Chess Grandmaster Thinks He Can Beat Me At Duck Chess
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Жыл бұрынIn this video I play an entertaining 4-game Duck Chess match against the amazing Grandmaster@JonLudvigHammerChess. The last game was the most insane. Be sure to follow GM Hammer on Twitch and KZfaq!
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@MrCheeze Жыл бұрын
Since I don't see too many people mentioning it, thanks for editing Hammer's feed into the video! It adds a lot to have both perspectives.
@fifdspence Жыл бұрын
Fancy seeing you here :D
@MrSilvo34 Жыл бұрын
Hey it's the OOT guy!
@TheKawww Жыл бұрын
This
@jkid1134 Жыл бұрын
A layman would think Eric misspoke when he called the duck a bishop, but I was there when he was ordained
@mratkovich Жыл бұрын
Eric so casually talks about his moves like it’s well documented duck chess theory. Surprised he’s not referencing games from the duck chess championships in the 1960s from legendary duck chess world champions
@JDRed117 Жыл бұрын
You mean *well duckumented?*
@MyBiPolarBearMax Жыл бұрын
So nonchalant about it, i love it.
@jettaeschroff6924 Жыл бұрын
personally my favorite would be jose quackablanca
@shapular Жыл бұрын
Garry Quacksparov was a legend.
@dylanklassen5436 Жыл бұрын
Eric will be duck chess world champion. Just wait
@jay-el9pg Жыл бұрын
Hammer: “I’m moving faster than I ever have” Eric: “it’s been a while since I’ve played duck chess”
@balygaby Жыл бұрын
so what?
@jay-el9pg Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a funny way to point out their different playstyles
@ButcherParry Жыл бұрын
Why so confrontational people in the replies? its just a comment on a youtube video, we're all here to enjoy ourselves and support Eric... please lets not be negative for no reason.
@davidecimino7112 Жыл бұрын
Its a funny parallel no need to attack the original commenter
@ARedJoker Жыл бұрын
@3BDU If you can’t find the correlation between someone saying they haven’t played a game in a while and someone who’s desperately trying to make moves to make their opponent low on time, that’s on you. That’s not on them. Thanks for telling on yourself 😂😂😂
@rohitraghunathan Жыл бұрын
Never seen a GM try so hard to beat an IM
@shahilgupta8176 Жыл бұрын
Its actually a match between a squeak master vs The Quack Master
@ABunchOTrees Жыл бұрын
And lose!
@JaretDawson Жыл бұрын
Love the heavy theoretical discussion on piece value between two people who can’t hear each other
@dark6.6E-34 Жыл бұрын
i like how both questioned the others knowledge on piece value
@emmafountain2059 Жыл бұрын
Honestly 90% of the reason I love watching Eric play duck chess so much is just watching him outplay everyone including like GMs and stuff
@johan_r59 Жыл бұрын
And 10% is due to the duck puns
@lonewanderer9499 Жыл бұрын
@@johan_r59 90% duck puns for me :)
@Sir_Isaac_Newton_ Жыл бұрын
@@johan_r59 And (limit when x goes to 0)% because of the impostor among us
@MyBiPolarBearMax Жыл бұрын
I *really* want to see Eric play Magnus in duck chess. Itd be super interesting to see how it plays out.
@ChristianHegele Жыл бұрын
Quacktics. Quacktivate.
@spoder22 Жыл бұрын
Hammer: “I WILL EXPLOIT HIS INACCURATE FEELINGS ABOUT THE GAME!” Eric: “it’s important not to second guess myself.”
@pietropiscina6916 Жыл бұрын
Lmao hammer is hilarious
@dark6.6E-34 Жыл бұрын
loses bo3
@DibzNr2234 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Eric casually call out duck moves like "We might see Duck E3 next" is so fucking funny for no reason
@Flairis Жыл бұрын
im literally the same bro 😂😂😂
@shiina29 Жыл бұрын
OMG, that thumbnail! 🤣 And it's amazing how quickly Eric has become recognized as THE Duck Chess guy.
@ColdAndBrew Жыл бұрын
He’s always been THE duck chess guy. The world has finally caught up and acknowledged this fact.
@mburg33 Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail was AI Generated fun fact
@flasher08 Жыл бұрын
What about "oh no my queen?"
@anonymouslyforgotten3840 Жыл бұрын
“We have a situation I know; I’ve studied duck Theory before.” This is a wild statement… Chess masters are truly a different breed. 😅
@rontti5570 Жыл бұрын
"I will go back to practicing, and i will become faster" is like an anime quote
@cineblazer Жыл бұрын
I love how chill and humble Eric is. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the kingdom of Duck.
@alvarezjnv Жыл бұрын
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
@jedinxf7 Жыл бұрын
blessed are the duckmakers
@maloxi1472 Жыл бұрын
You my brother, are not coming to my church
@henryaggerate9669 Жыл бұрын
Eric almost lost that last game because he played the Dutch instead of the Ducktch
@CheddarCheeseRebirthed Жыл бұрын
Research concludes playing the Ducktch increases win percentages by 60% Only counter is the play itself (Ducktch vs Ducktch)
@starrmayhem Жыл бұрын
wow, no stalemate in king vs king & pawn endgame, it is completely winning for the side who is a pawn up; absolutely the future of chess
@harshilsangal6226 Жыл бұрын
Nigel Short knew it before any of us.
@sashaboydcom Жыл бұрын
So there's no skill needed for endgames!
@ArturoSubutex Жыл бұрын
@@sashaboydcom What do you mean there's no skill needed, it requires a lot of skill to shoulder the opponent's king and then 'duckstalemate' it
@pairot01 Жыл бұрын
How is it a win? White plants the duck in front of the pawn and you can't advance. Stalemating loses the game by rule.
@Modie Жыл бұрын
@@pairot01 Stalemate is different in duck chess. You are allowed to move your king to a square that is attacked. So the traditional stalemate isn't possible. A stalemate position in duck chess would be that you are playing as white, your king is on a8 and you have two pawns, one on a7 and one on b7. Now if the opponent places the duck on b8, you can't move anymore (neither pawn nor king), because you have to move first and THEN place the duck. In this case, white wins, because black forced a stalemate by putting the duck on b8.
@potatoonastick2239 Жыл бұрын
Dual commentary 😍 my favorite
@paragonthemortalddosurvivo6788 Жыл бұрын
“You know you're in love with Duck Chess when you can't fall asleep because reality is finally better than your dreams.” ― Dr. Seuss
@billsmith8397 Жыл бұрын
That final game was probably my most favorite chess game I’ve ever seen. Please do more of this content Eric, you’re an absolute beast. It’s so beautiful to see just how much of a juggernaut you are at this.
@joakimquensel597 Жыл бұрын
If you release this on VHS it will be a duck tape. ☝😲
@rhoddryice5412 Жыл бұрын
You’ve secured the best duck chess comment of the year with “duck tape”
@tomd96 Жыл бұрын
The concept of Duck Chess is super interesting for someone that's not seen this variant before. The duck acts as a blocking piece so that others can't move into or through it. This results in some funky stuff, like denying bishops/queens/rooks their line of sight, which can make it really hard to mate someone or promote from a distance, cus you can just plant the duck in the way while you go about your usual strategy.
@brett6468 Жыл бұрын
Duck Chess plays to Eric's greatest strength: A highly developed sense of humor. Anyone can be sarcastic and boorish. Eric is genuinely funny.
@colorfulslime8820 Жыл бұрын
I have my first college final today, this video being uploaded has made me feel a lot better. Thank you for playing more duck chess Eric 🦆
@michaelclarkj Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the inclusion of Hammer's perspective. Really fun and good material.
@deetrixreed8961 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the most amazing and exciting chess content I've seen. That last game was Legendary and the build up to it from the previous games made it even better.
@georgehornsby2075 Жыл бұрын
Are knights stronger in duck chess since they can't be blocked like bishops, rooks etc?
@user-svqmbiv Жыл бұрын
Yes, knights are definitely better than bishops and possibly even better than rooks.
@Diam.ndBlock Жыл бұрын
that's the most aggressive looking duck i've ever seen
@quazzydiscman Жыл бұрын
The stuff of my nightmares...I have an irrational fear of being tied down in a room full of hungry water fowl...
@sibanbgd100 Жыл бұрын
@@quazzydiscman nothing irational about that fear.
@dark6.6E-34 Жыл бұрын
@@quazzydiscman that would genuinely be gorier than being torn apart by a hungry pack of wolves or lions. A very slow death
@quazzydiscman Жыл бұрын
@@sibanbgd100 "irrational" as in most likely never happened and most likely never will... The FEAR is, in my mind, entirely warranted.
@eriksteffahn6172 Жыл бұрын
38:38 actually Kb3 Db1 is just mate. If the king is trapped in the corner you don't even need the pawn to win. And yes, king + pawn v king is always winning, and so is king + any piece v king. CORRECTION: king + pawn vs king is actually a draw in a lot of cases. So the position at 36:50 is actually a draw with correct play and around 37:10 white makes some mistakes and the position becomes winning for black.
@gregoryzelevinsky9837 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea, exploiting the symmetry of the corner
@tcooke182 Жыл бұрын
I have written a small duck chess tablebase, and you are incorrect. King + Rook/Queen is almost always winning. King + Bishop is sometimes winning. King + Knight is occasionally winning. King + pawn usually wins if it is a flank pawn, or if the central pawn is sufficiently advanced. In this case, the first position (after White took the rook, at 36:51) was a draw with correct play. White's biggest mistake was at 37:10. Instead of moving out of check in front of the pawn with Kd3@e4, he needed to go behind the pawn. The duck can be used to stop the pawn advance. Then, if Black continues shouldering the king down to the edge of the board (say Black king on d8, White has the opposition on f8 and duck on d7) then Black plays Kc7@e7 preventing White from retaining the opposition. If White makes a king move, Black just moves back. If White makes a pawn move, Black wins the race to the pawn. This only works from behind the pawn because the pawn itself defends the squares diagonally in front.
@joulev Жыл бұрын
@@tcooke182 Is there a way (web, github source, etc.) for me to try this tablebase? Duck chess endgame theories are really interesting actually, I completely didn't expect the way K+P/K endgame can turn out to be what it is at the end of the video.
@tcooke182 Жыл бұрын
@@joulev , I am happy to share the source. It wasn't written so other people could easily read or use it though. I don't have a gitlab acct though. Maybe Discord? I read the leela chess channel there, and I might be able to attach the source in the off-topic channel.
@eriksteffahn6172 Жыл бұрын
@@tcooke182 Interesting. I wrote a small tablebase myself (admittedly not a very good one, but it seemed to be correct) and my result was that bishop or knight is always winning, unless you lose the piece by force. I even tested it on some weaker pieces: a rook that can only move one square is still winning, a bishop that can only move 1 square is a draw, unless the king is trapped in the corner. What does sometimes/occasionally winning mean for you? Like only if the king is trapped on the edge of the board? About the king + pawn v king: I couldn't test that one, I just assumed it had to be winning, because eventually you have to stop blocking the pawn. It would be really interesting to see how the drawing mechanism works as it doesn't seem obvious to me at all.
@mathisj6582 Жыл бұрын
Tnx for sharing this,,, I was working, so I missed it. I'm impressed with Erics strength in DuckChess. Let's face it, Hammer is no joke of a chessplayer. Even though he's been mostly doing commentary for the last years. Hammer said afterwards he was slightly thrown off by the timecontrol, since he's been playing DuckChess with more time mostly. Not to take anything away from Erics skills in duckhess. You're really really good man. Tnx again, I loved this match. "We have a winning position yet again, let see how we gonna...screw...it...up" -GMJLH
@greglings5850 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Eric, wonder why Hammer values bishops over knights, in Duck chess, the knight is so powerful.
@gabreldj Жыл бұрын
I love this mode. I suck at it, but you make it seem really logical. You're amazing Eric! Keep the duck chess videos coming please! #1 at duck chess and #1 in my ❤️
@TheBswan Жыл бұрын
Great video format, great chess variant, great players, great games. The end game king+pawn duck theory was superb. Eric, you are truly deserving of the title Duck Master
@MrFrmartin Жыл бұрын
love having both up, seeing both perspectives.
@dusaprukiyathan1613 Жыл бұрын
love when eric figured out hammer was going by plain chess piece valuing, and started exploiting it
@pooetryofthefart5415 Жыл бұрын
Quality Duck Chess content!!!
@JasonKifner Жыл бұрын
Eric: "things are getting quacktical."
@outputcoupler7819 Жыл бұрын
That is an adorably intimidating duck in the thumbnail. I love it.
@plopsmcgee9672 Жыл бұрын
That "I'm trying to make things more quacktical" at 11:00 caught me off guard.
@Vandalgia Жыл бұрын
You seems very natural at this and I 200% believe that is because it has something to do with the duck, lmao. Also quack.
@alexbelardo7940 Жыл бұрын
I just want to hang a lamp on “Things are getting Quacktical” because that made my day
@ahmadshokry5945 Жыл бұрын
I have never enjoyed any other chess variant as I am enjoying watching Eric playing Duck chess. keep up the great work
@ramachandra776 Жыл бұрын
You would think Hammer would know that having a winning position against someone who inspired the eponymously named "Rosen trap" is not equal to winning . 🙂 .
@naudiatf2791 Жыл бұрын
Think it's safe to say Eric is the world's best duck chess player. Incredible to see an IM destroy a GM because they put so much time into the mode. Eric you demonstrated pure destruction at this mode. Not only are you better but faster too. Incredible
@Joachimhuby 3 ай бұрын
I love the continued use of duckzwang.
@Sa_tycker_jag Жыл бұрын
Eric talks so smooth and calm even if he only have a minute or two. I have a mental break down under 5 min.
@Ejsmich Жыл бұрын
Best thumbnail ever!
@im_lilly736 Жыл бұрын
Opponent: im scared Eric: 🙂
@walugusgrudenburg3068 Жыл бұрын
I love duck chess! It would please me greatly if you continued making duck chess!
@pkop4 Жыл бұрын
Seems like knight is better than bishop in duck chess, not sure why he thinks otherwise
@metafishling Жыл бұрын
I get the sense that he likes to control the center with pawns and bishops, and have multiple lines of attack or pins with bishops. But after being cracked by knights, maybe he will have to reconsider. Having only one bishop seemed to hurt his strategy.
@Tekkerue Жыл бұрын
Eric is a Super Quack Master! 🦆🦆
@parttimedogfish Жыл бұрын
At 6:55 GM Hammer deserves a special accolade for lining everything up neatly on the 6th rank
@yourimora5010 Жыл бұрын
Ducking great content Eric
@hardyniu942 Жыл бұрын
Duck Chess opening tier list!
@heyyicu Жыл бұрын
it would be so cool to see a rematch after Hammer learns that knights are better than bishops in duck chess because they are less blocked
@isaacpianos5208 Жыл бұрын
4:36 Eric: _uuh, fancy_ Hammer: *why did I do that* Sounds like when I make a terrible sacrifice but my opponent respects it and doesn't take my hanging piece
@hugosykes Жыл бұрын
10:15 Eric unknowingly responds to Hammer's comment 🤣
@rkond Жыл бұрын
I think there’s a simpler win in the final position: after Ke1da2 black goes Kb3db1. White has only Ka2 and Kb2 with black capturing the king on the next move
@nickc4063 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Rosen. Another great video
@fiendfi7119 8 ай бұрын
eric with the duck chess endgame theory
@willlacey7621 Жыл бұрын
“He’s moving the f-ing duck as far as possible!” LMAO
@queennine Жыл бұрын
LOL not even "duckpassant" lmao I like that one!
@MarvashMagalli Жыл бұрын
that endgame was crazy cool
@TymexComputing Жыл бұрын
OG - that Hammer is as crazy as duck!
@okty8372 Жыл бұрын
Those quacktics were amazing
@5omebody Жыл бұрын
the notation is great
@chandir7752 Жыл бұрын
That duck endgame was so cool
@a_wild_Kirillian Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful battle!
@HappytreeLuis Жыл бұрын
"I hate time." lmao
@josephross4498 Жыл бұрын
When you come for the king, you best not miss.
@WexMajor82 Жыл бұрын
"Duckpassant" is the funniest word I've heard all week.
@helgebrekke Жыл бұрын
The classic endgame theory of "King And Pawn And Duck vs King And Duck" (and even funnier considering "and" is the norwegian word for "duck")
@MyBiPolarBearMax Жыл бұрын
I *really* want to see Eric play Magnus in Duck chess.
@enmanuel1950 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how good Magnus would be at this mode. Cause one would think that all Super GMs would be amazing at it, but if you've seen Hikaru play you know that's not the case.
@tomc.5704 Жыл бұрын
Pattern recognition just goes out the window. Openings are different. Hanging pieces is different. So much training and instinct that now leads you right into mistakes. You practically need to re-train your brain. If Magnus spent six months training in Duck chess? He'd probably be pretty good. But that would also probably damage his normal chess skills -- at the level he plays at he can't afford to give an inch.
@moreon340 Жыл бұрын
At 11:07. "Trying to make things more quacktical.". That's gold.
@user-qv6fs8if7o Жыл бұрын
I just realized today that I know nothing about duck chess. Crazy to see how much Eric progressed.
@SmileyTheFoot Жыл бұрын
The duck in the thumbnail looks like the final boss in a game
@JESUS_CHRlST Жыл бұрын
Actually at 38:38 you go king b3 duck b1 to win, instead of pushing the pawn like Rosen said
@nemoyatpeace Жыл бұрын
24:06 Could you play Ra7 Db7 as check? Not that I think that is a great move, just wondering how the duck works in that case.
@hazelelloyd Жыл бұрын
This is so entertaining, and the GM is really a great personality
@JustanamebroDK Жыл бұрын
Eric, on move 24 of a game of duck chess " Yeah this is getting confusing now "
@jacoblang5642 Жыл бұрын
Eric have you played the Seirawan chess variant? That could be some awesome content (though you'd probably need another streamer at your level to play with since it's not quite as popular as Duck Chess yet). It's basically normal chess but you can develop a hawk (bishop+knight) or elephant (rook+knight) to any square on the back rank on the first turn you move that piece. Way fun stuff.
@jkws0 Жыл бұрын
Check out his "New chess pieces" video from a month ago
@MrSlinky Жыл бұрын
I love how calm and composed eric is compared to the GM
@dillontarr8112 Жыл бұрын
I had to watch the end at .5 speed. So intense!
@Simon-yv4jm Жыл бұрын
Man, I like how a simple duck on the board makes GMs feel like they're really bad
@PaulFurber Жыл бұрын
Eric seems quacktically very strong at this.
@lifefindsaway7875 Жыл бұрын
White gets to make their first move without a duck in the way, but black has to deal with a duck from the get go. The first move advantage is even stronger in the current rule set. White either shouldn’t get to place a duck on the first move, or the game should start with black placing the duck on the board
@Rubrickety Жыл бұрын
Who’s the best female Duck Chess player? We need a Duchess of Duck Chess.
@fifdspence Жыл бұрын
For anyone looking for a place to play Duck Chess, I made a Discord. Can't post the link here I think due to spam filters but I posted it in the duckchess subreddit. Really enjoying your Duck Chess videos! You got me into the variant, and now I've completed my journey to 2000. Such an amazing variant; I don't really play regular chess now (all Duck Chess and Go). You're way stronger than I am, even more so than the rating difference reflects I think :D
@dreamerofthorns Жыл бұрын
Eric: ooo, duckchess Other guy: THE TIME CONTROLS, I CANT PLAY FAST ;-; god I fuckin love both cams at once
@brabhamfreaman166 Жыл бұрын
What do you use as a duck OTB? An actual duck seems somehow impractical - dunno why, just my instinct. Donald Duck figurine’d work. As, I guess, would *any* appropriately sized duck/bird model/figurine.
@pieTone Жыл бұрын
A rock.
@Kaepsele337 Жыл бұрын
We're usually using a rock. It fits well with the blocking feature of the duck
@_-__-____ Жыл бұрын
Rubber ducky
@molokoko786 Жыл бұрын
A Gandalf figurine
@Kaepsele337 Жыл бұрын
@@molokoko786 Do you have to yell YOU SHALL NOT PASS everytime you block a check?
@user-cx9un9fs7q Жыл бұрын
Duck chess is one of the best varietiants I’ve ever seen
@WelchsGrapeJuice Жыл бұрын
Yay! New duck chess video!!!
@retroape Жыл бұрын
Hammer is a video game villain
@simplydonks Жыл бұрын
2:24 black missed Nxb2θd2 queen discovery check winning Eric's queen
@gabreldj Жыл бұрын
Yessssss!!! The duck chess is back
@infra_Gray Жыл бұрын
the difference in stress levels hahaha. also Eric there's an fbomb in the first game
@di380 Жыл бұрын
Eric such a beast in duck chess 😳
@monkyyy0 Жыл бұрын
"He thinks knights are worth more then bishops I will crush he incorrect feelings" Oh no
@christopherw1248 Жыл бұрын
I didnt know there is a mate pattern for with king pawn vs king endgame lol.
@alexwalkie Жыл бұрын
Crazy quacktics!
@humansareweird2866 Жыл бұрын
Wow sick endgame
@jedinxf7 Жыл бұрын
lol kp endgames are hilarious. kinda hard to lose the opposition when you get to take away a square every time
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