Checking Ammo in my Finnish M39 Mosin for Finnish Brutality

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Finnish Brutality 2021 is going to be a tough match in the best case. But I will be running it in a 1940 uniform, with a Mosin. A Finnish M39 Mosin, sure, but still a Mosin. That means that I have a lot of things already working against me, and the last thing I want is to have the rifle not shooting to point of aim on top of everything else. So today I'm taking my M39 out to the range to test out a variety of ammunition.
The M39 sights are nicely adjustable for windage, but elevation is a fixed scale - so I need to find a brand/loading that hits at the 150m battle sight setting without needing to hold over or under. The Finns used a 200 grain projectile, so I dug up several loading around that weight - 200gr Wolf, 204 gr mystery ammo, and 206gr Bernaul. Then I also brought some Czech 148gr light ball, Wolf 174 gr, and lastly PPU 182 gr "Match".
Rather to my surprise, the PPU was dead on, as was the Czech 148gr ball. The PPU also made the best groups, and didn't cause any sticking go the bolt (which the Czech ammo did). So, that's what I will be planning to source for the match!
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@sumvs5992 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that Ian is wearing camouflage appropriate to his surroundings

@the_senate8050 3 жыл бұрын

He’s fitting in with the shrubs.

@lukum55 3 жыл бұрын

M05 is absolutely appropriate for every situation

@evgenyreshetnikov3483 3 жыл бұрын

it'll be perfect for winter war for sure, I think

@TheMichchaal 3 жыл бұрын

There is Ian in this Vvideo? I didn't see Him

@RK18771 3 жыл бұрын

Kind of like how our military used woodland camo in the invasion of iraq!

@jessekorhonen3406 3 жыл бұрын

Gun video with the word "finnish" or "Finland" in the title: *You have summoned the Finnish conscripts*

@yksisolttu 3 жыл бұрын

Herra marsalkka, 1. Katselukomppania valmiina videota varten.

@p4nnus 3 жыл бұрын

To the town square it is

@Kurahaara86 3 жыл бұрын

@@p4nnus Be at square, or don´t be there! ...wait, WHAT?

@mattiasdahlstrom2024 3 жыл бұрын

Perkele!

@BeingFireRetardant 3 жыл бұрын

Suomi.

@osufan124 3 жыл бұрын

Even in the great ammo pandemic of 2020. Gun Jesus doesn't just shoot any ammo. He only shoots the ammo worthy of his zero.

@not-a-theist8251 3 жыл бұрын

I on the other hand shoot zero ammo

@callsignkojak6345 3 жыл бұрын

@@not-a-theist8251 I have but do not shoot

@Oblivisci........ 3 жыл бұрын

Has it really been that bad since the pandemic? Edit: I havent been a gun owner since 2019

@Stevarooni 3 жыл бұрын

@@Oblivisci........ $1/rd for _Wolf_ 9mm. That's way expensive. It's gotten better, but with the Coof and Mostly-Peaceful rioting looters, people have armed-up.

@maverickpaladin4155 3 жыл бұрын

@@Oblivisci........ fortunateiy, calibers like 54r, .303, and 7.92x57 haven't been as affected as 5.56 and 9mm, but as those disappeared, folks have bought everything else available. I was at a local big box last night. All they had was 12 gauge hunting and target loads...no rimfire or centerfire rifle or pistol ammo at all. I even them if they even sold ammo anymore. Their reply was they weren't aware of any change in policy, but it was really eerie. There were also no ARs of any kind on their racks and few if any semiautos.

@ravenslaves 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure when that Mosin was just a baby in Finland, that it never dreamed that it would ever grow up to be so warm in the Arizona Sun.

@juhomaki-petaja 3 жыл бұрын

No, it was baby in Russian Empire, grew up on Finland and now is retired in US.

@theinstitute1324 3 жыл бұрын

@@juhomaki-petaja And is rather grumpy. It thinks Arizona is too hot and anyone who thinks otherwise should get bent.

@brienmauer8134 2 жыл бұрын

Nyet! Has ALWAYS aspired to conquer land of Howdy Doody!

@neilhillis9858 2 жыл бұрын

Some Finnish Mosins were born in te northeast US lol

@AsbestosMuffins 3 жыл бұрын

Hunting Rifle Ammunition sounds like a very reliable and sustainable supplier of hunting rifle ammunition that couldn't possibly go out of business

@SgtKOnyx 3 жыл бұрын

I'm actually glad it didn't work because how in the world was Ian going to source that ammo?

@_ArsNova 3 жыл бұрын

@@SgtKOnyx Hand load to spec?

@SgtKOnyx 3 жыл бұрын

@@_ArsNova Maybe

@takingbacktoxic7898 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a few of those exact boxes back in the late 1990s, just to try it out. Pretty bad groups in my experience as well. However it did perform well at roughly 30 meters on deer. So it did keep its promise of "Hunting Rifle Ammunition" over the years.

@owllymannstein7113 3 жыл бұрын

@@SgtKOnyx It was pretty common back in the late 90's early 2000's, it wouldn't surprise me if he has a case of it lying around. You'd be amazed by the variety of different x54r ammo mosin people could acquire in those days.

@varusteleka 3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to see you in action! Hope we can pull this off and get you here!

@samijarvinen6599 3 жыл бұрын

Just make sure you have PPU ready for him😊

@soklot 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome store. Torille.

@anttimakinen1038 3 жыл бұрын

Aina se vaan jaksaa lämmittää mieltä, että Ian on hyvien puolella :)

@qelleri 3 жыл бұрын

Im afraid that participating in competition is not allowed purpose for entry for citizens outside EU. Might be easier to gain entry by transiting through another EU-country that has no border control between them and Finland. Bringing the gun is gonna be hell though. Luckily there is plenty of finnish m27 / m39 owners willing to lend their guns.

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

@@qelleri "purpose for visiting?" "Pleasure"

@112-DavidL 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian, its fun watching "behind the scenes" stuff like this you preparing for a match. Can we get more of them please?

@sheldoniusRex 3 жыл бұрын

TIL, Continuation War Finnbros were recoil absorbing masochists.

@juhomaki-petaja 3 жыл бұрын

They didnt like russian SVT:s because bolt made so huge sound. M39:s boom came from muzzle, ears wouldnt ”ring”. So recoil was better option

@fish3977 3 жыл бұрын

see when you lay on snow the recoil would actually make you slide backwards making it feel almost recoilless

@tranquilmetalhead8814 3 жыл бұрын

@@fish3977 bruh

@RiderOftheNorth1968 3 жыл бұрын

@@fish3977 Sneaky retreat!!

@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын

they also wore thicker clothing than Ian because they weren't in the Sonoran Desert...

@AndrewBeveridge461 3 жыл бұрын

"OK I've determined that this "hunting rifle ammunition" is the best of the bunch. The downside is that I used half of it figuring that out, and there might not be any more on the planet."

@PlayerSalt 3 жыл бұрын

I actually really like that the mic made the gun a lot more quiet , i already know what a gun going bang sounds like

@RT42069 3 жыл бұрын

It also helps that he's shooting in a wide flat area with nothing really to reflect the sound

@jjaska 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Really comfortable soft cutoff.

@nyosgomboc2392 3 жыл бұрын

I've always wondered what post-processing magic he's using.

@jayfrank1913 3 жыл бұрын

@@nyosgomboc2392 The mic can't process that loud of a sound so it sounds muffled.

@yoyomatafaka 3 жыл бұрын

YES PLEASE!

@magoid 3 жыл бұрын

When Henry at 9 Hole Reviews tested a Finnish Mosin, he did mention that Finnish ammo were made with slow velocity in mind. And he managed to hit a 1km target with a hand made ammo.

@klasandersson7522 3 жыл бұрын

You beat me to it, were going to suggest Henry as a guide for good Mosin results! 😎

@magoid 3 жыл бұрын

This the video where he talks about it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m6eeds2ivZatgXU.html

@PaletoB 3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense, the hunting ammo I have is usually faster (even with heavy bullets) then the target ammo.

@stevelavalette6898 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's the d166 bullet. Henry used iv888's custom load. I have actually made the same load for my M39 and then it shoots amazingly well. Love my M39 !

@owllymannstein7113 3 жыл бұрын

Its slow because the bullet is so heavy, you load a 200 grain bullet up to the speed of a 147 and you're going to get a shitload of recoil.

@candidmoe8741 3 жыл бұрын

Me: a bullet is a bullet. Gun Jesus: Let me show you some real world data.

@alexsis1778 3 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't want to get hit by any of them. But the real question is can the other person hit you with it?

@SgtKOnyx 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexsis1778 yes. Always assume yes.

@cgi2002 3 жыл бұрын

@@SgtKOnyx it's the old saying of its not the bullet with your name on it you need to worry about. Its the billions addressed "to whom it may concern". High speed lumps of metal flying in my general direction are enough reason to worry, even the ones that may miss me, might not miss someone else.

@claudiaborges8406 3 жыл бұрын

It’s like he’s showing his grades of each subject to his parents

@charliemccutcheon6030 3 жыл бұрын

Its always important to have passion

@tompura 3 жыл бұрын

I just love that Ian is wearing M05 camo while shooting the M39. Old meet's new. Greetings from Finland

@themasterofdisastr1226 3 жыл бұрын

I bet he just couldnt find the right forgotten headwear in time

@anttimakinen1038 3 жыл бұрын

@@themasterofdisastr1226 I bet he keeps a full M/36 uniform on the ready "just in case" :D

@I_am_Signal 3 жыл бұрын

You missed a joke in the title: Czeching my ammo

@am17frans 3 жыл бұрын

A Swedish mauser could be appropriate for the winter war as well.

@DirtyMardi 3 жыл бұрын

My great uncle had one of those after the war! Thanks for a good rifle neighborinos. :)

@MellowFellowOfYellow 3 жыл бұрын

Had one of these that even had the finnish 'SA' acceptance mark on it. Absolute tack driver.

@maverickpaladin4155 3 жыл бұрын

@@MellowFellowOfYellow almost all will have the [SA] mark, even the less common Sk.Y marked M39s. These were meant to end the practice of separate rifle programs for the army [SA] and civil guard (SY or Sk.Y). They're fantastic rifles on the whole and the straight-stock SAKO variants like Ian's have some really excellent triggers.

@victorolofsson2792 3 жыл бұрын

@@DirtyMardi

@RiderOftheNorth1968 3 жыл бұрын

For Ian it would be a better choice being a better rifle for the task at hand. My m/96 rifle is scary accurate and smooth cycling.

@kaiwaara 3 жыл бұрын

M39 Master Race Edit: M39s do love boat tail shaped bullets. I use 185gr Barnaul and its pretty dead on

@rob7566 3 жыл бұрын

Over open sights we are trained to put the top if the fore sight post at the bottom of the target so it's not obscured.

@MASSspec1990 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if anyone else was going to mention six o’clock hold. It reminds me of time when Ian mentioned sight post obscuring the target with Karl saying ‘six o’clock’...

@jubuttib 3 жыл бұрын

FWIW at least with the RK-62 in the Finnish SDF this wasn't the doctrine when I went. We were instructed to hold it so that we see the target (meaning "the bullseye", not the whole thing) just above the post.

@PapaSchultz74 3 жыл бұрын

Karl from Inrange allways points out that Ian doesn't like the 6 o'clock hold but insists on holding dead on. Hopefully he's not shooting 300 m in Switzerland as the sights are meant to be at six o'clock.

@admscoo622 3 жыл бұрын

This, also the fact that the front post is available in different heights to fit various rifles. The taller ones (if all else being equal means lower POI) tend to have been scrounged up by people who are not into handloading and ground down until a satisfactory result is acheived. I'm pretty sure the arsenal stocks of front sight posts have all but dried up nowadays. In Finland the perhaps most common Mosin load is Sako's factory "7,62x53R Range" load which is an .308 (not .310) 8g/123gr FMJ load for, surprise surprise, shooting range applications.

@hammergodsix 3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to the videos from Finnish brutality. You peaked my curiosity at "shooting in Finnish kit" but then you said "in Finland" and now you have my attention.

@nolanasd6092 3 жыл бұрын

This video is honestly one of the most wholesome I've ever seen. Just seeing Ian happy at the range is so nice.

@et_5589 3 жыл бұрын

If you end up being able to could you make a video about how to safely and legally transport a firearm between the United States and Finland? I believe it would be an interesting topic.

@JohnADoe-pg1qk 3 жыл бұрын

And back, too.

@judahboyd2107 3 жыл бұрын

Disassemble rifle. Put metal pieces is layered plastic bags. Put stock in luggage. Get a car. Open the cars battery. Put plastic bags in car battery. Secure rifle barrel to car frame. Cross border to Russia. Ship car to Germany by train. Ship car to US by sea or air. Take plane to the US. Retrieve car. Remove plastic bags from car battery. Assemble rifle.

@adamlewis5765 3 жыл бұрын

@@judahboyd2107 He did say legally...

@deepbludreams 3 жыл бұрын

It's a bolt action rifle, it's pretty much legal in most countries and importing them for personal use back and forth like this is not too hard, hard case in checked luggage, both sides check it and bam you are good to go, it gets fucky when you start playing with the more spicy stuff like ARs and handguns.

@tarmaque 3 жыл бұрын

A friend of my Grandfather (who died in the early 90's) was a Finnish immigrant. He used to go back to Finland every year for shooting competitions. It was a different era, but I seem to remember he had little difficulty transporting his firearms. However I didn't know him super well so it may be he just left his competition stuff with relatives. He visited there often. Nice guy. Used to take my brother goose and duck hunting, and me a couple of times. He was in the US Army between the wars, and I have his service 1911 that my Dad bought from him before he died.

@DirtyMardi 3 жыл бұрын

Really hope you can participate and that the event is held at all. We shall see how the pandemic develops. Anyway, welcome back whenever!

@grandpaweber2097 3 жыл бұрын

Even your "just screwing around on the range" videos are fun, interesting and informative. Keep 'em coming!

@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers for the upload. Not so much with specifics but as to the method you use and solutions you employ. Thanks again.

@brasstard7.627 3 жыл бұрын

I used to cringe when Ian used to shoot that great Czech blue box through a belt fed. Most accurate surplus Ive tried in my M39 and PSL

@CzechoslovakGunStories 3 жыл бұрын

The silver tips are actually sniper ammo for OPU vz. 54... hard to come by here in the Czech Republic..... :)

@deneios1905 3 жыл бұрын

Do take in to account that depending on location the temperature in february can range from +5C to -15C in Finland. So powder burn rate can be an issue.

@farmerbrown84 3 жыл бұрын

At ranges up to 150-200m, it will not matter - as long as the cartridge ignites and burns properly.

@minhducnguyen674 3 жыл бұрын

This is new to me, I though countries near the arctic circle has huge differences in temperature between summer and winter. Siberia can be - 30 C in winter and up to 35C in summer. And in Finnland it's only 5C max?

@mikaelnuutila6370 3 жыл бұрын

@@minhducnguyen674 In february

@LdHrothgar 3 жыл бұрын

@@minhducnguyen674 He did say the temps "in February" so he's not talking summer/winter swings.

@minhducnguyen674 3 жыл бұрын

@@LdHrothgar Yea, I forgot that

@GearKnowHow 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! You don’t see many good ammo comparisons with the M39. I love mine!

@jamesroeber 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian, thanks, simple but yes very interesting I like the practical aspect of this sort of segment, especially being I am in the UK so practically no chance to shoot this rifle, I am living vicariously through you, thanks

@MrBacktotheroot 3 жыл бұрын

182 PPU. I love it! Discovered them a few months ago an would never use another one since then.

@failure2flinch876 3 жыл бұрын

That gold box PPU has shot well out of many of my rifles

@TheGearhead222 3 жыл бұрын

These are the nicest Mosin-Nagants. I disassembled my M39 to remove all storage oils and discovered that the Finns used brass shims to bed the action-John in Texas

@mattolfson9230 3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to watching you at Brutality!

@Strikerz0r 3 жыл бұрын

I think Lapua makes some good ammunition for that.

@custodirelegem6423 3 жыл бұрын

Ristus kun tämä Iani ampuisi lapualaasilla, niin punaiseen maalitauluun osuminen olisi sata varma!

@Strikerz0r 3 жыл бұрын

@@custodirelegem6423 Ei se kyllä noilla osumilla kuntsaria oo saamassa :D

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

Pricey, though. PPU is inexpensive enough that you can buy lots for practice.

@surgeon591 3 жыл бұрын

I've had excellent results cloning the original Finnish load in my M39, running a D166 200gr bullet at about 2340fps using N140 powder. It consistantly shoots 1-1.5 moa groups and matches the elevation adjustments on the sights perfectly. I have tried that PPU match ammo though, and it's probably the best option for factory ammo

@h.k.6947 2 жыл бұрын

Paljonko laitat ruutia?

@matthewsmith4599 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck ian! I really wish that i could have shared your channel with my dad. He would have loved it. Great job

@trenacook7694 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and darn good marksmanship sir. I love the ppu 182 in my M39.

@johnknouse8846 3 жыл бұрын

PPU shoots really well in my Mosin. And surprisingly, the cheap Monarch does too!

@5roundsrapid263 3 жыл бұрын

The steel-cased Monarch is Barnaul. The brass-cased Monarch is PPU.

@WvlfDarkfire 3 жыл бұрын

It's a good day when Ian's at the range

@hanktorrance6855 3 жыл бұрын

Always interesting to see the background and also graphic examples of how different rounds perform. We often read the summary in a gun test, such and such round was best in this gun, or the gun hated this round, but you showed practical results,. Sure they give group size but you gave location as well

@dmndsol 3 жыл бұрын

I did enjoy this video. I've always liked the history aspect of this channel but the technical and engineering specs that you share are my favourite.

@gergokerekes4550 3 жыл бұрын

non-gun people: why is it hard to pick ammo? just buy the type that fits , easy. me with at least 6 diferent boxes of .308: yeah, no.

@justafence 3 жыл бұрын

As a non-gun person, this is me with my pens and ink.

@gergokerekes4550 3 жыл бұрын

@@justafence I wanted to buy a nice fountain pen as a gift once and went into a specialist shop. I could barely understand what was what.

@coolsenjoyer 3 жыл бұрын

For a Finnish Mosin it should be really easy though, Lapua 7.62x53R :P

@gergokerekes4550 3 жыл бұрын

@@coolsenjoyer yeah, lapua rounds are not cheap but damn they are good. One of the few rounds that I can safely call a boar 1 stepper, fast and flat and also hits like a truck.

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

"how many shoes do you try on before you find one that really fits, despite them all being the same size?"

@Psiberzerker 3 жыл бұрын

As long as he doesn't DNF. That would be embarrassing, if everyone else is Finnish.

@Stevarooni 3 жыл бұрын

Take my up-vote, you deviant!

@Erden99 3 жыл бұрын

Did not Finnish, at Finnish brutality. Utterly unacceptable!

@foxmcld584 3 жыл бұрын

*slow clap*

@Psiberzerker 3 жыл бұрын

Because of the model of rifle, it would make sense if he was Russian to Finnish, is alls I'm saying.

@elwayfan01 3 жыл бұрын

You glorious bastard. I love bad (good?) puns.

@iarissei 3 жыл бұрын

I love your text corrections that you add in editing. :-)

@richarddixon7276 3 жыл бұрын

Good shooting on open sights at 150M Well done Ian , Good Luck with the Match , Shoot Straight , Stay Safe & Stay Well .

@ketchman8299 3 жыл бұрын

Definetly check your velocities. Henry at 9 Hole Reviews states the original Finnish load was " slow".

@ElectricTree 3 жыл бұрын

'Finnish Mosin bias intensifies'

@davem3362 3 жыл бұрын

I look forward to the video of the match!

@kylevonscheerschmidt8337 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful straight stock m39! I love all my Finnish mosins! beautiful and accurate when you get the right ammo for sure.

@dieselXJ 3 жыл бұрын

Nice shooting, totally under standard why you were looking for that rifle...

@Unit93JV 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the good ol´ days of "Fire at the nuts!"

@peterpv56 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Ian - much thanks.

@evilunclestu5862 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a well edited video. Not a bunch of boring, repetitive shots (pun intended). We watch your content because we trust you, so you don't have to document every detail for these videos. Makes them very watchable compared to other creators.

@bigw8699 3 жыл бұрын

In Finland you can also buy 7.62x53R from Sako. A box of 50 (fmj) costs about 55 dollars. It’s a bit on the pricey side but it has grouped very well for me at 150 meters. I’ve used it in my M28/30. Sako also sells heavier soft point ammo in boxes of 20. If you can’t find PPU in Finland, Sako is a great option. I highly recommend it.

@patterisepi 3 жыл бұрын

Also the correct caliber for finnish bore.

@bigw8699 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, definately. Especially if the barrel doesn’t have the ”D” stamp, which mine doesn’t.

@zorro456 3 жыл бұрын

Knows this Answer. "Wolf Military Classic 7.62X54R Extra Match 200 Grain FMJ" Bit expensive though. Made in Serbia.

@MADMAX353 Жыл бұрын

Excellent work!

@deathmetalelitist666 3 жыл бұрын

Something about these videos is so satisfying

@AR-GuidesAndMore 3 жыл бұрын

Turns out rifle was originally sighted for a six oClock hold because its superior. :D

@weege5.45 3 жыл бұрын

Twas the philosophy of the time. More like belt buckle hold on most rifles for a hit to the chest. So technically it was shooting low to begin with.

@jeffreyroot6300 3 жыл бұрын

@@weege5.45 That goes well back into the 18th and 19th centuries as well!

@CMBlessing81 3 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought when I heard him mention his point of aim.

@tituspullo9210 3 жыл бұрын

As always, great video Ian. You are a joy to watch and listen to - no over the top macho bullshit. This is the channel for intellectuals 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@twestgard2 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure that’s the best way to compliment a gun channel. 😂

@LdHrothgar 3 жыл бұрын

@@twestgard2 Except it is an excellent compliment. Ian doesn't NEED to be an over the top macho dbag, and he's not.

@percher4824 3 жыл бұрын

@@twestgard2 Dunno about you, but I'd rather not watch some pretender.

@tituspullo9210 3 жыл бұрын

@@twestgard2 With respect, my opinion...I was in the SADF (South African Defence Force) and am a veteran of the Angolan war. So I feel qualified enough to say that no macho bullshit is needed. Ian should be held as a shining example of how a channel should be.

@Cheva-Pate 3 жыл бұрын

Ian, you have a great job!

@baconx4 3 жыл бұрын

Shot mine last Friday. Still love it! Looks like a military surplus ammo kind of a year. Great video and love the straight stock.

@Dick_Gozinya 3 жыл бұрын

I've always had good luck with PPU ammo, the relatively low price they charge is icing on the cake. Plus, their brass is always outstanding if you reload.

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

My only "complaint" is how dirty the powder is. Comes off easy, but a box or two and the inside of the rifle is black.

@RCZM64 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on caliber. The ones I use most (.308 and .30 carbine) are very inconsistent from round to round, and only one type of .308 hunting rounds worked well enough to group and get a decent zero in the scope of a single shot Contender. But no problems with the 7'92 hunting ammo available here.

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

@@RCZM64 huh. I found the 7.62x54R very consistent. Just gunky.

@joseantoniogarciasampedro6855 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottKenny1978 cannot say about that one, only the ones I mentioned. But makes sense, from a former Yugoslavia factory.

@joelerk6298 3 жыл бұрын

Finnish mosin, best mosin Swedish mauser, best mauser 10mm, best mm

@tylerblubaugh5549 3 жыл бұрын

*7.62

@3of11 3 жыл бұрын

“Best Mosin” is kind of like being the smartest kid in remedial math. 😂

@impliedtomato8760 3 жыл бұрын

Good video, looking forward to seeing you compete on here

@Pelleministeri 3 жыл бұрын

This was very interesting stuff! Thank you for that.

@wyattgunsallus131 3 жыл бұрын

If your going to Finland just get lapua 7.62x53r they should have some there

@aceelectriccompany1181 3 жыл бұрын

54r ?!

@wyattgunsallus131 3 жыл бұрын

@@aceelectriccompany1181 no finns used 53r

@BootedVulture 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty optimistic to be anticipating travelling in Feb isn't it?

@peabase 3 жыл бұрын

If Ian takes his shots, it'll be OK.

@josholdham1033 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid as usual

@Igor_TT 3 жыл бұрын

The action is so smooth...

@purpledinosaur5118 3 жыл бұрын

Engineer gaming

@gerald1495 3 жыл бұрын

yes

@percher4824 3 жыл бұрын

Don't know what this has to do with the video, so I'm gonna have to ask you to take this somewhere else where it's more appropriate.

@percher4824 3 жыл бұрын

@@POTATOEH81 Time and place for everything. Basic manners.

@percher4824 3 жыл бұрын

@@POTATOEH81 Because it's an unfunny meme that's completely unrelated to the actual video in every possible way.

@percher4824 3 жыл бұрын

@@POTATOEH81 I'm saying that it's mindless spam. Just because you find it funny doesn't mean you should post it absolutely everywhere. Imagine going to a grocery store just to blast meme music for two hours straight, or printing out a bunch of memes on paper and taping them to walls everywhere. Sounds dumb, yeah? Well, that's how I view this kind of crap when it's posted outside of places where they're relevant.

@not-a-theist8251 3 жыл бұрын

Brutality match with a bolt action? Are you mad or a masochist?

@Stevarooni 3 жыл бұрын

Why choose?

@mikecohen2400 3 жыл бұрын

Continuation war, the rifle will fit right in.

@littlebigheroman 3 жыл бұрын

Why yes!

@juhomaki-petaja 3 жыл бұрын

Mad and masochist=Finn

@anttimakinen1038 3 жыл бұрын

Why not? Both of my grandfathers did that and lived to not tell about it.

@theplinkerslodge6361 3 жыл бұрын

Great share, I am waiting for my M39 to arrive. I have been able to find PPU 150g Soft points, so far.

@hotrodhendrix1 3 жыл бұрын

Dude you are awesome. Thanks for the awesome info.

@robosoldier11 3 жыл бұрын

PPU is a great company when it comes to these old calibers. Only problem with them is there not cheap lol.

@maverickpaladin4155 3 жыл бұрын

Before the Second Great Ammo Dearth, you could get the PPU Match ammo for about $0.80 - $1 a round plus shipping. Standard commercial LB and HB ran about half that, and surplus was around $0.30 - $0.35 a round, sometimes less if you could find a good deal. Currently, surplus and commercial LB and HB have stabilized and are running $0.50 or more. This match ammo runs between $0.85 and $1.40 + shipping and tax. Fortunately, most folks are focused on 9mm and 5.56. Expensive is a highly subjective term.

@robosoldier11 3 жыл бұрын

@@maverickpaladin4155 Ya I usually get a box of 20 of 8mm mauser for like 22 dollars and around the same for the 7.62 Russian rimmed at the local gun range I go to. I don't think I'm getting scammed or anything its just god dam does it stack up if you actually want to spend an actual afternoon shooting at the range with these old time stuff. Which is honestly all I have lol.

@maverickpaladin4155 3 жыл бұрын

@@robosoldier11 reloading, my friend. It's the best way to enjoy these old warhorses while keeping costs down and honing some really accurate loads tuned to your rifle. The other thing you might try are (I hope I'm getting the name right) accuracy wraps. They're essentially cloth "shims" designed to make barrel harmonics consistent. They go under the handguard at the barrel bands on a Mosin.

@robosoldier11 3 жыл бұрын

@@maverickpaladin4155 See I want to get into reloading but I just don't know where to start. Not only in an equipment sense but material as well. I mean Idk whats considered a "good deal" for said equipment and they certainly aren't cheap.

@raics101 3 жыл бұрын

@@robosoldier11 The first thing you need is an old shed to do it in, juuust in case something goes pizdyec.

@palkappy8581 3 жыл бұрын

Would shooting that high at the battle sight zero have to do with the popularity of a six o’ clock hold?

@jeffreyroot6300 3 жыл бұрын

I think so!

@WildCouleeCo. 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Thanks!

@spondal1 3 жыл бұрын

PPU prevails! Would be cool to get some of that velocity data from a chronograph though, especially some other surplus ammo.

@jokerd8524 3 жыл бұрын

Just out of curiosity, would the sub-zero temps of Finland affect the ammo ballistics as compared to it being in Arizona?

@banaana1234 3 жыл бұрын

Cold air is denser so yes, a bit. I dont think that it would be even measurable at these ranges though.

@farmerbrown84 3 жыл бұрын

Two things - 1. cold ammo = much lower velocity (which isn't a real issue at short ranges - say, under 500m). If really cold, there could be patchy ignition and burn. 2. Long range, the air is cold and dense, so the bullets do not fly as well, although it takes quite a bit of distance to start to see the difference (and a much more accurate rifle than a Mosin M39).

@Curtislow2 3 жыл бұрын

@@Squad23jta Me as well. I would suspect the humidity would be a greater factor. And powder burn rate a lower temp could be an issue.

@jukkakopol7355 3 жыл бұрын

I am a finnish hunter and we use to keep our ammo inside of jacket. If you use finnish ammo like SAKO or Lapua or swedish Norma it's not big a proplem but with many other brand can velocity drop much. temperature is one reason why finnish army developed hotter smg ammo. Even modern handguns can not handle that ammo.

@connorcampbell5274 3 жыл бұрын

Yes on two fronts. Not only is the air denser, thus slowing the bullet faster, but powder is generally pretty temperature sensitive. Unsurprisingly, European powders like, say Vihta Vuori make an effort to be as little temperature sensitive as possible.

@Treasuremonk 3 жыл бұрын

you thought of this a year ago, ordered targets from Optic planet and they just arrived this week! 🤣

@karsonbranham3900 3 жыл бұрын

You could definitely tell the stout report from the echo, nice rifle and nice chootin!

@mildbill2806 3 жыл бұрын

Mighty informative video. So, when I am having a bad day at the range, I'll blame it on the ammo. Seriously, It sure does open my eyes that range practice with different ammo is important.

@lptomtom 3 жыл бұрын

It's strange to see a M39 with a straight stock, it kinda negates one of the rifle's advantages over normal Mosins though

@NorCalSaint 3 жыл бұрын

True, although it makes a neat addition to a collection

@maverickpaladin4155 3 жыл бұрын

The first M39s (SAKO only, dated 1941, S/N range roughly 200,000 - 214,000 IIRC) had straight stocks because they were unable to obtain wood for the new stock design at that time and thus used modified M28 stocks already in inventory for the first few thousand rifles.

@NorCalSaint 3 жыл бұрын

@@maverickpaladin4155 Mine is 207xxx

@okaro6595 3 жыл бұрын

@@maverickpaladin4155 I think it was simply using the blanks they had ready i.e. a cost issue.

@skyshark425 3 жыл бұрын

How often do you go through sleeping pads?

@SmallHandsBigBite 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Ian, great video! I'm stocked to the brim with PPU match for my M39 and this is great to see! I'm also sitting on multiple cases of yellow tip Russian ammo and it wasn't until recently I found out how much they're worth. Would rather not shoot those and I'm happy to see that PPU is the way to go.

@patrickgjorven7832 3 жыл бұрын

Nice looking rifle too!

@stevendewell5505 3 жыл бұрын

Ian, in Finland, in February. He is going to freeze his ponytail off!

@TheSpekkel1 3 жыл бұрын

Temperature has been quite mild this winter and southern Finland doesn't experience that harsh cold anyways, so I think he is going to be fine.

@alexmoore1506 3 жыл бұрын

It isn’t the first time he’s attended

@Ashfielder 3 жыл бұрын

Will you be wearing extremely bulky gloves?

@Van-nk4ee 3 жыл бұрын

The thing like the satisfying crunch of cycling that old bolt

@dem0nchild610 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you did this I have a m39 it's not straight stock and I have mojo sights on it but it shoots high left and I was using tulammo in place of the surplus that came with it

@nenadgrbic8275 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Serbia!

@AllAboutMiims 3 жыл бұрын

'Perfect match' haha, you slay me komrade! Simo Häyhä enters the chat Ah...

@Brandon-io9yj 3 жыл бұрын

i love this kind of content

@Hercules1-v9m 3 жыл бұрын

Showing us the M39. I think I know what you chose for 9 Hole Review's recent scenario discussion.

@dmg4415 3 жыл бұрын

Look for Lapuua, must be some in the US, plentiful in Finland?

@TheSpekkel1 3 жыл бұрын

A box of lapua costs over 50$/per box or 20 rounds, in finland. Sako does make nice accurate fmj, which are 1.21$/round if you buy 50 round box. Ppu is also available but never tried it, as the sako ammo runs through my guns great.

@dmg4415 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSpekkel1 Does SAKO make the ammmo or just branding some one elses?

@TheSpekkel1 3 жыл бұрын

@@dmg4415 They produce it themselves, here in Finland.

@dmg4415 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSpekkel1 Good, a country needs its own ammo factory. At least 2 commercial and 1 government owned for military use, in time of crisis, the civilians coul easily turn over to rifle/carbin and handgun ammo.

@TheSpekkel1 3 жыл бұрын

@@dmg4415 and it is simply nice to buy domestic stuff, maybe for bit more than say sellier&bellot from Czechia, which makes nice ammo too but it's not domestic.

@RNKel1 3 жыл бұрын

@darinfoat8410 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a tough competition. I hope you make it to the Finnish line.

@_malprivate2543 3 жыл бұрын

I am SOOO jealous that it is so much easier for Ian to have the kind of gun my grandfathers used during WW2 than it is for me. Then again, he is Gun Jesus and he brings us the Good Word. Thank you, Ian for another interesting video. I'm glad to see you have an interest in Finnish guns. Who knows, maybe that will be your next book? ;)