You guys asked for more information on the plug failure and here it is! Definitely an interesting find. I'm super glad I did this extra testing because knowing the real reason is a real relief! Thank you all! 👍👍
@billsharp18156 ай бұрын
Good job on testing the spark plugs, very informative Justin
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
@@billsharp1815Thank you!
@ProtectiveDadPranks6 ай бұрын
There are fake Car Guy KZfaqrs out there and then there is Horsepower Obsessed!
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
My MAN!!
@billsharp18156 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you Steve 👍
@robertherd36536 ай бұрын
Yeah we know EXACTLY who the fake car guy is. Should I say the fake corvette guy who doesn’t even have a corvette! 🤦🏽♂️
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
Yes sir!
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
Display bad plug on garage wall!
@marct93606 ай бұрын
Good info. If the O2 sensor turns out to be bad, it should be covered under the emissions warranty. The firing end of the plug is called an electrode, not a diode. Since the plug was shorted to the outer shell then it would not be firing at all because the spark would be grounded to the block. Therefore there would be some raw fuel going into the exhaust system which could cause a problem with the cat on that side.
@richardelliott83524 ай бұрын
glad I read this before watching another corvette video from someone who can't even describe a spark plug
@DadsGarageDIY6 ай бұрын
Really good test. I wouldn’t have guessed a plug. I was leaning towards a wire.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Especially after I changed them out I was really uncertain because they LOOKED fine but sometimes the problem is under the surface as shown here.
@DadsGarageDIY6 ай бұрын
@@HorsePowerObsessed Yep. Crazy that happened. But, glad you figured it out.
@HBFBajaRacer6 ай бұрын
Well, good thing I did headers. Swapped the plugs and wires when I was there lol
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Always a good idea!
@paullomonaco52606 ай бұрын
Always full of information thanks so much once again
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jamesnelson74156 ай бұрын
That plug has a broken insulator inside the plug body. The insulator is basically a ceramic tube surrounding the cathode insulating it from he outer shell of the plug. Most likely, ot was dropped prior to installation and the cracking worsened over time and use. BTW, the electrical components of a spark plug are the cathode and the anode, a diode is, essentially, a one way gate for electrical current, not fund in spark plugs, although resistors are found in nearly all street car spark plugs to reduce
@robertjakicic58786 ай бұрын
Excellent detective work Brian!!
@ppeller36 ай бұрын
Good job inspector Cluezo!👍🏻
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
🫡
@davebest63696 ай бұрын
Glad you are doing this too. Great info, thanks Justin
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@vettesweetnos6 ай бұрын
I always measure my plug before putting it in. The ladies seem to appreciate the measurements.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
lolololol
@issiahsilva6 ай бұрын
If you gotta measure it, it ain’t big enough 🤣
@vettesweetnos6 ай бұрын
@issiahsilva nah, have to make sure it fits first lol
@stevenloewen88752 ай бұрын
Just had the P0300 code come up on my 2017 C7. I was thinking it wasn't the spark plugs as it only has 8000 miles on it, but I just changed them and it runs fine now.
@jordannelson92665 ай бұрын
My ‘17 C7z seems to be having this exact same issue. Hopeful that this is the fix. It was in the dealer for new pulley, tensioner, belt, and water pump last week (few days before the p0300 code came up) so I am hopeful that the dealer’s work didn’t cause this issue somehow 😅. Only 16k miles on mine, similar to your mileage I think?
@HorsePowerObsessed5 ай бұрын
Very similar mileage. It is pretty common for these plugs to get fouled it seems.
@jordannelson92664 ай бұрын
Ended up needing a new block 😅 Dealer had the car 4 times and did nothing to fix. Took it to a vette shop. They found abnormal gouging/wear on cam, lifters, etc and some extremely fine metal in the oil. I verified their findings myself. I thought these were supposed to be reliable 😂. I think you have some presence in south Florida so I recommend you avoid Autonation Chevrolet in Lake Worth!
@billmiller87826 ай бұрын
Justin - great info - and great job. Truthfully - you went further than the avg mechanic - even at the dealership. If anything you gave yourself more evidence when trying to make a warranty claim. Hopefully - they will make all parts replacements and service free of charge under your warranty -- as the problem was caused directly by a bad plug -- too bad you did not label each plug as to what cylinder they were out of.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
I appreciate it. I really just wanted to get info out to the public about it because it is obviously something that can happen to any C7 out there.
@user-jp1kl4gr8m6 ай бұрын
Your bad plug also had whiter porcelain than the other 7; less heat in the spark maybe. Your removal video showed some porcelain shots and may define the cylinder.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
I’ll definitely check it out. To be honest though I don’t think it matters a whole lot I just wanted to make sure one of the plugs was bad and we confirmed that here today.
@DHenry-cs8up6 ай бұрын
Nice find HPO. I didn't know measuring the resistance from top to bottom on a spark plug could cause an issue. Great information.
@marct93606 ай бұрын
They added the resistance to spark plugs to help suppress radio noise. That's what the stands for at the beginning of the part number for the plug. For example, the part number that I use for my '73 is R45TS where the R stands for resistance and the TS stands for projected tip, tapered seat.
@Sick_ridzАй бұрын
I wonder with the plug shorting to the aluminum block if that will jack up your alternator too. That alternator is grounded to the block too. I cant imagine stray voltage hitting the block can be good for anything grounded
@HorsePowerObsessedАй бұрын
So far, it’s good.
@leedimatteo50786 ай бұрын
wow man, the plug even looks good, the meter test confirms!!
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
💯
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
I know this isn’t problem but @scottykilmer said if you leave car running when putting gas in trips a code; I don’t know if spark plug code but interesting point I never leave car running filling gas but I have years ago
@jeffstieren44746 ай бұрын
Excellent job
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@marklagasse20126 ай бұрын
I had lean bank one code on my c6z. It wasn’t necessary but I changed both o2 sensors just so they would be done in a pair. Like not changing one plug for a misfire change them all.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I plan on doing
@marklagasse20126 ай бұрын
I would think they would be warranty also since emissions driven
@KickingTires595 ай бұрын
Justin, did you know you don’t have to remove the plugs to find the bad one?
@drewpackard66466 ай бұрын
Good job Justin 👍🏽
@craigthescott50746 ай бұрын
Does this affect the C7 Z06’s?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Yes. All of the C7s use these plugs.
@montrichardson86766 ай бұрын
I learned something new. I wonder if it would be good idea to test the new plugs before putting in the engine? It would avoid putting in a bad plug if it was a factory defect.
@brianw89636 ай бұрын
It is odd that it did not show the specific cylinder misfire. Did You clear the 420 code after replacing the plugs, and it came back? It would have had to run for a long time to compromise a cat, but if the downstream 02 sensor is good and it still gets the 420, the cat is probably bad. I think You put a different exhaust on it at some point, which would not effect the cats. But we all know how they like to void warranties when they see aftermarket parts. Hope that is not the case for You. Good luck, will be interesting to see the outcome. Also Jason, pull your engine oil dipstick out and give it a good smell and even remove the fill cap and give it a wiff. If you smell any gasoline at all, change the oil. If there is any gas in the oil, this will also cause fuel trims to be messed up.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
I did not show a P0420 code until after the P0300 code was fixed and cleared, THEN i got the P0420 code. I cleared it and it came back about 10 minutes later.
@jayjones32546 ай бұрын
Curious, do you have to "gap" the new plugs? or straight outa the box?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
You should always check them but these ones came pre-gapped and they were accurate.
@drbooo6 ай бұрын
great video HPO
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@davidnclearlaketx6 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't you number each plug as you removed it so you would know what cylinder It's associated with?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
I probably should have but changing the plugs fixed the issue. As far as I was concerned there was no bigger reason to keep any of that in my head. One of the spark plugs was bad which caused the check engine light, once I replaced all the plugs the issue was gone. I didn't need to do any further research until some of my subscribers asked for it. I didn't really think it was going to be an issue and I actually had to pull the plugs out of the garbage because like I said, I thought I was done with them.
@marklagasse20126 ай бұрын
Any news on cats or O2’s ?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Going in this upcoming week. Dealership said without looking at it, though it's very likely the catf failed after the spark plug issue. They've seen a similar issue in the past.
@marklagasse20126 ай бұрын
Keep us updated
@FrontSeatDriver6 ай бұрын
Great information, Justin!!
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate the support as always Jason!
@chasehoover_146 ай бұрын
Is there a setting on the trx fog lights to stay on when turning?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
You want them to stay on all the time or only when turning?
@chasehoover_146 ай бұрын
@@HorsePowerObsessed stay on
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
@chasehoover_14 if you press the button to turn them on it will automatically disable them from only coming on when you turn the wheel
@chasehoover_146 ай бұрын
@@HorsePowerObsessed if I have the fog lights on auto then I’m good or do I have to change anything?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
@chasehoover_14 correct.
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
Oh my on fuel pump
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
No reason for anything outside of the stock pump on a stock engine.
@tomkmetz66296 ай бұрын
Very informative
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@v10tt6 ай бұрын
Have you done any 60-130 and 100-150 on the ZR1 ? @horsepowerobsessed
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Yes I have. Not on video though.
@v10tt6 ай бұрын
@@HorsePowerObsessedwhat did it run?
@fanatic262 ай бұрын
Why on earth would that other guy change the coil and wires without ever changing the plugs?!? Some people dont deserve cars like the zr1
@yeller95vette6 ай бұрын
It’s an Electrode not Diode, thats a good job testing them.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm not a professional by any means but I wanted to get as much info out there as possible about this spark plug failure.
@yeller95vette6 ай бұрын
@@HorsePowerObsessedNo worries, great videos!! Just trying to help!
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! I’m always open to learning!
@m.g.maclaren36496 ай бұрын
The exact same thing happened to me and my C7. Bad plugs from the manufacturer?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
There is a technical service bulletin out there from Chevy talking about bad plugs from factory so it’s very possible.
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
Interesting. Just shows good research pays off!
@kerry_glock6 ай бұрын
Good Stuff!
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
👍👍
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
Dude we are a family
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
100% 🤘
@dustinschroder16 ай бұрын
The Z06 and Zr1 have low side fuel system issues, causes the cars to run lean when cold outside. Lean kills cats. Rich cools cats cool This is not your cat issue. Also if you were trying to trouble shoot issues why would you mark where the plugs came from ?
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
That doesn't make any sense. The plug is obviously the problem, after the plug was fixed then the cat became an issue. It was 40 degrees outside and I wasn't pushing the car hard so why after almost 5 years of ownership would the fuel pump NOW be a problem? It makes no sense and not one person in the know has even mentioned a fuel pump as an issue since it makes no sense. The plugs were all covered in carbon which is a GIANT sign of running rich which these cars do. I will have a full video of my trip to the dealership when they fix the cat they'll tell us what the deal is and I guarantee you, it isn't fuel pump related. I wasn't trying to trouble shoot anything until I had some people ask me about it. I knew once I changed the plugs the problem was fixed so that was all the trouble shooting I needed to do but when my subs asked for more, I did what I could.
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
Mark that puppy
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
I get dealer or parts ets to sell another full set of plugs to someone not as smart as Justin
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
Tape that damn thing down Justin sorry
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
lol I was about to!
@remnard16 ай бұрын
E3 plugs FTW
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
I prefer staying stock on this engine until modified.
@MrPghs2kid6 ай бұрын
Excellent! Great proof. Cant wait to hear what your buddy has to say about it 😂
@remnard16 ай бұрын
Nice. Using a 4 dollar or free with purchase harbor freight vom. Buy a sperry or fluke.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Doesn't have to be anything fancy for this particular test. 👍👍
@marct93606 ай бұрын
Unless you're doing high-end electronics work, a free Harbor Freight VOM works just fine.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
💯
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal29216 ай бұрын
This excellent automotive problem solving. Kudos again for another sleuth finding on a C7 series car. Nobody else is doing this.
@HorsePowerObsessed6 ай бұрын
Thanks man. I knew it was the spark plugs but now I have proof that it was and honestly it feels good to know that for sure so I’m glad I went down this road.
@stephenr1156 ай бұрын
@@HorsePowerObsessed reportwe definitely need a final
@adamgriffin6 ай бұрын
Get in the habit of changing spark plugs once a year for a healthy Gen V LT. Plugs are cheap and easy to change, there is no reason not to. Also Forums are the biggest source of disinformation. Bunch of guys afraid of voiding warranties arguing over oil weight.
@vettesweetnos6 ай бұрын
You do not need to change plugs every year, just get good ones and follow normal maintenance.
@brianw89636 ай бұрын
@@vettesweetnos Exactly. If You need to change plugs once a year, you have a problem, to say the least.