KZfaq is gonna be part of a training program for those who really want to take their caraudio skills to another level.

@@pssound9749 Fine, where can i get detail information about the training programm?

Hi, anything more in-depth was shared on www.patreon.com/pssound. Week 22. Topic, shared 31/05/2021.

Peter, the first thing you say in the Patreon video you referred to is “I cannot reveal my measuring technique”. I find this very disappointing when you ask me to join your Patreon community to find out. If you do not want to share this info, please do not trick people to be your Patreon.

@@leoeskelinen1867 I didn’t say everything would be shared on Patreon, but at least quite many things are cleared up in that video, your questions too, let alone all the other videos in the Tuning playlist that i’ve shared in the last years. Show me one more professional in the trade who shares more information for free, i want to follow that person too! 👍 If you see no benefit in the content on Patreon that now you got access to going back more than a year, then feel free to sign out.

Any car can measure the same with great amount of tuning and EQ work, but as you say they sound different. 1. Midbass drivers are in optimal locations and application for the driver’s T/S specs. 2. Transient response of speakers 3. Car size & rigidity These things are all variables and difficult to tell the formula.

I would keep tweeter within 20-40degree on-axis. Facing each other is really not working for me, especially on driver’s side.

Aliante is hard to beat in a sealed box as it’s so accurate and controlled what you need for rock. W3 is great in sealed too.

@@pssound9749 Hmm so Aliante for more years to come :) Thanks

@@kiklop8362 get another one and run 2, more fun! 😃

@@pssound9749 Oh cmon, I have second one stored under my bed :). But there is not much space in fiesta.

I think you're already thinking on the right track. A new box will likely go a long way. Personally I've always preferred sealed vs ported. Also... (1) check your crossovers and make sure you don't have two turned on by accident or something like that. (2) move the mic around and take some more measurements to see if it's just a positioning issue. If moving the mic changes your measurements, return it to listening position and move your subs (if able).

Easiest way to test it quickly is just block reflexport airtight. Then you can check if output changed to hoped direction. But some subs won't work in sealed enclosure. So test carefully, you might find your sub excursion limits even in low listening levels.

@@ilkkak3065 I actually tried that already and the response changed but in the wrong direction. It wasn't exactly air tight I just stuffed the ports with towels real quick to see if anything happens. I'll try a more air tight seal and measure again. The sub I run can be ran ported or sealed according to manufacturer specs. It's a low end FI audio the xv3

You may want to sign up for Patreon and check the weekly topic where we talk about good sub bass in a car. It’s more complex than just ported/sealed. Plenty to learn there.

It’s a good tweeter, but nothing mind-blowing. Not much point to compare it to the C30AM.

@@pssound9749 do from those two You will chose c30 ? Im looking for something to spare with my z studio 100f midrange and 20 cm gorlich wf What do You think about this ? Mss-1 with those stuff

@@MrTorque3 MSS-1 is so well priced, that you shouldn’t even look for validation from anyone. Just buy it and test it then.