My cousin, who was one of my best friends, died from sepsis. All of her organs shut down, besides her heart. Vegetable. Her mom pulled her from life support knowing she was never going to come back to us really... The doctor explained to us, with a few tears in his eyes, that he considered the heart the dumbest part of your body. Her body was never going to live again, but her heart just kept on pumping. RIP white butterfly.

To be fair it's their legal obligation to recessiate if the guardians request it. The guy not recessiating the child in the first scene was against the law even if he disagrees with the request you need the court order or permission. Those restrictions are in place for good reason.

i know the decision to take him off life support was the merciful thing to do, but i teared up when the father said "over my dead body" even though his child was practically braindead he refused to give up

Brutal. No parent should have to bury their child

I hate how they portrayed the court system here (I don't know if there is more detail in the full episode?). When the UK high court makes this sort of ruling, there is a full trial with the parents, specialists, doctors and a committee of people who make the final call. It isn't quick either; it is a slow laborious process that can drag on for months.

Inlaw's of mine were rich enough to keep their daughter on life support for over a decade (this was some years ago). Her shrunken shrivelled body was almost unrecognizable as human when the organs finally gave out. The poor dear had passed away years ago but the parents could not let go. How cruel.

A wise man once said, "you cannot base every decision on emotion however you cannot make every decision without it." I believe both parties believed they had the child's best interest at state however the plain and simple truth is that this child had no means of recovery. He would never be the same boy he was once before, artificial life support is not without it's inherit risks. In the end, I believe it was best to terminate care as to not prolong this child's suffering any further.

While I cannot imagine how gut wrenching and painful this is for his parents. It is so wrong and horrible to keep someone on life support in a vegetative state. Someone who has already died kept on machines. Nobody should ever be allowed to treat someone like this.

Knowing what I know now having had my daughter at 23 weeks and with life limiting illness we fought to have her given everything possible and she was ventilated and spent 4 long months in intensive care and it kills me everyday when we realised that she had hours left we had put her through operations on her heart we put her through painful medical interventions and now looking back I hate my self for allowing her to go through all of that with 10% chance of survival I wish that we had just given her palitive care and not intensive care no I do not. Regret the 4 beautiful but heartbroken months spent beside her day and night seeing her open her eyes for first time 29 days later holding her for the first time the smile she had even through she was in pain I don’t regret having her but I do regret putting through all of what she went through in terms of prolonging her life for our own feelings and not fully understanding what was going to happen in the 4 months we made memories that we hold tight to she passed away peacefully in my arms surrounded by love and she was no longer a baby of earth but a baby of heaven who now forever runs and plays in the gardens of paradise till we reunite again soon

"why did you save him?" Lady you were practically asking her too.

New Amsterdam we need new seasons of your show please.

Nobody wants to suffer months of prolonged agony under life support when the end inevitable or the mind is no longer there yet we're so keen to throw this fate at our loved ones.

I think this just needs to be worded correctly. “Yes there’s a 1 in a billion chance he might recover. However there’s a greater chance, based on how human quantify quality of life, and considering the possible spirituality aspect, that you as his parents, for the billion, are condemning him to torturous sort of purgatory. He could also be feeling nothing, but if that’s true you’re wrong, and you’re keeping his shell alive. The real question is “is that one in a billion chance he might wake up (this not accounting for if he wakes up ‘ok’) worth the greater chance that you are prolonging his suffering here on earth?”

You can't shock Asystole, you do your hands only CPR, push that Epi, and make sure you have adequate ventilation to that patient. That's the only thing you can do in that case. I know its a show, but really?

This happened to my friend on may 4 2023 not exactly but kinda but I know he’s in a better place, in heaven riding his four wheeler

There's a difference between being on life support for temporary support and life support with no brain function. My mom had two strokes and had Brain function but she never wanted to go on life support not even for temporary reasons

Seeing that episodes take your son off of life support what's the hardest thing they have to do I hope I do not have to face that because I won't be able to handle it😢

Their boy was already dead. She simply made it even more horrible and hard to accept.

It’s absolutely inhumane to keep anyone alive on life support with 0 chance of recovery and life. I know I wouldn’t want to be left like that if that happened to me. Edit: thanks for the likes 😊

I'm all for hoping for a miracle but even I know when you're brain dead there's no hope. I have two small kids and pray to never have to be in a situation like that.

This is horrifying. The fact that the government can make that call? Absolutely horrifying.

Impossible to be upset at the NHS "calling it" on this kid... after they've funded the kid's treatment up to this point. What this clip doesn't discuss is the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, in medical bills the parents would have incurred in the United States. Their lives completely ruined, to watch their son lay in a bed and most likely never actually wake up.

As much as I appreciate the sentiment of others “helping you out” when dealing with a difficult decision, I don’t think the government should have this power over what you choose to do (medically) with your child. At least not to the extent of denying them life because they deem it’s best this way. Either way one party or the other is taking a chance and no choice is “the perfect or right choice”, it never is that black and white. Although in most cases I know it wouldn’t be this easy to just come to a conclusion and enforce it the next day (as someone else pointed out, you would have a trial with the parents, doctors, specialists, etc) it still rubs me the wrong way that this is in fact a power the government has over a person just because they are a citizen of X. What one considers cruel somebody else will consider worth the effort. And so so many things will influence our decision: our personal experience, whether one is a doctor or not, the doctor’s experience with such a case, whether you’re a parent or not, how empathic one is, how removed from the situation one is, how their view on life and quality of life is, and such a big and extensive etcetera. Let people make their choices. Also, doctors are very often wrong, not saying that this is the case, but there’s been plenty of instances in which so called specialists have been wrong, so I will always advocate for a person having the right to choose what they deem best for themselves and their children. You can advise and try to make your case if you feel their choice is wrong for whatever reason, but just deciding for them to force your decision is not okey.

Is his based on the real UK story of the child Alfie?

My cousin had to make the decision to pull the cord, as they say, on her dad and they did it and my uncle, her dad, woke up and lived another five years. He died of a massive heart attack, but in those five years he traveled. He just never know what’s going to happen. I think it should be a parents decision, when a child is concerned to take them off life support not someone else that doesn’t even work in the medical field. Could you imagine if that boy ended up in New Amsterdam and somehow woke up/was better through a medical regiment that they didn’t use in Britain but in the US they had clinical trials saying that certain medicine could help this condition, but because there’s a court order that life-support had to be removed, they wouldn’t let them leave the country. How smart would that be? Like I always say they fight and tooth only when it’s one of their own, but when it’s not one of their own, they could care less.

I can't imagine what they're feeling, but I dont think I can force my child in that situation. It's pure torture honestly.

You cant shock asystoly, wouldnt do anything, flatline means CPR and Suprarenin until regain of shockable rythm.

Even a working mind & beating heart together are not enough to give life. The boy didn’t even have that much. His soul-his true core-was long since gone. This needed to happen.

So Sharpe gave those parents false hope

For all of you saying that he was just an empty shell and the parents should have just let him go. That they were 6:11 being so Selfish. So you all would just say " hey its fine, unplug my child from Life Support. No big deal." Nobody knows what they would say or do in a Situation. No matter what you all are saying, you can't say 100% that you would not do the same as these Parents did. If you thought that there was a chance of your child waking up and coming back to you.

I don't understand what law is this?

That is definitely inhumane. If that was me I would want them to pull the plug asap

The female doctor is being absolutely ridiculous.

I think they shouldn't have to go through that if they paying hospital fees and that what they want i think you should give the parent the right to say when they dont want to keep watching him suffer.

Personally if there is an DNR on someone then then the staff have the duty to honor it. After that ppint they're not being ethical, they're playing god with people's lives.

The boys soul had left his body long ago. His body was basically just an empty shell. There was no hope of recovery. PERIOD. His parents had to accept that fact and let him go.

The government was in the right. Parents weren't rational and just prolonging pain.

A stopped heart cant be restarted... Y they keep peddling this lie idk.... Only an arrhythmic heart can be briught back ti rhythm... Once the heart stops its over... Its gone.

The why did you bring him back? Idk. A lawsuit from the parents perhaps?

Brain death means that the person is gone and there is no coming back from that. Not sure why they made everyone else look like the bad guys without any sympathy.

Wanna hear a joke? The system works

Semi vegetative?

Lmfao they're shocking asystole.

The government SHOULD be able to step in, in cases like this. Parents treating their children so cruelly and inhumanely should not be allowed.

Good on the government for doing the right thing when the parents were too cowardly to do so. Thank you 🙏

Restarting his heart was the wrong thing to do and made everything 10x worse

I don’t care. If the court doesn’t agree The government cannot decide when a family Hass to give up on their family member, if they don’t wanna give up hope and they believe that one day their family member will wake up and they’re hoping for a miracle and they decide to keep their family member on life-support for two years but then realize that they are better off off life support then it took them two years to realize it but you can’t force somebody to make that decision they have to come to the decision on their own I have never been in this position God for bid any of my family members were in a coma and brain dead I would probably do what these parents were doing I would want to keep them on life-support and just hold onto the hope that maybe one day they would wake up even though my rational brain tells me it’s impossible my emotional brain would not be willing to let go just yet and it might take me some time to realize hey it is time to let them go the fact that this government is literally forcing them to unplug their kid before they’re ready is disgusting if the child is brain dead then he’s not really feeling any pain it’s scientifically proven that if you’re brain dead you don’t feel pain so realistically it’s not inhumane or unjust to the kid but what they’re doing is taking away time for family to process loss which is very harmful in the end I have never even heard of this kind of law But it disgusts me that it exists every family has a different amount of time that it takes to process grief and loss some families might realize three hours after the doctors told him that there’s no chance of them waking up that it’s better to unplug them. Some families might take a year. Some might even take longer than that, but everybody has their own amount of time it takes to realize that unplugging them is the best thing to do. The thing is, you cannot force them to make the decision

What is more moral, to peacefully end their suffering or keep them alive but functionally dead?

Obviously this is based on the Alfie Evans case… but in that case, the parents were represented in the court, too. Don’t the parents have the right to be heard in court before ‘the government’ gets their court order? 🤷‍♀️

Could you please correct the misleading word "painkillers" in the previous post, Bloom wasn't addicted to painkillers. p.s. love the show

The woman doctor should lose her medical license. All she did was let her emotions overpower her responsibility as a physician to do what was right for the patient and in the course she tortured the parents even more. Shame on her.

Is this an actual law in the UK?

Personally, I hope the parents sue the British government. I know I would.

Amazing how selfish some people are, put yourself in the patients place

If there is no brain function then there is no hope. PERIOD.

this pos doctor he did this gladly

I have to wonder how they would react if that father start taking retribution against those directly responsible for the order to remove his child from lifesupport?

UK law is crazy.

i feel like people should be allowed 6 months from the time their loved one was diagnosed as brain dead to come to terms with what has happened and say goodbye. 6 months is a reasonable amount of time to allow someone to be kept on life support without it being cruel and it gives the loved ones a timeline for how long they are allowed to keep the body alive.

Its inhuman absolutely, but i get the parents longing to keep the child alive also. Selfish?? Absolutely!! but i get it❤

The poor kid was gone a long time ago.

even though i disagree with the parents decision, the government shouldn’t have a say in that

If the UK can actually do that, whoever is a citizen does not need enemies, the government is already there to play this role

Nobody with an ounce of actual experience of working in a hospital environment could fail to see all the inaccuracies in these scenes. I know it's only a TV show but it completely ruins any sense of immersion.

Sharpe and the parents were wrong. That is not a child, that is a hollow, empty shell. It is devoid of humanity. To prolong the suffering of it is the peak of cruelty.

They're keeping alive, and I know this is horrible to say, a lump of meat. The poor kid had no chance of recovery, his mind was gone, he was already dead.

They made them so posh British it's actually laughable. I've not heard anyone call someone "mam" well ever, in real life! 😅 Also our police cars don't sound like that.

To take that choice away is unbelievable!!

Ik that 1. It’s a show 2. It’s for the best 3. Inhumane to keep someone like that But something about seeing like ten cops show up to ensure a kid dies doesn’t sit right with me.

This is absolutely criminal. It’s their child, and they should be allowed to make the call. No should be able to order them to do this. That’s straight up wrong.

No government should be allowed to end a child's life agaisnt the parents' wishes. PERIOD.

At this point, the welfare of the child is not as strong as the welfare of the parents, no? He's gone, we know he's gone - so why in gods name make this so difficult for his parents?

If the man standing in front of the ambulance had been struck dead that would have been right. He was in process of committing murder.

And that right there is why Americans fought so hard against Socialized Healthcare. 😢

No government has the right. Looks like yourube removed Comments.

The law, sir, is euthanasia. In this rare case I prefer the US System.

This is why one must take custody of their child from the government after birth. Situations like these are so hard.

Unfortunately due to free healthcare, I can say I am sad but not surprised to see this happen.

This is what happens when you have a corrupt government running the show.

Its sick the government can have that much control. If im paying the hospital bill and its my child “over my dead body” is what i would say to