Checking on my Investment in Person - Framework Laptop Factory Tour

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While in Taiwan for Computex, linus decided it was the perfect time to check in on his investment in Framework in person. It’s factory tour time, baby!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Intro
1:05 - CableMod!
1:17 - What it takes to build more laptops
2:15 - Preproduction vs. Mass Production
3:39 - Automatic Screwing Machine
4:45 - Kitting Stations
6:00 - Assembly
8:20 - Quality Control
11:37 - Rejects
12:52 - Signing some Laptops
14:11 - CableMod!
14:56 - Outro

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@SDMasterYoda Жыл бұрын

So the DIY one is actually more labor intensive, but they still charge less for it. Crazy!

@GSBarlev Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that surprised me. I'm not sure if that's just because they're still in the pre-production phase or if the lower cost is due to some other factor (like VAT savings or some regulatory loophole).

@matthewlozy1140 Жыл бұрын

Very surprising!

@Farquad76.547 Жыл бұрын

Yeah how Damn stupid is that lol

@gregor2436 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand, why they are doing it that way. Why not only ship the stuff directly?

@Amythiz Жыл бұрын

@@gregor2436how would they test it than? DIY laptop should still pass quality control

@nepp- Жыл бұрын

if companies were more open like this, I'm sure their brand trust would be much better

@inadequateusername7280 Жыл бұрын

This assembly line is no different than any other laptop assembly line. A company like Dell likely has their own due to vertical integration and such. There's only so many ways you can build a laptop.

@zacharytaylor8523 Жыл бұрын

@@inadequateusername7280 I swear there is a certain attitude that comes out of certain people when others ask about having a compony open up a little. While I would agree there are only so many ways to make something, it's the little things that can make a big difference in what users experience and the companies that are venomously against any type of peek into their process I guarantee you has shit to hide. I know Dell does as they shipped me a laptop that flat-out didn't have the Wi-Fi antennas connected.

@Jehty_ Жыл бұрын

What do you mean? Like seriously... We didn't see anything in this video. You will find a video of this depth for basically every major brand.

@Wither_Strike Жыл бұрын

@@Jehty_I saw more in this video than I've seen from Dell or apple. Most of it was stuff that seemed like common sense, only so many ways to build a laptop, but the fact that they showed this much is still more than other companies

@inadequateusername7280 Жыл бұрын

@@Wither_Strike have you never seen Foxconn building an iPhone?

@MrScorpianwarrior Жыл бұрын

I just realized that Linus only funded around $200,000 to Framework, but the marketing that Framework gets out of videos like this has got to be INSANELY high. I have 4 laptops I don't use (of various ages and power) but I still really want to buy a Framework...

@MrMoon-hy6pn Жыл бұрын

I'm not saying you can't, but doesn't buying something you won't use go against frameworks entire philosophy of reducing waste?

@MrScorpianwarrior Жыл бұрын

@@MrMoon-hy6pn It certainly does lol

@wilddemur9796 Жыл бұрын

@@MrMoon-hy6pn Well if he does get a Framework he won't need to hop from laptop to laptop anymore since it can be upgraded over time

@theangryintern Жыл бұрын

I have a brand new M2 MBP and an Asus windows gaming laptop I bought last year and I still really want to get the 16" framework when it comes out.

@veerand541 Жыл бұрын

I think it was specified in an early Framework video that his marketing power is why they chose him instead some other investors.

@KarlRock Жыл бұрын

These behind the scenes video are awesome.

@theshivrajroy Жыл бұрын

our indian pewdiepie is here lmao

@liberationyogi Жыл бұрын

What's up I love u

@ls200076 Жыл бұрын

True

@CaesarHoHouin Жыл бұрын

Big fan of your videos mate

@Don_Kiddick Жыл бұрын

@@theshivrajroy holy shit im ded

@posarkar5314 Жыл бұрын

its so great to see huge companies boosting small channels like Linus

@JJFlores197 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@bhoot1702 Жыл бұрын

Huh

@novalassassin5496 Жыл бұрын

@@phant0m597i mean that pretty big but that's not the point 😅

@novalassassin5496 Жыл бұрын

@@L2002 Ok I just grew up what now ?

@vmafarah9473 Жыл бұрын

@@L2002 yOU point will be big if you have a great genetics.

@telotawa Жыл бұрын

I absolutely would buy the ones that don't pass the visual QA. Please, Framework, make that an option. Edit: I don't even want the discount. I'll pay full price.

@KevinCrouch0 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I don't know if it would actually be worth it to cost less though. Because it would require manual time to inventory the blemishes, you know?

@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinCrouch0 i mean apparently for the DIY laptops they literally unbuild the thing, so taking pictures really isnt the biggest step

@lightningdev1 Жыл бұрын

@@KevinCrouch0 The DIY version is also marginally cheaper than the pre-built while it also requires more labor though

@brentw8365 Жыл бұрын

Thought they sold refurb units with these, but apparently not.

@harmonic5107 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. That'd be awesome. Having the option to buy damaged parts from returns would be awesome too

@Ixxlostinabox Жыл бұрын

Nirav seems like such a cool dude, I really hope Framework is successful not just because I think it's a great idea but I also think Nirav deserves the success based on his overall vision, we need more people pushing for cool sustainable ideas like this.

@cyb221100 Жыл бұрын

As a manufacturing engineer I can appreciate the small design changes to facilitate the installation and improve takt time. You can definitely tell the process is not optimised for full production and there are a lot of tweeks that can be done. I would love to see more content like this! Especially related to your products or even LTT labs processes.

@boysenbeary Жыл бұрын

Honestly loving these “Linus checks out something he wants” kinda videos

@mickolesmana5899 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it is happy to see that when Linus putting off the burden of him being CEO. Honestly it is very fresh to see

@Eogos Жыл бұрын

@@mickolesmana5899 pretty sure he said on the WAN show that all these so far are filmed while he's still been doing CEO work, a few before the decision was even fully decided and/or announced.

@Adriono100 Жыл бұрын

Never thought I would watch 15 minutes of a small company making such great laptops 👌

@Soul-Burn Жыл бұрын

Factory tours are the best! Linus' trip to Intel's fab was super interesting. GN just did a tour of AMD, which was also cool to see.

@Scnottaken Жыл бұрын

I had to keep repeating to myself "I don't need it"

@drewo.127 Жыл бұрын

@@Scnottaken Face it dude… YOU NEEEEEED IIIIIIIIIIT!!!!

@FaZekiller-qe3uf Жыл бұрын

@@ScnottakenI NEEEEEEEEEEED IT.

@TvMaNightmareHD Жыл бұрын

The scratch and dent ones could totally be sponsored by Dbrand, make it pretty and easy sale

@captainpumpkinhead1512 Жыл бұрын

In the three Framework videos we've gotten so far where Nirav has been present, it's been fun kind of watching the dynamic between him and Linus. I'm not sure how to describe it, it's just fun. It's like the energetic friend and the quiet friend dynamic.

@jonathannoneofyourbusiness4123 Жыл бұрын

Few months after my purchase of a framework and I frankly have no regrets. Like Linus, I really hope framework is successful... We need more repairable laptops and laptops built for linux. :)

@bionicgeekgrrl Жыл бұрын

We need more repairable technology in general. We need to move away from the disposable culture that has developed.

@WildMidwest1 11 ай бұрын

Agreed. Out of curiosity, which linux distro did you settle on? Did you struggle with drivers, for instance involving the fingerprint sensor? How reliably is suspend mode? I have an HP Dev One (AMD Ryzen 7) with three linux distros currently installed. I never needed to install a driver for any of the 10+ distros I tried, and I never experienced a sleep issue with any of them. Sadly the Dev One line was EOL’ed by HP in January, so it’s not a Frame competitor anymore. I love the Dev One fit and finish. Some people complain about its screen viewing angle but it doesn’t bother me. 64 gb RAM and 2 TB SSD upgrades were a breeze… around five minutes after doing it a couple times. My latest Dev One upgrade is a 1.5 mm copper heatsink to the SSD, which it definitely helps attenuate temp fluctuations. Good value for < $5 shipped. Using the thinnest available contact adhesive strip to the controller chip was necessary to avoid pressure against the bottom case.. Can you add a heatsink to the SSD inside your Framework 13?

@gorillafighter4037 Жыл бұрын

I love how friendly the CEO is and basically humors Linus' Shenaningans/jokes.

@Tsuroerusu Жыл бұрын

And throws in some sick burns when needed! xD

@baseballjustin5 Жыл бұрын

Helps he paid a Quarter Mill, I think, lol

@muddystick Жыл бұрын

Dude is a significant shareholder, businesses will do whatever they can to humour shareholders.

@baseballjustin5 Жыл бұрын

@Dale did he get shares, or did he just invest?

@gabm.3475 Жыл бұрын

@baseballjustin5 what do you mean by get shares or just invest? Buying shares = investing. In the case of framework it's not publicly traded so only certified investors (aka people who are rich enough to face the higher risk of losing when investing in risky companies)can buy shares so I guess it's more complicated then just buying shares but I'm a little confused by your question.

@AgentOrange96 Жыл бұрын

The fact that the Framework uses screws to hold the keyboard together is very telling. Normally those get riveted together, but I guess when your end goal is repairability, that goes out the window. God, I can't wait to get one of these machines!

@TheBackyardChemist Жыл бұрын

Riveted? Bah, I wish. They are mostly heat-staked.

@blockbertus Жыл бұрын

@@TheBackyardChemist which is the plastic version of a metal rivet. same but different.

@AgentOrange96 Жыл бұрын

@@blockbertus @TheBackyardChemist True. This is what I meant, but I suppose real riveting would at least make it easy to drill out and replace.

@blockbertus Жыл бұрын

@@sys-administrator you have loctite for that on screws. thats the blue stuff you sometimes see on Laptop screws.

@AgentOrange96 Жыл бұрын

@@sys-administrator In theory. The Model M keyboard is a counterexample though. But most laptops won't be used that long and honestly even then I doubt they're as likely to have that issue as the Model M.

@199Bubi Жыл бұрын

I work in a low volume, flexible production, company that manufactures electronics in Germany and I have the urge to optimize. Also @Linus: Especially with super varying products a faster line isn't always better! A slower production that keeps inventory small and only produces what's demanded can yield way better results! Also scalability as in multiplying lines is only good if you already have like 20 lines. Otherwise you have to double sales for it to make sense to double the lines for example from one to two

@tams805 Жыл бұрын

I mean, they're using Compel as the ODM. They aren't exactly a small company.

@199Bubi Жыл бұрын

@@tams805 To clarify: Low volume goods manufacturing doesn't equal small company. It means high variation manufacturing with a lot of manual labour, which is expensive and should therefore be optimized as much as possible.

@rodrigoaranda7029 11 ай бұрын

keeps you flexible enough

@hyperion8650 Жыл бұрын

Honestly the framework videos are super entertaining to watch. Framework succeeding as a brand is one of the best things for modern technology, since it has the potential to make other brands follow it's example and overall be better for the consumer. Also, the idea of giving little hints to the consumers inside of their pc's (on a laptop that's all modular) is pretty amazing!

@autohmae Жыл бұрын

They are the Fairphone of laptops

@Call_Me_David Жыл бұрын

I can just imagine the conversations Nirav has with his s.o. when he gets home and vents about the stressful things Linus put him through that particular time. He seems to be a good sport about it and takes it on stride, but you can still tell he gets a little nervous. It is fun to watch though, and that's precisely why Linus does it.

@Quizack Жыл бұрын

He has a lot riding on this company. His entire career hinges on the success of Framework, and he needs to be able to focus on and control and every aspect of the company that he possibly can. He can’t afford any bad publicity, or controversy. Linus is a great dude, and is clearly very passionate about Framework, but we all know he’s not a very mature and careful guy. However, Linus definitely has a very large audience too, so any videos on Framework can potentially mean thousands of dollars in new customers, or at the very least tens of thousands new potential customers and the brand awareness. IMO, Nirav knows what he’s getting with Linus, and as much as he appreciates it, he’s also rightfully anxious. If it wasn’t for LTT I wouldn’t have known about Framework and bought one myself. Looking forward to Q4!

@hiddendrifts Жыл бұрын

@@Quizack i honestly forget where i first heard of framework, but it definitely wasn't from linus. it was super cool, just like frore, to see a big tech channel talking about a product i'd only vaguely heard of initially [in the case of frore, from PC World]

@Gatorade69 Жыл бұрын

@@Quizack I mean I only know of Framework because of LTT. While I don't currently have the need for a laptop but if I did I would instantly be a customer of Framework.

@weirdovillemania9978 Жыл бұрын

Nirav is sexy

@Call_Me_David Жыл бұрын

@@theftking I figured that was already assumed by everyone.

@alexanderf8451 Жыл бұрын

Framework should absolutely have an "ugly vegetable" type of option for units with scratches. There are plenty of people who don't care about every square millimeter of the finish being perfect.

@urmomsahoe1 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking 2 or 3 different categories for different levels of damaged to make selling easier. No specific pictures just a general idea of what will be wrong with it.

@demospolsion6539 Жыл бұрын

@@urmomsahoe1Also maybe a little 1-2 sentences saying the type of damage and location. Like “scratch on bottom panel” or “dent on top panel”

@greebj Жыл бұрын

That's what the second hand market is for lol

@yokun1885 Жыл бұрын

@@greebjsecond hand implies that someone already used the product the first time

@quantumsniper9433 Жыл бұрын

@@urmomsahoe1 Usually for this kind of stuff you'd sell "B-stock", A stock being normal units that passed qc while B stock has minor cosmetic issues

@Chrismettal Жыл бұрын

Love the transparency! Nothing better than factory tours showing the actual processes in place.

@jessechristman1471 Жыл бұрын

I can already feel the tension melting off of Linus after he announced hes stepping down from CEO. His content is going to be so much more enjoyable now that he gets to be excited about the things he actually wants to do

@matasa7463 Жыл бұрын

Framework's CEO Nirav is quite good on camera, moreso than many CEOs out there! It's almost like he has a ton of experience in front of a camera...

@PrograError Жыл бұрын

I think knowing Linus is an investor force him to be out of the shell.... plus you need to be of certain skin to be CEO

@whatever1538 Жыл бұрын

I think I remember seeing him in an video on P-hub, that explains it.

@Henrix1998 Жыл бұрын

@@PrograError you need certain skin to be with Linus

@leonro Жыл бұрын

@@whatever1538 false, nobody remembers the guy on cornhub unless he's bald, muscular, a sinner, and starts out by just doing his job

@uwuclxdy Жыл бұрын

@@Henrix1998 we didnt forget xddd

@TheUnlocked Жыл бұрын

Linus walking into the board room and talking to the camera while other people are having discussions in the background was hilarious. I'm sure they were primed for it (e.g. "we're going to film here, act like you're talking about important stuff"), but still.

@Gatsu563 Жыл бұрын

I think that might be him acting in front of a green screen on this one, given the absence of reaction of EVERYONE in the room.

@jkahgdkjhafgsd Жыл бұрын

yeah obvious greenscreen lol, still funny to just show up and be filming though

@meqativ Жыл бұрын

it isn't a greenscreen bruh, look at the hair..

@theneonbop Жыл бұрын

@@Gatsu563 lol its a handheld camera, I doubt they have one of those expensive camera rigs you need to green screen a handheld camera

@AarPlays Жыл бұрын

@@Gatsu563 yes, this is exactly what priming DOES. "Hey we'll be walking in and filming, please don't react or look at the camera. It's distracting for the viewer"

@nicstroud 11 ай бұрын

12:25 That would be around one and a half minutes per station. Linus showing off his mathematical prowess. 😆

@muddystick Жыл бұрын

Seeing the DIY station really takes away the magic on a build your own laptop.

@BadMax02_VR Жыл бұрын

Framework is actually the first laptop brand where i am legit excited to see what comes next, either a LTT video or like the 16" modular keyboard laptop or what ever they come up with next. My next Laptop is definitly going to be a Framework when they finally get a dedicated gpu inside of them, also wouldnt it be funny if they tried making a laptop with desktop chips so that you can swap the cpus? :p (tho that would probably be really hard to implement well with long battery live, good and little powerconsuption and stuff like that)

@artdeell Жыл бұрын

To be fair, you probably can engineer a socket for the Intel's laptop BGA SoCs, but i doubt it will work well, and would probably be a huge complications in terms of the BIOS and such

@lucianobestia Жыл бұрын

There are professionals that would love desktop performance in a thick laptop. And they dont care about battery. It is for office and home use only, but portable.

@wuokawuoka Жыл бұрын

As an avid trackpoint user, I'd really love to see such a part. But in actual fact I'm looking forward to the GPU option(s) more. Including buying the 16" model first, then buy a GPU later.

@IsM1ku Жыл бұрын

A lot of people have cases where they need a portable computer but don't really have a need for a battery, for example kids living in multiple parents' houses (or just visiting grandma on the weekend), or perhaps bringing your own machine to work

@bocahdongo7769 Жыл бұрын

@@artdeell Better. There's already a LGA1200 laptop in 2023 Albeit it's really chonk gaming laptop, and the performance is just suck, and some questionable firmware, so never expect K processor there. But hey, it's 600 USD

@stanimirnikolov159 Жыл бұрын

It's cool they let Linus and his team film there, by default those assembly environments are tightly controlled and you have to follow set protocols to minimise contamination.

@Pixelplanet5 Жыл бұрын

this is not a clean room though so the risk is minimal that 2 people filming there make any difference.

@ScarfmonsterWR Жыл бұрын

It's a laptop they sell as a kit for customer to assemble. I don't think contamination is of any worry here.

@San4311 Жыл бұрын

@@ScarfmonsterWR Not all of them are kits. They sell them pre-built too, which Linus did clarify in the video. Only a portion of them get disassembled after QA.

@ialrakis5173 Жыл бұрын

Guess I'd do exactly the same. Being open to customers can only become an advantage.

@ScarfmonsterWR Жыл бұрын

@@San4311 I never said they don't sell assembled

@WilliamOwyong Жыл бұрын

It's great seeing Linus being like a kid in a candy store, with Nirav being the ever-watchful parent :)

@DctrGizmo Жыл бұрын

It’s really nice to see a CEO this chill as Linus! The tour was pretty cool and it seems like Framework cares a lot about quality. Let’s just hope they increase their production line soon after this.

@Volvith Жыл бұрын

Linus: "I'm gonna stop being a CEO." Everyone: _"Oh no!"_ Linus: "To do more cool stuff, and show you guys more cool stuff." Everyone and the Koolaid man: *_"Oh yeah!"_*

@trignite Жыл бұрын

This video was definetely filmed before the 2nd of june. it was when computex was on as shown at the start. So this video is not a result of linus stepping down.. he did that after.

@iletyoucallmestevesy Жыл бұрын

@@trignite Watch out everyone. Fun police are here

@FirestormX9 Жыл бұрын

@@iletyoucallmestevesy my alcohol drink turned to water soon as i read that comment

@iletyoucallmestevesy Жыл бұрын

@@FirestormX9 oh snap we got a reverse Jesus here too?! Everybody scatter!

@benblarney Жыл бұрын

@@FirestormX9lol they sure be killing the fun

@MikeMaragni Жыл бұрын

the framework ceo is always a top performer when he's on video lol

@alan_7390 Жыл бұрын

He's so chill

@FrameworkComputer Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@idk12147 Жыл бұрын

@@FrameworkComputeroh wow, it's the actual channel

@KevwePatani Жыл бұрын

@@FrameworkComputer Keep up the good work!

@troublebot Жыл бұрын

He's like completley immune to Linus' Linusness

@valervan Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that Framework is going to supply the local Taiwan market. It's infuriating how a tons of products are made here or have head quarters here, yet you are not able to buy them locally.... Or with high price that actually results in the lrofuct being cheaper to order from japanese Amazon and inprot it to Taiwan.

@Respectable_Username Жыл бұрын

Love hearing about how Framework's going! I've got my little Framework laptop sitting beside me here on the couch, still going strong. Love to see the business growing; gives me confidence it'll be around for long enough for me to upgrade parts!

@TheBorhork Жыл бұрын

If they did a scratch and dent sale as a blind box style, that would be cool. My laptops tend to get thrashed over time anyway, so getting one new for a few bucks off that might have a scratch, I'm on board with that.

@qpSubZeroqp Жыл бұрын

Yeah, same here

@PrograError Жыл бұрын

I wonder how the warranty would be for those...

@GSBarlev Жыл бұрын

@@PrograError If it's cosmetic imperfections only it really shouldn't matter. As production ramps up I also imagine that they'll end up with a stock of returns and factory refurbs to supplement the small volume of production-line oopsies.

@victorhugofranciscon7899 Жыл бұрын

@@PrograErrorwarranty for the internals about the external only the functional parts

@TheBorhork Жыл бұрын

@@PrograError I'm sure if it really came down to it, they can make a special version of the warranty that excludes cosmetic defects as a point. In theory, they could just take a picture of each unit along with its serial number before it ships so that way they know if it was damage from shipping, or pre-existing damage. Sure, it might take a little bit of extra time to process all of that, but if it means selling otherwise unsellable units, it could be worth it long-term.

@albuslee4831 Жыл бұрын

Just the publishing budget saved by partnering with Linus seems huge for Frameworks, ignoring any of the money Linus invested into Frameworks. Even though Frameworks laptops are good enough to be surfaced by itself without any help, it might have took much more time to be well known to the general public without the partnership with Linus.

@nakulbaliga Жыл бұрын

Yes, correct. Also I don't think Linus is only $224k deep into Frameworks, must've been atleast a mil by now. These laptop manufacturers even though small, need huge amounts upfront to get started and build custom lines for companies like Frameworks.

@cookiemon420 Жыл бұрын

@@nakulbaligaHe is one of the smallest investors

@Gkokkinakis2 Жыл бұрын

@@nakulbaligathey have other investors

@Padgriffin Жыл бұрын

Honestly I agree- Linus has made it clear that he himself has very little to do with Framework’s actual development, but we’re okay with that. Linus’s brand is a massive asset and being associated with him and having him as a public-facing partner is a massive boon.

@brucepreston3927 Жыл бұрын

@@Padgriffin Yeah I'm sure Linus promoting Framework on LTT was part of the deal...It's kind of a win-win for both of them...Linus gets videos out of it and if the videos help sell more laptops then he makes more money that way also...

@phenomanII Жыл бұрын

13:50 This makes me wish I was able to invest myself. This right here is the number one reason I love LTTstore - the perfect attitude of "what we're doing seems silly, we need to change that".

@carlsoll Жыл бұрын

Love how much you’ve been involved in so many Videos Linus 😄 I know there’s much more to it, since you changed your Business around, it’s great still learning and having your input :)

@Deja117 Жыл бұрын

It's a win win scenario here... Linus's channel can drive sales, and that will make his investment better. I do fully support what this company is doing though. About time this happened, a laptop is essentially a desktop with innovative cooling solutions for a small space after all, at least in my mind it is... And yes, of course power limiting etc is also a thing to consider.

@bionicgeekgrrl Жыл бұрын

To linus the company mission is more important than the money he's invested. Realistically he's a fairly small investor, but one with a pretty good reach which framework would be fools to ignore.

@corail53 11 ай бұрын

@@bionicgeekgrrl Linus is in it for the money, always has been.

@NoVisionGuy 11 ай бұрын

@@corail53 lol you make it sound like he shouldn't make money and give charity to framework instead

@matthewlozy1140 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised to see the DIY editions get disassembled at the end, but that totally makes sense for quality control. The more you think about it the more surprising it is as thr DIY edition is cheaper.

@GRBtutorials Жыл бұрын

Well, the prebuilt comes with a Windows license, and Microsoft products aren’t known for being affordable.

@mistapitts Жыл бұрын

The volume and quality of videos being uploaded recently is so fkin impressive... Good job getting it all to here, Linus! And the rest of the team ofcourse

@c2thew Жыл бұрын

Genuinely excited to see how framework grows as a company. It’s such a unique concept. It’s going to be tough to dethrone legacy manufacturers especially when apple is becoming more and more efficient in its m2 chip production but still ignores the gaming community

@ShannonMcCraryH Жыл бұрын

Can we just mention how the Framework CEO actually seems like he cares about the product and what he is doing?

@sirgavalot Жыл бұрын

I like straight man/funny man interplay between him and Linus in all the videos they're in together

@bionicgeekgrrl Жыл бұрын

I suspect that will be a rather large factor in linus investment decision. The mission of framework is one linus wants to ideally become the industry standard or as close as possible. So more ltt viewers buying framework laptops potentially could lead to other brands following their lead to try and leverage that appeal.

@JohnDoe-uq2qd Жыл бұрын

Most CEOs do, otherwise they wouldn't be very good at their job

@Dodger24 Жыл бұрын

That's usually how all company founders are. If the company ever changes CEO's, then that's usually when the company starts caring more about profits than products or customers

@Errcyco 11 ай бұрын

That’s a CEO you want, excited and talented.

@Torbox1 Жыл бұрын

The fact that they are modular I would also imagine helps a lot with reducing production waste. If a normal fully integrated MoBo with RAM and SSD failed because one RAM chip or the SSD was faulty I don't imagine most manufacturers would de-solder the faulty component to try and save the board, but with Framework they easily just swap out the faulty component and retest the system. Awesome!!

@wetflannel6343 Жыл бұрын

Can we just appreciate actually seeing inside the factory and how easy it would've been for then to say no without any other options

@meerkatairforce8182 Жыл бұрын

This is sick. I hope LTT gets to make more of this kind of content.

@TheMarshalOfLeague Жыл бұрын

I have so much trust in Linus's opinion it's kind of scary. His transparency is so transparent I forget that he has personal stake in this sometimes!

@GonzoPandora69420 Жыл бұрын

I wish there were more journalists like Linus in the modern era.

@ob9444 Жыл бұрын

@@GonzoPandora69420 we definitely need more media like Linus and friendlyjordies.

@Gpeagasus246 Жыл бұрын

@@ob9444 who's friendlyjordies? do they also cover tech?

@dabearsfan9 Жыл бұрын

@@Gpeagasus246 no he’s an Australian reporter who digs deep into the corruption of the government and stuff

@Gpeagasus246 Жыл бұрын

@@dabearsfan9 oh okay. very cool

@nehalmathew7510 Жыл бұрын

The systems with scratches and stuff should be categorised into groups/tiers depending on the severity of the damage. Then it can be sold for a discount depending on the tier.

@Applekendee Жыл бұрын

@@56kwith200pingve worked on a PCB manufacturing as an engineer, I gotta tell you they are throwing away millions of dollars because it has a visual defect such as scratch and dent. Either we are using ISO standard or most of the time customer requirements which is absurd. ISO should control these companies because it has no impact on the functionality of the board.

@guitarsolos89 Жыл бұрын

@@56kwith200pingBut you still need to follow the standard of selling mint condition products. If brand new is just whatever and products could have dents etc, the standard would just get worse and worse over time. I'm thankful quality controls are these strict.

@MuitoDaora Жыл бұрын

@@guitarsolos89 So Teslas then

@Daunlouded Жыл бұрын

That is literally what they said on the video.

@kidShibuya Жыл бұрын

Except that classifying and making extra sales channels all costs money, which pushes the prices of these 'cheaper' laptops back up.

@VladimirKostek Жыл бұрын

This was really cool to see, i just released a video today on the framework 16 so have been researching the company and it's refreshing to see how they operate!

@leftfootdown Жыл бұрын

Just watched ur vid, the 16 is damn cool

@TmanT321 Жыл бұрын

I think the respect that linus and nirav have for each other is definitely evident. Nirav knows where linus started, and knows where he is now. Linus knows where nirav is starting, and knows where he can go. I love this partnership, and I have been asking for years where my fully modular laptop and smartphone are? These two are going to pioneer that if they work together and work hard enough. Big ups to you both, and good luck.

@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын

Press F to pay respects for the editor who had to blur everything

@kryzentech Жыл бұрын

Dang. These laptops are absolutely insane! Their founder is such a nice guy; he actually knows every nook and cranny of his company! EDIT: Wow! I have more likes than subs :D

@FlyboyHelosim Жыл бұрын

Not really.

@matteventu Жыл бұрын

Well he's not just "a CEO" like HP's one or Lenovo's one, he's also the actual founder.

@coldbreezeproductions1148 Жыл бұрын

what is the appeal to this? just don't see it being profitable in the long run...

@Mutteron Жыл бұрын

@@FlyboyHelosim0:22 😅😮y😢

@Mutteron Жыл бұрын

52s🎉?2

@philsbbs Жыл бұрын

love the factory/supplier tours and look forward to more in the future.

@malyck Жыл бұрын

Ingenious video. Not only did they get an amazing video out of this. They probably bumped up the sales for the company, and their investment. I wouldn't be surprised if framework gave Linus some extra shares for this. I would 😂

@danielalexander8402 Жыл бұрын

As a factory worker videos like this help make me feel valid. Thank you for making content like this.

@corican Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service. O7

@anthonyblacker8471 Жыл бұрын

It's interesting to see when the machine is installing the screws on the keyboard (all 80 of them!! wow) it's similar to installing a head onto an engine block. You have to put in the bolts (screws same thing) in a specific order and tighten them to a very exact torque specification or it will do bad things like crack or leak or worse. That's pretty neat to see they actually consider all of these things in a silly thing you'd never expect, like a keyboard. Nice, and also that's a BIG part of where the comes from when you buy a newer generation of something, there's a LOT of Research and Development or R&D that goes into the initial design and pre manufacture. It's NOT cheap to start something new. Not even a little, ask Linus how much it cost him to release the Screwdriver that is friggin' awesome for any PC builder!!

@KolbPROD Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree with the comparison to cars, I'm an auto tech who grew up building PCs, and it's surprisingly translateable

@2nd3rd1st Жыл бұрын

And THAT'S why God invented the electric motor.

@SGCSmith Жыл бұрын

Framework is great. I bought two as gifts to family members, and might buy the 16" model once it comes out for myself. I'm glad to see they're growing and expanding.

@NewtHew Жыл бұрын

As someone who works in Manufacturing (specifically, in QA) this video was really interesting! I’d be surprised if the dot gauge Linus referred to was used outside of process, though I suppose that depends on whether the housing for the laptop was sub-supplied (as opposed to manufactured in-house). Edit: though I didn’t consider secondary damage from the manufacturing process, in which case in depth fault analysis wouldn’t be applicable

@KangoV Жыл бұрын

This is awesome. I designed and wrote an MES (Manufacturing Execution System) for a large US electronics manufacturer who is the leader in surround sound (guess who?). This brings back so many good memories. I could sit and watch the pick and place machines all day, but it was the Scorpion Flying Probe Tester that really blew my mind.

@kaukospots Жыл бұрын

No highs, no lows? I think my favorite assembly factory video is the one for the Steam controller, but it's great to see more of this kind of stuff up close

@allentchang Жыл бұрын

Did your MES system include manufacturing lot hold and release?

@gerthddyn Жыл бұрын

Framework is what makes me excited about mobile computing again. Them and how steam has approached the Steamdeck make me hope that the trends that Apple started with the Macbook Air aren't the only trajectory endpoint. I've been waiting for the Ryzen models to ship, but you showing us that you can replace the intel motherboard with a ryzen one really thrilled me.

@-Blue-_ 11 ай бұрын

Apple is garbage company now with there cult followers called "isheeps"

@ydna Жыл бұрын

very interesting - I did some contracts in automotive suppliers (subassembly stuff like this) and they use a similar process. the big difference is a wider variety of tasks and components that needed to be completed for the finished dashboards, so they had stations with different numbers of people that would balance it out and allow each subassy to consume the same amount of time. it was also broken up between people that did mechanical work and those that completed the electrical assy afterward. hopefully Framework reaches that level with the new expanded lines!

@JackJackDaBest Жыл бұрын

I love how you’re the Bill Nye of tech youtubers. I basically learned all my tech knowledge from you.

@Grumbo91 Жыл бұрын

That was so cool. It surprised me how manual and skilled it all is, I'm not exactly sure what I expected but probably something more akin to a car assembly line with robot arms and conveyor belts doing everything.

@Marcus-OK Жыл бұрын

I think these kinds of factory tours (and tours in general) would benefit extremely from a vague diagram / map of where you are and flow/direction from where you were. Just enough to give us location context without pissing off lawyers. Every time you guys do these things there's a "now we're here", "next we're here", and in this video "why is there still so much ahead of us in the assembly line?". It would help a lot in parsing wtf is going on.

@allentchang Жыл бұрын

It's too easy to piss off the lawyers, even for the most seemingly trivial or innocent thing.

@noahflare6825 Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they will have more lines and have better output, helping get this laptop into more consumers. I wish nothing but success for Framework

@typhon1861 Жыл бұрын

Yes, more fo this! This scratches the exact itch the "How It's Made" show did.

@Sir-Media Жыл бұрын

8:52 10/10 sticker placement

@playonstation Жыл бұрын

Imagine getting one of the five Laptop, not watching LTT and wondering: "Why are there ugly marks on my new device?"😂

@xMaverickFPS Жыл бұрын

I was literally just looking into these laptops and then I see this video. Amazing

@danzajaczkowski7783 Жыл бұрын

Such a great concept. Great job all.

@PyromancerRift Жыл бұрын

So many factory tours are poping on all the tech channels right now. It's so cool.

@Anna_Rae Жыл бұрын

This is genuinely such a cool video. I love it when you go straight to the source where all this cool tech is made 💖💖💖

@tom3f Жыл бұрын

10:41 So DIY products are cheaper to buy but more expensive to build because they asemble and disasemble it so more work must to be done?

@TheSonoranSniper 4 ай бұрын

logic

@tom3f 4 ай бұрын

@@TheSonoranSniper thats exact oposite of logic. They should either never assemble it or sell it for higher price if manufacturing cost is higher.

@TheSonoranSniper 4 ай бұрын

@@tom3f sir, please learn to recognize sarcasm

@reapernick2675 Ай бұрын

Because they are tested?

@Raums Жыл бұрын

I did not expect to eat my breakfast watching this ask the way through, great job folks, all the best for the future of what could be a game changing company!

@Skyfalcon12345 Жыл бұрын

All these factory tours are the successors of "How it's made" and I am HERE for it.

@SreenikethanI Жыл бұрын

oh the memories… does that show still air?

@kutter_ttl6786 Жыл бұрын

@@SreenikethanI They still air reruns but the last season was broadcast in 2019.

@SreenikethanI Жыл бұрын

@@kutter_ttl6786 hmm

@piersonm5574 Жыл бұрын

I love how framework is getting more advertising than most sponsors

@neonWHALE002 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for showing us this, very interesting. I find it interesting that the DIY laptops are cheaper even though they take slightly more work because they disassemble what's already been put together. I'm sure there's more to it than what was shown. Anyway, this is getting me excited for a laptop when I've saved up enough.

@peterfox6159 10 ай бұрын

Framework has such a great concept and product. Totally love it :) I am gonna get one, maybe next year or so. Also Nirav and the Framework team members are really great!

@drabberfrog Жыл бұрын

13:59 when he said "ok cool" my phone thought someone said ok google lol

@sevenofzach Жыл бұрын

Just think about how Linus will be like once we get videos (in about 1-3 months) from after he is actually done with being CEO. Gonna be a wild ride!

@SamVeale Жыл бұрын

Awesome video and being able to see how laptops are made is fascinating. Thanks Linus and team :)

@JonathanSteadman2003 Жыл бұрын

Love you guys so much. :)

@firecwby1999 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Linus, I already wanted a Framework laptop, but then you had to make me want one even more.

@stansz Жыл бұрын

11:17 ... big surprise they are running Win7. Thought would be XP lol

@AndrewYang1 Жыл бұрын

Yay, being able to order this from Taiwan is awesome!

@AdrianSalomo 4 ай бұрын

There seems to be soso chemistry between the two... Thanks a lot for the video!

@isaac10231 Жыл бұрын

12:41 had me rolling I love it when Linus makes the ceo a little uncomfortable 🤣

@edisonk Жыл бұрын

@4:46 typical Linus sitting on expensive tech supplies lol

@kajeralocse 7 ай бұрын

That sponsor introduction is ridiculously accurate for a single sentence sponsorship. It's so simple it blew my mind.

@ChrisHuan9 Жыл бұрын

This tours are awesome. Love to see more. Gosh do I miss Taiwan.

@BlueW01f Жыл бұрын

Fantastic to see this finally coming to fruition! Can't imagine how excited Linus is.

@KyleClements Жыл бұрын

I love the idea of an option for buying laptops that don't pass a visual inspection due to a cosmetic blemish but otherwise function to spec. Also, instant upvote to any video with Nirav.

@kitsunekaze93 Жыл бұрын

oh no, the case is scratched! *covers with sticker* fixed!

@Jehty_ Жыл бұрын

@@kitsunekaze93 *throw it in the backpack a few times and thereby add my own scratches.

@vinigt Ай бұрын

all laptops should be like frameworks... nice job guys

@KleinkMusic 11 ай бұрын

This is probably the most I've ever geeked out over a laptop in my life. I'm not in any sort of position to get a new laptop rn but when I am, Framework has my money.

@memberberries7669 Жыл бұрын

As a member of the custom mechanical keyboard community seeing the station for the sole purpose for checking legends on the keyboard is AMAZING to see and GMK needs to follow suit, I WAITED 2 YEARS FOR MY KEYCAPS AND GOT TWO F3 KEYS AND NO F2 SMH.

@dmr778810 Жыл бұрын

I'd have to agree with the one other comment I saw about the laptops that don't pass visual QA. One of my favorite things about them is that (I believe) they don't hurt cost too much, but consumers get a discount for those that "Would love to get one, but it's a bit too expensive." Not to mention, while I'd hate to be the one unknowingly getting a touched up chassis, if _I_ were to be the one touching it up, then I'd only have myself to blame if it didn't look bad.

@rexhua4833 Жыл бұрын

Framework Laptops are getting more interesting. Thank you for the video.

@ApothercyCold Жыл бұрын

I love videos like this. Do more.

@schitcrafter3641 Жыл бұрын

How is the DIY edition over 200€ cheaper, if it still needs to be assembled? It looks like the DIY version even adds more steps to the production process, so shouldn't it not be so much cheaper?

@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын

No Windows tax.

@adrianmalkovich7101 Жыл бұрын

If they had some pictures on their website of worst-case situations on what to expect from blemished devices, and sold them for like 5% off, I'd totally take that deal, because my cats are going to shove it off my desk sooner or later anyway. I don't need to see the issue my specific device has.

@_Makanko_ Жыл бұрын

A great company! Very happy to see they ship with a keyboard for my language. I hate how a lot of keyboard brands don't ship with my language and I would have to swap out keycaps and the like.

@boredcryptek5513 Жыл бұрын

I hope Framework hangs around for a long time. I just bought an HP Dev One late last year before learning about Framework. So it will he a few years before i get something new but when i do need something new i intend to get something from them.