Cheating at hand cut dovetails

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MatthiasWandel

MatthiasWandel

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Using my pantorouter to make some half-blind dovetails -- the type that are typically cut by hand with a chisel. The matching tails are then cut with a bandsaw. woodgears.ca/dovetail/handcut....

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@KaiPlews
@KaiPlews 9 жыл бұрын
Expect a mob of men with long bushy beards wearing leather aprons at your door at any moment.
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 9 жыл бұрын
Cheating at handcut dovetails. Using the pantorouter.... of course! But still a lot of work that way. more details here: woodgears.ca/dovetail/handcut.html
@paulodeoliveira3368
@paulodeoliveira3368 9 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel You Mr Wandel are a show off!
@obieezx11
@obieezx11 9 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel there a wood working guy that invented a saw blade that you make 4 cuts on a square bit of wood glue the edges and fold it into a box and clamp it the box took a fair bit to kick it apart mabye u should buy 1
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 9 жыл бұрын
obieezx11 Yes, I get emailed about that so often, it's in the FAQ. But the blade is much less practical than the video makes it look.
@WhitentonMike
@WhitentonMike 9 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel I'd love to see your take on the clover joint using the pantorouter. The template would be the tricky part I would think. www.onlinetoolreviews.com/reviews/leighd1600.htm
@mickstephenson
@mickstephenson 9 жыл бұрын
Mike Whitenton I'm sure it could be done in exactly the same way as this video, only you probably couldn't get away with cutting the tails on a band saw and would have to use a scroll saw instead.
@tomek
@tomek 9 жыл бұрын
Watching your videos helps me relax on a stressful day, thank you.
@PhilippeCarphin
@PhilippeCarphin 7 жыл бұрын
Same for me. I don't do wood working at all.
@NOLAMarathon2010
@NOLAMarathon2010 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool! This might be intriguing: leave the pins with rounded interior curves, rather than finishing them off to an acute angle with a chisel. Then use the pantarouter to cut the tails with rounded edges, too. It might produce a nice effect! And you could call it the "Wandel joint".
@superdeviljuice1390
@superdeviljuice1390 Жыл бұрын
I especially love that you don’t care that it was not perfect. And didn’t spend half the video trying to make it perfect, I thank you for that
@ScrapwoodCity
@ScrapwoodCity 9 жыл бұрын
I like the scraping tip between coats! The came out nice!
@danapatelzick9812
@danapatelzick9812 8 жыл бұрын
I went to school in Australia and the examination test pieces with three different dovetail joints were difficult. To get joints like yours would take a lot of practice. It looks a lot easier to use power tools. Still, it takes a lot of skill to do what you did. Thanks.
@bonearete5419
@bonearete5419 8 жыл бұрын
I can just watch you work the whole day. Really like your tools and admire your knowledge and skill in using them. Enjoy watching you work. Thank you for posting.
@davidpaulbryant
@davidpaulbryant 9 жыл бұрын
It was nice to see that even the master can forget a simple step sometimes. It makes me feel better about my constant "hoping I won't have to tear it all the way apart" episodes.
@spcornelissen
@spcornelissen 9 жыл бұрын
I'm certainly jealous about your home made tools and jigs.... and ideas and skills. This was a well done project.
@mcremona
@mcremona 9 жыл бұрын
How timely, I'm about to head out to the shop to make 2 dovetailed drawers. Should make for a nice tedious afternoon :)
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 9 жыл бұрын
Matthew Cremona Several guys have commented that they could cut them faster than it took me to set up and make them. But I guess it's really not that fast.
@mcremona
@mcremona 9 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel I'm pretty sure this is way faster than anything I could do. Maybe if I didn't care how they looked.
@Neurmens
@Neurmens 9 жыл бұрын
4:08 Are you crazy man?!?! Hi from Argentina!
@womaninwood9177
@womaninwood9177 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@jibba0202
@jibba0202 3 жыл бұрын
Without even looking at 4:08 i knew that this was referring to!
@nintendolunchbox
@nintendolunchbox 9 жыл бұрын
Just because you found a way to mechanize the process in no way makes it fake. It just makes you awesome. :)
@to_a_nico
@to_a_nico 4 жыл бұрын
Anything worth doing is worth the time it takes to get good at it. Spend your shop time making jigs, you get good at making jigs. Spend that time cutting joints, and you'd be amazed how quickly you can put a drawer like this together and be proud that you made it by hand. That's a skill you keep forever.
@danjrhue
@danjrhue 9 жыл бұрын
I can't wait until I have the time to build my pantorouter! Thank you for all you do Matthias.
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 9 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done! Nicely finished too. The hand chiseling and freehand bandsaw cuts were just imprecise enough to make the joints plausibly hand-cut.
@nevermindthebull0cks
@nevermindthebull0cks 7 жыл бұрын
I made 35 raised panel doors a while ago and after a while you kind of get tired of cleaning up the glue squeeze out. I have seen Matthias use sawdust so often that I figured I would give it a try. Mistake. It may work ok on flat joinery where sandpaper can easily get, but on the profiled inside corners you get to use a chisel to get little flecks of it back off. I went back to using a coffee cup of water and an old toothbrush, then just wipe it with a rag. This get all of the glue off and leaves it ready for stain. Takes a little time depending on how much glue there is, but it's still faster than using a chisel later.
@mikesmith6566
@mikesmith6566 8 жыл бұрын
Matthias, I love to watch your videos because you make it look so easy.. You have given me a wealth of info on how to do things myself! I look forward to each week's "lesson" . you are a very talented person and I appreciate the sharing of your knowledge.. Keep upthe great videos!!!! I would love to live near you so I could visit in person.. Thanks!!
@franmaric
@franmaric 9 жыл бұрын
I lovee the look of that dovetail joints!Nice contrast.Great video as always they are!
@14bc
@14bc 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew you are my hero. Woodworking for the engineer types.
@thosoz3431
@thosoz3431 9 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Matthias. You have inspired me so much and in some ways changed my life ! I have just finished the Tennon jig and am doing my first test cuts. Keep up the great work. Tom in Oz
@plunder1956
@plunder1956 9 жыл бұрын
I love the little parking spot for the router spanner. It's a tiny detail, but it saves searching for it like a crazy person.
@moonblink
@moonblink 8 жыл бұрын
It's not cheating man; you're just going about it a different way.Thanks for the video, watch those fingers!
@ngopiterus
@ngopiterus 8 жыл бұрын
yeaa,. watch your finger :(
@ollynx6109
@ollynx6109 8 жыл бұрын
04:08 xD
@mickstephenson
@mickstephenson 9 жыл бұрын
Next you'll be showing us how to use the pantorouter to forge Da Vinci's
@johnperez3212
@johnperez3212 5 жыл бұрын
Dude i like your ingenuity, keep the videos coming.
@birthcertificate7223
@birthcertificate7223 7 жыл бұрын
4:08 how to stain wood with blood
@simonnicholson5913
@simonnicholson5913 9 жыл бұрын
It looks great. Good contrast between the two woods.
@Gaehhn
@Gaehhn 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Matthias, I'm learning joinery right now and had to do most handmade joints in school. I like the design of dovetail joints, they really are a lot of work to do by hand entirely but are worth the effort. Making them with your pantorouter is ingenious but i think it's only practical if you make them in greater numbers. Even an inexperienced joinery apprentice like myself can make well-fitting dovetail joints in about an hour so you mostly save labor and not much time on a single box.
@brainsironically
@brainsironically 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Came out very well for your first attempt; much better than my first attempt will come out.
@positivevibes4646
@positivevibes4646 6 жыл бұрын
I love the tedious chisel work! :) great job!
@thinkaboowebsite9012
@thinkaboowebsite9012 8 жыл бұрын
You should probably sell plans for work benches like yours or the whole system. It's brilliant! Tanks for sharing.
@jocmarti
@jocmarti 9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Miller posted an article in Fine Woodworking on how he makes dovetail joints on the tablesaw (not half blind). I saw him go through the process and it is very fast and accurate. He said he so rarely hand cuts the dovetails because the saw is so much faster and no one knows the difference.
@warp9988
@warp9988 9 жыл бұрын
Results are quite pretty. Nice!
@ComeOnYouBoyzInBlue
@ComeOnYouBoyzInBlue 6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe a channel like this has 1 million subs, amazing
@Garageworkshop
@Garageworkshop 9 жыл бұрын
Another great use of the pantorouter!
@beanxlj
@beanxlj 9 жыл бұрын
oh, I love this video, route out the pin board first is a great idea. I'll definitely use that on my next project
@vitorbeca3094
@vitorbeca3094 7 жыл бұрын
As usual... great work and great ideas. Thank you for sharing!!
@1496vids1492
@1496vids1492 8 жыл бұрын
I got a reminder of do not put your finger close to the blade with the reciprocating saw a few months ago. 7 stitches . Even though I work as a contractor I can still be a dummy. The rule is don't put your hand { or any body parts} in front or back of the cutting area. Break the rule and get a lesson the hard way. My finger healed now with most of the feeling back. All the best for being safe. I enjoy Matthias Wandel Vids
@rustyroo22
@rustyroo22 9 жыл бұрын
Whacked my index finger demonstrating how to nail pencil boxes to my year 7 class yesterday. Great video, thanks.
@version191
@version191 9 жыл бұрын
You have the best channel on youtube.
@Doomsday51225
@Doomsday51225 9 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work. I've enjoyed all your videos.
@Castrowoodworks
@Castrowoodworks 9 жыл бұрын
The craftsmanship is very good
@volcsiorion
@volcsiorion 8 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel you are a good man, who deserves respect because you share your knowledge giving help for many! As for the hand tool work however I prefer making dovetails by hand! Why? Because I enjoy every moment of it! I consider the whole process as a chalange for me! Chalange for the eye for the hand, for the nerves! Hand made work can make me relax! And man vs. machine is a good game:) The speed of the machine, its noise its shaking is not my taste! As Archimedes said: Don't disturbe my circles! :) It would be my message for power tools if they had ears:)
@mjenk20236
@mjenk20236 9 жыл бұрын
Love the panto router. If I had to make a dozen drawers where I could use the same setup over and over it would be great. The next step is to make double blind dovetail miters using the panto router.
@clorenzetti
@clorenzetti 7 жыл бұрын
props for the wedge spacers to adjust the heigh of the router !!
@MikeAndLaurenTV
@MikeAndLaurenTV 9 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to "handcut" your template so there are natural inaccuracies in all future joints.
@Jordy86161
@Jordy86161 9 жыл бұрын
I was watching this with my mounth open.. I'm stunned, this will make life so much easier!
@Amethysthumphries
@Amethysthumphries 9 жыл бұрын
that "voila" was made my day! ^^ I'm gonna try that technique, I never thought that of doing it that way ;)
@lol5776
@lol5776 8 жыл бұрын
This is really satisfying to watch.
@duckstab
@duckstab 9 жыл бұрын
I liked the look of the rounded pins that the panto made. I'd like to see a joint made with the tails rounded too.
@WarBerJr02
@WarBerJr02 9 жыл бұрын
If you enjoy your panto router as much as you seem to, you probably ought to make all of your joints with the panto router. With that set up, it doesn't matter if you cut out the rounded edges or not, you can make rounded pins to match the rounded spaces...
@BattleBornFLB
@BattleBornFLB 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Matthias!
@MrOnionRing
@MrOnionRing 9 жыл бұрын
Answer me this, WHYYYYY do you have to be so friggin adorable?
@snoozinglion8596
@snoozinglion8596 8 жыл бұрын
I like your honesty! :)
@streamleazefishhouse
@streamleazefishhouse 9 жыл бұрын
No idea why I watched this but you're really talented to be able to do that....
@1stMrSceptical
@1stMrSceptical 9 жыл бұрын
I'm with you there Matthias. I did all the benchwork when I was an apprentice. Learning to use handtools first is a must, after which only pick them up when all else fails.
@stubee3924
@stubee3924 9 жыл бұрын
1stMrSceptical Why a must? You don't need to learn to ride a bike to then learn to drive a car.
@bigwoz78
@bigwoz78 9 жыл бұрын
Your pantorouter is very nice
@1habicher
@1habicher 5 жыл бұрын
Very fine job, I will try this! It is the best of the very best! Nicely made Video!
@mayae.7951
@mayae.7951 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoy all these videos. Thank you! 😊
@BrianHolcombewoodworker
@BrianHolcombewoodworker 8 жыл бұрын
Matthias, if you want to tighten up those joints; mark your baselines on both pieces with the same gauge setting. Having a preset reference for both sides of the joint will ensure that, so you long as you cut the baseline and socket depth accurately to your mark, the fit will be right one.
@googlesbitch
@googlesbitch 9 жыл бұрын
Best and cheapest method to fill gaps is to collect the matching sawdust and make a wood dust/glue slurry mix and then work it in to the gaps with a taping knife. I start off with wood glue and add water until glue has a thick clam chowder consistency. Then I add fine sawdust into glue and stir until it is thick as mash potato or thicker. Certain woods such as oak has higher tannin levels so if you spread filler with a metal knife, you must work quickly or else filler will blacken from contact with metal.
@tonkatoy200
@tonkatoy200 5 жыл бұрын
Now I know why you have 1.5 million followers! That router jig is insane!
@HovingtonInstruments
@HovingtonInstruments 9 жыл бұрын
Dovetails are a lot of work, I finished a dovetail toolchest about 3 months ago and there isn't one fastener on the whole built. It looks awesome though and I think with hand cut dovetail you get the extra reward and pride of being able to say that you cut them by hand. If your interested in seeing it there is a video on my channel.. I love your thought process I must admit, Using the pantorouter to make halfblinds.. I would never have thought of that!
@richardsolomon5375
@richardsolomon5375 4 жыл бұрын
Cause making a complex wood machine is merely childs play for the god of woodworking! Bow down you mortals!
@AndreaArzensek
@AndreaArzensek 9 жыл бұрын
For your fans only, do the pocket holes with your pantorouter :) This was great!
@JeffreyFrazee
@JeffreyFrazee 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I get a kick out of your stuff. I live in an entirely different part of the world where time and skill are of little value. (I know, it's hard for a westerner to imagine.) But I kind of dream of a life like yours that affords the time, space, and privacy necessary to do all the cool stuff you do! Keep it up!
@IanTranSend
@IanTranSend 8 жыл бұрын
Haha! Here I was thinking he was going without any powertools by hand after showing the router bit--and then it's pantorouter and bandsaw. Fair play!
@mariomuranaka9751
@mariomuranaka9751 4 жыл бұрын
Very good idea, congratulations !
@rynaldijonathan8559
@rynaldijonathan8559 8 жыл бұрын
salam kenal pak Matthias Wandel... saya dari Indonesia saya senang sekali dapat nonton program-program yang bapak buat tentang peralatan, alat-alat sampai hasil karya rumah tangga yang bapak buat yang semua berbahan kayu.....BRAVO pak Wandel terima kasih sudah memberikan inspirasi untuk saya dan teman-teman youtubers
@pickles632
@pickles632 9 жыл бұрын
that is a lovely box sir
@MakeSomething
@MakeSomething 9 жыл бұрын
That's impressive!
@studiohilary
@studiohilary 7 жыл бұрын
i have worked on finishes for years i have never thought of scraping. i personally would still finish with sand paper but scraping cuts alot of bs out. interesting step.
@pedroaraujodesign1
@pedroaraujodesign1 5 жыл бұрын
You are "the Boss"! Greetings from Brazil!
@johnnygrandolfi4143
@johnnygrandolfi4143 8 жыл бұрын
you wor it's a very good work, congratulations. I'll learn much with you. Keep on.
@5thearth
@5thearth 8 жыл бұрын
I actually like the look of the rounded dovetails that result from the pantorouter pre-chiseling-- they might even be stronger, since the rounded corners will avoid stress concentrations.
@timhitt5934
@timhitt5934 8 жыл бұрын
you're very skilled wish I had your talent!
@mattpenko
@mattpenko 9 жыл бұрын
I really wanna see you do a double blind dovetail joint.
@petejohnson5969
@petejohnson5969 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool man. Obviously you save a ton of time but you also jeopardize the quality of the finished work.
@juliocvieiragmail
@juliocvieiragmail 9 жыл бұрын
U r great Matthias..thanks for sharing
@frabcescodantonio6054
@frabcescodantonio6054 8 жыл бұрын
Caro Matthias, ti faccio tanti complimenti perchè sei veramente molto bravo. Un saluto da Palermo
@leostoltoy
@leostoltoy 8 жыл бұрын
Finally, a novice woodworker like me has a way of 'cheating' at hand-cut dovetails. All I have to do is build a pantorouter :D
@AndrewKleinWW
@AndrewKleinWW 9 жыл бұрын
It turned out very good, I think I'd be at least using the bandsaw "cheat" if I was doing this.
@ermiszaxaridis1780
@ermiszaxaridis1780 8 жыл бұрын
you are crazy man ....i can belive you... i never see like you ..from greece
@illustriouschin
@illustriouschin 7 жыл бұрын
i would leave those corners round, they look good and it's probably a bit stronger.
@infocpctrainer
@infocpctrainer 7 жыл бұрын
when you have no panterouter thingy, us diyers have to stick to dowels and biscuits. but hey its great watching you experimenting
@BCElginTex
@BCElginTex 9 жыл бұрын
I liked the way the dovetail looked when it was still rounded. I'd never seen a joint like that. Is it a thing? I might try making something with a 'rounded dovetail joint'. I don't have a pantorouter; so I'll have to make up some jigs.
@johnymcmememan2151
@johnymcmememan2151 3 жыл бұрын
I don't necessarily like your style but I'll admit that is this is a pretty genius solution
@coxsj
@coxsj 9 жыл бұрын
Might look cool to leave the cornes of the dovetails round and shape the pins to match?
@jim_no_rulers
@jim_no_rulers 9 жыл бұрын
Nice joints! I use an old credit card as a scraper for finishing. I joint the edge of the card to keep it 'sharp' with a hand-plane on its side. The card seems to work better when being 'pushed' bottom forward, as opposed to traditional 'dragging' scraping with a cabinet scraper.
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 9 жыл бұрын
jim187187 You for finishing scraping? I can't imagine it taking off much wood.
@jim_no_rulers
@jim_no_rulers 9 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel Sorry if I wasn't clear or used improper terminology. I meant for the process that you demonstrated in the video, where you removed bumps from your varnish/laquer between coats.
@Dwohman
@Dwohman 8 жыл бұрын
would love to see the plans on your router jig
@baconsoda
@baconsoda 9 жыл бұрын
That looks grand. I don't do flat work so I'll probably be dragged out and burned at the stake for this question. Would it be some type of Mortal Sin if you were to leave the radius in the corners of the dovetail joint? I think that would look pretty good. Best Wishes, Brendan.
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 9 жыл бұрын
baconsoda I guess that's another way. but I wanted to make these look like typical handcut ones.
@baconsoda
@baconsoda 9 жыл бұрын
Matthias Wandel I appreciate that but just thought the round corners looked pretty cool. Thanks for getting back to me. Best Wishes, Brendan.
@Sukrim
@Sukrim 9 жыл бұрын
baconsoda I actually would also do them in that rounded style (though it might require routing the "male" pieces on the pantorouter too compared to the probably easier bandsaw job), it looks quite nice.
@chrisbednarsky17
@chrisbednarsky17 7 жыл бұрын
So many bits and machines and all of that can be done with a saw and a chisel.
@EnterpriseKnight
@EnterpriseKnight 6 жыл бұрын
You're probably the most pragmatic guy on youtube.
@jonboystreasure
@jonboystreasure 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool Work! I still want you to make me one of those Pantorouters,LOL!
@abner20bushi
@abner20bushi 4 жыл бұрын
I can't express how satisfied I am to see you trolling the "purists" a.k.a. idiots. You're brilliant.
@ginoasci2876
@ginoasci2876 6 жыл бұрын
When you changed out the 1" follower to the 1/2" diameter, the cutter left a nice small round fillet in the corner. I was thinking if you did not clean tjat out, and cut the tails to fit, that wood look nice, instead of the traditional square edge dovetail. We wood all love to see a video if you'd be willing to try just one joint to see what it looks like :)
@michaelflynn6178
@michaelflynn6178 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthias
@alexpettigrew8971
@alexpettigrew8971 9 жыл бұрын
Nice cheat! Hand cutting dovetails not my thing either. Thanks for sharing.
@CosmasBauer
@CosmasBauer 9 жыл бұрын
Lovely! The hand tool guys will hate you :)
@ironpirate8
@ironpirate8 9 жыл бұрын
Cosmas B No... no hate.. [Weeps quietly into leather apron]
@LabGecko
@LabGecko 9 жыл бұрын
Cosmas B Not at all. Hand tools aren't for everyone. I don't have a leather apron (yet), so I can't weep.
@jeffspaulding9834
@jeffspaulding9834 9 жыл бұрын
Cosmas B No hate from me. Just because I don't have the inclination (or, to be honest, the skills and knowledge) doesn't mean I can't appreciate good work when I see it.
@jonagnew4674
@jonagnew4674 5 жыл бұрын
Nah. Most of us could hand cut dovetails in way less time that it would take to fiddle with all these jigs and wedges and things.
@grandmasteryoda5485
@grandmasteryoda5485 3 жыл бұрын
True
@hiquality_distraction4084
@hiquality_distraction4084 9 жыл бұрын
looks good to me. thanks for slowing down the pinky pinching lol
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