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I can't believe my favorite Cheap Audio Guy also has a Cheap Watch channel! Amazing!

Oh and Orient watches are fantastic value for money, more expensive than Some invicta’s but really in a different class.

I have the Orient Kamasu and i love it i find myself wearing it all the time and also mu Orient Open heart i love but usually save for going out to dinner or what not

Great review! I'm just the opposite on watch bands however, I would be removing leather bands and replacing them with something like those watches come with. It's great to see you with this new channel, I expect it will easily match the audio channel in viewer count in time... no pun intended;-)

Congrats on your new channel! I own the Invicta by the way. It’s a good watch but needs some regular maintenance because it’s seals are not perfect but it is a nice watch

Great comparison and review!!! Thank You Randy.👍

I just found the channel, and I'm enjoying the content. Especially the music! I've ordered a few Paganis in the past and all but 1 have been a disappointment. I may have to give that Orient and Invicta a look.

Glad you have started this channel. I subscribed. The Orient with 6, 9, 12 numerials looks like a homage to the Longines Hydro Conquest, my favoriate watches. So it does look like another watch. Unlike the other two brands, the Orient is a very distinguished, highly regarded brand. It's now a division of Seiko. In 2009, Orient Watch was turned into a wholly-owned subsidiary of Seiko. Then, to create further synergy, Orient Watch was merged into Seiko Epson in 2017. Incidentally, are the end links male or female on the Orient and other watches with the metal bracelet? That will determine how well it sits on a medium to smaller wrist. Size is an important factor to me and I suspect many others. You need to measure and show the actual size of each of these watches to do a credible review. Usually the Invictas are quite large. Also, are the crystals saphire?

Awesome video dude. Definitely think the invicta watch looks good. Love my citizen pro diver though. Especially when it comes to the lume. That rock show line up sounded epic. Hope you and your channel do well in the future. Rock on.

CPW Excellent comparison,very informative , Revelatory and insightful,and Michael, thanks for your Insight also!

Just found your channel- great review and commentary on these watches. I bought an Orient Kamasu - my 1st purchase in decades- and really like it so far. I've thought heavily about trying a Pagani or an Invicta- this will help me make that decision!

Ah, I was thinking, that’s gotta be the Cheap Audio Dude. All the best with your new channel.

Great review sir, you have gained a new subscriber and I will definately be watching your previous videos as well as looking forward to upcoming videos as well

Good job with your presentation I find that my Citizens hold up well too. I look forward to your future Videos! I like your ideas for comparisons, I have an after market Citizen band that has what the usual band lack that of on your wrist adjustment ( The band offers about 1/2 inch or 5 clicks of expansion…well Keep on Keeping on!

Dude changing the bands every other shot is f'ing me up i don't know wth i'm looking at. ty

thank you Randy I have spent about $35,000 on Alibaba watches. I very much respect your analysis and look forward to much more. love and light

Yupz, great video there man... I'm rooting for the Mako II as well... 😁 It's just sooooo underrated...

Great channel. I mean both channels ;) im audio fan,also huge wach fan. Like your videos. Greatings from Lithuania.

I have subscribed, love your channel, all the best for your future videos🍾🥂🎉👍

Great point of view, my favorite part is how it makes you feel when you wear it . I tell that to everyone as I switch threw my collection, Thanks for the video.

Youve made me feel.better about my collection! Thank you?

I like your audio channel, and I know I’m going to like the watch channel too! Keep up the great work!

Great video. I'm a huge Orient watch fan. I own 4 of them and am crazy happy with all of them. You got a new sub from me.

Orient is raising it's prices! they are superb watches but the price Raise makes me very glad I bought my Mako,Ray and Kamasu A while ago!

Thanks for the reviews, what about the accuracy of each watgh?

Nice reviews, quite enjoyable to watch👏

I had a Mako and I agree with you, it was a really nice watch and I always enjoyed wearing it. I only sold it off as I was moving out of the country and so I decided to keep only one watch and clear out the rest.

Congrats on the new channel. Check out the San Martin Dive Watch MM300. It uses a single piece shell (access to the parts is from the front only - no back). Rated for 300M. Automatic (NH 35A) movement. Its priced at $250 but does go on sale closer to the $200 price point.

Great video, keep up the great work! Subscribed.

I really like mechanical watches, I also own a Seiko 5. It is a classic and it has bulletproof mechanism; it is available with different designs and sizes

I picked up an Invicta Pro Diver in blue and gold during Black Friday and it only cost me $30. That is IMO a phenomenal deal for what I got. I'm more than satisfied with my purchase.

Just discovered your chanel and have subscribed. Great video. Only suggestion is to maybe have a more consistent naming scheme (eg sometime calling it the mako vs the orient)

I own several Orient divers - 1 blue Mako II, 2 Ray II (blue and orange), 1 dark red Mako III aka Kamasu - and some Invicta automatic Pro Divers - 2 black 40 mm with Omega style bezels, 1 blue open heart, 1 all black "Vintage" - and all I can say is that excepting the small crown the Orient is a far better watch: better finish, better looking bezel, FAR better lume, more stable mechanism. Not to mention that it's not a copy - sorry, "hommage" - of the Submariner. Yes, it's slightly more expensive, but it's worth every extra penny.

Great comparison video! I love my Orient Kamasu. It's on a midnight blue Holben's rubber strap. You are making me want to buy an Invicta. lol

Wow! Nice to see that you started another channel! I hope this gets to be as successful as the cheap audio man channel. The raised indices on the dial perimeter of the Orient is the called the chapter ring while the stainless ring on the Invicta is called the rehaut. Mechanically, I think they serve the same purpose. I agree, the watch should make you feel good regardless of the price. You should enjoy staring at it, looking at very small details. The lume of a dive watch should really pop and last long. Orient is a good brand (owned by Seiko) and has good designs too.

wth, I thought this was fake. Didn't expect that you have a dedicated watch channel. Keep it up Randy! 💪🏽

Have a couple of Invictas and an Orient dress watch. Very happy with them and No complaints. (Not a complaint but the Lum just doesn't last long on all but at sub $150 each, No Problemo)

I don't have the Pagani featured but have others and your thoughts and observations for this group of watches almost echo my own. In most cases the rattly bracelets come off straight away except for the Orient one which I can live with. Bezels and lume don't' matter too much, I'm never going diving in it! Enjoyed your vlog, I'll pop over to your audio channel as I suffer with that addiction to, cheers.

New subscriber here. Thanks for your video post. I started collecting inexpensive watches last year. I call them inexpensive because none of them, new or used, did i pay more than $200 for. Actually out of forty watches, only two did I pay no more than $135 each. My collection consists of Benyar, Bulova, Burei, Casio, Citizen, G Gallant, Invicta, Orient, Stuhrling Original, Timex. I also have a Victorinox and a Hamilton that were gifted to me. Both are used and I have not inquired of their values. I buy what catches my eye and falls within my self set limit of under $200. I have automatics, handwinds, and Quartz. Not worried or intimidated by watch snobs, I like what I like, I wear what I can afford, and I sleep all night.

Sorry for the late comment. So Randy, what aftermarket band/bracelet did you get for your Mako 2?

Enjoying the new channel, Randy. The NH35 movements are all from Seiko’s commercial movement wholesale subsidiary. You might want to consider reviewing bands and straps (as many of us buy many for each watch).

Randy, While I'm here, subscribed to your new channel as well; thoughts on Powered PSB AM5's versus Passive P5's with a budget Bluetooth amplifier like Fosi Audio or similar?

I don’t even care about watches just love hearing you explain things. Keep up the good content brother

I wish you well with the channel 🙏 I've watched a few channels since there beginning they have done well you seem to be on a good start. As far as the watches go I like the Orient best I've never bought one because of their logo

Ok - some helpful criticism on watch reviews. I have about 10 reviewers I subscribe to and a bunch more I look at occasionally. Give a quick run down on specs. No where did you talk about size -at least give a diameter and lug to lug because it's important to people to have an idea whether they think it's too big or small etc. Crystal - is it mineral, is it sapphire, does it have AR etc. You didn't touch on the other big thing that can differentiate watches, especially in this end of the market, case finishing. Hard to give an accurate "value" when we don't know all of the specs. Personally, I have the Mako (in blue) and the PD in a white dial in my collection. The bracelet on the PD is fine for me except where it meets the end links. It just doesn't sit properly. I usually swap out the bracelets for rubber, leather or Natos anyway. I think the Orient is the best of the 3 just based on the watches head to head. Couple that with a long history of a big brand and warranty it's much better. Dislike Invicta's with a passion due to their marketing of a "$795" watch for $85 and the BS Swiss Brand connection they've hyped for the last 10 plus years. PD is a homage brand but tends to be high spec for the price. IMO, the Orient will retain much of it's resale value in years to come and the Inviticta and PD will be near worthless on the used market.

don't forget the Mako 2 is an ISO rated diver, so its 200m water resistance is reliable (and the winner by miles and miles IMO).....plenty of better Paganis you could have chosen from but I get you dig the Seamaster look, I've owned a couple and found them solid beaters so next time perhaps check out the yachty and GMT homages _OR_ broaden the horizon and try a Parnis, I love 'em... and the Invicta? Well its nothing if not divisive but I love mine in black with the scalloped bezel....good luck with the channel, I dig the delivery, subbed to see where you go with it, cheers!

Good job. Suscribed dude.

Awesome work 🌻, i want to see more videos like that, hope you will upload some videos of fossil, titan, Tommyhilfiger, Casio, sekio automatic watches related,

I like the unique styling of the Vostok Amphibia. I’d like to see your comparison between the Invicta and the Vostok.

I just bought a 40mm iridescent Invicta Pro Diver for $60. The seemingly changing colors make me happy and I find myself staring at the watch quite often.

I just got my Invicta last winter for $46 (plus tax and $8 to adjust the band). My first automatic and very happy with the purchase.

Great review, but I would be interested in hearing your opinion on considering the kamasu rather than the mako, primarily for the upgrade in crystal to sapphire.

Hahaha, I saw White Zombie back in 96 along when they toured with Pantera and the Deftones. It was an outdoor event at the Nissan Pavilion in VA. The only thing crazier than their stage show was the severe thunderstorm that started the moment they got on stage, and stopped when they got off. Freakiest memory from a concert ever. They're a bit too evil for me... lol

I love your Cheap Audio Man channel. Please do more critical review to Pagani Design watches, it will improvement them to higher level on affordable price range..

I have the pagani 007 with black dail and gold trim, on the rubber strap and i love it, 😁

Thank you so much!

I collect Invicta automatics because they have great Seiko nh35 type movements and they can be had for under $50 us directly from Invicta stores.

The movement difference, regarding the NH variants just make reference to a date complication or not

Can you please do a video explaining watch terminology and nomenclature.

I’ve got three pro divers, more than a decade old, and I have absolutely gotten my money’s worth.

Having had a Invicta pro diver, and Orient Mako v1 with the day pusher, and a Pagani Designs No time to Die Omega homage, I like the Pagani least despite the fact that it checks the boxes with sapphire, ceramic etc. It just feels like somebody put it together in their bathroom. I would say Orient first, Invicta second and Pagani 3rd

Love that you're doing this channel... Loved the Audio channel too.. Orient has a proud heritage and carries some significant horilogical significance. It's inspired by the Rolex Submariner for sure but with its own little nuance... add in the fact that it's an in house movement with better complications versus the Chinese variant of the Seiko NH35, and it's a real winner. A category you overlooked would be the crystal... and it's important... you should include that. Watches with sapphire will almost always be better... You should step up the price category... Orient Kamasu, Deep Blue Nato 300, there is actually a FANTASTIC Pagani homage to the Speedmaster... Anyway, thanks for the great channels... 👍

I wonder can you review Tandorio line. I bought a field watch from them, a Hamilton homage most probably. And saw that they have the widest range of homages. The usual rolex submariner, SKX007, cap. Willard, Tuna but then there’s unimatic, seiko monster and even SKX013 homages which I never see.

I have a Pagani GMT and Invicta pro divers, I like the milled clasp on the Pagani WAY more than the stamped clasp on the Invictas.

I've been looking at the Vosstok Amphibian. Would you be able to do a review on that watch?

I have a Strapcode Jubilee on my Mako II. Fantastic.

Try a beads of rice bracelet on Mako. It's a watch that's shines by the way it sits on the wrist comfortably and beads of rice bracelet takes this comfortable wear to another level.

The Invicta pro diver Highline a call has a solid bracket bracket bracket bracelet I have two of them and that is the later edition of the psycho movement which are both watches and they’re very reliable and I can show you watch is 15 $1700 automatic with the same mechanism same part number psycho and you know Japanese they put things pretty good

I think all these brand are under estimated in regards to value. Never had problem with any of them. Love all 3 of them. There other brands that use the same internals and charge 3x times the price.

Maybe check out Ratio when you get a chance. I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Love the Orient. I have the Mako with the orange dial. I'm always getting comments on it. Check out a Martini Racing inspired strap for the blue Mako to give it a fun vibe.

I have the Orient Mako in the black dial and had the same idea as you. So I picked up the Strapcode Orient Mako II oyster style bracelet. Milled clasp, solid end links, screw links. Makes it on par with watches hundreds of dollars more.

Still prefer my seiko skx007k the movement mabie as good but it's still a tough movement got mine 2008 and it's till going strong and looks brand new and has held its value.

Nice review. Pagani has so many nice models like Aqua Tera and such and different sizes. Orient is probably the best but I don't like all of their dial design. If you want the watch that will hold the value, buy Orient.

The orient kamsu is extraordinary!

Not really a fan of any of those three choices frankly. Of those 3, I would probably go with the Orient. I've got several dive watches including a Seiko Turtle, an Amphibia, a citizen Pro Master, and a Casio Duro. Tried an Invicta pro diver (Quartz) once, and it bit the dust within 6 months. Granted, it wasn't the mechanical version but my limited (and future) experience with Invicta pretty much ended right then. Anyway, bought the Casio Duro for a work/beater watch and I have been pleasantly surprised. It is a very good watch for the low cost. Highly recommend it if someone is looking for a dive watch below the $100 mark.

You should try the Matic Seamaster homage.

Review of the new Pagani Design PD1685? PLEASE!!!

I love the Orient ray 2 in the blue& orange dials and the all black raven ray. and yes, the hands are known as 'Roman sword' style and I love them too. I loathe the Rolex style Invicta hands. That circular end? hate it. the rays used to have the push button day advance just fyi

Just found this channel the other day ....... my head would explode trying to review the audio channel and this wow .... your a machine aren't you lol

I own the Orient Ray II. For me, it's pretty much perfect EXCEPT for that same small, smooth crown.

Citizen Promaster Automatic Diver NY0086 (Pepsi bezel) or 0085 (Coke bezel); excellent diver less than $200

What about the Orient Kamasu? It has a sapphire crystal.

Something new Randy. Ok, I'm in and also into watches. Consider the following... These are "automatic" dive watches. For Best Diver under $200 its the Casio Enduro for value. It is not even close. It now comes in 6 colors and is less than $50. Add a nato strap and you are looking good for less than $70 all in. This is however a great review of these three Automatic Divers. Looking forward to more. Thumbs up!

I had the Invicta Pro Diver and just recently picked up the Orient Ray II. First off, I decided against the Pagani because it only had a 100 meter rating while the Invicta and the Orient both had a 200 meter ratings. Both the NH35/a and the F6922 movements found in the Invicta and the Orient are outstanding movements for the price points. The 24 jewel movement of the NH35 is a good jewel count and had two more than the F6922. In my experience though, the F6922 movement seemed a much smoother and better movement than the NH35. It also kept far more accurate time straight out of the box. The Orient is running 3 seconds a day fast while the Invicta is running about 10 to 12 seconds a day fast. 10 to 12 seconds a day accuracy is outstanding considering the price point of the Invicta. Nevertheless, I was impressed 6 ways to Sunday over the accuracy of the Orient Ray II. Reading the reviews on both watches, and there were many reviews, these differences in accuracy that I experienced are in line with what others have experienced also. I like both watches, but the Orient won out over the Invicta for me. I eventually passed my Invicta Pro Diver on to my grandson and he loves it. Like I said, both watches are awesome watches for the price points, I just preferred the Orient Ray II due to the smoothness and accuracy of the movement over the Invicta's movement. I have to agree with you on the bracelet though, for roughly $50 more dollars in price Orient could have had a little better fit and finish on the bracelet. It is not a deal breaker, but could be better. The quality of the bracelet itself is better than the Invicta but not as well finished in the fit to the case. The Orient Ray II has a little better fit than the Mako though. The only difference between the Orient Ray II and the Mako is the numbers on the face verses the markers and the style of bracelet. Other than that they are the same watch. Nice review and I appreciate your channel. Looking forward to more videos.

I have orient king diver 21 jowels ...... Just asking how much it Worth

Nice but… Best ever is the Citizen eco-drive. The seal never needs breaking (it’s solar powered) and has large actual numbers 1-12.

Does anyone know a reliable watch repair for repairs to a vintage Mido watch. This Mido has great sentimental value as it was a presentation to my Uncle for decades of exceptional service to the Blue Lodge in Cristobal, Canal Zone by members of the lodge.

Is there some reason the bezel on my Invicta is so stiff I just about need a pair a pliers to turn it? Or are dive watches supposed to be like that?

First YTer I've heard say, I want to review shit, but I can't afford it and no one is sending me shit for free. 😂🤩 First time visitor to the channel, and I have to say; I like and agree with everything you said here. Good job! I have the Invicta Pro Diver in 42mm. Replaced the bracelet with a bond nato. A nato or rubber strap for the Pro Diver is the way to go. I like Orient Mako and Kamasu lines but I really dislike the Day Date complications. I just want a date comp or no comps at all on my divers.

I've had TWO Invicta Pro Divers (quartz movement). First one lasted about two years (worn daily) before it crapped out. I thought the battery died. Nope - watch died. I thought "well, I got unlucky and got a bad one." Bought an identical one to replace it (I REALLY liked the watch). Little over a year later, that one died. Loved the look and wear resistance, but the watch is CRAP. Maybe the automatic is much better?

The only watch I get compliments on is my blue Orient Ray II. Orient makes beautiful watches for the money. I'm curious if you actually tried using the bezel on the Orient. In the Mako and Ray II, they are very difficult to turn. I'd recommend checking out the Pagani 1701 V3 Speed master homage. Finishing on the bracelet isn't great but it's not a terrible bracelet. It has a very accurate Seiko quartz movement and puts the MoonSwatch to shame.

The Casio MTD line also has a model or two with screw down crowns and a 200M range of water resistance. My introduction to this line was an MTD 1010 that i bought at a Walmart store years ago. it was rated at 100M without a screw down crown. MTDs are battery operated quartz watches. This week i bought an MTD 1053 with a screw down crown and a rating of 200M. Around 100.00 dollars but i think searching could find one for less. I only consider coin edge bezels they are the classic style. My first watch ever was a Classic Casio Arnie, the first generation with the pushers across from each other. At least this was the first model that sold like crazy as big and somewhat water resistant at 100M.

I think the short coming to these watches is cheap glass, no sapphire. For Invicta, go for grand diver 38mm instead, you get solid end link, plus 100 meters extra water resistance, for little more money.

Wait…WHAT?? ROB ZOMBIE IS STILL ALIVE? OK, never mind. Nice job Randy. Very happy to see your new channel. Let’s see your watch collection sometime soon. Rock on

Nice review thanks. I own the Mako 2 for a long time now and still love it. I changed the bezel to a Seiko one with full lume. It's a complete other watch now. I think I go for an Invicta. You cannot go wrong for the price I guess. By the way: Put the Orient on a NATO strap. It looks amazing!

Invicta go down to mid 50 dollar range on prime day and black Friday pretty regularly.

The clasp on the Pagani is far better than the other two. At least it is solid. If I had to chose any of them, I would give up on watches LOL

Price is only a reflection of what you want to project. Wear what you like & enjoy it.