Carlsen's shocking loss to Suleymenov explained | Qatar Masters 2023

Carlsen's shocking loss to Suleymenov explained | Qatar Masters 2023 | Commentary by Sagar

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7 ай бұрын

The last time Magnus Carlsen lost to player rated around 2500 Elo was back in 2006 when he was just 16 years old. That's 17 years ago! In round 2 of the Qatar Masters Open 2023, Magnus not just lost his game to the 23-year-old Kazakh GM Alisher Suleymenov, but was completely smoked from the board. Check out this game along with the commentary of IM Sagar Shah to understand how exactly a player with a rating of nearly 300 points below Magnus could outwit him so thoroughly.
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@DEADPOOL-or8yg 7 ай бұрын

Never seen such bold and confident sacrifices, against Magnus . He's Truly Commendable ❤

@ChocolateQueen_555 7 ай бұрын

"Magnus first time lost to a 2500 player since 2006" He is really an expert..

@doperapper7957 7 ай бұрын

Fk ur spoiler

@claudiog7692 7 ай бұрын

He just doesn’t play them frequently

@a.k.astallion357 7 ай бұрын

Lol his is not 2nd lose lol

@barrufio 7 ай бұрын

I never lost to a 2500. Haha

@barrufio 7 ай бұрын

Actually 2400 did looool

@sportschad 7 ай бұрын

Damn. That's the most cold-blooded 2500 I've seen yet.

@ChocolateQueen_555 7 ай бұрын

I wonder how '158' players are participating in this tournament and '74' of them are Indians.. That's brutal🎉

@RB-pn6wn 7 ай бұрын

It's an open tournament though. Anyone can participate.

@sandeepkumar-vm7oe 7 ай бұрын

What else Indians can do with so much mind... Somewhere they have to put it 😅

@sourabhsiitg 7 ай бұрын

May be bcz if u remove russia, india mit have 50 percent GM IM players

@atomik459 7 ай бұрын

israelis aren't allowed though@@RB-pn6wn

@iwanasnawi3434 7 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣

@nikhiltoraskar7845 7 ай бұрын

First time someone has so convincingly defeated The Magnus Carlsen, astonishing feat!

@TheNuscas 7 ай бұрын

He cheated. It's not a feat.

@sicsinnerindisguise 7 ай бұрын

@@TheNuscas prove it.

@musios1434 7 ай бұрын

@@TheNuscasdont be sad. Lose is lose. AS simple as that. No excuse

@arumugamappunu6813 7 ай бұрын

Every one is having a off -day.Magnus is no exception 😂

@Ilias2800 7 ай бұрын

@@TheNuscasJealous

@sreedharasheshegowda5780 7 ай бұрын

That boy is a picture of calmness. I felt he did yoga and not played that complicated chess. Brilliant

@TheNuscas 7 ай бұрын

Or he cheated. What's more likely?

@Electronite1978 7 ай бұрын

Indeed especially the opening phase by him was really simple. He simply brought all the pieces into the game before starting any action at all. And when he started to attack he reacted to Carlsens move Ne7.

@Ilias2800 7 ай бұрын

@@TheNuscasJealous burn inside😂

@hi.996 7 ай бұрын

@@TheNuscasI also kind off find him suspicious. His reaction time with 98% accuracy is not like a human

@ganeshv1670 7 ай бұрын

Do yoga bring calmness to ur mind... help madi...I want to be composite.

@ChocolateQueen_555 7 ай бұрын

Hi Chessbase India, keep uploading the videos and updates of Qatar Masters, your videos are soo good and I have learnt many things from you and I would love to watch all the updates you post.. One question - Who are you and Amrutha Mam rooting to win the title of Qatar Masters..😊

@SameerShaikh-vo3tb 7 ай бұрын

He even not given time to attack, young talent was unstoppable for Magnus

@mohnishyt1869 5 ай бұрын

He is not talent player he is cheating with magnas is so sad

@sultandalal3337 7 ай бұрын

For the first time i have heard Sagar say, THIS IS NOT A GOOD MOVE for Magnus. Wow. Never expected to hear this

@TeejayBoy-dn7no 7 ай бұрын

Bc this is not a live game commentary..

@sultandalal3337 7 ай бұрын

@@TeejayBoy-dn7no Haa toh. Isme gaali dene ki kya baat thi bhai

@harishukla753 7 ай бұрын

@@sultandalal3337Bc = because😅

@user-Hrushik.j.57 7 ай бұрын

@@harishukla753 sahi khel gaya bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@zachhaywood1564 7 ай бұрын

Can one pro chess player these days take a loss gracefully? Man

@AlexanderNevermind888 7 ай бұрын

I think the overemphasis on blitz, bullet, and rapid has hurt a lot of these GMs. If you look at this game closely, you can see that it has a lot of quick threats and impulsive moves. These guys used to be masters of long range planning to get you into difficult positions. The titled Tuesday or whatever they're called is good for fun and quick money maybe, but when they get back to classical, many of them suffer because they lose their positional sense and their endgame knowledge.

@marcodemartino1179 7 ай бұрын

What the hell are you saying? Carlsen two months ago won the World Cup, a full tournament of classical games

@FenShen-us9tv 7 ай бұрын

@marcodemartino1179 He was playing much weaker players even Pragg and Keymer were low 2700s that's a difference of 100+ points

@nigellee1995 7 ай бұрын

@@FenShen-us9tv Delusional

@FenShen-us9tv 7 ай бұрын

@@nigellee1995 Carlsen said so himself genius. "I'm glad i'm not playing the top guys this time"

@toroddlnning6806 7 ай бұрын

they are cheating. Look at the security, no delay. Its a joke

@lonewanderer8414 7 ай бұрын

Magnus loses to a struggling 23yr old chess coach so that his coaching business grows. Magnus is so humble. Be like Magnus.

@dunkel-zombi_fiziert-heit 7 ай бұрын

😂

@Ajayksansi-lt4oe 3 ай бұрын

😂😂

@HereCharlieRules 7 ай бұрын

Congratulations Alisher, good game!

@sheldonkupa9120 7 ай бұрын

I have the feeling that the 2700plus club is too elite, they know each other and prepare, also psychologically. When facing unknown, but good players it is uncomfortable. And Magnus tried to get into murky waters with Ne7 which is an invitation for a player who likes Kasparov games and analysed them well. Just a bad day for Magnus.

@thegodkira3953 7 ай бұрын

2700 is Elite af. Only 36 player today are rated above 2700 out of 2044 grandmasters. That makes the 2700s top 1% amongst the grandmasters

@sheldonkupa9120 7 ай бұрын

@@thegodkira3953 Exactly, and those view meet again and again in super tournaments while you dont know anything about the "weaker" players. We should have more occasions like the Qatar masters. Many are good enough to be also in that elite circle.

@Electronite1978 7 ай бұрын

Hikaru touched on this topic as well as he mentioned that nowadays you really have a hard time with players rated 2500-2600 and even with 2400 players as everyone is getting stronger. 2700 players indeed are the elite but is the gap as big as it seems to be is another topic.

@georghoffmann2449 7 ай бұрын

I agree, he just played not as good he plays normaly

@rajsub3884 7 ай бұрын

@@Electronite1978these daya after engine rating are misleading lot of player's better than that

@tanmayloshali8760 5 ай бұрын

Great game by suleymenov🎉🎉, but its intresting that no body praises his brilliant and accurate moves , rather all are interested in defeat of magnus

@eprn1n2 7 ай бұрын

Sulemenov can double his fees as a chess coach.

@supriyamukherjee5676 7 ай бұрын

What a game by the young GM!!!

@timothylee2772 7 ай бұрын

Blame the loss on a watch??Come on, man....that's petty.

@CowboyAye 7 ай бұрын

He never blamed the loss on a watch tho

@abhigyanchauhan9508 7 ай бұрын

@@CowboyAyeSee Magnus's tweet

@CowboyAye 7 ай бұрын

@@abhigyanchauhan9508 Exactly

@musman6270 7 ай бұрын

I watched this games 3 time before #SagarShah commentary on different channels. Now i am watching this game for the 4th time in SagarShah's commentary to learn and enjoy more... 👍🏻 👍🏻

@chandrakant1479 4 ай бұрын

That commentry is incredibly annoying

@sumit.bhowmik. 7 ай бұрын

The moment we have been waiting for : "The GOAT has been tamed" in Sagar's commentary

@mono1931 7 ай бұрын

You gotta give the time stamp! I gotta hear it

@refurbished 7 ай бұрын

Love your commentary Sagar! Thank you!

@karthiknarayanan7484 7 ай бұрын

When magnus wins, its just another tuesday for him When magnus loses, opponent cheated Comeon.. Pls give due respect to other player.

@ranjithkumar-rg3gf 7 ай бұрын

Idiot thinking from magnus worst sportsmanship 😅

@arnav5680 7 ай бұрын

Nobody said he cheated

@karthiknarayanan7484 7 ай бұрын

Just look at the comments.

@contactbalaji333 7 ай бұрын

We all can expect a mighty comeback from Magnus. Generally after a loss, he bounces back very strongly.

@Amplified435 7 ай бұрын

Zip him up after you’re done bruh

@user-do7jv6fk3z 7 ай бұрын

very good commentary, congrats!

@Brooder85 7 ай бұрын

Any player who successfully defeats Magnus, should print out the notation of that game and professionally frame it on their wall. 👍

@bartholomewlyons 3 ай бұрын

Especially after such a beautiful game

@XDC2000X 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely great commentary, like I was watching a football game! :D

@PureAwesommeness 7 ай бұрын

Wow, what a game!! Those pins and forks and sacrifices.. brilliant!

@johnanthony6092 7 ай бұрын

Half the commenters here are more paranoid than Carlsen.

@ezequielsilva6652 7 ай бұрын

Increíble la templanza del joven frente a Magnus.

@subhodeepdas6270 7 ай бұрын

This guy is going to be the new guy to look out for much like Vincent Keymer and Nodirbek Abdusattarov.

@TheGrandmasterMan 7 ай бұрын

To anyone thinking Suleymenov was cheating, did he also make Magnus put 3 major pieces on poor passive squares? Must be some watch that !!

@ishanjoshi1350 7 ай бұрын

I don't think suleymenov cheated but your argument is not correct. If Magnus is playing an opponent who he knows is 2500 he will play in a certain aggressive way. That will misfire if the 2500 plays a perfect 3200 level game which suleymenov did. And because of that Magnus is forced to retreat and put his pieces on passive squares just to try and come back to equality. If your opponent is much stronger than you, your play will always look bad in hindsight. That doesn't mean you are a bad player.

@vixotiq 7 ай бұрын

Brother, it's Magnus Carlsen. Pretty sure next time he loses the opponent's shirt would be too distracting. Then pants, then face, etc.

@symbarh 7 ай бұрын

@@ishanjoshi1350 Magnus is just a crybaby

@imjonathan6745 7 ай бұрын

@@gerryteiglandeide9902 admit it or not its not a rare sight to witness a chess pro player show some saltiness since the majority of them if not all of them has pride in their skill as a chess player whenever they lose it actually hurts most of them to an emotional level since playing chess is literally their "Job" or should we call it "Career", they grow up playing the game of chess and look at hikaru,kasparov,eric etc. they get pretty upset when getting the outcome they didn't expect or want at the moment it also applies to other careers but you get the point.

@gabrielmartinez2455 3 ай бұрын

Where can I buy that watch ?

@masarie246 7 ай бұрын

what a game, that was a brutal game, now, every GM's knows that to beat magnus they need some sacrifice and brilliant move

@retiuup3753 7 ай бұрын

3:27 watch

@romel.banerjee9 4 ай бұрын

One of the Best game of 2023!!!… What a game!!!!!❤

@skyltdockan 7 ай бұрын

Crushes the goat and not even a hint of a smile.

@kiranjith9287 7 ай бұрын

Please upload praagg videos too Nice job sagar

@gabrieledore1264 7 ай бұрын

Last phrase shocked me! THE FIRST TIME SHE LOST AGAINS A 2500 SINCE 2006! WHAAAAAT

@walterego960 7 ай бұрын

His watch is analogic...Totally normal. Poor Carlsen, poor guy

@mohammad1906 7 ай бұрын

This chess game has sparked a new chess controversy

@ExMuslimKerala_India Ай бұрын

I watched many many chess games from old to modern. I never seen crushing masterpiece like Rashid nejmedinov or morphy. But this match change everything

@HistoryChef 7 ай бұрын

Magnus might have blundered because of the fact that he sacrificed heavy pieces the way he did it in front of anand in 2013. Or maybe because of the fact that he did not make all his pieces active as he made his queen 'secure' with the rooks but that simply spilled more juice on his side. That's what I think.

@mayankgupta2543 7 ай бұрын

When Magnus was granted the wish of “invincible” he was told that one day an unknown underrated the one who is neutral will be born and will defeat u.

@subramanianrs318 7 ай бұрын

Magnus 's tweet is in poor taste and does not become the GOAT! He could have raised the issue quietly with the organisers afterwards.

@thepresentcoach5327 7 ай бұрын

supposed to have 1 man do the writing work for two players to focus! The two writing down slows down the excitement indeed.

@FieldMajor76 7 ай бұрын

Magnus has never played a game exactly like that and it will not happen again

@johncombo 7 ай бұрын

I like how people have a hard time believing that arguably the best chess player of all times lost to a 300 elo points weaker player because he was mad at organizators for efing up anti-cheat measures. Totally unbelievable..

@AABane 7 ай бұрын

What was time control? Seems like Classical.

@rajujagtapsaswad 7 ай бұрын

Brilliant game by young GM❤

@iftikaralam1oOne 7 ай бұрын

This kid checks homework of his Principal ☠️

@rahulbansode8124 7 ай бұрын

At the end the score doesn't matter... What does matter is the "state of mind" during the game.

@ericastier1646 3 ай бұрын

I have never seen any man with such composure as Alisher Sulleymenov, he is an absolute master of zen or whatever you choose to call it. Such calm demeanor and pacific movement almost kindness. I believe he is the greatest Chess player that lives.

@parthpotdar6889 7 ай бұрын

Brilliant chess my Sulemenov !!!

@rotagbhd 7 ай бұрын

The rules allow for analog watches. If you have any problem with any rule in contest you need to address it BEFORE you participate, or do not participate in that contest. Anyone that has ever worn a watch knows they cling to your skin and can feel awkward, so you move it to uncling it and get some air under it. I do this constantly. It is pathetic that all the Magnus fanboys moan as much as sore loser Magnus does.

@dhruvalvyas3924 3 ай бұрын

What do they write on paper after each move?

@bartholomewlyons 3 ай бұрын

People who bullied them at school. One name after each move

@themind1401 7 ай бұрын

Magnus is just big, trying something new all the time 👍

@lourenconapoleao289 7 ай бұрын

Are we allowed to play with hand watches in chess tournaments?

@shreshth691 7 ай бұрын

What a match great ❤

@moneyman...13 7 ай бұрын

great commentary

@naimulsayed1339 7 ай бұрын

Where is Suleymenov now? He did not any more match in the tournament? Or knocked out in some other matches?

@boys300jj 7 ай бұрын

Guy with 2 girls dancing at back😌😌 Guy see watch🤯

@motoporn9055 7 ай бұрын

Yeah Magnus is right watches shouldn't be allowed in the match as well as spectators with gadgets on.. but I hope this young gm's credibility will not be destroyed like he did to Nieman

@garywarmerdam1459 5 ай бұрын

Neimann is doing just fine, he needed those accusations to properly fuel his villain role

@hecker4361 7 ай бұрын

Is it necessary to write? What they're writing. Each and every move?

@AlokKumar-wh9zh 3 ай бұрын

Bro It is called notation. It is written by the players so that they have something like a proof that what they had move in the game.

@nulltube2530 7 ай бұрын

Theres no suspicious here no watch speak for itself

@suraiyaakterbeauty8561 7 ай бұрын

Well, didn’t see this coming 😢

@megatronus9309 7 ай бұрын

Looks like magnus wish to go for a defensive variant and see how it goes.. but he didn't expect that kind of attack. Even I would have beaten magnus in this game after his initially bad pan structure. Kudos to the opponent

@alekscvejic106 7 ай бұрын

Wow amasing what a game

@mtn2704 7 ай бұрын

How many points did magnus lose from this game?

@viniciuskf 4 ай бұрын

What a comentator! So great!

@NoobieDude8 2 ай бұрын

Amazing win😮🎉

@aniellodimeglio8369 4 ай бұрын

What a beautiful game.

@shreenatha464 7 ай бұрын

I am pretty sure Magnus was trying something different and did not mind losing ... moreover, he was trying to play a different line for experience with Black pieces ... But Suleymenov definitely played Great Chess

@rikardandersson6652 7 ай бұрын

Just so stupid....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Neomatrix8 5 ай бұрын

Very few times Magnus has been strangled like this..Well played rising star

@mahirajput5627 3 ай бұрын

Yeah 🎉Nice Game ❤❤

@naveenrai4u 3 ай бұрын

I have never seen anybody beating Magnus Carlsen like this ! Suleymenov has beaten Carlsen with such an ease and confidence which is quite astonishing !!!

@cesarolmedo6758 7 ай бұрын

People's take on conspiracies is ridiculous.

@carlopedersoli4844 7 ай бұрын

So after this watch scandal, the chess federation decided that Alisher will play his next matches wearing a speedo only, locked in a glass cage like magneto with a hannibal lector mask on.

@aventura8491 7 ай бұрын

Only fools would think it´s not only possible to cheat, but some might even do it, right? Get real.

@carlopedersoli4844 7 ай бұрын

@@aventura8491 exactly, thats why the chess federation went a step above all this. Just reading, now, from tomorrow on, every player has to wear an alu hat (they didnt specify if provided or if players need to construct their own) to prevent reading each others minds.

@faniheyat9206 Ай бұрын

Fantastic

@Mike-mm4mx 6 ай бұрын

far more exciting than the game was the commentary

@knip-pink 7 ай бұрын

That watch though 👀

@elimlinrr6898 7 ай бұрын

To beat Magnus, all you have to do is to tattoo your wrist with a watch and witness Magnus suffer a nervous breakdown 😊

@Power-Play680 4 ай бұрын

Magnus says he’s uncomfortable with the opponents watch when he wasn’t even looking at it at all and his watch is clearly facing the way Magnus is looking 😅😂

@dunkel-zombi_fiziert-heit 7 ай бұрын

This is chess history. 🙏

@hathor1985 7 ай бұрын

The Queen is not at all provoked to move ! According to the openings database, there are 8 ways to respond; Magnus just played his Queen very early in the game: ( 5. Qc2 )( 5. Qb3 )( 5. Qa4 )( 5. b3 )( 5. e3 )( 5. Nc3 )( 5. Ne6 )( 5. Nbd2 )

@GallaghersGrub 3 ай бұрын

Well played.

@chesster423 7 ай бұрын

why does magnus keeps on standing?

@HarukiShiga 7 ай бұрын

He was considered cheating if they don't have fanboys lol.

@sifatahamed6597 7 ай бұрын

best game of the tournament

@zionsaal4419 7 ай бұрын

I dont see Magnus asking the arbiter about Suleymenovs Watch

@AhmedMohamed-qe3gs 7 ай бұрын

How many points will he lose out of his elo rate for Magnus

@biplovrajkhanikar5250 5 ай бұрын

Shoked waw what a play love you

@Saltydishes 7 ай бұрын

Hmm super ayiki

@pianissimomilano 7 ай бұрын

Why do they allow a player to wear a watch? It makes no sense. With cheating being such a big problem in the chess world already, why do organizers still choose not to enforce the easy rules? Do they think chess won't die fast enough? I'm not saying the player cheated in this case, but it is just bad policy to allow players to wear any device.

@paracletusrevelation4080 7 ай бұрын

Very true.

@nulltube2530 7 ай бұрын

A true die hard magnus still follow his false reputation what a puppet cant escape his own red pill.

@rotagbhd 7 ай бұрын

The rules allow for analog watches. If you have any problem with any rule in contest you need to address it BEFORE you participate, or do not participate in that contest.

@elimlinrr6898 7 ай бұрын

The rules say electronic devices are prohibited. Analogue watches are not electronic.

@Neomatrix8 6 ай бұрын

I think he is a robot coz so many cool moves totally flawless game

@parendrareang6273 7 ай бұрын

Samay be like " I can tell by Sagar's voice, he's been waiting this moment for decades" 😂😅

@akashrandhawa1364 Ай бұрын

Satisfaction

@user-td4zv8cl2z 4 ай бұрын

Suleymanov reminds me of alekhine, such a fantastic game,every single move done right and then the elegance and slowness 😂

@landen99 7 ай бұрын

Doesn't seem unsalvageable. pxh6 covered by bg7 covered by Knxe7 seems reasonable. Definitely an Uncomfortable position but I wouldn't have resigned yet.

@johnostensen 7 ай бұрын

nice watch

@rotagbhd 7 ай бұрын

The rules allow for analog watches. If you have any problem with any rule in contest you need to address it BEFORE you participate, or do not participate in that contest.

@fabiomassimo9273 7 ай бұрын

What a beautiful wristwatch ! And what about the electronic bracelet?

@elimlinrr6898 7 ай бұрын

2800 sugar coated goated goat losing to a 2500

@fabiomassimo9273 7 ай бұрын

The King Carlsen lost vs a chess engine. He didn't lose with a 2500 chess player ! Do you understand?@@elimlinrr6898

@marineboy1964 7 ай бұрын

It's all in the watch No watches, phones or electronics are aloud at a chess board that's official , It maybe nothing to most players but not for Magnus