I completely agree with Halstead on this. His mother is not the patient, the boy is

"Tearing the family apart"? The mother is doing that just fine on her own. Her son is probably going to leave the moment he turns 18, and never speak to his mother again.

"I was always the little girl who wished I had a mom like you." She was putting her personal bias and opinions in the way of patient care without even realizing it. She saw a boy that had a doting protective parent and thought, I wish I had that as a kid, this lady can't be doing any harm, her son should be grateful.

That mother doesn't deserve the coddling. She needs to be aware her son is a person with feelings.

That Blonde doctor was such a pain really. There is nothing wrong with evaluating all the possibilities. If a doctor thinks the patient could be in potential danger, it being psychological or physical it is literally THEIR JOB to interfere! And i believe there is something they teach in Med School about maintaining their patient's freedom by making it clear what all the options are and let them decide by themselves, and as he said "Brandon's the patient, not the mom".

This show really brings to light the difficulty medical professionals have in dealing with parents who think they know better.

Halstead is completely right about this. He provided another solution (an extreme one) and the son was willing to go through with it which shows how desperate he is and how confident he is with his decision. THE MOM IS NOT THE PATIENT. The boy has the right to know his choices.

i grew up i australia and it didnt occur to me that other parts of the world dont allow you to make medical decisions at 16. ive been seeking my own care since then and parents have no right to interject on whatever decision i make from 16.

“I’m here to advocate for my patient, it’s my job. And it’s yours but you seem to have forgotten that.” 11/10

Tbf the boy deserves a choice in his condition

The guy was right in that the kid was his patient, not the mother and he only gave him options.

She's not just a helicopter parent she's a full on AH-64 Apache.

Pft. "Wished she had a mom like you". Don't encourage that sorta controlling behaviour. Get grief counselling, not drugs, mother.

3:21 - that right there is the problem … she is so wrapped up in trying to keep him from harm that that’s what is harming him in the first place to the point where she is almost infantalizing him to keep herself frozen in time

This is what happens when people treat their sick kids as projects or puzzles to be solved rather than people. Many people with complex illnesses live independent and full lives.

The boy is old enough to make his own decisions and take care of his own health.

I agree with Halstead the mum is not the patient her son is and she can’t make decisions for him

Sometimes people think they act with the best intensions and because of the purest love but when you take a deeper look at it it boils down to their own need of being loved and in control and have a purpose.

Legally, what is the age at which kids got to make their own choice in a situation like this in America? You'd think that by 17 somebody would be able to make their own choices.

Dr. Hallstead is 10000% right in this on!!! Screw the mom .. it’s Brandon’s choice !!! He’s the patient he has the right to know his options

I like how they didn't go the cartoonishly-evil route with the mother, she pushed her son to the point he would rather inflict himself with something as serious as diabetes on top of his already existing chronic illness, but they also showed that she is human and that her behavior stems from unprocessed grief over her husband's death fueling the completely understandable fear that it will happen again.

Boy deserves a new home where his safe and he don't have problems

I normally don’t agree with will but in this case he had nothing but the patients wishes in mind, this is kinda out of character since he normally just cares about the medicine instead of their wishes 😂

She's going to be a nightmare for her daughter in law

The kid's fed up with his mother controlling his life 24/7. She, or rather, THEY need counseling. Mom, to understand her son isnt made of glass and going to break any moment. The son, to process the loss of his father and his medical condition.

7:22 that line is not at all welcome in a workplace. Means she had it personal, she refused to step out of her box into the patient's, failing the oath she took.

There’s no way doctors would admit him to a trial without his assent, even with the mom’s consent

In Canada there's no stipulated age for medical consent: "There is no stipulated age of consent for treatment. A person under 18 years of age who is assessed and deemed capable of consenting to treatment (a mature minor) is allowed to make treatment decisions." So it's up to doctors to determine if the minor aged patient is capable and they can override the parents if they seemed unreasonable or are putting the child in danger. For really young kids, they'd need to talk to a judge of course.

Im 1000000% with Halstead. Mom is doing more harm than good being overbearing. I understand being scared and careful. But not letting your kid have any life whatsoever is torture for him and he will either live a life of misery or eventually rebel in order to get his life back. Its a parent job to take care of the kid, but you cant control their every move.

Parents always do that trying to squeeze the last control over their children as soon as they know they are reaching adulthood

I prefer the approach of gillick competence. If the individual has the capacity to understand what the treatment is, the consequences etc, then they are entitled to make their own decisions.

Love a person who thinks a child belongs to his parents and doesnt deserve any autonomy or choice in his own life =_= what a toxic person

Its His body

What annoys me is that they never actually ask what dosage he is on and what she gives him.

7:19 what a control freak! the mother not listening I would of shouted and give her a good listen

I stand with Dr Halstead

the son is practically legal now, he should be making his own decisions

that blonde doctor infuriated me. the kid literally poisoned himself cause he felt so desperate the mum is so controlling

Here’s the thing, if Brannon is ready to take medication to not be viable for the trial he will continue to do so or even worse if it comes down to it. The more you push Someone the more likely it is they push back. The kid and mother need counselling here so they can have an open conversation, yes the mom is looking out for her sons safety but she’s also overriding his decisions, a loss of control is what Pushed Brennons mom into managing his medication in the first place.

'I want to speak with your supervisor' It is at that moment that they knew, they were dealing with a Karen 😂.

it may not be his choice at 17, but in a year it will be his choice, and I'd be willing to bet the mother will regret her decisions.

Ummm I have addisons and only have one adrenal gland. Yes, I've had crisis's but this lady is acting like it's a death sentence....as long as I stick to my hydrocortisone doses each day all is good jeez!

No matter what the mother wants medically for her son, he can say no and there is nothing she can do. Any doctor that sides with the mother should lose their license. And the mother should lose their child.

Male doc is in the right, & Blondie is projecting. That kid was abusing medication & ready to give himself a life-altering disease on top of the one he already has to get out of a clinical trial he did not want to go through with. How is that not a Massive concern?

you won't fully understand this until you're a teen in a childs' ward and having made every descision without your input. He won't magically be different at 18. It's not a switch to flick. There needs to be a compromise for teenaged kids. Being 17 and 364 days and being 18 is the exact same. Only that one of them is granted emancipation and the other isn't

This woman was probably how Gypsy Rose Blanchard's mother was like

It’s his choice

I'm sorry but he's right! What the hell is this? supervising decision doesn't mean take complete control! It's like women united making a wrong decision... and the doctor?! Overcompensating and projecting her own bs ?!

What did the mother think was going to happen if she suddenly passed away, and her son had yet to learn how to be responsible for his own condition/medication?

Technically he is doing his job and not really interfering, like the patients need to be advices on ALL possibly solutions and that is one of them.

IF ITS A OPTION, why is it bad for him to tell the kid to get the only chance? Why witheld the information.

You can feel for both

BRANDON SHOULD NOT HAVE TO APOLOGISE! he should say "Im sorry mom. I'm sorry that you may have had parents controlling you growing up but I am 18 in less than 6months and I AM NOT going to let you control me!"

People are always so quick to judge. The world would be a much better place if we can pause for a sec and try to see situations from the perspectives of everyone involved. Ultimately all of us are biased and will take a side but at least try a bit of empathy and compromise first.

Both doctors handled separate family members well.

This is so reminiscent of My Sister’s keeper. That book was such an amazing and eye opening read. At what point do parents need to let their kids make their own decisions and call the shots about their own bodies?

BP 100 over 20? Is this even possible?

I hate how they instantly either accuse the parent or the child I spent my entire life in and out of hospital and because they didn't know what was wrong with me it was either I was making myself sick, I was overreacting to the pain or my parents where hurting me I didn't get a diagnosis until I was 23 to this day I hate going to my local hospital because even with it they still treat me like I'm lying

In the UK where I had received my treatment the age of consent, at least for medical procedures, is 16. The legal system however is often not enough. Coercion exists. Even if the patient is able to give or withdraw consent it is, in my opinion, the responsibility of the medical staff, however partially, to ensure that those rights are protected. I’ve had nurses not only standby, but side with my mother when she cried and begged and eventually bullied me into invasive surgery even though it was within my legal rights to refuse, because I had just turned 16. I did refuse, for hours on end, at which point it should’ve been the end of the discussion. It wasn’t. And the medical staff proceeded according to the wishes of the family, and not the patient despite it being perfectly clear that I was coerced into signing the consent papers. Cases like this make me angry to this day and I fucking hate these people

There is a simpler way. Get the kid to tell the trial personnel what he did. Makes him unreliable for a clinical trial and excluded

She's controlling him when he was in her uterus till now without even realising how bad and inappropriate this is. You should pass him ur opinions or thought but not always imply on them everytime!

🥺 this hit home so bad, ur ok but can’t make any decisions cos of them as if ur not ok.

2:10 he has legit points

The patient is the boy and not the family.

Tell the guy to tell the trial people what he did and why. They would not accept him anymore. To irresponsible and risk him not following instructions for the device or actively doing something to it. Much simpler.

her son is not her doll, i agree with halsted 100%

Age of medical consent is not the same everywhere. In Québec, Canada, you get to make your medical decision at 14 years old. Obviously most will listent to their parents' advice, but starting at 14 you sign your own medical forms, and can gets medical procedures without your parents being informed, being vaccines, surgery, abortion, tests, etc. So a teen with anti-vaccine parents can get his vaccination done without their consent, a teen with anti-abortion parents who got pregnant can get an abortion, a teen with Jehovah witness parents can get a blood transfusion, a teen with stage 4 cancer can choose not to get treatment, etc. But we have universal health care, so teen treatments do not need approval from parents medical insurance.

This mother has already appeared on this show as a young lady with long hair,now with short hair 🤣😂😂

In my country, who ever pay got to decide, which means parents most of the time

why in a series that LOVES to call in psyciatric every time something happens did they not do so in this case?

Honestly, Stevie seems like a pushover and I feel like she would be a similar mom if she becomes one

6:19 six months later he’s 18 😂

dude's old enough to make decisions, people with illnesses deserve to move away from their parents

Get the shrinks ASAP.

This mother reminds me so much of my own, controlling narcissist of a mother....

Okay some nuanced info so Brandon overdosed himself because he doesn’t want to go on a trial so upped his own dosage hoping to improve his health. The bigger issue his mom is smothering him and he wants to go to school in London the reason she wants him to go on trial is he has to stay if he did.

It was his dream to go to college in London

BP 100/20... boy that doesn't even make sense. It's physically not possible. I can't watch these medical shows a RN 😅

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The son should be handling his own medication instead of his bulling mother

Omg isn't this the same woman that had an affair with Dr Rhodes and he noticed something was wrong with her heart and brought her in?

Classic example of a Helicopter Mum!

The boy is the patient not the mother will did have the patents best interest especially since the patient is turning 18 in 6 months

Was the mom already on the show as dr Rhoades's one night stand with heart problems? The one that cheated on her husband?

she proves her bias at the end talking about wanting a mom like her. gg ez

Medical decisions for treatment and participating in research are very different in terms of consent. Maybe something's different in the US, but where I live participating in clinical research must be completely voluntary and informed, even if she can legally make normal medical decisions until he's 18.

4:44 why is she less concerned about the patient and mroe concerned wiht defending controlling behavuor? 7:37 his mother is nNOT THE PATIENT. theyre supposed to care abput the patient npt the controlling person whose the reason the aptient is in that hospitla in the first place if people are judging her, its because she deserves to be judged

So glad to live in a place with a mature minor law..

Why didn't they check to make sure the prescriptions were right

bugs me that people who envy this situation can't see the abuse of it. it's controlling and objective. it treats the child like an object and incapable of reason- robbing them of their autonomy. yes there are upsides to it- the love and affection and care- but there are also upsides to a "hands off" approach. the ability to discover who you are without interference and the freedom to grow. to make relationships and choices without being denied the capability of even making that choice.

if house was here, this conversation will be ending less than 1 minute

3:48 ok Karen

What I don't understand is why he can't say it to the clinical trial doctor... I don't know for the USA laws, but in France, any person can say no to a clinical trial, at any stage of the process. Even minors and parents don't have a say if the child don't want to do it and is capable of telling to the clinical trial team.

I love Chicago med

The blonde doctor was really unprofessional. It's her responsibility to keep the patient safe and healthy so they need to explore every possibility. Just because they could upset the mom doesn't mean they need to enable her. Her mommy-issues shouldn't interfere with her job, her empathy, worry and care should go towards her patient and not the mom.

Tbf Halstead gave the kid a viable option to change his circumstances that didn't involve poisoning himself, ie preventing him from harming himself and thus needing further treatment. Seems like a good call from a medical standpoint.

Does anybody else stop and look up all the medical terms they don't know? 😂

"I want to speak to your supervisor." Karen, this is a hospital, not a TacoBell...

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Halstead's right to advocate for the boy but everyone's vilifying the female doctor and the mom like they did something wrong. The female doctor managed to get the mom to understand and agree to her son going to London. Which I'm sure the kid would prefer much more than being emancipated and estranged from his mom, because he does seem to love her and understand she loves him. The mom also wasn't unreasonable, she was just a terrified parent who needed councelling. Halstead could've approaching the situation with more empathy.