"The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life." - Paul Morphy.

The general way to beat the 3rd rank defence is to move the queen further away, so that you have access to a lot more checks.

I didn't knew it was this tricky to win a qween vs rook endgame Now I don't feel that bad

I think a good idea would have been to swap places and see if Stockfish could mate you.

I love how you don’t edit out mistakes or if things don’t go well. I learn from those mistakes too

I would've just taken the draw by insufficient material 😅 saves me the absolute humiliation that would undoubtedly follow if I tried to win

Thanks for this video Nelson. It's helpful to see how you work through a problem you've never done before, as opposed to a prepared lesson. It illustrates how you think through positions and learn, which was very enlightening to me.

I love the variety of videos on this channel, it’s just one of the many things that make it great!

Oh boy, I remember how tough it was when I was studying this endgame. However, studying it helped me twice to win with a queen and once even to draw with a rook.

This one is amazingly complicated, I've looked at it on and off for more than 5 years and still it holds on to several secrets

Congratulations - it was fascinating to see the learning process of an accomplished and serious player. Great video.

Looks easy enough; only four pieces. Involves some of t he most subtle concepts of chess. Very cool!

Best way to beat Stockfish is to downclock her CPU.

2:59 you could have forked the rook and the king, therefore creating the advantage

this is one of my most haunting drawn endgames that kept me from a norm at a key moment in my life. was a humiliating draw. i'd looked down on beginner endgame books like silman's. but it's these tough beats that force you to learn things in a way that you'll never forget.

Great video!

maybe give stockfish queen and have a rook yourself and see how it wins

6:16 Mate in 1 Goes for a fork instead. Chad move, show the machine your human superiority.

Great video as always! Had a question: Will you be continuing that Proof games series?

Really an awesome and one of the most difficult endgames. It's even harder than bishop and knight checkmate for me.

This is one of the most difficult end games. I tried playing my computer this end game a few years ago and could not win against a lone rook. The irony is if black has an extra pawn it is easier to beat him, because there are no more stalemate tricks!

Two words: Derek Grimmell. When the future of civilization depends on someone solving a Queen vs. Rook problem, Derek will be on the black helicopter landing at the White House. He has a whole series of videos along with a ginormous ChessBase DB covering just this problem. I'm a crap chess player, but I've gotten obsessed with figuring this out and have spent literally hundreds of hours on it - and I haven't even finished all the Grimmell content. I found that I could (usually) solve the problem shown by Nelson, all the while muttering things like "No, form a Cage here. Ah, he's gone to a Distant Defense. Cover that checking square. Here you check adjacent to the rook's diagonal. Hah! I can form the Javelin - you are totally mine now bwahaha!" Look at the Grimmell videos, and consign yourself to the fact that Queen vs. Rook is between 10 and 100 times harder than King+Bishop+Knight vs. King.

That was a satisfying checkmate.

6:16, fork to capture the rook? Better to just go Qa4#.

17:50 Black Rh6, white Qf7 or Qf3 (Blocking Rh7+ and threatening Qf8+ with fork on rook)

I like this video because so many focus too much on the Lucena and Philidor positions. And I'm sitting here thinking that I don't know how to force them in the first place. So its nice to know its actually not easy.

i think the camp mate king rule makes endgames more intresting (if kings goes to the last rank its a win) but thats also fun

nice going!

I love your videos

2:08 you move your queen to c5

you should also try this against a human who knows the basic ideas to defend this position

The 3 hardest endgames to play. 1) King and Queen vs King and Queen. 2) King and ONE rook vs King and ONE rook 3) King and TWO rook vs King and TWO Rook.

please make a video on two knights Vs a pawn checkmate

Great!

This video makes me feel much better about this endgame. Even a GM like Nelson finds Queen vs Rook difficult.

this ending fascinates me and i'd like to learn it even if it isn't practically much usefull.. is there any course for this?

at 2:59 u could do Qg1 which will force the king to move and a free rook

In position King f6, Qb5, Rc7, Kc8 - if black goes Rc1. How can white block them in the same corner?

i once had this kind of endgame in a match and i had the rook it ended in a draw i never knew it was winnable

My very first thought at @2:22 of the video is work it like all you have is pawns and a king and you're trying to work the king into a corner work the king into a corner with your queen and your king

Chess is just like a wheel, whenever you checked his king it will move and whenever you've been checked by his rook, your king will move

3:43 actually if queen f4 check and rook blocks than queen to h2 is mate

Thanks for sharing this. The queen vs rook endgame is indeed difficult to win.

Tq man

2:07 He missed c 5 with the queen,it checks the king and if he moves it he takes the rook

Thanks a million, do you think that ,Now, you can give us some advice on how to defend with R against Q your effort is greatly appreciated.

Could've moved queen to e3 to e4 forked the rook and King took rook but I don't know if it's auto matic win as its it could be insufficient pieces so yeah missed that

You needed to use more pins. In this endgame, the opponent usually has around 4 king moves and 12 rook moves to choose from. A pin forces your opponent to choose from about 75% fewer moves.

great, now time to do 2 bishops vs knight

Very nice

6:15 QA4+ is mate, better than fork

Reading comments and realizing .. Y'all know this dude is way better than most of us put together right... the Depth .. .. . Of how crazy people are. ';..;'

See the Study of Derek Grimmel (2008) about this endgame (Queen vs Rook). There are 21 positions: Philidor, diagonal1, diagonal2, diamond, bodycheck, Euwe_turnWhites, Euwe_turnBlack, corner defence, absolute 7th, 3rd rank defence, 4th rank defence(=harasment defence), 5th rank defence (by Grigoriev), ect.

I was getting frustrated trying to figure out this endgame. Probably never will, but now I don't feel so bad.

4:15 why didn't he take the rook by the king??

18:08, he didnt move his rook to the h file cause queen d5 checks and you can figure it out from their

4:10 подскажите почему король не может срубить а просто уходит

6:16 why do you need to fork if it is mate queen a4?

If you move the queen to e4 here isnt it a fork? 2:59 if not please tell me why i cant figure it out

really good idea to have.

Endgame tablebase... Is maybe a good method from try to learn

13:30 Soundtrack - "I think I can fight with Mike Tyson"

Can you set it up as Stockfish vs. Stockfish?

i have seen the mate in two in one of the positions in your 2 game it was when your Kc6 and then Qg8# oh yeah obviously stockfish would try to stop but the game will just be longer and you would win

At 2.20 mark doesnt qh7 win the rook? Or am I seeing my own things

Playing magnus is not very easy. It always knows the best move

how do you use stockfish? what programs / software do you use? i'm really new to this

now i know how to play this

Bookmove/mistake at 0:25 Mistake at 0:34 Bookmove/ok move at 3:25

great....it's all day i'm trying.....it's no joke.......

Nice

i ran out of moves in this position recently and in my low-rated opinion the #1 priority beyond royalty survival is to bully the other king to the edge of the board so that you can checkmate, rook be damned

3:42 queen e6 to cover g4 when you move your king down sp he cant check you and then mate at the back after qe6 kf4

3.50 you should have placed the queen on E4... he had to move the king so you could take the rook...or he had to block with the rook, you could take the rook and his king couldnt take the queen or escape caus your king did protect him

at 3:02 would ke4 been a good move?

at 19:10 Kd5 would actually reach that critical position, but with Black to move instead of White.

You had a fork near the beginning

Ouch, tricky one ! Who spend his time to learn how to defend like an engine anyway...? This endgame especially get recognized as one of the hardest one since computer era. It's fun to learn, but less than the old BN mate.

Now lets do How to try to draw as a rook in this endgame

At 11:49 if you shimmy down the a,b file using a series of checks from the queen you will eventually fork the rook-lights out.

Study John Nunns chapter on the subject in Secrets of Pawnless Endings. Also, there is a course you can downlaod for free.

if he does 3rd rank defens your king cant come to square he want, then try another corner to push king into

How about do formal checkmate?

I thik at 4.05 minits on the video you have to move the king at f4, and the next move is checkmate

When I saw this I was like "wait, this is a win for white?"

at 3:00 theres a fork with the queen moving one scare up

Ah so you can just input any position by going through each row from top to bottom with number = amount of empty squares, upper-case letters = white pieces, lower-case letters = black pieces? That's cool

2:15 move queen to c5 would've been a mate in 17

2:22 missed the pinned rook

at 6:14 you have mate in 1 after ka6, I’m sure this is for learning purposes, I just found it amusing

4:11 JUST EAT ROOK!!!

At the start you could have like 3 Forks if im not dumb, but im not good at chess

At 3:47 you couldve just moved the queen to e4 forking the rook and the king. If the rook moved infront of the queen you couldve simply taken it and won

I wasted my time learning this a year ago and now I can't remember how to force the king to the corner to be able to seperate the rook and king

if at 8:05 you moved your queen down to B5, would it have been a fork?

Now: *Stockfish 16 laughing at this Stockfish 8

How can i play vs stockfish?

Did I miss something? Or was there an opportunity for a skewer at 3:04 ish

Have you done pawn and rook vs queen?

I think you should have done 30+0 just for thinking.