Chernobyl Episode 2 - Please Remain Calm - Nuclear Engineer Reacts

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The Atomic Age

The Atomic Age

Күн бұрын

First off, wow. The response to part 1 was incredible. Thanks to everyone who made that possible!
Part 2! The disaster has happened and now the Soviet government is trying to figure out what happened. Secretary Gorbachev sends Minister Boris Shcherbina and a nuclear scientist of the Kurchatov Institute, Valeriy Legasov, to Chernobyl to investigate.
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References:
[1] "Advanced Test Reactor core, Idaho National Laboratory" (www.flickr.com/photos/3573427...) by Argonne National Laboratory (www.flickr.com/photos/argonne/) is licensed under CC BY 2.0 (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
[2] Dose Rate Chart www.informationisbeautiful.ne...
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:51 Corrections from Episode 1
05:13 Chernobyl Episode 2
05:17 Uranium Decay vs. Uranium Fission Products
05:58 Contaminated Firemen's Clothes
06:50 Beta Burns and Radiation Overview
08:28 I Don't Like the U-235 "Bullet" Analogy
11:54 Is Radiation Like a Virus?
13:43 "What Have They Done?"
14:32 Smoke Added for Dramatic Effect
15:32 What Is Lead Shielding?
17:25 How Much Lead Is Actually on that Truck?
18:06 Decontamination
19:01 "It's Not Three Roentgen..."
19:47 "Boron and sand"
21:16 Why Will the Fuel Melt?
23:44 Fuel Lava Bubbler Pool Thermal Explosion
24:54 Two to Four Megatons?
26:46 Pripyat: Frozen in Time
27:25 Bubbler Pool Divers / Dosimeters
28:39 Intense Radiation Fields and Electronics
29:29 Outro

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@rangerhalt
@rangerhalt 2 жыл бұрын
"you'd think that a hospital near a nuclear reactor would have a radiation specialty.... but if RBMK reactors don't explode then why have it?" Now you're getting into the soviet mindset!
@TheSteini22
@TheSteini22 2 жыл бұрын
Similar as with US sex ed mindset "why do they need to learn about it if they are not having it?"
@diamondfox1178
@diamondfox1178 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSteini22 *teenagers proceed to do it anyway*
@Kalevdraus
@Kalevdraus 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao that’s not unique to a societ state. “Why have extra PPE in a hospital if we dont need it?”
@rangerhalt
@rangerhalt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kalevdraus Thats literally what i just said...
@Kalevdraus
@Kalevdraus 2 жыл бұрын
@@rangerhalt you were taking about the rampant PPE shortages at the beginning of the pandemic, really?
@thunderatigervideo
@thunderatigervideo 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the story of General Pikalov, the man who drove the truck in to get the dosimeter reading. He had survived the WWII battles of Moscow and Leningrad, and he became an expert in cleaning up hazardous waste. He actually handled the decommissioning of some WWI German gas weapons and he helped clean up a few toxic spills in Cuba over the years. When he arrived at Chernobyl, he made his young driver get out and stay behind while he drove himself the rest of the way in. He got there the afternoon after the explosion and knew it was BAD, despite what they were saying. He is recorded as telling his driver, “You have yet to become a father.” His officers also organized two young soldiers to go with him in the truck, but he wouldn’t let them go, either. Pikalov was the man who mapped the more dangerous areas, found most of the ejected core fragments, helped get the robots, etc. His officers went on record as saying he slept two hours every night and worked the rest of the time. He went partially blind from radiation exposure by the time he was finished. This is a horrific tragedy for so many, but it also shows us how heroic some people can be.
@deedubya286
@deedubya286 2 жыл бұрын
That's enlightening! I had heard of the Soviet official who kicked his driver out and drove to the plant alone but I didn't know that it was this same guy.
@debbieaguilar5498
@debbieaguilar5498 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! What a hero! A human hero! And some say russians are cold...
@voodoochild1975az
@voodoochild1975az 2 жыл бұрын
We might have been on opposite sides of the cold war... but heroes are heroes... I'll toast Pikalov any time.
@enoughothis
@enoughothis 2 жыл бұрын
I have great respect for the men and women who have the unenviable job of trying to manage disasters like this. They know they're going to die and not in a good way but they still fight to stop the bleeding, quench the fires of Hell and save the planet from an invisible apocalypse.
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 2 жыл бұрын
@@voodoochild1975az you wanna know how badly put together an organization is, look at the volume of heroes it produces. The Soviets made a lot of heroes, usually in groups.
@Celeon999A
@Celeon999A 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the "Bullet" analogy : Remember that he's faced with explaining the situation to politicians of which most have absolutely no understanding of nuclear physics at all. But most of them are veterans of ww2. So that bullet analogy is actually a quite clever idea to make at least the rough concept of the physics and graveness of the situation ascertainable to them.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 2 жыл бұрын
I think I would have called the neutrons bullets, not the atoms themselves.
@manuela1986
@manuela1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@christosvoskresye I think he actualy does that later on the helicopter talking to Boris
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 2 жыл бұрын
@@christosvoskresye I think you’re right in that’s what he was trying to portray. The script writers obviously don’t understand the difference. Even then he’s way off. Fast neutrons travel at around 5% of the speed of light, which is pretty bloody fast, but definitely not the speed of light. Electrons emitted during fission can travel faster than 75% of c, which is what produces Cherenkov radiation, but I don’t think that’s what he’s referring to. The U-235 isn’t moving at all, as it’s locked in a crystal matrix, and is minimally radioactive (t 1/2 = 700 million years!). It’s what happens after the uranium has fissioned that makes things interesting. It’s hard to know, really, what the point of the analogy is, except to elicit a degree of wonder and awe. ☺️🙄
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 2 жыл бұрын
@@langdalepaul And fear. Honestly, the bit about "the speed of light" doesn't bother me so much -- certainly not compared to the "megatons" steam explosion or some of the other exaggerations -- because all it means to the average Joe is "much faster than you can imagine, with a lot of energy". Let's not overlook the fact that Legasov is portrayed as (1) almost out of his mind with fear and (2) thinking Shcherbina is a complete idiot. Both can contribute to a poor description, though, to be honest, this would not have been the first time he would have explained fission and its dangers to a layman, and he should have been able to give it by rote. I know I default to explanations that are too detailed, but maybe some people have the opposite tendency.
@TheTuubster
@TheTuubster 2 жыл бұрын
@@langdalepaul He said "nearly at the speed of light". You could argue how near. ;o)
@davidhigham1570
@davidhigham1570 2 жыл бұрын
Starts second video with "Good corrections". Basically "forget my ego, we're after truth". Instant subscribe.
@PV1230
@PV1230 2 жыл бұрын
yep. real professional.
@Minotaur-ey2lg
@Minotaur-ey2lg 2 жыл бұрын
Also shows the complexity of the Chernobyl incident. Imagine 100 different nuclear energy experts arguing about the best way to handle this.
@Brandolupa
@Brandolupa 2 жыл бұрын
My reaction too
@jeremyelford7926
@jeremyelford7926 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@aaronmoore6275
@aaronmoore6275 2 жыл бұрын
No ego in the dojo. I'm with it.
@johnmiller7682
@johnmiller7682 2 жыл бұрын
I think the issue you're missing with the "bullet" analogy, is that, no, he wouldn't have had more time. Remember, he was describing this to people who where already trying to downplay the entire incident. He was purposely trying to scare them into action.
@charlesandresen-reed1514
@charlesandresen-reed1514 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was the best way to convey to a group of largely military-mindset leaders what they were dealing with in terms they could easily comprehend, versus the best possible general description of the process.
@SweeturKraut
@SweeturKraut 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. I think that he’s erring on the side of dumbing down his language for the audience. I teach high school and often find myself finding creative ways to explain things in terms they’ll understand.
@dennisklomp2361
@dennisklomp2361 Жыл бұрын
Have been in similar situations but of course not this scale. You have this vast problem that has many facets to its dangers. across the table are people that are angry, losing money/status and wish the problem to not exist. Apart from that, they don't know you nor have the knowledge to comprehend the danger if this is not handled correctly. I have seen a lot, and I mean a lot of people try the scientific route. Here is the thing: An engineer knows the dangers of a BLEVE. A physicist understands the vast energy in a particle traveling at 5% of the speed of light. Mr. Companyman knows Jack shit. At that point, you need to dial it back. Seek an analogy or explanation that is simple. Generalise, simplify, cut corners. Instill fear and sense of danger. Use fireballs, bullets, bombs or disease, but get the point across. Details can be discussed later. If they're scared, they will start asking. If you lose them one time, if you slip into details and go too long, that's it, you're done. The bullet analogy is perfect for this function. Hell, in my career I have described polymerisation as making spaghetti from macaroni. I have used marbles for atoms, and explained a BLEVE by imagining someone spewing fire, but it's 60 meters long. Whatever helps.
@crptpyr
@crptpyr Жыл бұрын
I think the problem here is that he's also using the analogy (in the context of the drama) to inform the audience. People don't watch the show and go "oh, that's just how he's explaining it to military minded dudes", people watch it and just,,, straight up start parroting it as fact
@david598
@david598 7 ай бұрын
That's why this guy shouldn't quit his day job
@pauljohnson271
@pauljohnson271 2 жыл бұрын
“You’ve made lava.” At minute 23: I’ve worked with a ton of Russian guys; that reaction and “deadpan” incredulity is spot-on old Russian guy.
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
haha awesome
@wolfpaw2715
@wolfpaw2715 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAtomicAgeCM during this war with Ukraine they have talked about it exploding if the reactor isn’t kept cool or if gets hit with a bomb it will go nuclear
@wolfpaw2715
@wolfpaw2715 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAtomicAgeCM these rectors were made to be able to switch to be made as a bomb
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfpaw2715 care to reference any examples?
@Jazzmaster1992
@Jazzmaster1992 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed when he said that, I don't know if I was supposed to, but I did.
@LukaBelle
@LukaBelle 2 жыл бұрын
The podcast about this series actually talks about how the flashlights actually went out in real life. The screenwriter knew people may not believe it, but it happened.
@channelname3
@channelname3 2 жыл бұрын
But was it because of radiation, or was it something mundane such as the flashlights not being waterproof?
@theserpent4495
@theserpent4495 2 жыл бұрын
@@channelname3 i believe it was a waterproof issue though i could be wrong
@mrsmerily
@mrsmerily 2 жыл бұрын
@@theserpent4495 i think someone said in ukrainain documantary that the radioation trained the battaries of flashlight really quickly.
@younge75
@younge75 2 жыл бұрын
Or were the film makers trying to say Soviet products were just really, really shite!
@AlanCanon2222
@AlanCanon2222 2 жыл бұрын
Mazin (the writer) also said that, unlike in the continuation of the scene in the next episode, the divers completed their work in absolute darkness, but that if you do that on TV, you've got a radio play. So in the series, they had the divers break out (place and period correct) hand cranked flashlights to continue.
@patrickmeyer2802
@patrickmeyer2802 2 жыл бұрын
So I've listened to the podcast that accompanies each episode, and the thing that's clear to me is that they were more making an adaptation of the book Voices from Chernobyl, which is a collection of primary accounts of the accident. What this means is that there is a bunch of stuff in the show which isn't scientifically accurate, but which *is* what the people believed at the time. This includes the belief that being near radiation patients could be harmful, and the stuff about her baby in later episodes. Like, that nurse is smart, but not 100% well informed, which is true about just about every part played in the story. So, from a sense of being 100% scientifically accurate, it's not going to be that, but being accurate to how those people reacted to the situation and their rationale behind it, that's accurate.
@liciaguimaraes9704
@liciaguimaraes9704 2 күн бұрын
can you recommend some nice podcasts about it? Thanks!
@jboy55
@jboy55 2 жыл бұрын
The issue with the fuel getting into the bubbler tanks was a "real" concern. In that, at that time, the scientists were concerned about it. However, the movie mangles their concern into one about steam. The concern was that the fuel mixing with the water/steam would allow the water/steam to moderate the neutrons and the whole mass would reach criticality. This is definitely a 'worst case' scenario type of thinking, and its not clear how probable the scientists thought it might actually happen. Its very reminiscent of the early concerns with the Trinity test. There was some very early data that suggested the temperature required for nitrogen to fuse would be less than the temperature of a fission bomb, and that the energy released by nitrogen fusing would be enough to sustain further fusing. Thus, the trinity test could ignite the world's atmosphere. This concern is often written about in the history of the atomic bomb, however, it could be looked as 'silly', because we know now (and we knew well before the test), that the fusing temperature was orders of magnitude greater than the atomic bomb. We tell the story, because it gives us an indication of the fears that existed at the time. In this show, we see the fears of scientists with very little time on their hands, however the movie again did decide to explain the concern as a steam explosion and not one of a criticality. Source: www.theguardian.com/environment/2005/apr/25/energy.ukraine
@nightsofcandy
@nightsofcandy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to post this. It's really informative and very interesting
@279seb
@279seb 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comment dude. Thanks for explaining and providing a nice source.
@fatwe1992
@fatwe1992 2 жыл бұрын
Gods work my man
@andreww2098
@andreww2098 2 жыл бұрын
the water acting as a moderator is still a concern, the original sarcophagus they built over the reactor core leaked and water got into the lower levels where the majority of the melted fuel had ended up, this lead to random spikes in the radiation levels as the water restarted the fission reaction, this is why they have built a new cover to go over the old one
@jboy55
@jboy55 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreww2098 I had thought that the water moderation was more of a worst case scenario, it seems that it was more likely than that.
@KennyTheB
@KennyTheB 2 жыл бұрын
With regards to the sand thing: I work with graphite frequently, often using it as a spacing material to ceramitize Carbon-Silicon Carbide composites. This involves bringing it to over 1000 C (over 1800 F). You can get the stuff to ridiculous temperatures and it'll essentially remain unchanged provided you're doing so in either a vacuum or inerted environment with something like purging with argon and keeping it under positive pressure within a vessel throughout the process. (Feeding argon through it the entire time.) Once you introduce oxygen, even at really low levels, the graphite will actively degrade at elevated temperature. At 600C in the presence of low levels of oxygen, degradation becomes very apparent. In the case of Chernobyl, (according to a quick search), it looks like the core was between 2200C at the initial, down to 1600C 4 days later. At those temperatures and exposed to atmospheric O2 levels, it would have gone to a white ash that was probably starting to coat the area. (The heat from the core throwing it up in the air.) The best I can figure is that dumping the sand on it would have been an attempt to both smother it and to prevent the remaining contaminated ash from flying around. (I'd assume it would also weigh down some of the other fission products being released from the exposed core as well.) There'd still be superheated graphite and other fun things underneath, but as long as it isn't actively decomposing in O2 and the ash allowed to fly up in the atmosphere, it's one less thing to have to worry about at that moment. Doping it with boron was obviously to have something absorbing the radiation. (Better than nothing.)
@SixTough
@SixTough 2 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe you would ever get white ash from graphite, perhaps you mean silica?
@wiseauserious8750
@wiseauserious8750 2 жыл бұрын
How in hell do you become intelligent enough to do that kind of work? I can barely keep my truck running
@KennyTheB
@KennyTheB 2 жыл бұрын
@@SixTough No. It'll straight up go to ash. You'd need silica-forming materials to form silica. High-purity ISO-grade graphite isn't one of those. At lower to moderate O2 levels, it'll take on something of a weird spongy texture as well. First time I saw it occur at that level it was after a test firing of a new industrial kiln to +1000 C. I though someone either coated or wrapped one of my ISO-grade graphite mandrels with some other foreign material. Once I cleaned out off, it became apparent that wasn't the case. That layer had the texture of a spongy foam and ate into the graphite several millimeters. The whole thing ended up looking pitted and distorted, where before it was something that had been finely machined down to +/- 0.0015" of the initial CAD drawing. Turns out that kiln had a significant leak that was bleeding in atmosphere bringing the O2 level to several ones of percent. Lets say maybe 4% or 5%? In either case, for my purposes that's stupendously out of spec and it dens to be well below 1%. Never saw that level of degredation before that incident. Needless to say, that kiln retort doesn't seal worth a shit and we're still trying to fix it. There were some glaring fundamental design flaws with it. (It's large enough to fit a car into.) It's a shame KZfaq doesn't allow pictures to be posted. I had taken a lot of them as I was initially trying to figure out what coated all the graphite. Turns out it's just what graphite does at really high temperatures in low levels of O2.
@KennyTheB
@KennyTheB 2 жыл бұрын
@@wiseauserious8750 You join the Marine Corps Infantry, get out, go to school, graduate top of the class, work some shit peon jobs for a few years, and then one day get frustrated at your boss and start spamming your resume out there for things you feel unqualified for but know something about anyway. You then randomly get lucky and find yourself working in aerospace R&D working with bleeding edge experimental materials. Some would say it's the hard work over time thing, but the realist in me knows it's 80% dumb luck. You just have to find the right thing at the right time with the right place. Just don't stop looking. Throw enough shit at the wall and eventually some of it will stick. Also, don't try starting from the ground up. That'll get you nowhere fast. Aim for the middle or higher. 😅
@SixTough
@SixTough 2 жыл бұрын
@@KennyTheB I believe you, but I have never seen graphite forming a white byproduct, now I'm curious what that is
@Celeon999A
@Celeon999A 2 жыл бұрын
The mission of three "divers" into the basement levels of the reactor was largely based on wrong assumptions and missing information. For instance the whole reason why they were equipped with diving gear in the first place was the estimated total amount of water present in the basement. Unknown to Sherbina and Legasov, the firefighters had already begun with pumping water out of the basement during their initial firefighting efforts. In the chaos of the aftermath with the firefighters all being hospitalized, this important piece of information was not communicated to the plants staff or authorities. Hence the divers encountered only knee-high water levels in the basement instead of it being totally flooded. This made things a lot easier to them than expected. One of them, former engineer Oleksiy Ananenko, confirmed in an interview that he was actually not a volunteer but was more or less ordered to go down there. He did it not because of some herioc intentions but because he considered it a natural part of his job. While they were told it was to be dangerous, they were not told that it was considered a suicide mission. Nobody told them about the true extend of the danger they were heading into, and consequently Ananenko was not even afraid. Pointing to the scenes in Chernobyl , he said that they had diving suits but no oxygen as shown in the series and they were progessing through the basement at a lot faster pace than shown. They had two dosimeters with them but not the time to spent much attention on them. He did not even remember what the readings were.
@Goldfire-tt3dv
@Goldfire-tt3dv 2 жыл бұрын
All three simply went because they were on duty. Baranov was the shift supervisor, his only job was to light the way but his light went out. Ananenko was one of the few people who knew his way around the basement due to being part of the maintenance team, and according to him, they walked on a pipe to avoid actually having to go into the water (which was indeed only knee-high). Bezpalov came along because Ananenko had asked for him to provide assistance. Ananenko also said the readings on the dosimeters weren't bad enough to be memorable. Baranov died in 2005 from a heart attack that was supposedly unrelated to his exposure to radiation, while Ananenko and Bezpalov are still alive as of this writing and were awarded medals by then Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko in 2018. To this day, Ananenko denies the sensation surrounding his actions, insisting that he merely did his duty.
@JustAGooseman
@JustAGooseman 2 жыл бұрын
The section at 14:15 with the smoke plumage was not "added for dramatic effect". When the reactor hall exploded, it lit a huge portion of the tar roof on fire as well as the thousands of pounds of other flammable items like wire shrouds, insulation materials in the walls, wood interior sections, etc. which caused a giant plume of smoke.
@shmegeh
@shmegeh 2 жыл бұрын
About the "don't touch them, you'll get sick" thing. It was a real misconception at the time that people who had been irradiated were dangerous to be around. We know now that individuals with radiation poisoning are not dangerous to others, but back then there was a great deal of misinformation coupled with fear and lack of knowledge on the subject.
@SYNtemp
@SYNtemp 2 жыл бұрын
Except when those irradiated people carry/can still carry radioactive particles on their skin/clothes, THEN touching them could really be harmfull...
@HorstEwald
@HorstEwald 2 жыл бұрын
Like survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were avoided by others.
@bloodymarvelous4790
@bloodymarvelous4790 2 жыл бұрын
For Vasily Ignatenko, the fireman, he had been exposed to radioactive smoke and probably ingested radioactive material through his lungs and soft tissue membranes. He could still be dangerous even after washing.
@esteban20969564
@esteban20969564 2 жыл бұрын
it wasn't for that, it was the fact that they all contaminated with their clothes and hair full of radioactive ashes
@TWFydGlu
@TWFydGlu 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Which is why he was buried in a zink (I think it was) coffin, as he was still radioactive.
@Tom55data
@Tom55data 2 жыл бұрын
20:20 A graphite fire is usually defined like a class D fire - a metal fire. Metal fires require sand ("dry powder") to smother and prevent access by oxygen and to some degree cool - but you still have heat from any nuclear reaction.
@Rob_Moilanen
@Rob_Moilanen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and dropping bags of boron into the fire is for "killing" any further "reactions" from the core because boron is a neutron absorber or a "poison" to any nuclear reaction.
@TheSDB13
@TheSDB13 2 жыл бұрын
The General that drove the truck is Vladimir Pikalov, veteran of the battles of Moscow, Stalingrad, and Kursk. At the time of Chernobyl he had been in charge of the Soviet nuclear and chemical protection troops for 18 years. He was awarded a hero of the Soviet Union for his role in the containment. He died in 2003.
@Goldfire-tt3dv
@Goldfire-tt3dv 2 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, in reality, Pikalov was the first to arrive on the scene, before anyone else (even the chemical troops), and he took it upon himself to take a first reading of the radiation levels outside the plant, accompanied by a soldier who volunteered as his driver inside an armored military vehicle. By the time the chemical troops finally arrived, he had already estimated the spread of the radioactive cloud and prepared an initial plan of immediate operations. At the time, there were few actual scientific protocols for how to deal with major incidents involving radiaoctive contamination, so a lot of the procedures used during the cleanup were conceived under Pikalov's supervision. Basically, it was Pikalov who was in charge of the cleanup, rather than Legasov and Shcherbina as shown in the show. As far as I can tell, that man is a genuine legend, and it's a shame he gets mostly sidelined in the show aside from his standout "Then I'll do it myself" moment.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goldfire-tt3dv That standout moment, though, is really a STANDOUT moment. It's just what Gen. Milley would ... I can't even finish that sentence!
@Tekisasubakani
@Tekisasubakani 2 жыл бұрын
@@christosvoskresye And that moment pushes people to learn more about him. I know I spent a few hours looking into many of those depicted in the show.
@xanmontes8715
@xanmontes8715 9 ай бұрын
No human is purely good. But this? This does make me question that statement.
@shmegeh
@shmegeh 2 жыл бұрын
I highly, highly recommend listening to the podcasts that accompany each episode. The screenwriter provides a lot of insight into the choices made in the show that touch on several of your points. Each podcast episode acts as an excellent companion to listen to after watching its respective counterpart.
@marianmarkovic5881
@marianmarkovic5881 2 жыл бұрын
True, podcast providing gread insight into things that they had to change for tv series format...
@AsperTheGhost
@AsperTheGhost 2 жыл бұрын
@@gsesquire3441 Of course what you say is 100% true, but if what Marián says is true (I haven't listened to the podcasts) then it's admirable that the screenwriters who adapted this real event are being transparent with what they changed. As much as everyone "knows" movies are adapted/embellished etc, some people get the lines blurred and will often believe a great deal of what they see portrayed in cinema. The fact that the creators go on record saying "listen, we did our best to make it entertaining but here's what actually happened" it's a testament to their honesty and commitment to portraying the events. Beyond just lining their pockets with a marketable name and tragic event, they genuinely want to spread information. I do agree with you in a sense, though. People should do their own research and not just believe what they see. And people should not wildly complain when movies/TV change any small detail of reality for a good story.
@JL-ey3gb
@JL-ey3gb 2 жыл бұрын
You have a really honest and non-degrading way of making me feel like an idiot. I appreciate that, it's the little things. Subbed
@taiwandxt6493
@taiwandxt6493 2 жыл бұрын
You have to remember that he specializes and went to school for this sort of thing. No one human can know everything. Here he makes you feel like an idiot because he's in his element with his knowledge, but he might just be as ignorant with other things as you are with Nuclear Physics.
@martin1234512345
@martin1234512345 2 жыл бұрын
Remember, 15000 roentgens is the max reading on that particular meter. The true number was even higher then that.
@EinherjarLucian
@EinherjarLucian 2 ай бұрын
15,000 roentgen[/hr], not great but not terrible.
@ryanmcgarry-winne5015
@ryanmcgarry-winne5015 2 жыл бұрын
About the firefighters gear. You USED to be able to essentially just go into the basement of the hospital, and see them inside the one room, but it’s since been walled-off with sand/concrete to protect people
@xanmontes8715
@xanmontes8715 9 ай бұрын
I started reading your comment and thought "oh they removed them" but of course not... I was wrong. It was still risky.
@Dovahkiin106
@Dovahkiin106 3 ай бұрын
iirc, it wasn't to protect the people but rather the gear itself, because people were stealing them as souvenirs... which obviously leads to issues.
@henrya3530
@henrya3530 2 жыл бұрын
At 29 minutes: Yup, intense radiation can cause batteries to fail. This was one of the main reasons the robots brought in to clear debris from the roof of Reactors 3 and 4 failed. The problem then became that by the time the batteries died the robots were so radioactive that no-one wanted to change their batteries! They didn't just try a couple of robots. Approximately 60 were used, mostly built in the Soviet Union. It was found that the more advanced the design of the robot the more likely its electronics would be adversely affected by the intense radiation.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
would fuel cells fail from radiation to?
@ganthore
@ganthore 2 жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 Yes. Fuel Cells would be equally affected. The catalyst membrane of most fuel cells would be greatly affected by intense radiation not to mention the polymer and electrolyte used in 1986.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
@@ganthore no no no silly I was saying they should have used fuel cells to power the pumps during a power failure till the diesels could power up instead of the stupid spinning down generator idea so as to avoid an explosion and meltdown like Chernobyl
@skipperg4436
@skipperg4436 Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 in modern reactors we just have a big - really big - tank of water kinda above the reactor that have valves that will automatically open in case of power out event (you can say that there is a spring that will open it that is normally suppressed by electromagnet which will of course no longer be there if power goes out) and will be cooling the reactor for several days. Also in case of overheating modern reactors will just shut down due to physics.
@alexc4300
@alexc4300 7 ай бұрын
@@skipperg4436Western designs are intended to fail safe, but Soviet design wasn’t so concerned with safety, plus any incidents were State secrets so no opportunity to learn from lower grade near misses.
@plaguepandemic5651
@plaguepandemic5651 2 жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere that even the 15,000 roentgen measurement wasn't accurate, the dosimeter they used for THAT measurement maxed out at 15,000 similar to how the other one maxed out at 3 roentgen. So in truth the measurement could have been even higher
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well TBH 15K Roentgen is already way above anything youd expect to measure that i don't know if there even existed a device that could measure more.
@plaguepandemic5651
@plaguepandemic5651 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielLopez-up6os I'm sure there is nowadays, but back in 1980s Soviet Ukraine, probably not. Still, scary to think that even what they thought was the actual dose may have still even been lowballing it.
@noxlupi1
@noxlupi1 2 жыл бұрын
From later tests and estimates from contamination, it has been calculated to have been in the ball park of 20.000+ roentgen.
@DanielLopez-up6os
@DanielLopez-up6os 2 жыл бұрын
@@noxlupi1 Yikes.
@7thBatallion
@7thBatallion 2 жыл бұрын
20,000+ roentgen? Fucking Christ
@ryanmorley8211
@ryanmorley8211 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that Legasov didn't get more credit for what he did. I've seen many documentaries and did some research and the guy is barely mentioned. An unsung hero, he deserves more appreciation.
@nmdc93
@nmdc93 Жыл бұрын
Did you not watch the show? It explains why he is barely mentioned if at all
@claretheworm
@claretheworm 10 ай бұрын
That's what censorship does. Very infuriating
@CDN296
@CDN296 3 ай бұрын
He was humiliated and his career was ruined by the Soviet government for speaking out . That's why there's very little record of him
@davidfusco6600
@davidfusco6600 2 жыл бұрын
My co worker lived “near” Chernobyl, she was an evacuee. She is approximately my age, 60ish. She has 2 children, I think one born in Ukraine, the other in the US. I know that she does not want to talk about Chernobyl, she alway say that she’s had a lifetime worth of it, she’s done, and she’ll politely change the subject. She’s a very nice person, so everyone respects her wishes.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
you made Lava!
@cobaltsky6872
@cobaltsky6872 2 жыл бұрын
Something I personally find interesting is that yes, while the science might not be 100% valid, especially in the meeting scene, we must remember that they are not just saying things for the sake of science, they are trying to convince the board of soviet directors to give them the resources and funds to contain the accident. We already know they can be cheap and not take these things seriously, so providing a worst-case or even inflated estimate for the explosion and effect of it might be something they intentionally did to get the resources to contain the disaster. Or at least that is how I like to explain it in my head-cannon of the show.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
A steam explosion might have occurred if the lava entered the water tanks would have maybe been enough to pop the tank but 2 to 4 megatons nope not a chance cause no steam explosion has been that big ever and those are with sealed steam boilers or tanks not one that breached by lava entering the tank to heat the water in the first place
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 11 ай бұрын
​@@raven4k998Not exactly, at the time it was believed that there would be a thermal explosion The issue here is that people seem to forget or ignore that the tv show is not a documentary It's telling you how the people at the time thought of these things
@XShifty0311X
@XShifty0311X 2 жыл бұрын
The bullet comment is also to shock the committee into action, they were dismissive about the situation and he had to get them to move.
@cuba_pete7750
@cuba_pete7750 2 жыл бұрын
I would agree. I think that his analogy of the bullets was oversimplified because he most likely was not going to get a lot of time to explain and using a tangible dangerous object would drive this point home faster than going into the science behind how the affect of radiation works - especially to the military personnel that were at this meeting that may have some influence over Gorbachev.
@politedog4959
@politedog4959 2 жыл бұрын
To get them to understand you gotta talk their talk
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
@@politedog4959 yeah simplifying the words so they can wrap there heads around what is going on
@thomasc8482
@thomasc8482 Жыл бұрын
yeah, I think this might also be the explanation for the '3 megaton bomb' analogy, its something the committee understands and thus they'll hopefully get the seriousness of it
@robinhood5627
@robinhood5627 2 жыл бұрын
20:30 The sand is not to "cool" the mass, it is to smother the mass and deny it oxygen to burn with. The graphite is very similar to coal and burns with air in the same way. By covering the graphite with sand it will act like a fire blanket and smother the flames out.
@TheTuubster
@TheTuubster 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I thought the same. The heat will melt the sand to glass and create a coating cutting it off from air.
@drake565
@drake565 2 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the fire in the core area was burning hot enough that the water they were trying to put it out with was more or less evaporating before it even got to the fire, hence them turning to sand since even if the sand melted on contact it would still smother the flame. I could be wrong.
@eaglevision993
@eaglevision993 2 жыл бұрын
Well there is a tiny bit of cooling. Any melting consumes energy, so melting sand in fact creates cooling to some degree. Aside from that, the sand acts like a filter to reduce and bond radioactive isotopes from escaping.
@rolandlee6898
@rolandlee6898 2 жыл бұрын
Not just the flames, but to smother the whole thing to it stops spreading radioactive dust and shit around. In terms of heat, the sand will actually increase the heat of the molten reactor core as sand is an excellent insulator.
@robinhood5627
@robinhood5627 2 жыл бұрын
@@rolandlee6898 Thank you! this is exactly correct, and in terms of heat...hence the lava! nothing to do with cooling the fire at all.
@rnkelly36
@rnkelly36 2 жыл бұрын
We in the West expect that the females working in hospitals in Soviet controlled areas were nurses. In fact it was very common in the USSR for women to be doctors and there were a number of male nurses. I am not sure how they were in this show but I was expecting that the women in the hospital were mostly doctors. There was an odd relationship between doctor and nurse different from the west but they tended to have many more female doctors at that time than we had in the west.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 2 жыл бұрын
75 % soviet docter is women in 1990
@johnmccarron7066
@johnmccarron7066 2 жыл бұрын
They were portrayed as doctors; the woman who has the most prominent interactions with the older male doctor is a doctor herself. The screenwriter used this as a way to portray the clash between older 'country medicine' pre-Soviet and rural doctors and the more modern, educated doctors.
@mrsmerily
@mrsmerily 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmccarron7066 yeah one female doctor who was there somewhere said that she had clash with older male doctor who had no idea what he was dealing with, She did not either but she realized they were not burns and it was radiation.
@budgreen4x4
@budgreen4x4 2 жыл бұрын
The men were at war... Hence women mainly filling those roles
@LMarti13
@LMarti13 2 жыл бұрын
​@@budgreen4x4 This is your cognitive dissonance reaching for an explanation because you can't comprehend that the soviet union was more equal than the west in most areas. Only 2% of the population was in active military service when Chernobyl occurred, the U.S. was at 1%, so get out with your bullshit.
@jboy55
@jboy55 2 жыл бұрын
In a podcast about the series, Craig Mazin said that the divers flashlights did fail, and they did not have backups. The divers knew the building well enough to find the gate, however it may have been a simpler layout than described in the film. Criag added the backup flashlights, because it would have been too difficult to film them finding the gate in complete darkness.
@mrspidey80
@mrspidey80 2 жыл бұрын
About the thermal steam explosion: It doesn't really matter wether this would have happened or not. The point is, the scientists back then believed it would happen, so it is valid to include it in the show.
@Feargal011
@Feargal011 2 жыл бұрын
The miners shown in Ep 3 did excavate under the floor of the building to drain out water (though none were naked!). The concern/fear of a melt down through the concrete base of the power station was very real, even if the 'elephant foot' of corium did not melt through in reality.
@Kraniumbrud
@Kraniumbrud 11 ай бұрын
it builds irrational fear, that will hamper nuclear scientists in developing clean solutions to our energy crisis
@tedtorqueoholic3628
@tedtorqueoholic3628 2 жыл бұрын
At 11:57 when Lyudmilla was told to "Get away from them" it was because the man and the baby were actually contaminated (not just radiated). The man and the baby went to watch the fire from the bridge (see Episode one). They were covered with radioactive ashes the other kids watching the fire actually played with the ashes as if it was snow. The tour guide at Cherynobyl told me that everyone who went to watch the fire from the bridge died soon after the exposure. They call it the Bridge of Death.
@kysz1
@kysz1 2 жыл бұрын
They were contaminated on the outside, but you can just wash that. I assume doctors at the hospital wouldn't let them just stand there in their contaminated clothes - they would give them anything else to wear and told them to wash themselves immediately. The only way they would still be contaminaded after that is if they breathed contaminated particles (which is possible, but I'm guessing it would only be really dangerous to them, but not to other people). BTW - the bridge of death is most likely a myth - some teenager on a bike went there to watch the next morning - he got sick, but recovered after hospitalization. Mostly people just slept and didn't lern about the accident until morning. Bridge was dangerous and 2 police cars were placed there to stop people from walking there, but you were allowed to drive a car through there There are a lot of things in the show that are fiction. For example - Ananenko (one of the three divers) said that it was just his shift and his job. He knew where the valves were. He did not volunteer (he said he would get fired if he didn't go) and did not receive any applause after returning. It was just a task to do on his job
@lionhead123
@lionhead123 2 жыл бұрын
@@kysz1 they probably didn't even know they were contaminated. how would they? They still hardly knew what was going on.
@jasonrichardson1999
@jasonrichardson1999 2 жыл бұрын
The "bridge of death" wasn't actually deadly because most people was asleep and even a loud explosion didn't wake them up
@Goldfire-tt3dv
@Goldfire-tt3dv 2 жыл бұрын
This portrayal in the show appears to be based on an urban legend. From what I understand, hardly anyone, if at all, was actually standing on the railway bridge that night. Likewise, two fishermen who were fishing in the lake and witnessed the explosion firsthand contracted a severe dose of radiation, survived as well.
@mrsmerily
@mrsmerily 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goldfire-tt3dv yeah, also it is more the quess.... that there might have some people somewhere out at that time. No evidence that they gathered on that bridge.
@timberbytucker5601
@timberbytucker5601 2 жыл бұрын
My boss’ father-in-law was a liquidator on the roof. He is still alive today. Somewhat surprised.
@stephenpointon
@stephenpointon 2 жыл бұрын
I was an engineer at Rolls Royce and knew quite a few engineers in the nuclear division (Rolls Royce & associates.) At the time of the accident it was believed that there may have been deuterium enriched heavy water stored under the reactor . One of the purposes of the reactor complex was to provide power for heavy water production for the soviet H-bomb program. There was a theory that if the heavy water and the super heated remains of the core were to come into contact that you could have a possible "raw thermonuclear event ." this would have produced the 1-2 megaton blast that could have spread the radioactive contamination over the majority of the soviet union and Europe. The chances of this happening was considered to be very slight by western engineers.
@nolimitsamputee5219
@nolimitsamputee5219 2 жыл бұрын
I show the series to my environmental science class for high school seniors. I used to show a documentary but the series does a great job of showing the human dimension and that really is what resonates with students since they can relate. Your commentary helps me better understand some of the nuclear science behind it and relay that to my students. My area is more biology so your expertise has been awesome to learn from.
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, that's great to hear.
@andrewwash8005
@andrewwash8005 2 жыл бұрын
I was part of an NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) detection and decontamination team. We still do the washdown and then stirp down by degrees with the mask being the last item removed. As I said all while being washed down.
@kecskesadam
@kecskesadam 2 жыл бұрын
Slight correction: You can't go down to the hospital basement anymore. It got burried recently, preventing people from entering.
@wolfidessdragondol
@wolfidessdragondol 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense cause I was thinking "wouldn't people try to take 'souvenirs' and because the clothes were still radioactive, why is it open to public?"
@Extreme96PL
@Extreme96PL Жыл бұрын
@@wolfidessdragondol some of clothes were already taken if you watch videos on YT and pay attention you can see how clothes change places where they are through years and there is at least one helemt less after some time.
@Extreme96PL
@Extreme96PL Жыл бұрын
I heard there is new entry through one of windows.
@budgreen4x4
@budgreen4x4 Жыл бұрын
Not buried per se but they walked off the entrance to the rooms with concrete block
@theavocado6061
@theavocado6061 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best series I’ve seen in a long time. A true horror story. The helicopter scene was one of my favorites.
@dunning-kruger551
@dunning-kruger551 2 жыл бұрын
A helicopter did crash but not in the way it did in the series. The rotors clipped a cable.
@teamrohver
@teamrohver 2 жыл бұрын
And six months after the actual incident
@GoranLepen
@GoranLepen Жыл бұрын
@@teamrohver Correct, there were no cables/cranes in April/May, they came later, when the construction of the sarcophagus started.
@stuarthancock571
@stuarthancock571 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest fear all these characters had was cancer from radiation. So I love the paradox of nearly every character being a chain smoker in this mini series. But then we see smokers in real life do the same, complain about the danger of something while inhaling.
@testname2166
@testname2166 2 жыл бұрын
For these people, how much of a bloody difference is it gonna make?
@mikehurt3290
@mikehurt3290 Жыл бұрын
Also knowing you going to die in a couple years anyway from radiation will make you into a chain smoker if you weren't already one
@mistry6292
@mistry6292 Жыл бұрын
Wow you're like the biggest loser I've ever seen in a comment section
@cmillerg6306
@cmillerg6306 7 ай бұрын
Don't you think a large radiation dose does much stronger and faster damage to the body? I'd say that the time-dose chart that is often shown shows that
@xxel5374
@xxel5374 2 жыл бұрын
So, as far as the explosion size (looking at 25:00 ish), I think the biggest thing is that if you do a back of the envelope orders of magnitude energy relation, and remember that the water could cause the surface of the molten corium to experience an acceleration in the nuclear reaction as well as the thermal steam explosion, you can get some big numbers. I agree that the presentation of a steam explosion of a couple megatons is fairly ludicrous, but dropping hot corium into a large reservoir of water has the potential to release a HUGE amount of energy, way more than a nuclear bomb, which doesn't contain nearly as much fissile material and what fissile material is present loses criticality as it blows itself apart, meaning you don't burn it all. I think expecting a nuclear detonation from a cave of water is not wholly realistic, but having a large steam explosion in the kiloton range and then a huge nuclear release of energy could cause all manner of problems, so much it would be almost impossible to estimate without detailed maps of the structures and areas to look at pressure waves and melting/burning that would happen in the seconds, minutes, and hours after such an event. tl;dr: as a steam explosion, ur initial reaction that thats waaaay too big is totally reasonable, but considering all of the physics going on, having a number in the megaton range to report to superiors is not as ridiculous as it initially seems. To be 100% real, the fact that corium falling into a pool of water could be comparable to a hydrogen bomb shows exactly how dire this situation really was, and heightens my understanding of the threat level. Ultimately, I think the soviet scientists who constructed the number during the crisis were fairly justified, especially if you are trying to communicate to those who are not literate in the physics of whats involved, because it would have been a potentially planet altering catastrophe in so many different ways had they been unable to stop it. And the show portraying the recommendation accurately speaks as a credit to the research and diligence of the show. Great video, love to hear your insight from one who is involved in this stuff!
@andysommerlot5123
@andysommerlot5123 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still full of skepticism when they say 2 to 4 MEGA-ton... THE Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were (at highest estimates, plus fudge factor) 40 KILO-ton each... Those bombs were engineered for that yield, where as a melted down Chernobyl core and following steam explosion wasn't. Am I missing something?
@nilnull5457
@nilnull5457 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Probably back of the envelope calculations bring too many unrealistic assumptions here. A local excursion would effectively reduce the density, hence the effective capturing power of coreum around it. Also, in nukes, you require a large-ish dose of initiating neutrons just when the assembly is at a supercritical state, along with neutron reflectors. So basically, do anything with any kind of nuclear reactors, and chances are that they won't go nuclear on you. Sure, H2O could act as a neutron reflector, but even it would locally heat up, rarify and allow more neutrons to go unreflected. Also, the coreum itself has a lot of fission products that could absorb neutrons and the enrichment is too low to begin with, with most of it being U-238, FPs, minor actinides, sand/concrete glass, and other stuff. But the steam explosion that may ensue could be devastating, with much more radionuclides being ejected far and high in the air, with a power of several tonnes of TNT. People didn't have as much info that we have now, back in Chernobyl accident days in USSR, so maybe speaking with hindsight is a bit of cheating:).
@cow_tools_
@cow_tools_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@nilnull5457 Just the fact that that uranium isn't even enriched to western reactor standard, let alone weapons-grade, is sufficient to rule than 2 MT figure total baloney. The prospect of the whole power plant blowing up, ejecting all the material, and digging a massive hole, was already terrifying enough for the show writers to convey. And I have never heard evidence that the 2 MT figure was presented to the politburo. Some people watching the show are going to go away thinking Chernobyl almost blew up in an Ivy-Mike level explosion...
@kilouco
@kilouco 2 жыл бұрын
Total git here, just wanted to bring another factor to be considered. Wouldn't the "megatons" scale be feasible if you consider that a nuclear bomb releases all of its energy in less than a millisecond, while the reactor meltdown was releasing energy constantly for hours and days? As for the radiation, it is said that, at least at the first few days, it released about the same radiation as an Hiroshima bomb every two hours or so. Isn't radiation "energy" per se? Remember that fission is still going inside reactor 4 to this day.
@GodlikeAu
@GodlikeAu Жыл бұрын
At very large energy inputs water can further ionized to hydrogen and oxygen. The steam explosion is big, but if its ionized to the gasses, and its above the flash point, you also the hydrogen explosion, and that has much more energy. Dunno how much water would need to ionized to hit a megaton of TNT but would be in the order of a megaton of water.
@NyanCatHerder
@NyanCatHerder 2 жыл бұрын
Something that might be worth pointing out, too. Just after 19:00 when Pikalov says that the radiation dose near the reactor is 15,000 Roentgen rather than 3.6, he's still wrong. Even though that's high enough to be well off of REMM's chart, it just reflects the highest value that the dosimeter he used was capable of measuring. No dosimeter they'd used so far was capable of actually obtaining an accurate reading, since there aren't too many situations where that kind of measurement would be needed. Also, the "several megaton explosion" bit seems to be based off of an assertion by Vassili Nesterenko, a physicist who played a role in the disaster response. It's not immediately clear how he came up with the numbers involved. He may have gotten that yield based on the idea of all the corium falling into the water at once, which would have been essentially impossible, or he may have even been considering that a second criticality event might occur. That would have definitely been stretching the bounds of plausibility to their breaking point. Either way, the idea of a steam explosion that size occurring at Chernobyl wasn't realistic, but it did apparently come up at least in retrospect. The more likely possibility of a modest explosion was still a real threat and, in order to make the danger more tangible, I can see someone throwing out an implausible worst case scenario in a meeting. Then, of course, dialing it down to, "Even if that doesn't happen, [realistic amount of material] reaching the water would cause [realistic terrible thing]".
@plaguepandemic5651
@plaguepandemic5651 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly any sized explosion happening inside a nuclear reactor that's melting down is bad. But similar to the bullet analogy, the size of a possible explosion may have been exaggerated as well for the benefit of the politicians.
@marcushankins8171
@marcushankins8171 2 жыл бұрын
@@plaguepandemic5651 right and let's not forget. The soviet union is trying so hard to deny anything went wrong, and is going wrong. The scientists are trying to convey urgency. Overestimating the potential explosion would be to get their asses in gear essentially. But any explosion especially one near other operating reactors is cause for concern, I'm sure their worst case scenario is what happens if something unforseen happens and causes the other reactors to go off as well.
@andyb1653
@andyb1653 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcushankins8171 That's it, exactly. The size of any potential explosion was almost immaterial, or beside-the-point. The REAL fear was damage to the other 3 reactors, which even a (relatively) small explosion in the plant's basement could have easily accomplished.
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac 2 жыл бұрын
I'm bad at math, so maybe one of you can run the numbers of my idea(s). But what popped into my head as a plausible option, is that they simply took the max volume of water that could be down there, and went with a scenario in which **all** of that water got vaporized _instantaneously_ (in an enclosed/pressurized space). Alternatively, maybe they looked at how many kgs of fuel rods there was in all four reactors combined, and went with the yield number that would be associated with a nuclear bomb made from that amount of fission material. (that also would not be realistic, but if you're working against the clock and need immediate greenlighting from non-specialist higher-ups, I could see how you would only have time to do a worst-case napkin-calculation) Would either of those be enough to get to that many megatons? :)
@dcnole
@dcnole 2 жыл бұрын
Really glad you are continuing this series!
@nomad_lyfe
@nomad_lyfe 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes ye boi delivered on part 2 and brought back the chart :) congrats on your success with part one, that scene walking in the water was anxiety inducing, crazy to think those men survived and lived into I believe the early to mid 2000's
@naponroy
@naponroy 2 жыл бұрын
I've been to Pripyat. The radiation in the air there is background normal levels, but my geiger counter went nuts when I put it in places where rain water washed down off buildings, near the robots used to lear the graphite, or near the firemen's clothes which are still in the basement of the hospital. The city itlself now is almost totally overgrown with full-on forests in the streets, and I mean in all the streets except in the very centre.
@j_m_b_1914
@j_m_b_1914 2 жыл бұрын
Your explanation and overview of events is really clear and accurate. Thank you!
@zodden01
@zodden01 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this! I loved getting the perspective of somebody who understands the science. Thanks for the great video.
@Monkeynuts502
@Monkeynuts502 2 жыл бұрын
As far as the flashlights were concerned, I heard somewhere that the radiation was either interacting with the electrolytes in the batteries and reducing their lifespan, or that the radiation was ionizing the air around the batteries and shorting/draining them. I know jack about nuclear or electrical engineering though so take that with a bucket of salt.
@WesMordine
@WesMordine 2 жыл бұрын
Or a bucket of boron and sand.
@Circely
@Circely 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have anything more than a layman’s understand of radiation, but my partner has a degree in physics engineering. When we watched this scene he said the same thing about the batteries being drained by the levels of radiation
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Circely Pass this by your partner; the batteries are likely dry cells, which have a negative electrode of zinc (actually, the entire shell of the battery is the electrode). Gamma radiation may have caused a photoelectric effect in the negatively charged zinc cans, stopping the flow of electrons as the zinc "dumps" it's charge.
@Circely
@Circely 2 жыл бұрын
@@mfree80286 he immediately went “ah!” And said he didn’t consider that they’d be dry cell batteries, but that makes perfect sense. He then went on for a bit about them and how the hand crank they use for them in the show had thrown him off. Thanks for that, I always love when he goes into professor mode lol he gets so excited.
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 2 жыл бұрын
@@Circely I think the crank lights were backups put in for the show, since it's hard to follow the real situation (they just did the job in the dark) on camera. The dynamo lamps should have failed even faster, unless they were purely flywheel storage. Most of those use capacitors and that's basically just a roll of super-thin foils ripe for crystalline degradation.
@Fleato
@Fleato 2 жыл бұрын
in his analogy he says " near the speed of light" objects with mass with enough energy can go " near" the speed of light.
@Branwhin
@Branwhin Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for these. I love watching reactions to things, and I REALLY love when somebody who knows what they're talking about (and accepts corrections) reacts to things. I also love budgies, and hearing the odd tweet or squawk in the background makes me so happy. :D
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM Жыл бұрын
Thank you, sounds like I hit the trifecta :) thanks for watching.
@BigBear--
@BigBear-- Жыл бұрын
These reaction/breakdowns are as interesting as the series. Thanks!
@katesgardenchickencatrambl7680
@katesgardenchickencatrambl7680 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the nurses hands, I saw that as plausible, the firefighters were fighting the fire for hours, they were climbing on rubble, if there is graphite all over the ground, the were probably kicking it, stepping on it and the pieces of the irradiated building materials, dust. They have never really said much about the heat of fighting a fire period, the weight of the suits in summer. I've seen modern fire fighters throwing up from pure exposure to the heat.. So yeah, I could see these people physically coming into contact with particles, for just the layman watching this, I think they were effective with getting the point across. So many who probably watched this were not even born yet. I learned about it on the 28th, my 17th Birthday, and as much as I prefer accuracy and am a total geek about it, I hope with the dramatization of this story, it shocked people, made new generations become interested. Growing up with the cold war, and in those years is such a foreign concept to the youth of today.
@oliverdegreg7648
@oliverdegreg7648 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you acknowledge people’s corrections and also acknowledge your own mistakes. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@gizmophoto3577
@gizmophoto3577 2 жыл бұрын
As a good nuke should! ;-)
@UaxTaylor
@UaxTaylor 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyable videos! Looking forward to the last two
@Thelgren00
@Thelgren00 2 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to episode 3 reaction. I appreciate this content 👍
@HMan2828
@HMan2828 2 жыл бұрын
I think using boron-enriched sand, they were hoping it would melt and encase the debris in borosillicate glass, preventing dust and soot from escaping into the atmosphere...
@bradsmithstudios8881
@bradsmithstudios8881 Жыл бұрын
I revised Chernobyl recently so I’ve been revisiting your channel, still enjoying your videos!
@galidroo
@galidroo 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video dude. looking forward to part 3
@ryanmorley8211
@ryanmorley8211 2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing show, I've must have watched the whole thing over like 10x already.
@test987665
@test987665 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 2-4 Mt explosion was probably the most outrageous thing they made up for the show. The initial Chernobyl explosion that started the accident and which includes the maximum amount of fission material in contact with water and at the highest temperature, is estimated at 10 tons of TNT (not KILOTONS, just TONS, and that might actually be for the stronger second hydrogen explosion). Some of the lava drip feed dropping into the water tanks below would be extremely unlikely to cause an explosion in the first place, not even talking yields. And even if some explosion did happen, it would be much smaller than the initial explosion because the strength of the explosion would be determined not by what the total amount of water in the tanks is, but how much of it can you instantly vaporize - ie. how much of the lava you can get in contact with the water at any point in time. If the whole melted core instantly dropped in the water tanks then perhaps you could get an explosion strong enough to destabilize the some part of the reactor complex and cause more trouble, but realistically you would just get a slow drip feed of lava coming through some pipe (what actually happened) which would just be dropping into the water, making nice lava rocks there and the water perhaps getting warm enough for a nice swim. Obviously, as discussed, the characters in the show could just be exaggerating the threat in order to get resources from the government, but the way it's portrayed is as if it that was the actual threat and no effort is made to show that it was just an exaggeration. I think there is an actual interview with some Soviet official who mentions this very thing - the possibility of a megaton explosion - but the idea is so preposterous on its head that you couldn't possibly take it at face value - which the creators either did, or they didn't but thought it would be a good idea to add it for dramatic effect anyway.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer 2 ай бұрын
It was apparently a mistake they legitimately made at the time.
@Alinoe67
@Alinoe67 Жыл бұрын
i love at 20:07 as while he is explaining the use of boron and sand, Legasov and Shershvina seemingly look at him like "well he knows what he is talking about"
@SecondSince
@SecondSince 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to you doing the rest of the show! :)
@jimsmith9251
@jimsmith9251 10 ай бұрын
I watched your K19 video two hrs ago, this is now my third video, you have taught me so much in just a couple of hours, thank you sir, going to binge watch the rest now, much love from the UK 😁
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, glad to hear it!
@timl8258
@timl8258 2 жыл бұрын
There is a really good book (The Legacy of Chernobyl by Zhores A. Medvedev) that goes into the fear about the lava (corium) reaching the bubbler pools. If i remember correctly, it was actually a fear that the entire reactor might collapse into the bubbler pools because of how much material had been dropped from helicopters. They worried that the foundation had been compromised by the impact of material from the helicopters.
@justinaspocevicius6870
@justinaspocevicius6870 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason soviets were so concerned about underground smelting nuclear fuel, it could easily get into rivers water underground feeding branch (in theory) and could contaminate drinking water source for hundreds of million people.
@BlaneNostalgia
@BlaneNostalgia 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Very interesting insight to the inner workings and effects of a nuclear reactor. A layman like me was able to keep up with most of the explanations. The timestamps are great. To help your channel grow I think if you simplify it even more, maybe add some graphs/pics this channel can go places!
@st3althyone
@st3althyone 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful breakdowns on the realism or use of dramatic effect in these disaster shows. It’s terrifying how their bureaucracy got in the way of people doing their job properly. What I learned of nuclear science I learned from my brother, who was a nuclear engineer, and it’s sobering learning that when things are done improperly, the shit hits the fan very quickly, and that is what happened at Chernobyl.
@bruja_cat
@bruja_cat 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an artist and not a scientist at all but I love learning about all of this, it’s so super interesting please do more videos!!!
@Ibanhoof
@Ibanhoof 2 жыл бұрын
loving your explanations. I don't know much about radiation. but what I do know is fire. in the first episode they reported a fire in the roof after the explosion hence why firefighters were called. now if firefighting operations had to stop because of safety or no more firefighters due to radiation hazard. A building fire would still be burning unchecked. all the flammable materials on the roof, building insulation, building contents, etc would still be alight and burning regardless of what is happening at the core (which i know nothing about), i think the smoke plume is more to signify that there is still a building fire going on separate to the disaster that is happening with the core. also that back aggressive smoke plume usually comes from unburnt products of combustion from man made materials such as plastics. wood generally burns "cleaner"
@pwprout
@pwprout 2 жыл бұрын
This content is fantastic. Please keep it coming.
@guiltygearalonecompl
@guiltygearalonecompl 2 жыл бұрын
I love the footnotes that accompany charts, much appreciated!
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
Any time.
@ThatDamnPandaKai
@ThatDamnPandaKai 2 жыл бұрын
So I heard something interesting from a Nuclear Physicist who was working in Russia at the time of Chernobyl. First, Sand and Boron was their second option, they initially tried and dump sand mixed with other metals like lead (which apparently would have made it worse). Not sure if they actually did that, or they were warned before they did it. And secondly, They should have used Cadmium instead of Boron because it's a much better neutron emission absorber, but it was too expensive for the Soviet Union to acquire (or they just didn't want to spend all the money)
@mikekelly7862
@mikekelly7862 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this series... looking forward to the rest of your reactions. Really like how you led with the comments and corrections... and in general just really succinct and simple explanations. I think you'll gain a lot more subs based on how popular the HBO series has become, and how cult like of a following its gotten. But as an aside I would absolutely love to see a react video in the same vein as this for The China Syndrome... I love that movie, but I am hardly even a layman in my knowledge of nuclear science and as such I have little idea how accurate/inaccurate the things depicted in that movie were. Regardless, its just a fun, classic 70's disaster thriller; and well worth a dissection I think! Can't wait to see more content, awesome stuff!
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
thank you! yes, I'm thinking China Syndrome will be next. Never seen that one so it will be a true reaction.
@-----REDACTED-----
@-----REDACTED----- 2 жыл бұрын
YES! THANK YOU! I so waited for this! 😂
@D2jspOFFICIAL
@D2jspOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
NICE i didnt expect an upload
@christopherrousseau1173
@christopherrousseau1173 2 жыл бұрын
You are mistaking his analogy of each atom of uranium, neutrons bullets. In fact it is a very good analogy. He isn't saying they are traveling the speed of light. He is saying that each atom of uranium was giving off those neutrons, which were like bullets. That is the main key of using fission to begin with
@Snoggy_1_2
@Snoggy_1_2 2 жыл бұрын
I was in Pripyat in 2019, before Covid, the hospital is still there. The basement's been blocked up with sand so, it's not as easy to get to anymore but there's a few pieces of helmet you can see in the reception hall.
@DominickAPD
@DominickAPD 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the first video, I subscribed when you spent the first several minutes reading corrections.
@JohnSmithZen
@JohnSmithZen 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the rest of your HBO Chernobyl series reactions! Thank you!
@BlackHeartGames
@BlackHeartGames 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your explanations so far. One thing I've wondered about this show is if any of the inaccuracies were actually because that's what people believed at the time? We know a lot more about radiation now because of Chernobyl.
@Feargal011
@Feargal011 2 жыл бұрын
As explained above, part of the dramatic dialogue is to convince Politburo figures this event was extremely serious, so went way above actual risk. On the other hand, the series shows real - if mistaken - concerns: that people suffering from radiation sickness were radioactive, that foetuses concentrated radioactive particles, that a melt down into the water table would lead to a large proportion of extremely radioactive corium would collapse into water through the plant floor, setting off a really large steam explosion. Other things appear to have muddled effects: a large steam explosion (or 2nd criticality) would have been less than 1/1000 as powerful as stated. The 'real effect' fear would be radioactive fall out similar to a 2-3 Mt nuclear explosion covering most of Belarus & western Ukraine. Can anyone check if that was the fear of nuclear physicists advising the Soviet government at the time?
@LtKregorov
@LtKregorov Жыл бұрын
The bullet explanation he uses takes into account he is mostly talking to military staff. The bullet concept is easy to grasp for this audience. A sign of a great teacher is when they can rapidly size the type of audience they are in front of and adapt the dialogue so that it makes sense to them. I think, considering the audience, that it is an excellent analogy. If he had been in front of physicist, he would have used a different route ( we can assume)
@kylewilmoth5769
@kylewilmoth5769 2 жыл бұрын
Glad this dude is watching over our Nuclear Safety, thanks bro!
@tiernanorourke8023
@tiernanorourke8023 2 жыл бұрын
As always enjoying the videos. Now get to work on the other parts!!!
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
thanks tiernan! always cracking the whip haha
@Justin.Franks
@Justin.Franks 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the "natural nuclear reactor" in Oklo, Gabon. Conditions were just right for a self-sustaining nuclear reaction in the uranium ore, with groundwater acting as the moderator. It was discovered because the amount of U-235 in the ore from the mine was significantly lower than normal.
@banryu79
@banryu79 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is a really interesting subject, especially for this channel! 👍
@BGWDstudios
@BGWDstudios 2 жыл бұрын
All electromagnetic radiation induces current on wires, and this is observable even with radio waves. With gamma radiation it's much more severe, and you could foreseeably break any circuit elements like a resistor, diode, etc if they're not beefy enough to stand up to the extra flow of electrons. Especially if your filament is only rated to handle the internal battery, that could potentially burn right out.
@sigmasquadleader
@sigmasquadleader 2 жыл бұрын
And to add, electrons flowing the wrong way can damage circuits too. That can be as simple as the orientation of a device towards the radiation source.
@abhilashapati4677
@abhilashapati4677 2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmasquadleader indeed it is difficult for us to imagine electrical devices behaving that way because we have never experienced radiation of the range 15000 Röntigen
@DogmaBeoulve
@DogmaBeoulve 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing smart, experienced, technical people talk about things way over my head is always wonderful and fascinating ;D
@markbrodie2784
@markbrodie2784 Жыл бұрын
Great great channel! this guy is the best!
@mrsmerily
@mrsmerily 2 жыл бұрын
22.57 yes, they actually believed that it might cause really bad reaction especially because it would take other reactors which were all working through all of this with them and cause them to explode too.
@bigfootape
@bigfootape 2 жыл бұрын
Estimates for the thermal explosion place the magnitude in the low kiloton range which would probably disperse the balance of the core material in No.4 along with No.3, perhaps No.1 and 2 as well. Even compared to the original event, the potential for contamination would be immense. I suspect the writers may have taken the input from an expert advisor and conflated the potential for contamination with explosive power. Not really sure, though, as fallout predictions from a 3 megaton surface detonation are hard to come by.
@Commandelicious
@Commandelicious Ай бұрын
I watched your first video about this and finally watched the series. Ouf is it good.
@MarcinMoka1
@MarcinMoka1 2 жыл бұрын
So fascinating. Thank you!
@diankemp9908
@diankemp9908 2 жыл бұрын
The sand was used to starve the fire of oxygen Your analogy of thermal power post scram might be incorrect. The Thermal power of a 1000 MWe plant is ±3000 MW. 5% of that is 150 MW which is what the thermal output is directly under scram conditions. So your basic values are still correct, just that the 33% efficiency of converting heat to electricity is included in the 15%
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the mention! Great narrative again. So good to have someone with knowledge and a level head give a response to this show. 👍 Btw, I think the 2-4 Mt line is as exaggerated as you think it is. Just doing a really quick back of an envelope calculation, let’s figure out the maximum energy that could possibly have been deposited, (and in reality I think the amount released in a steam explosion would have been way less than this). The core of an RBMK has a mass of around 200 tons, and for the sake of argument let’s say that, of the 5,000 tons of sand they dropped 300 on top, 300 tons made it to mix with the core, and let’s make the very generous assumption that all that combined core material and sand reaches the water at about the same time. Now I’m going to assume the “lava” (usually called corium) is about 20% ZrO2, 20% UO2 and 60 % sand) so the specific heat capacity will be approximately 760 J/kgK. That’s 500,000 kg x 760 = 3.8x10^8 J/K. Now assume that the temperature of the corium is about 2,800°C (I got this from a Wikipedia entry about corium), and let’s assume that hitting the water takes it down to nearly 0°C, so the release of energy is 1.06x10^12 J. This is a lot, but a megaton is 4.184x10^15 J, so this is actually 0.25 kilotons of energy: or between 8,000 and 16,000 times smaller than this claim. No scientist would have made this claim, only a script writer trying to add drama to the show [Edit: or a Soviet propagandist]. In doing so, drawing a parallel with the unit used to measure the yield of large nuclear weapons is, I’m sure, entirely deliberate.
@callowaymotorcompany
@callowaymotorcompany 2 жыл бұрын
The real Vassili Nesterenko said the team of scientists were worried about a 3-5 megaton explosion in an earlier documentary about his efforts in Chernobyl. This concern may or may not have been valid, but the writers got this line from the primary source, they didn't just make it up to add drama. Its important to remember that this isn't a science documentary, its a retelling of the events on the ground during the disaster. That includes when the Soviets were incorrect or didn't have all the facts themselves, or acted on best guesses in the interest of time. If you want to know if the show is claiming something the Soviets werent, the best way to do that is to simply look up whether the Soviets claimed it, not quick back of an envelope calculations. Edit: here he is saying it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdWJjKWVyKeVnKM.html
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 2 жыл бұрын
@@callowaymotorcompany understood and point taken on the script. I may be wrong, but this seems like an exercise in fairly simple thermodynamics. It’s possible that, like the initial reactor steam explosion, it would generate hydrogen which would lead to subsequent chemical explosion, but even then I don’t see how it could increase by 4 orders of magnitude. Again, I may have made a mistake in my rough calculations, and anyone is free to check and tell me.
@callowaymotorcompany
@callowaymotorcompany 2 жыл бұрын
@@langdalepaul I don't think your calculations were wrong. My only point was that we can only examine the show based on what happened at the time. My comment may have come off salty and i didnt mean that. It just felt like a lot of people call this show inaccurate based on science, when the show is honestly extremely precise in its retelling of events, and nobody here mentioned how most of the inaccuracies came from real life. Like how they treated radiation sickness as essentially contagious. This is wrong as we know now, but this was the belief of the general population of the USSR at the time. And so its in the show. Things like that. Another commenter here said the risk could have come from the water acting as a neutron moderator and caused the corium to act as a low yield bomb. Perhaps they were including the other reactor cores in that theoretical "explosion". Maybe it was a combination of all of the above, steam, fission, hydrogen, multiplied by multiple cores. Or maybe they were just mistaken. No way to know almost 50 years later. Personally, im not disagreeing with you on the science here at all because i can't make heads or tails of their numbers either.
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 2 жыл бұрын
@@callowaymotorcompany I’ve just done some searching around on this video with Vassili Nesterenko, and I found a fairly long video from Thunderf00t that debunks the 3-5 Mt claim quite well, and explains why he might not have been telling the whole truth in an interview designed for a Western audience. The key part of the explanation comes after 30:40. If it really doesn’t make sense, then it’s probably not true. It’s entirely possible that HBO are unwittingly perpetuating at least part of the very web of lies that they were trying to expose with this series. Much of the anti-nuclear sentiment that built up in the West up into the 90s, and is still with us today, was the result of the highly successful Soviet propaganda machine. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idmUf6d32cjIonU.html
@callowaymotorcompany
@callowaymotorcompany 2 жыл бұрын
@@langdalepaul HBO aren't trying to expose a web of lies though... They're trying to tell the story of the Chernobyl from the perspective of the people on the ground, in real time. It doesn't really matter that the USSR was full of shit. This is like watching a show about the invasion of Iraq from the perspective of the soldiers and calling out the show writers over lines about Saddam having WMDs which was a blatant lie. I don't think its unreasonable to make a show like this and not twist the story that happened in their reality to fit the story that we know to be true now in hindsight. And i have no idea how the show writers would have written around this without engaging in rampant speculation about history, because unless they have access to USSR documents nobody else does, they'd have to assume it were a lie, then just guess the motive, which is what tfoot did. I don't think that lends any more credibility than just going with the best picture we have access to from primary sources.
@rileyedges7312
@rileyedges7312 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I subscribed after seeing you review the first episode. I’ll look for your gaming channel too after finishing this episode up.
@pauljohnson271
@pauljohnson271 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the great work and positive response. As an audience member: please keep up the great work.
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much! full steam ahead
@thesilversage1
@thesilversage1 2 жыл бұрын
The man in the hospital with the baby was covered in radioactive ash at the end of ep1. As for the nurse using the word "sick" i think they were forbidden from using words that had to do with admitting there was a nuclear explosion. She can't say he was exposed to radiation.
@richard2371
@richard2371 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, he was on the bridge, the show runners made a point that this nurse knows the dangers of radiation when asking about the iodine pills. Im not sure about being forbidden, but when people are in emergency situations it's wise to use simple terms to avoid confusion, warning lyudmilla she'll get sick is all she needs to know.
@robinhood5627
@robinhood5627 2 жыл бұрын
25:00 Firstly no it's not cinematic liberty, I have heard of this entire conversation way before the TV series came out and it was a legit worry from what I understand. My guess is the fuel mix here wasn't simply normal reactor fuel but also being used for weapons production, ergo some of it could have been more enriched than officially acknowledged. I believe the worry wasn't particularly for a steam explosion but for the fuel to come into a configuration conducive to a prompt criticality or nuclear detonation. Remember this was the height of the cold war and these reactors were a source of bomb material and the KGB would have silenced anything that would expose there weapon secrets. I know a fair bit about nuclear weapons and I don't for a moment believe a 2 to 4 megaton nuclear explosion would have come from Chernobyl, but the people in that room did.
@IIBloodXLustII
@IIBloodXLustII 2 жыл бұрын
@Chris Rodeyns Nah. My understanding of an RBMK reactor is that it doesn't use any enriched uranium. It runs on unenriched which is more difficult to regulate, but also less expensive to run.
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 2 жыл бұрын
RBMK reactors use slightly enriched uranium fuel, around 2.4% U-235. This is not enough to be economically used to extract weapons grade plutonium. Spent fuel was just left in massive storage facilities on-site. I haven’t yet seen a reasonable explanation for this 2-4 Mt claim.
@TWFydGlu
@TWFydGlu 2 жыл бұрын
If the reactor melts through the floor doesn't mean it makes an opening for the steam to exit. No doubt there are many other openings for gas, but right at that point there is just molten lava with sand on top.
@firestorm165
@firestorm165 2 жыл бұрын
Besides, if you're talking to officials who's usual MO is to sweep it under the rug and deny, deny, deny... are you honestly going to tell me that you're not going to give them the absolute worst *theoretically* possible outcome to make sure they don't do that
@Ishlacorrin
@Ishlacorrin 2 жыл бұрын
@@langdalepaul The 'reasonable' explanation is that they were in an unknown and uncharted situation at the time and short on time to run all the equations. Because of that they needed to make snap decisions about just what 'might' be possible without proving it first. At the time they thought this might happen, we know now it was not possible, but at the time they guessed that it might be and wanted to head that possibility off before it came to be. Always better to err on the side of caution when dealing with such things, especially when your solution will not cause further harm to the situation itself. If you can take action that 'might' help and definitely will not make matters worse, why not do so?
@hausofphid3966
@hausofphid3966 2 жыл бұрын
In the first episode, it shows those on the bridge being covered in ash from the fire. They seem to be in those same clothes in the hospital? Maybe that's why the nurse instructed Lyudmilla not to touch the baby? Love these videos, by the way! Stellar commentary and insight!
@sirmontecristo2808
@sirmontecristo2808 2 жыл бұрын
These are the best reviews I've seen for this series. One thing I like, is how humble you are and understanding about the show, yeah it's a show, not a documentary. Also, remember nuclear accidents weren't a thing back then and I doubt everyone even the most highly respected scientists were 100% right. Maybe they did say it could've been a 2-4 Megaton explosion, but were they trying to be accurate or persuasive? Maybe they said things that weren't that accurate just to have the political officer agree with them. Remember this is in Soviet times. The show is very good, and I like that you point out these inaccuracies, but I would like to see more of a clarification than a correction. Having said that, I can't wait for E3 review. Thanks
@beanieweenietapioca
@beanieweenietapioca 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched it myself, but I kind of want to see your take on "The China Syndrome." I think it's one of those films whose cultural impact far exceeded its own quality as a film. Much like how Rosemary's Baby and the Exorcist created and provided the basic script for our decades long Satanic Panic, I suspect the China Syndrome basically launched hysterical (as opposed to well informed) anti-nuclear panic in the US.
@jbassguy571
@jbassguy571 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen it in years but I remember it as a good film, more of a investigative journalism thriller although it did have quite a few scenes in the reactor control room involving a fair bit of jargon that would be interesting to see reviewed by a modern expert.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale 2 жыл бұрын
"China syndrome" just sounds like a fancy way to say "mongoloid" or "down syndrome." Real psychologically chosen name to dub a nuclear scare.
@sandragruber4596
@sandragruber4596 2 жыл бұрын
Stellan Skarsgård... The moment you said his name, I realised that Baron Harkonnen was at Chernobyl! 😀
@Halfcocked1222
@Halfcocked1222 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back. I subscribed a few months ago when you were dark and was wondering if you'd start making videos again.
@TheAtomicAgeCM
@TheAtomicAgeCM 2 жыл бұрын
thank you! glad you stuck it out :) I'm trying to get more regular with videos
@spacemaster13
@spacemaster13 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the videos 💜💜
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