Chechnya's Bizzare Ban on Musical Tempo

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Adam Neely

Adam Neely

Ай бұрын

Chechnya's Cultural Minister just banned all music outside of 80-116BPM...why?
well....
This is probably just a clever way to make sure that Lezginka is legal (which is crazy fast, but whose half time tempo fits within this window) but foreign music like House and Techno does not.
Thanks to Dr. VanHandel for joining me! Follow her on twXtter...
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Sources:
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Chechan Music Playlist
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(⌐■_■)
Peace,
Adam

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@mike_ere
@mike_ere Ай бұрын
Anything can be 80-116bpm if you count it like a nerd:)
@dkevans
@dkevans Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u Ай бұрын
Actually this song has a beat structure of heptadectuplets so even though it sounds to the philistine like it's at 7 bpm, it is actually a clean and very legal 119. Maybe we should make it a little slower, just to be on the safe side?
@Salsmachev
@Salsmachev Ай бұрын
Are those numbers given in decimal or vigesimal?
@7EEVEE
@7EEVEE Ай бұрын
@@Salsmachev ew dude
@PhonkEcho
@PhonkEcho Ай бұрын
At least we get to listen to SpacePhonk: LxST Cxntxry, Kedela
@Arcenus237J
@Arcenus237J Ай бұрын
As others have said, it is not a music ban, it's an excuse for a culture ban. Chechen authorities will not count the beats and then prohibit something, they'll just take down any concert or festivity they don't like alleging this law and be done with it.
@dyawr
@dyawr Ай бұрын
Exactly
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 Ай бұрын
Like Palestine supporters in Germany. They just call someone an antisemite or Hamas supporter, then arrest them.
@Conserpov
@Conserpov Ай бұрын
Except this is... FAKE. Wanna buy a bridge?
@dyawr
@dyawr Ай бұрын
@@Conserpov It's def not fake by the looks of it. How do you know?
@dyawr
@dyawr Ай бұрын
@@thewhitefalcon8539 That's *complete* bs. And most Palestine supporters *are* Hms supporters, anyway. Lol
@gytux0258
@gytux0258 Ай бұрын
Laws like this are just a technicality. On the books to give them the ability to ban something whenever. Selectively enforced and never meant to actually be followed to the letter.
@gayusschwulius8490
@gayusschwulius8490 Ай бұрын
Yep, this.
@ickaruus4909
@ickaruus4909 Ай бұрын
Yes, but still bizarre and interesting, also depressing
@MrFreeGman
@MrFreeGman Ай бұрын
Correct, it's very similar to hate speech laws, except a little more specific.
@HansWurst1569
@HansWurst1569 Ай бұрын
@@MrFreeGman Exactly. Where freedom of speech was a given right, its now turning into ‘swearing at someone as a white straight male is jail time’
@simplyzach
@simplyzach Ай бұрын
The good ol' low posted speed limit.
@Soshikix
@Soshikix Ай бұрын
RIP Chechnyan technical death metal scene.
@bamramon2704
@bamramon2704 Ай бұрын
chechen lezginkagrind is baned now this is so sad
@oinochoe
@oinochoe Ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s sad to see Chechen metal scene getting destroyed. It was so promising
@perlundgren7797
@perlundgren7797 Ай бұрын
Chechnical death metal.
@warmetalpacifist
@warmetalpacifist Ай бұрын
Just play 32s and 64s. Issue solved
@n00dl3
@n00dl3 Ай бұрын
Nothing but breakdowns from now on
@samuelmartin8650
@samuelmartin8650 Ай бұрын
Your honor, my song is not in 79 bpm, it's actually a 79/80 polymeter
@Foxxey
@Foxxey Ай бұрын
Genius
@AbeldeBetancourt
@AbeldeBetancourt Ай бұрын
Still forbidden. Too decadent.
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom Ай бұрын
disagreeing with a judge in Chechnya, not advised
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 28 күн бұрын
“Polymeter is not allowed, you must state the actual beats per minute without using those tricks.”
@CossackGene
@CossackGene Ай бұрын
As a huge fan of lezginka: this video ROCKS. I've never heard someone discuss its technicalities in English before! Should note that it's not just Chechen dance - it's performed in slightly different variations all around the Caucasus and by the Caucasian diaspora worldwide. Your first example video is from Kabardino-Balkaria, and while I can't find the original version of the second, it's got to be in front of Gostinny Dvor in St. Petersburg. Looks just like it. Also, in case anyone was wondering, there will be no one in the Chechen government measuring the beat of every song. The law will be used reactively against individuals the state/community dislike already. Just like every repressive law in Russia.
@emilyrln
@emilyrln Ай бұрын
Yup. It's an excuse to harass and repress the people they don't like.
@umarelimbaev02
@umarelimbaev02 Ай бұрын
Being from Chechnya myself, I'm actually really happy that you, Adam (fun fact: my father's name is Adam too), really liked ''Lezginka'' and even made some kind of analysis on it, even if that happened because of a weird reason to be honest, but anyways, thank you!
@Bigkilla99
@Bigkilla99 Ай бұрын
Do you still live in Chechnya? If so, have you seen this law take effect yet? Do people even follow the law?
@umarelimbaev02
@umarelimbaev02 Ай бұрын
@@Bigkilla99 No, I live in Saint Petersburg, but almost every year I go to Chechnya to meet my relatives. The only thing I can say is that I don't know anything about it's effect, but I can ask people who live there, so stay tuned :) Regarding the latter question it depends on how the law is... controlled I guess? I think people will still listen to whatever music they want, but more secretly, now nobody will throw a big party knowing that there's a risk of being punished.
@Bigkilla99
@Bigkilla99 Ай бұрын
@@umarelimbaev02 thanks for the info ✌️
@umarelimbaev02
@umarelimbaev02 Ай бұрын
@@Bigkilla99 you are welcome!
@YakutY
@YakutY Ай бұрын
@@umarelimbaev02 Is it even legal to have raves or techno dances there? Like, what even motivated this law to be passed?
@vantage11
@vantage11 Ай бұрын
FITNESS GRAND PACER TEST OFFICALLY BANNED (75 BPM)
@FireUIVA
@FireUIVA Ай бұрын
*The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test
@caleblarsen5490
@caleblarsen5490 Ай бұрын
FINALLY!
@Crazimo
@Crazimo Ай бұрын
lil bro said fitness grand 🤣
@Riplee
@Riplee Ай бұрын
"Up..." Police: DOWN! DOWN!
@lukasloganmusic
@lukasloganmusic Ай бұрын
How will we recover
@DuncanHarbison
@DuncanHarbison Ай бұрын
I'm going to write a piece that alternates between 80 and 116 every couple of bars. Don't dare perform it slightly wrong.
@DuncanHarbison
@DuncanHarbison Ай бұрын
And in case anyone tries to get smug about fancy counting the lyrics go "all of these beats are quar-ter notes"
@penwozhere
@penwozhere Ай бұрын
@@DuncanHarbisonBAHAHAH
@noworldrecords
@noworldrecords Ай бұрын
Grindcore! :)
@mykal4779
@mykal4779 Ай бұрын
damn you preempted my comment about triplets good play
@jerrylev59
@jerrylev59 Ай бұрын
Any member of the rhythm section who pushes or drags the tempo may be subject to severe fines and possible imprisonment.
@DaudAlzayer
@DaudAlzayer Ай бұрын
"If you want the arts, fund them" is a simple message they aren't ready to hear
@emilyrln
@emilyrln Ай бұрын
None of these rules lawyers wants the arts; they want to suppress any expression they don't like 💀
@jeltje50
@jeltje50 Ай бұрын
​@@emilyrlnit's chechnia after all.
@VieneLea
@VieneLea Ай бұрын
Oh, they do hire propaganda musicians. It's russia.
@Hurricayne92
@Hurricayne92 Ай бұрын
I mean i dont think any government is ready to hear this
@ForageGardener
@ForageGardener Ай бұрын
​@@emilyrlnwhat the saying means is "if you want to control the arts. Fund them"
@jkRatbird
@jkRatbird Ай бұрын
So to summarise: 40-58 is OK! 58-80 is FORBIDDEN! 80-116 is OK! 116-160 is FORBIDDEN! 160 - 232 is OK!
@tiltil9442
@tiltil9442 Ай бұрын
Junglist massive!
@michaelleue7594
@michaelleue7594 Ай бұрын
120-174 should also be fine with triplets, so there's really only a range between 116-120 that's a problem.
@theoldnamesystemworkedbetter
@theoldnamesystemworkedbetter Ай бұрын
freedom dive is ok (222.22 bpm)
@NeovanGoth
@NeovanGoth Ай бұрын
160 - 232 ok? Sounds like a proper Darkpsy party. 😎
@caelan5301
@caelan5301 Ай бұрын
It's like learning how IP address ranges are reserved in my networking class. Seems so arbitrary.
@Doctor-Shoebill
@Doctor-Shoebill Ай бұрын
This is Chechnya's Footloose
@melodywave3
@melodywave3 Ай бұрын
They already enacted a policy to imprison anyone who could be seen as gay. It's a little late for footloose
@aemythjensen
@aemythjensen Ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking 😄😄
@PvtFlowers
@PvtFlowers Ай бұрын
i think that was when they killed all the gays.
@Superjet113
@Superjet113 Ай бұрын
😂
@Vlad_the_Impaler
@Vlad_the_Impaler Ай бұрын
It is Chechen mullahs being "loose".
@normalizedaudio2481
@normalizedaudio2481 Ай бұрын
Drummer's perfect pitch is where they know the exact BPM right away.
@dkevans
@dkevans Ай бұрын
Also flips between 6 8 and 5 8.
@dananskidolf
@dananskidolf Ай бұрын
"Come on guys, your tuning is totally flat. We've got to stay between E(-4) and B(-4) or we'll get arrested."
@oyora
@oyora Ай бұрын
@@dananskidolf All guitars without squiggly frets shall be confiscated and burnt.
@Mr.Goldbar
@Mr.Goldbar Ай бұрын
I'd call that some sort of perfect time. My dad was a DJ before I was born and plays drums as a hobby and he has that ability
@el_kobzone_8262
@el_kobzone_8262 Ай бұрын
Интересно, что там у Муцураева по bpm. По ощущениям, всё чётко…
@onlychance7157
@onlychance7157 Ай бұрын
UK Government: _Bans "repetitive beats."_ UK Ravers: _Makes Breakbeat and Jungle._
@Hajo87-tz7hz
@Hajo87-tz7hz Ай бұрын
Woohoo 🥳👍✨
@bordershader
@bordershader Ай бұрын
Yup. it was/is such a stupid law!
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Ай бұрын
Especially since the beats in most songs are repetitive. That's their purpose.
@Stephen_Black
@Stephen_Black 26 күн бұрын
Tbf, breakbeat and jungle are just as repetitive as house and trance, unless you’re talking about stuff like Aphex Twin, or breakcore.
@onlychance7157
@onlychance7157 23 күн бұрын
@@Stephen_Black I'm a drummer, so I don't disagree. Most breakbeat stuff isn't as crazy as people like to think and that includes a lot of what people nowadays call "breakcore." I see too many "breakcore" mixes that are basically just atmospheric jungle. If you know how to find "the one," counting breakbeats is easy. It's rarely ever out of a 4/4 time signature.
@exhumus
@exhumus Ай бұрын
Challenge to create a mid-pace blackened death metal band based around Chechnyan cultural taboos accepted.
@IPODsify
@IPODsify Ай бұрын
Most music bans are really just culture bans but trying to seem non racist. When there were jazz bands they just made different genres with similar themes
@Aspencio
@Aspencio Ай бұрын
my man you need help
@cemreomerayna463
@cemreomerayna463 Ай бұрын
@@Aspencio No, he is spot on. Watch it from 5:37 and see their reasoning the Chechen minister gives for the ban.
@howmanybeansmakefive
@howmanybeansmakefive Ай бұрын
For sure. Though as a Brit PoC that went to a few raves in the 90s lol, Thatcher was specifically going after the field raves via electronic music, mainly because she just hated ‘degenerate’ ravers, drug takers, any kind of non-‘classical’ culture, disorderlyness/passion, ‘nuisance'… but tbh most of the field ravers were white and middle class. I also hear the kids nowadays actually learn about that law in secondary school music class. People should also watch the doc by Jeremy Deller - Everybody in the Place, on KZfaq. It’s an awesome social history of rave scene/acid house/uk politics in the 80s, set in a high school politics class of today. (+ the chechen mullahs just hate all music and fun)
@Aspencio
@Aspencio Ай бұрын
@@cemreomerayna463 im talking about the jazz thing because thats just wrong on every level
@terminaldeity
@terminaldeity Ай бұрын
In the case of Chechnya, it seems like the ban is in an effort to prioritize more traditional Chechnyan music and culture.
@carrie_is_gay
@carrie_is_gay Ай бұрын
>opens ableton live >bpm defaults to 120 >swat team immediately breaks down my door
@vaenii5056
@vaenii5056 Ай бұрын
It's okay as long as you don't hit play
@08tanooki
@08tanooki Ай бұрын
@@vaenii5056 imagine getting arrested for playing silence at 120 bpm
@jamma_peach
@jamma_peach Ай бұрын
Hahahaha
@Frank-yb2hw
@Frank-yb2hw Ай бұрын
Your comment made me laugh
@onionheadguy7094
@onionheadguy7094 Ай бұрын
lol dang beat me to it you rascal!
@johnopalko5223
@johnopalko5223 Ай бұрын
Good, they can still perform CPR in Chechnya. "Stayin' Alive" is 104 bpm.
@pmnt_
@pmnt_ Ай бұрын
my favourite CPR song is Another One Bites the Dust (also legal at 112bpm).
@aiaioioi
@aiaioioi Ай бұрын
i thought of CPR by cupcakke 😭 (103 bpm, so.. legal if you don't know the lyrics)
@cherrycolareal
@cherrycolareal 23 күн бұрын
​@@aiaioioi what the hell...
@echosaxea
@echosaxea Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! One of my students just stopped singing and playing instruments in my music lessons, right after this law has been established, his family comes from Chechnya so probably this would be the reason. I am so sad!
@robindickinsonmusic
@robindickinsonmusic Ай бұрын
Thank you now I'm in love with LEZGINKA it's so freakin cool
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 Ай бұрын
And now it's both cool and illegal.
@jaylow759
@jaylow759 27 күн бұрын
Which makes it even cooler.
@ImaginaryMdA
@ImaginaryMdA Ай бұрын
The Chechen cultural ministry won't measure bpm, they'll just ban "degenerate" music (or whatever the Chechen alternative of degenerate is).
@KYSMO
@KYSMO Ай бұрын
Yup, leave it to fat, old Chechens to decide what is degenerate and what isn't.
@tomsucksatpiano
@tomsucksatpiano Ай бұрын
yeah exactly
@malegria9641
@malegria9641 Ай бұрын
It’s rebel illi music, like Alimsultan Imam and Mucurai Temur.
@Entrophius
@Entrophius Ай бұрын
Legitimate reasons might be: - offending feelings of Islam fundamentalists - "promoting LGBT" - offending the state
@ericbuzzard2041
@ericbuzzard2041 Ай бұрын
​@@Entrophiusthat may be but they're still not "legitimate" reasons.
@dkevans
@dkevans Ай бұрын
Adam, if I ever organise a rave, you're invited as my musicologist. 🎉
@ordinarryalien
@ordinarryalien Ай бұрын
Didn't get it until 7:21. :)
@Jondis4306
@Jondis4306 Ай бұрын
I heard about this story elsewhere, but nobody has done such a deep dive as this. I've been enjoying every video of yours for years now and it has brought my own musicianship to new heights. THANK YOU Adam Neely for just being so damn Rad.
@zim_the_vixen
@zim_the_vixen Ай бұрын
"The idea of regulating music [...] for the good of the people feels downright..." Fascist. "Platonic" Oh.
@Hajo87-tz7hz
@Hajo87-tz7hz Ай бұрын
Like minded 😂👍
@zim_the_vixen
@zim_the_vixen Ай бұрын
@@Hajo87-tz7hz Hella! ♥
@LON009
@LON009 Ай бұрын
One district mayor from my city banned all concerts. Luckily, they didn't specify what a concert is, so bands are now doing "recitals" and "public rehearsals".
@Seamannon
@Seamannon Ай бұрын
That must look great on paper, that kind of rebranding definitely sounds like a levelup, such a sophisticated town!🧐 Now I wonder where you're from.
@LON009
@LON009 Ай бұрын
@@Seamannon Peru. The district I mentioned is called Barranco, in Lima city. It is a bizarre ban, because that district is known for its diverse music scene.
@Seamannon
@Seamannon Ай бұрын
@@LON009 Thanks for your reply, I like to learn about strange things around the world. I'd probably never come across this information if it wasn't for you 😅 This seems like an absurd situation indeed. How did it come to be? Do you have any clue? Was it for some noise complaints from the inhabitants or something?
@LON009
@LON009 Ай бұрын
@@Seamannon It's all because of the paranoid far-right party that won the last city elections. Barranco is an artsy district, so, by banning concerts, they believe they are stopping "terrorists" from doing "secret rallies" or something.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Ай бұрын
That's very disconcerting.
@ileutur6863
@ileutur6863 Ай бұрын
As someone who comes from a culture that has these similar, weirdly conservative and traditionalist tendencies to just ban stuff left and right, I love watching people like this embarrass themselves on a global level. I have to live life cut off from western culture, at least I get to point and laugh on the internet.
@biggusdickus1689
@biggusdickus1689 Ай бұрын
As someone who has no context to what you're referring to, what did you find so funny about this?
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Ай бұрын
Trump will ban music entirely if the evangelicals push him.
@quan-uo5ws
@quan-uo5ws Ай бұрын
@@stoneneils Americans arguing which president is worse (they are both the worst presidents in the history of the U.S.)
@spuriousgeorge7233
@spuriousgeorge7233 Ай бұрын
​@@stoneneilsThere are a lot of things you can say about trump and the evangelicals, but I don't think banning all music is on their agenda
@bazookaman1353
@bazookaman1353 Ай бұрын
​@@stoneneilsI think you might just be schizophrenic.
@roccosporgenti1747
@roccosporgenti1747 Ай бұрын
I use my old school windup metronome with the slider. I haven’t moved it in years but I can practice ANY tempo off it. Its all in how you feel it.
@Fokadas
@Fokadas Ай бұрын
They will soon regulate what speed you breathe.
@g3cd
@g3cd Ай бұрын
German Nazis put up signs "Swing Dancing prohibited". But one of their biggest movie stars Hans Albers did a song "Beim ersten Mal da tut's noch weh" (from the movie "Große Freiheit Nr. 7", filmed in 1943) that is pure big band swing, especially the part with the trumpet. So dictatorships seem to have a tradition of not doing what they preach, weird 😂
@unknown-Bzop1
@unknown-Bzop1 Ай бұрын
Simple. Many monarchy has banned specific color or ornament for regular people so that only royals or high people could own the feature. I guess they just wanted to privatize their own signature musical flavor?
@ben2949
@ben2949 Ай бұрын
@@unknown-Bzop1not really. The Nazis banned swing music because it was American and untraditional ( therefore they viewed it as degenerate)
@ashwinrawat9622
@ashwinrawat9622 Ай бұрын
Interesting, where can I find more information regarding this, preferably unbiased, and free from allied propaganda (which is hard to find)
@micindir4213
@micindir4213 Ай бұрын
​@@unknown-Bzop1exactly! Please should multiply and pay taxes, nothing more
@unknown-Bzop1
@unknown-Bzop1 Ай бұрын
OK for the record if this sounds nazism to you I am just so sorry... I was just supposed to point out that they have double standards but apparently I just mislead yall... Sorry again...
@digitaldeathsquid3448
@digitaldeathsquid3448 Ай бұрын
"Bleed" by Meshuggah is 115bpm It's only just legal in Chechnya. I propose we play it wherever we go in Chechnya
@nogland8916
@nogland8916 Ай бұрын
Guerilla Radio is 104 bpm... We can go places with this
@mmoncur
@mmoncur Ай бұрын
Note to Chechens: Most heavy metal music is in the 80-120 BPM range. Bang your head!
@traildoggy
@traildoggy Ай бұрын
But your honor, she told me she was dancing at 90 bpm. I didn't know, I mean, she looked fast enough.
@AFN2750
@AFN2750 Ай бұрын
There was a joke, and I’m forgetting the specific wording, but basically in the UK, if you had four old men sitting around a gramophone playing German oom-pah music, it was technically a rave, and therefore illegal
@kaltziferYT
@kaltziferYT Ай бұрын
Are raves illegal in UK? Actually i don't know what is a rave (for UK people).
@yorkletronik
@yorkletronik Ай бұрын
@@kaltziferYT "any gathering of 20 or more people where: 63(1)(b) "music" includes sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats." It's not a quaint old law to chuckle at either, it is still in force to this day.
@kaltziferYT
@kaltziferYT Ай бұрын
@@yorkletronik thnx
@NoLongerBreathedIn
@NoLongerBreathedIn Ай бұрын
That's from one of the Technical Difficulties reverse trivia podcast episodes (can't remember which one).
@1leon000
@1leon000 Ай бұрын
@@yorkletronik So it'd actually be 21 old germans, not 4.
@grasped2
@grasped2 Ай бұрын
Kadyrov and his cronies simply don't know what else to do so they start doing weird things.
@E0O2X314FT
@E0O2X314FT Ай бұрын
Like every politician
@grasped2
@grasped2 Ай бұрын
@@E0O2X314FT true but the ones in autoritharian countries get bored quicker.
@AlekseiSomkov
@AlekseiSomkov Ай бұрын
​@@E0O2X314FTnon-authoritarian politicians are usually replaced before they get bored
@richardhunter9779
@richardhunter9779 Ай бұрын
@@areksrocks3375 I mean technically we are all enslaved by the corrupt businessmen that choose and fund which politicians you can vote for.
@user-qi1cs3zg3n
@user-qi1cs3zg3n Ай бұрын
@@areksrocks3375 in Chechnya, people are kidnapped and tortured for criticizing Kadyrov. Often they simply disappear forever. The same thing happens with LGBT people. Honor killings are encouraged and not punished by law. By the way, slavery exists there too. In the literal sense of the word. There are many stories of people who were kidnapped and used as slaves for years. Just like in your non-authoritarian country, where are you enslaved? Practically the same thing, right?
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787 Ай бұрын
I think about this constantly when listening to black metal. The tremolo picking gets so fast that it starts to feel like more of a drone when I listen to it. And in fact, when my (Dominican) spouse and I first got together we discovered that bachata guitar work has a similar sort of vibe.
@siangibby5771
@siangibby5771 Ай бұрын
This is an awesome video. Adam, you are smart and terrific.
@JohnDegen_aka_Jeehannes
@JohnDegen_aka_Jeehannes Ай бұрын
Oh my God, if only Frank Zappa were alive today.... He would have a field day
@user-vt3ro8os3f
@user-vt3ro8os3f Ай бұрын
My first thoughts 😂
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts Ай бұрын
We used to do a night on the second Saturday of every month and at the end of the night to clear the dancefloor we would always play ' Why does it hurt when I pee ' by Zappa.
@ericstearns170
@ericstearns170 Ай бұрын
Somewhere, right now, In an alternate universe, Frank is composing "The (mostly) Blank Page". 🤣
@n8w8rem22
@n8w8rem22 Ай бұрын
Indeed 👍🏼
@christianfriisjensen2055
@christianfriisjensen2055 Ай бұрын
The poor guy would lose his fucking mind.
@wolfmerrik
@wolfmerrik Ай бұрын
God damn it's good to hear your voice. Well paced video too, not too fast, not too slow. ❤️
@harmannymusiceducation
@harmannymusiceducation Ай бұрын
The sweet spot of videos.
@greatestytcommentator
@greatestytcommentator Ай бұрын
The greatest comment today....
@Circ00mspice
@Circ00mspice Ай бұрын
You could say he talks at 80bpm
@DoctorJoelThomas
@DoctorJoelThomas Ай бұрын
Nice to see Dr. VanHandel on here! She was teaching at MSU when I was finishing my Doctorate there.
@Katiculous
@Katiculous Ай бұрын
Ether is a solid choice for background music lol. Love your videos (and your music)! Keep up the great work.
@TheJacquelinia
@TheJacquelinia Ай бұрын
i lived in chechnya for 5 years and it was surreal. just a local government getting progressively more ridiculous (but also in a scary way?) and just so contradictory in school we were told that women singing is immoral. then someone pointed out chechen folk singing, they said it was ok. one girl asked why metal is "bad", they had no answer lol. lezginka and chechen music is insanely popular there, there is no reason for this law other than to promote "morals and tradition". its really all performative, the local government loves doing a show of upholding chechen traditions but doesnt really enforce it, its just for local TV (and a way for ministers to get approval from kadyrov)
@testacals
@testacals Ай бұрын
Maybe some contradiction are probably there because, maybe chechnyan culture is older than islam
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios Ай бұрын
A better way to spread the local music is to promote it. When you ban something, it just becomes more enticing to taste the forbidden.
@Nico_M.
@Nico_M. Ай бұрын
"sounds (...) characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats." So, basically all music.
@WillHirschUK
@WillHirschUK Ай бұрын
Someone has got to have tried some sort of fractal meter where no two beat spacings repeat, right?
@CainXVII
@CainXVII Ай бұрын
​@@WillHirschUKI don't know if you would hear that as music...
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 Ай бұрын
@@CainXVIIsearch fractal music on KZfaq I’ve seen a couple experimental videos and they seem pretty cool actually
@jonstewart464
@jonstewart464 Ай бұрын
Great video, love your outlook on music
@alexkozliayev9902
@alexkozliayev9902 Ай бұрын
10:05 it's bold of you to assume that they are care about the fairness of their judgement
@goonyougoodthing
@goonyougoodthing Ай бұрын
The super fast 6/8 thing is also a big part of Irish traditional music
@eggsbox
@eggsbox Ай бұрын
fr sometimes i redownload Lords of the Dance just to feel something
@umarelimbaev02
@umarelimbaev02 Ай бұрын
My cousin found out that he has 9 percent of Irish blood after he sent his analysis to some Texas university and we are Chechens by the way P.S. - sorry for my english :)
@Arycke
@Arycke Ай бұрын
It is. He has covered it before unsurprisingly lol.
@goonyougoodthing
@goonyougoodthing Ай бұрын
@@Arycke do you know which video ?
@Arycke
@Arycke Ай бұрын
@@goonyougoodthing I could have sworn I saw him mention it in a Q+A, too many to look back in :/ however, I may, and probably did, recall incorrectly think of his video "How to play in 9/8"
@PaulSpades
@PaulSpades Ай бұрын
7:59 That's why UK artists have the mad breakbeat cuts. 4 on the floor is illegal and puts everybody to sleep.
@MrOzzification
@MrOzzification Ай бұрын
"4 on the floor? More like snore on the floor" - UK electronic artists probably
@PaulSpades
@PaulSpades Ай бұрын
@@MrOzzification Aye!
@onkelpappkov2666
@onkelpappkov2666 28 күн бұрын
​@@MrOzzification"More like four to the BORE, right?" "We got it, mate."
@pyxxel
@pyxxel 27 күн бұрын
Really interesting video, thanks for the great presentation!
@jmd01
@jmd01 Ай бұрын
Terrific! What a fun and informative video! 🙂
@GojiMet86
@GojiMet86 Ай бұрын
As always with these bans, the common folk will suffer, and the (rich) people in charge of the ban will ensure their children can travel abroad to listen to this highly dangerous foreign contaminated music.
@vladalexeev8529
@vladalexeev8529 Ай бұрын
Not the Chechens. It's not that kind of nation
@testacals
@testacals Ай бұрын
@@vladalexeev8529 chechnya isn't a nation. Pretty much every ruling class is hypocritical in some way. Even the prophet was hypocritical.
@vladalexeev8529
@vladalexeev8529 Ай бұрын
@@testacals it's a country within a country. They are not regular region. It's a price for peace. But one thing is for sure, they don't send children to Switzerland or UK. They are just different kind of persons.
@testacals
@testacals Ай бұрын
@@vladalexeev8529 Country is a vague definition itself but most people and most definitions of country agree that autonomous region within a country isn't a country. Otherwise countries like USA has 100s of countries within it.
@alexkozliayev9902
@alexkozliayev9902 Ай бұрын
@@testacals "Otherwise countries like USA has 100s of countries within it." Well, yeah. That's why they are called united STATES and each can have separate laws.
@ForgottenKnight1
@ForgottenKnight1 Ай бұрын
I bet that Chechnya wants to be an utopia for all its citizens and this was their last problem on the list. Now they are fucking dandy perfect.
@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318
@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318 Ай бұрын
Yup, unfortunately, rather than being a utopia, Sharia law is about as backwards and dystopian as it gets
@InsArtTure
@InsArtTure Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@MaxChaplin
@MaxChaplin Ай бұрын
UK government: Repetitive beats forbidden. Autechre: OK. (invents Drill 'n' Bass)
@tetraphobie
@tetraphobie Ай бұрын
Love the video. Love how you've turned a silly oppressive law into something educational and fun. (Not that it matters but some of my family comes from Chechnya.)
@MSDOS128
@MSDOS128 Ай бұрын
They made me learn this dance when I was a kid. ROFLed from Malmsteen's playing matching lezginka so well. Would love to see people dance Black Star this way...
@whoisdin
@whoisdin Ай бұрын
eyyy nice shoutout to chicago juke/footwork!!! I instantly thought of it when you started showing the lezginka!
@whoisdin
@whoisdin Ай бұрын
AND an autechre shoutout?? damn dude.
@ericstearns170
@ericstearns170 Ай бұрын
To be fair, footwork is just a modern interpretation of 80s poppin' and lockin' from the Breakdance era.
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 Ай бұрын
I was looking for a comment like this! Didnt expect to see footworking be mentioned lol.
@chuanp2327
@chuanp2327 Ай бұрын
@@ericstearns170 ghetto house music and juke existed tho and that's the true root of footwork
@TheZauer
@TheZauer Ай бұрын
Ditto. Footwork deserves a lot more attention from musicologists if only because of the unique rhythms found in it.
@xAD21x
@xAD21x Ай бұрын
I'd love to see videos more frequently from You! 😎
@PaulSkeptic
@PaulSkeptic Ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis as always!
@seedmole
@seedmole Ай бұрын
"Different levels of pulse salience" - finally I have an academic af way to describe how the time shifts in the album Tago Mago by Can.
@jmcsquared18
@jmcsquared18 Ай бұрын
It's insanely disturbing that governments think it's acceptable to ban music, not just by genre, but even going as far as regulating its speed. Wtf is wrong with our species.
@martifingers
@martifingers Ай бұрын
I know it was a rhetorical question but the deep question about how we form identity and its role in social cohesion and conflict is a deeply serious one. FWIW I think some of the answers lie in Terror Management Theory. It's a complex theory but it does make sense of why cultural constructs are universal and persistent and why threats (real or perceived) create great (and even violent) conflict.
@gabinodelpasado
@gabinodelpasado Ай бұрын
capo tus videos siguen siendo geniales
@Rollthered
@Rollthered Ай бұрын
How are they going to ban ambient music? Its literally no bpm. lmao.
@ionescuflorin7307
@ionescuflorin7307 Ай бұрын
Bold to assume they've heard of ambient music or consider it music in the first place
@ulfr-gunnarsson
@ulfr-gunnarsson Ай бұрын
9:21 The problem is, Chechnya couldn't really promote education or fund musicians bc (1) it's a fairly politically unstable region; (2) Chechnya basically exists on direct federal subsidies from Moscow which primarily (due to insane corruption) goes to Kadyrov and his circle; and (3) it's a Muslim-majority (Sufist Sunni) region.
@31pas0
@31pas0 Ай бұрын
Brother, it's not that they couldn't; they simply don't need that. This ban is just another demonstration of the power they have over their own people.
@kevinhyde9671
@kevinhyde9671 Ай бұрын
HE’S BACK BABY
@Fabermorrow
@Fabermorrow Ай бұрын
Cool to see you talking about footwork! Big up chi town !
@champnessjack1154
@champnessjack1154 Ай бұрын
Fascinating, thank you
@drewmalesky9869
@drewmalesky9869 Ай бұрын
Authoritarians be like ...
@alfsmith4936
@alfsmith4936 Ай бұрын
Producers be like "Dubstep's still legal? Let's have some fun."
@fletchermunson
@fletchermunson Ай бұрын
Chechnya is not about authoritarianism, it is about what will happen to your country if you are occupied by the Russians. After the Russians killed many thousands of Chechens in two bloody wars, all the rulers of Chechnya are directly installed by Moscow.
@TitaniumTurbine
@TitaniumTurbine Ай бұрын
I swear we’re not too far from this kind of ban in Florida. Holy shit things are getting bad law-wise, keep the sane folks here in your thoughts.
@ErreGamer
@ErreGamer Ай бұрын
Not me thinking on making music from now on in 117 BPM 🙂
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts Ай бұрын
It's a not bad BPM for melodic techno
@mikeciul8599
@mikeciul8599 Ай бұрын
I've never heard of footwork but it reminds me of a group I used to hear a lot in Philly - Dollarboyz. I found a video of them from 2012 and the track was about 166 bpm, so send those boys to Chechnya! (if they want to go) The kick drum typically plays two quarter notes followed by a pseudo-triplet of two dotted eighths and one eighth note. There are sometimes handclaps on 1 and 3, so you could easily take the handclaps as a pulse at 83 bpm.
@elcbk460
@elcbk460 Ай бұрын
THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO GO VIRAL! What tempo is 'too fast', or 'too slow', is always a hot topic for my fiddler friends & I - but it's hard to realize that idiotic politicians are still making these kinds of disgusting decisions for people on this planet. Always appreciate what you offer up, Adam! 🤗
@SignalDitch
@SignalDitch Ай бұрын
Looking forward to everyone dropping their Chechen remixes
@_supersolar
@_supersolar Ай бұрын
RETURN OF THE KING
@en0n126
@en0n126 Ай бұрын
I hope you're talkin about King Charles, footwork legend. :D About the last thing I expected to see in a Adam Neely video.
@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 Ай бұрын
Wait a minute, is HOUSE of the King safe? I hope so.😅
@MrAkifusion
@MrAkifusion Ай бұрын
EXCELLENT, thanks !!! ❤
@Jesse-ey5xd
@Jesse-ey5xd Ай бұрын
Fabulous topic ✌️
@MultiRamaan
@MultiRamaan Ай бұрын
Кто бы мог подумать, что Адама Нили вернут в игру новости из Чечни
@Pharisaios
@Pharisaios Ай бұрын
Чечня нынче другим Адамом на весь мир славна(
@blango-san
@blango-san Ай бұрын
@@Pharisaios не преувеличивай, кому он нахрен кроме пост-совка сдался
@valyanarezka
@valyanarezka Ай бұрын
ещё и такие позорные :(
@vsolyomi
@vsolyomi Ай бұрын
I didn't know why came to this channel until you showed me Lezginka over Malmsteen. Thank you.
@zoombrain4768
@zoombrain4768 Ай бұрын
We have lived up to the moment when Adam tries to play lezginka on the bass guitar.They will give a medal for this, but to another Adam
@barefootarts737
@barefootarts737 Ай бұрын
The great thing about the accordion is that you can really shred fast with perfect pitch for each note. It provided speed that was not previously possible in the regions music.
@Rumbleman99
@Rumbleman99 Ай бұрын
8:10 Yes, gatherings around rave music are still banned in the UK. Don't worry, its not stopping anyone
@kristianwichmann9996
@kristianwichmann9996 Ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9upnrmWv57WZoU.html&ab_channel=TheProdigy-Topic
@KYSMO
@KYSMO Ай бұрын
That is not at all what is going on. Why are you lying? The only thing illegal is them being too loud and inconsiderate of people who don't wanna rave. A former office block in central London has been the subject of a closure order after endless illegal raves caused havoc for nearby residents with gatherings lasting over 14 hours, and music so loud it caused walls to shake.
@jiggyprawn
@jiggyprawn Ай бұрын
​@KYSMO they're not lying. "Powers to remove persons attending or preparing for a rave": www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/63 Amounts to them being banned.
@kayosgarden
@kayosgarden Ай бұрын
​@@KYSMOshaking walls, 14 hours, empty commercial spaces... afaik, that's your standard, garden-variety rave. if that's illegal, raving is illegal.
@zarrg5611
@zarrg5611 Ай бұрын
​@@kayosgarden So people's quality of life is less important then a bunch of arseholes whose idea of a good time is spending all night drugged up in a room with damaging volumes of music, good to know. Sorry for being an evil fascist by valuing sleep a silence.
@rjbse
@rjbse Ай бұрын
Never thought I'd see a crossover of Chechnya's politics and music theory
@fletchermunson
@fletchermunson Ай бұрын
Where do you see Chechen politics? Has Chechnya become independent? No, Chechnya is a part of Russia where Russians have been killing Chechens for 30 years, just as they have been killing Ukrainians for the last 10 years.
@jonnyblamey
@jonnyblamey Ай бұрын
Fantastic scholarly investigation. I particularly enjoyed the surprising Plato twist. And the solution: fund education and the arts… yes!
@ralfs.6479
@ralfs.6479 Ай бұрын
What is the most effective method of promoting a certain type of music in the medium term? Officially ban the next generation of young people from listening to it.
@craigmsmithmd
@craigmsmithmd Ай бұрын
Adam, this is a wonderful video. Will watch whatever videos you make. I always learn so much. Thanks!
@AABB-bm9kk
@AABB-bm9kk Ай бұрын
VanHandel was actually a little known and shortly-lived incarnation of Van Halen when they recorded “Too Hard to Handel” with Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes on lead vocals
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
Great video (apart from you saying both saying Chechnian rather than Chechen lol)
@Addrum
@Addrum Ай бұрын
omg you played that Daddy Yanky intro and my skin started to crawl inmediately. I've been waiting for reggaeton to die since it became the absolute dominant music of all latin america. I remember saying it was just a fad, and here we are, decades later still hearing this music with every single one with the exact same beat pattern and the same sexist content.
@dogwalk3
@dogwalk3 Ай бұрын
fwiw, i like this more relaxed non rushed, non pressured output you're making. seems like you're enjoying yourself more.
@visionop8
@visionop8 Ай бұрын
Chechnya must love Morbid Angel. A lot of their work lies directly within that BPM range. “This Means War” is a 103 BPM skull basher. They should check it out and play it loud.
@StandAgainstTheCartels
@StandAgainstTheCartels Ай бұрын
“I'm just saying that we should probably draw a line between 'I don't like it' and 'it should not exist.' There has to be a compromise inbetween those.” - Brad Williams, comedian in his latest special
@FirstLastFirstLast
@FirstLastFirstLast Ай бұрын
😳When she said people usually tap ~100bpm i paused the video and tried it myself. I instinctively started tapping in threes at an EXACT bpm of 240. When you explained chechen dance music as exactly this i had to rewind the whole video to see if it played before and somehow got into my subconscious or if i genuinely have chechen dance music ingrained in my soul. I might have to do a dna test now😅
@franklehouillier8865
@franklehouillier8865 Ай бұрын
"Platonic" was not the word that I would have come up.
@ontoverse
@ontoverse Ай бұрын
Plato was a _very_ opinionated man. You can say "Platonic" about just about anything, as long as it's strict, arbitrary and immaterial.
@coscorrodrift
@coscorrodrift Ай бұрын
lol i thought the same
@dank5018
@dank5018 Ай бұрын
Why not? The strict control of music for the sake of societal order appears in the Republic, among other places. I think its in book 3. A lot of people associate this idea with Platon as well, hence making it Platonic
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane Ай бұрын
@@dank5018 I think because that's just isn't the main thing people associate with the term "platonic." We're used to its use for platonic friendships (i.e. non-sexual) or platonic solids (i.e. quintessential) or something referencing "The Cave." Also, because they were probably thinking of another word that is more derogatory. "Platonic" has an air of academic legitimacy to it.
@its_uh_bella
@its_uh_bella Ай бұрын
​@ZipplyZane that comes from the idea of a "platonic ideal" plutonic relationship comes from the fact that Plato disagreed with Greek ideas of marriage. It is still perfectly normal to use Platonic to refer to ideas that are related or similar to Plato's
@Reginvalt
@Reginvalt 8 күн бұрын
I'm Russian and I love lezginka.Thank you for unbiased and educative video!
@michailalein
@michailalein Ай бұрын
I knew there was going to be a Adam Neely video about this, as soon as I read the news!
@Rowanexen
@Rowanexen Ай бұрын
This is absolutely ridiculous! At least you're able to report on it in your usual entertaining and incredibly informative way, but damn!
@roma540
@roma540 Ай бұрын
Slowed&Reverbed and Nightcore had entered the chat, I guess... Also, of course it would be Chechnya to go with that...
@Sacred_Silence
@Sacred_Silence 19 күн бұрын
1:20 As a drummer who listens to death metal, I started tapping comfortably at 170bpm lol
@Fl4ppers
@Fl4ppers Ай бұрын
Yngwie for the win. The guy is mental! 😎 BTW do a video on how to chose the right bass for different genres of music. How would you/did you choose yours.
@chrisrj9871
@chrisrj9871 Ай бұрын
Somebody somewhere said something along the lines of " 'Protecting the children' is often code for 'controlling adult lives' ", or something like that. If the children need to learn of their Chechen heritage and its vintage music, they should teach it in their schools or on some Chechen TV programs, or by their parents' choice. *_DON'T BAN 90% OF ALL OTHER MUSIC!!_* Arizona just enacted a law from 1864 (Before it was even a state!) that banned women from having an abortion! NOBODY CARES ABOUT ANTIQUATED RELIGIOUS LAWS FROM CENTURIES AGO!!! All of this is outrageous! WTF is going on!?
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 Ай бұрын
The right all across the world has lost their minds shadow boxing with imaginary phantoms.
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts Ай бұрын
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction:- Isaac Newton.
@gearandalthefirst7027
@gearandalthefirst7027 Ай бұрын
@@b00ts4ndc4ts Then why is everything always moving towards the extreme right?
@Mainyehc
@Mainyehc Ай бұрын
@@b00ts4ndc4tsyeah, nah. All reactions we’ve been seeing are definitely disproportionate. Do you think it’s normal to threaten to jail doctors just for helping women deal with doomed pregnancies? Gtfoh.
@lalberodellenocciole5279
@lalberodellenocciole5279 Ай бұрын
​@@b00ts4ndc4ts pee is stored in balls - Plato
@AndyChamberlainMusic
@AndyChamberlainMusic Ай бұрын
Lovely watch! Made me think, I feel like the structure of swing beats is almost optimized to resist the half-time feel perhaps the hats on 2 and 4 and lack of strong downbeat on most measures make it harder to believe in a half or quarter time feel when you hear a swing beat at 260bpm
@davidevans6514
@davidevans6514 Ай бұрын
Really interesting topic! Thanks for the video, Adam. In the case of UK legislation, the music wasn't made illegal per se, just in the context of an illegal rave. I'm not sure why they needed to define rave music in the legislation - if raves had only played The Carpenters at high volume, it still would have been a 'nuisance'. Iirc, some of the legal issues stemmed from trepass being a civil rather than a criminal offence in the UK.
@rogerboltoncomposer
@rogerboltoncomposer Ай бұрын
This is brilliant! Love it. Thanks Adam :-) Hans calls this 'Metric Sub-Division' which you can hear in the car chase sequence in 'The Rock'. Can we chat about some frequency research I've been doing for some time now...?
@gek9678
@gek9678 Ай бұрын
OMG Dr. Van Handel was my theory professor during my Master's at the University of British Columbia!!!
@1FunkyAsh
@1FunkyAsh Ай бұрын
Same except University of Oregon in 2003! She was about the same age as the students. Good prof.
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