Cheapest AMD X670 Boards Tested, VRM Thermals: Some AM5 Boards 10% Slower For Gaming

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00:00 - Welcome Back to Hardware Unboxed
03:01 - Asrock X670E PG Lightning $260
04:56 - Gigabyte X670 Gaming X $280
06:21 - MSI Pro X670-P WiFi $290
07:39 - Asus Prime X670-P WiFi $290
08:53 - Test System Setup
10:16 - VRM Temperatures
11:10 - Cinebench R23
11:54 - Blender Open Data
12:15 - Clock Frequency
12:29 - Cyberpunk 2077
12:44 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider
12:57 - Watch Dogs: Legion
13:16 - DRAM Timings
15:00 - Final Thoughts
Some AM5 Boards 10% Slower For Gaming, Cheapest AMD X670 Boards Tested, VRM Thermals
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@Hardwareunboxed Жыл бұрын

MSI will be publicly rolling out a series of BIOS updates next week to address the performance issues seen in this video. When using memory clocked below DDR5-6050 they will default to a 1:1 ratio.

@madinime Жыл бұрын

Do you get paid after feedback all of this findings to Motherboard maker? just curious

@nozzy3886 Жыл бұрын

hello , could you do the same video for b650 ?

@vRackham Жыл бұрын

@@madinimeWhy would they? They are journalists, financial relationships (apart from straight advertising alongside the journalistic content) with the entities they cover would compromise their integrity and objectivity. They trade on the trust of their audience, not consulting.

@macieja92 Жыл бұрын

@@vRackham devs who find bugs get paid, so what the fuck are you talking about, he should get paid just like devs who find bugs and get paid by tech companies

@mtlspider Жыл бұрын

my msi MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI did the same with the uclk but since i manually tuned my ram i guess im good

@dakrawnik4208 Жыл бұрын

That huge Memory Timing chart was badass and well appreciated.

@N0N0111 Жыл бұрын

Seriously it gave me hope he has the eyes on the gold!

@proklet4694 Жыл бұрын

I was about to write the same comment... :)

@manuelhernandez2017 Жыл бұрын

This comment cannot be upvoted enough!

@Rooster_0451 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, that's exactly why I come to Hardware Unboxed!!

@pdamasco Жыл бұрын

Yes, I would love to see some of this moving forward. For those that set it and forget it with expo or xmp it would be nice to see how each board handles the sub-timings, primarily if it affects performance like it did in this test.

@dennisjensen2239 Жыл бұрын

Thanx... Looking to do my first PC build in almost 20 years, and really appreciate the videos you do 👍

@Name-nk9tp Жыл бұрын

Nah I don't even have 20 u mad old😂😂😂

@Name-nk9tp Жыл бұрын

@Jinkle 9 ай бұрын

You’ll notice a bit of a jump in performance I reckon…

@Techster96 Жыл бұрын

I love this channel. So much work done in a single video and you guys deliver this quality in almost every video you do. For me you are currently the best tech youtube channel out there.

@samuelivascu7633 Жыл бұрын

Fr GN and HWU have the mist in depth videos that are targeted towards consumers

@luisgarciatrigas3651 Жыл бұрын

@@samuelivascu7633 gamer nexus and hardware unboxed, but who's fr?

@samuelivascu7633 Жыл бұрын

@@luisgarciatrigas3651 i cant tell if you are being sarcastic because text, but i meant: For real, GN...

@luisgarciatrigas3651 Жыл бұрын

@Samuel Ivascu not being sarcastic, I'm just not English native and there are some acronyms don't know, thanks dude 👍

@samuelivascu7633 Жыл бұрын

@@luisgarciatrigas3651 absolutely no problem. Glad i could help

@NutellaToastOW Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a comparison with B650 boards. They'll most likely be more popular as they are cheaper and companies may not want to spend as much time and effort into these cheaper models.

@Dewmuss Жыл бұрын

B650 this gen actually seem pretty damn good and overbuilt, but would love to see a comparison.

@reappermen Жыл бұрын

Depends. A b650 board will of course be made simper/cheaper, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they get less development resources. Keep in mind the mid and low range chipset boards tend to outsell the high end ones by usualy double digit factors. Even of x670s justify higher investments per board, the msssiveöy igher sales volume mames that irrelevant

@hansolo631 Жыл бұрын

Yea I think we all want to see the B650 boards tested! I went with a B650 this gen, which isn't something I normally do - but the cost of high end boards (600 cdn) and the further irrelevance of overclocking made the decision for me. I've been happy with my Aorus B650(AFTER I installed the latest bios, out of the box it was choking my 4080 for some reason) but I'd love to see comprehensive benchmarks.

@rustler08 Жыл бұрын

We need the LTT VRM tier list for AM5. We had it for AM4 and it is what I used to select my motherboard

@Leli196 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the B650 boards are far more interesting this gen, as they are high in price already, but are better equipped as well.

@LoveCupid214 Жыл бұрын

Interested to see the comparison between X670E and B650E to see how they differ.

@Isaiiahii Жыл бұрын

He said he has tested 22 MBs, so I'm assuming those comparisons have been done, and next week we'll see the results! :D I'm also looking forward to seeing those comparisons. I'm impatiently waiting to build an AM5 system once the 7000X3D CPUs release, and my main use for the system will be gaming, therefore, I want to get the cheapest yet best performing board I can.

@shaneeslick Жыл бұрын

Yeah I am interested in seeing how B650/B650E perform, for my R9 3900X I went with X570 as at the time (pre B550) it was the only way to get PCIe Gen4 for M.2 storage for my Hobby Editing PC but I think when I make my next upgrade to a R9 7900 I think the B650/B650E will be all I need.

@hansolo631 Жыл бұрын

Yea. I had a bit of a horror story on the go, I bought a 7600x and a aorus 650 mobo to go with my 4080, and for 2 weeks my FPS in games seemed low - but it was still playable. It was maddening, because I'd watch a video of a 3090ti/5800x combo edge my FPS, and not know if I just lost the silicone lottery badly or something. So I was trying all sorts of stuff, and then finally noticed my mobo was on 1.0 bios. So I patched it to the latest version - instantly everything was fixed. My FPS went up 50%. My timespy went from below average to far above average for my hardware. I have no idea why those factory mobo bios were choking my 4080 like that.

@Antsog Жыл бұрын

b650e is closer to x670e than x670 is

@trr4gfreddrtgf Жыл бұрын

@@Isaiiahii Same boat here! If only ddr5 and AM5 boards could go down in price more.

@ChrisBeardSAP Жыл бұрын

Yet another key finding furthering the body of knowledge for consumers. Thank you Steve!

@HanSolo__ Жыл бұрын

"Thanks, Steve."

@ItsOnlySmellz Жыл бұрын

Genuinely a good video. Just the other day i was thinking how i rarely see motherboard performance compared anymore. This used to be more of a thing many years ago where you'd see comparisons on tech sites pretty often. This video shows why it's important.

@goldfries Жыл бұрын

Greetings from ASRock (Malaysia) - Thank You, for your work and findings. Glad to see our board doing well here.

@K1M01 2 ай бұрын

Hmmm

@rogerdouglas2306 Жыл бұрын

been waiting for a video like this so i have a better idea of which board to upgrade to. thanks a ton for all the hard work and really looking forward to the roundup!

@ShredBird Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to contact the manufacturer and press them for improvements. I have the ASRock Lightning board and I've used the "Aggressive" memory tuning setting in conjunction with the EXPO settings with no issue. Might be something to benchmark if you're curious or maybe ASRock can make those timings the standard.

@assassins9913 Жыл бұрын

looking forward to your review of the b650 boards🙂

@jayargeronimo Жыл бұрын

b650 next please

@Hardwareunboxed Жыл бұрын

I'm working on it guys. There are even more of those things 😅

@malesulo980 Жыл бұрын

@@Hardwareunboxedplease, please, do it with some 5600mhz rams because most of ppl buying b650 are buying 5200-5600mhz rams imho. thank you for your work!

@mangatom192 Жыл бұрын

@ Funnily enough your argument could be applied to yourself as well. Also DDR5 pricing varies from region to region so while the price of ddr5 6000 compared to 5xxx might be the same in your place, it might differ from others.

@derfahnder88 Жыл бұрын

Me too :)

@KiltedCritic Жыл бұрын

I'd really like a guide at somepoint going over some of the motherboard quirks when it comes to PCIE lanes, and what changes depending on what you populate. E.G. a 2nd x16 slot if populated goes down to x8 speed along with the 1st x16 slot, some SATA ports become disabled if all M.2 slots are used etc. and so on. As even manufacturer websites are unclear about these things, and it can be easy buying something that doesn't end up meeting expectations.

@Apollo-Computers Жыл бұрын

Since every model board is made differently , the only way to find that information is to check the mobo manual.

@PClanner Жыл бұрын

Great work Steve - your recommendations are insightful and you present the facts with imparitallity. As I am currently looking to upgrade, your 20 board review will be looked at with interest. My focus is keeping down the thermals for a air cooled rig which of course affects how much power all components use.

@1MrKale Жыл бұрын

Best motherboard reviews anywhere, such a valuable resource - Looking forward to the rest of the series! Love what you do, thanks for the terrific work you put into these Steve!

@SageCallahan Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Very informative and helpful, and much needed too as it's very easy for builders to get lost in all the different board chipsets and features, making it easy to end up with a product without really understanding finer details like shown here. This is the kind of content that makes you guys the best.

@SrSilverstars Жыл бұрын

And so it has begun... Finally the AM5 motherboard content has arrived. I was holding out for this advise. There is no other channel I trust more when it comes to this type of content. As I buy a computer every 7-8 years I cannot get this wrong! (currently using a Sandy-Bridge-e and it is very very tired - lol) These vids are going straight into the already created AM5 playlist that I will use for buying my next setup..., and I will of course use the afiliation links to do so. Can't wait for the X3D variants to press all the buy-buttons.

@ksks6802 Жыл бұрын

The dual ccds on those 3d chips are gonna be a buggy mess. Just a heads up

@Simon_Denmark Жыл бұрын

@@ksks6802No one knows yet. We’ll see in the reviews.

@lagarttemido Жыл бұрын

@@ksks6802 Not any more than Intel's hydrid architecture.

@PineyJustice Жыл бұрын

@@ksks6802 It's really not the same scenario as an intel chip, because the x3d cores will be the fastest gaming cpu core in the world while the non x3d cores will be what, what is currently the 2nd fastest gaming cpu in the world. There will not be a massive performance swing like with an intel chip if something runs on the wrong cores, you might drop from say 240 fps to 200 fps, you can always manually core pin too with applications that you need to run on the 3d cores, or you may have an app that benefits from higher frequency which can be pinned to the non x3d core. Intel e cores are like a core 2 duo core, basically worthless for anything but accelerating benchmarks.

@ksks6802 Жыл бұрын

@@PineyJustice wasn't really trying to go into all that. I trust people to make their own decisions. Say what you will about Intels current stack, but its offerings (watching all the new stuff happen with a 3700x) has made amd either cut prices or release new skus with eco mode enabled. Unfortunately I have to pay attention to this stuff to future proof. Itll be interesting for sure.

@sammiller6631 Жыл бұрын

YAY! It's VRM Thermals time again! I've been waiting for AM5 board testing for so long. No one else seems to be interested in doing motherboard testing like you do it.

@marcelmathes Жыл бұрын

Great content guys, love to see all chipsets done in the future.

@ashamancito4630 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thanks for all that work! On another note: love the outro tune, it is very relaxing/soothing :^)

@darthpaulx Жыл бұрын

wow, didn't know the performance can differ so much. Thanks again Steve. Looking forward to your B650 boards roundup.

@raynefear 2 ай бұрын

I'd love to know if this has all been balanced out now with BIOS / AGESA updates. These HUB early roundups for both X670 and B650 showed significant performance differences and I think it's important, as a gamer, to know whether these gaps have been fixed now. Considering how much we spend on CPU/GPU for every possible performance gain it seems silly that motherboard selection can make such a difference.

@darthpaulx 2 ай бұрын

@@raynefear As currently, i would go for Gigabyte Mobo. But Asrock is looking better and better through the years. Never buy Asus again. I bought Asus in the past. Bios is way to hard to work with. Gigabyte was so simple.

@raynefear Ай бұрын

@@darthpaulx Yeah ASUS really dropped it hard on AM5. I'm stuck between ($CAD prices) $170 ASRock B650M RS Pro Wifi or $270 boards like the MSI B650 Tomahawk or Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX... though on these benchmarks they look great, every Gigabyte board I look at has lots of reviews complaining about bad coil whine. I would rather spend less, but not if that $100 difference means a 10% performance loss since I can't find any evidence at all that these performance gaps have been fixed by BIOS updates.

@Daviesh Жыл бұрын

I definitely appreciate this content. I ended up going for the Asrock B650E Steel Legend for my AM5 rig and it’s the first time I’ve had an Asrock board for a very long time. Your results are reassuring that they are a solid (if sometimes basic) choice when compared to peers, I had held a perception that they were a tier below the asus/gigabyte/Msi group.

@MNunev Жыл бұрын

Got a 7700x with trident z 2x16 6000 cl30 on an Asrock b650e pg-itx wifi replacing my old itx system which is a 3100 with tforce delta rgb 2x8 3000 cl16 on a Gigabyte b550i aorus pro ax. The same config was on an Asus prime b350-plus before switching to itx. Man I have to say in terms of build quality I was really impressed by both asrock and gigabyte - I would say both mobos are on par. In terms of software tools gigabyte was the worst for me though. I was generally very disappointed with the asus board. It worked fine and I even still have it, but it is built as cheap as possible. It is probably not a fair comparison as it is a low end board but still I was expecting more.

@PainterVierax Жыл бұрын

AsRock is always placed 4th for a reason. BIOS is still not at the level of the 3 others, often lacking both polish and functionalities. But if you can make this compromise, the brand is renowned to provide quite interesting designs and is historically more budget oriented.

@toastar9554 2 ай бұрын

@PainterVierax Always placed fourth? I'm pretty sure it placed second in this video did it not?

@Dewmuss Жыл бұрын

Fantastic work Steve. Would love to see a similar round up of b650 boards.

@windrunnerKal Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of upgrading from my gaming laptop to a desktop tower in march and had already decided to go for AM5, so videos like this one are extremely helpful towards what is going to be my final build. Thank you guys so much for all the work that you do , regards from Chile.

@bigal2688 Жыл бұрын

Though my plan is to skip this Generation, I still like to stay updated on the latest and Greatest ( or not so great! LOL) so I appreciate all the work you put in here Steve! Always look forward to any CPU, GPU and Motherboard Roundups you post! Cheers!

@emidrummer1990 Жыл бұрын

Yes, finally :) thanks for all the testing, making our purchase decisions much easier! Greetings from switzerland :)

@samsolaka5435 Жыл бұрын

so which one you getting?

@Eddie276 Жыл бұрын

I just moved to Switzerland. Where do you recommend to buy parts? Galaxus and Digitech seem overpriced.

@emidrummer1990 Жыл бұрын

@@samsolaka5435waiting for more reviews. The Tuf x670e Looks promising

@mrlk665 Жыл бұрын

@@emidrummer1990 if you are not buying 7950x better quality x650e or x650 are better

@samsolaka5435 Жыл бұрын

@@emidrummer1990 what about the ASRock X670E PG Lightning ?

@kiri101 Жыл бұрын

I'm building two B650 systems but waiting keenly on more coverage. Love that you go in to detail on the VRMs etc., this is the level of content we really need.

@0hgre Жыл бұрын

Great work! Looking forward to the rest of the board tests.

@conza1989 Жыл бұрын

Loving the memory timing break down, it would be a consideration for myself and others I recommend to, to select the most aggressively timed board from XOC/XMP whatever its called now Xbow. I'm sure I'm just another voice in the choir here but it all adds up.

@dawienel1142 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, it's EXPO btw.

@chemie7037 Жыл бұрын

The ones he shows are Expo but still fairly conservative. My Asus B650e-f (I assume all Strix boards) have some presets for each memory manufacturer and they are even better (in fact, XMP would not work for me and I used presets which increased memory voltages too which needed)

@bb5307 Жыл бұрын

Would like to see a comparison between more expensive b650 boards and ''cheap'' x670 boards considering they can be even more expensive than the boards tested here.

@DiGz_Au Жыл бұрын

well done steve, looking forware to your b650 findings!! great work mate

@yenchieng Жыл бұрын

That was a masterful dub job at the beginning there, Steve!

@nordithen Жыл бұрын

Your motherboard testing is an absolute service to the community.

@DKTD23 Жыл бұрын

After a bios update I have been quite happy with the Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX. The VRM heatsinks are excellent

@n0pe_7 Жыл бұрын

Got the same Which bios version are you using? Mine only runs with version 2 stable with 6000 cl30 ram. All other versions did only reboot on jedec standart… How lobg does yours take to coldboot?

@xtrwq Жыл бұрын

@@n0pe_7 With zen 4, it seems the CPUs are and will remain the problem regarding the memory (even after bios fixes), they're the reason you can't go to 6800+, while on intel it's possible, so probably in the future with new CPUs it will be possible to get more out of these MBs.

@n0pe_7 Жыл бұрын

@@xtrwq yeah but with the oldest and the newest bios even 5200 cl40 was unstable. Now it at least runs at 6000 cl30. But am5 has still extremely long post abd boot times. Some people have to wait over 1 -2 minutes For me its 40 seconds

@xtrwq Жыл бұрын

@@n0pe_7 There are MBs where there's a option in the bios to skip memory training at startup (maybe all have it?) and it should speed that up. Not sure why it's not set on as default for all cases expect when changes have been made. I also want to get an asrock x670e RS PRO and I hope the startup isn't worse than my very old haswell system.

@n0pe_7 Жыл бұрын

@@xtrwq thanks but already tried that If i enable this option i only get a black screen for hours. Only thing is a cmos reset. Unfortunately

@MCstrickG6 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work finding this issue, helps keep big companies in check.

@nykraftlemagnifique Жыл бұрын

Great review ! We need more and more ! You made a real great work here, thank for that.

@N0N0111 Жыл бұрын

Good start of the motherboards series, finally someone is doing it. So odd all the big tech guys were skipping the head to head comparisons for motherboards. Specially now motherboards have 2x and 3x prices, Gamers would like to know where the golden nuggets are.

@glockmanish Жыл бұрын

I think the golden nuggets will be had in the B650 lineup. But as we've seen in the past, there will be some really shitty cheap boards not really capable of full TDP operation.

@flagshipdog9299 Жыл бұрын

I mean these boards are such shit that nobody should be buying or paying attention to them especially at those prices

@Robert63ish 10 ай бұрын

It has been 5 months did the MSI PRO X670-P take care of the bios? Love all your reviews thats what I go by for buying pc parts I started with tomahawk b450 and have watched you since.

@mikecarter8880 10 ай бұрын

Same question.

@cez7603 Жыл бұрын

Great work! Patiently waiting for hardware unboxed b650 reviews

@mohammedelemsalati6311 Жыл бұрын

great work, I love your motherboards videos , not many channels make them, I'm interested in the ASRock X670E Steel Legend hope you will include it in your next video

@wolfgangchristl9978 Жыл бұрын

Good to see Asrock doing well, being cheaper doesn't mean bad, they actually did a good job!

@autoglobus Жыл бұрын

The MSI B650 Tomahawk WIFI has the same issue, i checked mine and it's running the uclk at 1500 with 6000 memory. Did the manual running to get it to where it should be. No gaming difference for me though since i'm heavily GPU bottlenecked currently , but it just felt weird to not address this setting. Thank you for pointing out the issue.

@shadowred1980 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the testing you do for us.

@Xarvix Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for the AM5 motherboard reviews, since I'm pretty likely to buy an 7800X3D after the reviews are out for it. Thanks for the content, and I look forward to the rest of your motherboard reviews too!

@Awakened2001 Жыл бұрын

Gigabyte has been putting out some good MBs the last few generations. Love their b550 aorus boards. I still remember when gigabyte was coming up and i always avoided their MBs. Great video, cheers!

@Skewel Жыл бұрын

Now their boards come with coil whine for free 😍

@snowcrash512 Жыл бұрын

Not too surprising, Gigabyte has always been a solid board maker for me, maybe not as flashy, but always just work. Heck im running a 5800x3D without a problem on a Gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 board that I recall everyone saying when it first came out "it will never be able to handle a high end 8 core cpu, you will want to get a x370 for that."

@frank.bullitt Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Steve, Looking forwards to seeing the other videos, Keep up the Most Excellent Work

@jonathanmartinez8336 Жыл бұрын

You guys always got the answers. I’m waiting for your x670E reviews because that’s what I have but I know once it gets here I will know everything there is to know about my mother! So happy I found you guys channel years ago… thanks dudes!

@keffmode Жыл бұрын

Awesome. I am going to build a new computer with the 7800X3D when it releases, so this is great timing. I have it all worked out but the motherboard and RAM.

@insanejustice7922 Жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoy your new pc 💪🏽💪🏽

@keffmode Жыл бұрын

@Insane Justice Oh I'm sure I will! I have a computer on life support from 10 years ago, with an Intel 3470 as the processor. It has survived some catastrophes along the way, and for the last 4 years it has run on one 4gb 1866MHz stick. I've been really, really patient with upgrading. And now its finally time.

@rogerdouglas2306 Жыл бұрын

best ram to get gskill F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR super tight and samsung die

@insanejustice7922 Жыл бұрын

@@keffmode thanks to god

@keffmode Жыл бұрын

@@rogerdouglas2306 I will take a look at those 🙂

@elvara872 Жыл бұрын

EU prices are pretty wild for those motherboard Asrock X670E PG Lightning 350€ Gigabyte X670 Gaming X 340€ MSI Pro X670-P Wifi 380€ Asus Prime X670-P Wifi 370€ The cheapest B650 starts at 200€ switching to AM5 is pretty costly.

@xXDESTINYMBXx Жыл бұрын

If sales are bad prices go down

@nguyendinh2052 Жыл бұрын

Not sure if you're in Germany, but Asus Prime X670e was on discount for 190e recently...

@MikkoHiiri Жыл бұрын

Well done, I do enjoy these motherboard comparisons, I think that your VRM temperature tests have made these companies do more thorough design and testing before putting them on sale. There were oh so many stinker boards earlier. Thank you. 💯

@kelownatechkid Жыл бұрын

Your reviews remain so comprehensive... wow!

@LightsOut522 Жыл бұрын

My rule for MB, never cheap out on it. Overkill MB that got 4years ago, still holds to this day.

@mrlk665 Жыл бұрын

@Garrus Vakarian do that in low end MB

@twistedoracle4555 Жыл бұрын

My rule is never buy a first gen product.

@GAMMAXII Жыл бұрын

I don't want to know how that sata bank on that MSI board got bent like that.

@Hardwareunboxed Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing it's a pre-production issue as the board came like that. It still works, the plastic housing just isn't connected to the PCB.

@meomeo9392 Жыл бұрын

Awesome content! Please keep update your database about mainboard benchmarks

@tylerm.9408 Жыл бұрын

So excited for this video and the follow up!!

@toonnut1 Жыл бұрын

Gigabyte usually gives best bang for buck especially with the vrm

@Jack-he8jv Жыл бұрын

the issue of vrm is you just have to trust them that they arnt lying. like what is 16+2+1 twin digital vrm, just screams scam. i remember 8 being good if true, so 19 vrms for a 260usd board seems like they are lying.

@something3610 Жыл бұрын

These are way too expensive for what they offer. Maybe I should just go with 5000 series for my upgrade (8700k)

@timheath518 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for continueing to provide extremely detailed and accurate testing, as you and gamer nexus are my favorite channels to watch as I now build a new PC yet again. question, as someone who is looking to build a computer atm, how much do these discrepancies in either fps or performance matter at my time of watching this video? I understand bios updates come out occasionally, and I am watching this video 10 months from when it was made. thanks again for making it!

@QuickscopingDuck Жыл бұрын

Excellent and thorough review as always

@rorinsh Жыл бұрын

gigabyte very good

@FinneousPJ1 Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this content piece while speccing out my 7800X3D build for next month

@xinden_ 7 ай бұрын

You guys are just insane for everytyhing you do. Big thanks. Such a huge help.

@neekimyong Жыл бұрын

Turks work for 1 month to buy motherboards that you say are expensive.

@FutureChaosTV Жыл бұрын

Ok, so are you saying that they are not expensive?

@neekimyong Жыл бұрын

@@FutureChaosTV They are not cheap, but people living in Europe and America can buy them more easily and in a short time.

@kingplunger6033 Жыл бұрын

don't you have like crazy inflation currently?

@neekimyong Жыл бұрын

@@kingplunger6033 Yes, there is. 😢

@desultadox5900 Жыл бұрын

My MSI B650 ITX board just arrived yesterday, this is definitely good to know so I can check on that. Also nice to see Gigabyte really does put in a lot of extra effort for their premium products

@mattneilson6081 Жыл бұрын

Excellent content! Thanks for the effort. Much appreciated. ❤️

@enthusiasticgmgaming4165 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see more AM5 Motherboard Content, this X670 Budget Comparison had very surprising results I must say. This makes me very curious about how the B650 and more expensive X670/X670E Boards perform

@martinpapai919 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Steve,you are the best HW reviewer on the YT...Very high quality reviews about ALL HW not only about MB...Waiting a long for your AM5 MB review(s)...

@GTFour Жыл бұрын

You always find something interesting with your motherboard testing! 10/10

@darkschneider8508 Жыл бұрын

Excellent work Hardware Unboxed, thank you for the insightful videos, always a delight for tech nerdies 🙂

@hellraserfleshlight Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. I had given up on the expectation that this kind of coverage existed anymore.

@canberrano1widowmaker Жыл бұрын

This is a very help video! Thanks!

@nenad-ludoski-francuz Жыл бұрын

Nice video. Allways the best channel for testing.. So much details. So much effort invested, so much care, to be commended. Now is time to see same video but for b650 chipset. greeting from Serbia. :)

@stevephilips1175 Жыл бұрын

Great content and recognize & appreciate your efforts! A suggestion for your consideration: when showing multiple slides that compare each MB (or whatever) performance, leave the Item Order consistent and just fill in the performance number. That makes it easier to keep track of how the Item's change versus each other. Thank you.

@Vivicect0r Жыл бұрын

Wow, that is impressive. I am running RG Lightning board myself. Will look at those timings then. I must note that ASRock offer "performance" and "aggressive" settings instead of AGESA defaults for EXPO overclock. Need to check if there's any difference in subtimings.

@timothygallagher978 Жыл бұрын

I purchased the PG Lightning back at launch. I knew this testing was coming but I had to take the risk, my i7-3770 wasn't getting any younger. I'm glad it worked out, and glad you guys did the testing so that I don't have to wonder. I will say using this board is a little more difficult than boards in the past. Why they put stickers that gum up your ram slots is beyond me. Not having the Q code led really sucks too. Still though, at the time alot of the mobos we're in the 500's and I needed something immediately, so this ~250 board made sense.

@ralphbarnes9335 Жыл бұрын

The memory timings are super useful thanks for including them

@RicoKen2000 Жыл бұрын

yay! my friend has been waiting for the OFFICIAL b650 round up before bagging am5 ...previous b550 x570 & z590 HU roundups have been instrumental in our purchases .

@markdavies1053 Жыл бұрын

So glad to see this content happen. Thank you.

@RighteousBruce 11 ай бұрын

I have the Gigabyte Gaming X AX X670. Loving the number of m.2 slots and rear USB ports. Crazy amount of ports.

@jayjay00agnt Жыл бұрын

Glad to you're reporting on the memory as when I saw the secondary timings my Asus b650e-e loaded they looked ridiculously loose and I wasn't at first sure if they were decent and just a DDR5 characteristic or not. After spending a few days learning and tuning the timings myself, my read and write speeds have jumped over 25% and latency is 23% less than the default timings and this is at stock voltages. I’m sure a bit more could be extracted with a little extra voltage but I’m really happy with my results. I think AIDA64 or some other memory benchmarks should be ran in the future so we can see the bandwidth and latency differences for each board at stock settings.

@Gabu_Dono Жыл бұрын

I always love these amazing MB testing videos! In Europe the Asus Tuf X670E-Plus model has actually been very close at 339€ and, assuming it tests well, I’d probably go with that. For my work and peace of mind I prefer silence optimized builds, and better thermals are important in that regard.

@ethansurveski2452 11 ай бұрын

What a catch. Thank you so much Steve and Team!

@MoviePhoneGuy Жыл бұрын

I'm excited to see the full stack review! We have two of the Asus TUF X670E Wifi boards.

@krazybonnie5523 Жыл бұрын

Thanks steve(after typing that, just had intel lady saying that in my head) for the video, great to have a mobo round up for AM5

@duztdruid Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Hoping for a B650 boards roundup as well.

@kinaceman Жыл бұрын

who would have thought there would be such big difference in gaming!!! thanks for the testing!!

@TheXev Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the memory controller configuration/Timing testing! Years ago when I purchased my ASRock X470 Taichi, ASRock's default memory settings for my configuration where leading to massive instability. I blamed my Vega 64(s), an bought a used GTX 1070 thinking it was AMD's graphics drivers, and the GTX 1070 was even more unstable in my system configuration! They I got a tip that ASRock used stupid default memory controller settings for their motherboards, and to use DRAM Calc for Ryzen and just grab the memory controller settings and set them in the BIOS. After that, my Vega 64(s) were ROCK stable and I was able to help many ASRock motherboard owners make their systems stable using this exact same troubleshooting method on 400-series chipsets. I find it extremely interesting that using similar methods using 1usmus's new Hydra tool might also help in similar ways to get the same level of performance out of some of these motherboards. But for users who don't want to deal with that, this default memory configuration information and knowing which boards deal with it best out of box might be a great no nonsense way of selecting a motherboard. I really hope to see this trend f showing the default memory configurations in your motherboard reviews continue, as I am already blown away by how helpful it is.. you are even helping MSI improve their future BIOS revisions to correct these issues!

@user-yc5fq9bv3u Жыл бұрын

superb analysis loving your efforts

@flyby2300 10 ай бұрын

Excellent & exact test. Many thanks.

@wertywerrtyson5529 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Hoping for B650 tests as well. ❤

@astralcomet1 Жыл бұрын

Great review and news! Could the team do a B650 video in the future for the more “budget” boards?

@istuff1113 Жыл бұрын

Would like to see this for the b650 boards. Good work!

@gerardfraser Жыл бұрын

Awesome testing good job

@omegamark4155 Жыл бұрын

Great comparison, thanks Steve. Could you make a video that just talks in depth about audio chips in these new motherboards and hopefully last gen X570s as well? Kind of a walkthrough for gamers that use headphones and what motherboards to buy and which ones to stay away from and any possible news about upcoming improvements, if any. Even some more expensive motherboards use crappier audio chips for some reason. #1 thing I check for is the optical SPDIF connection. Only these boards I investigate further for quality audio.