I can’t help but think of that episode of House with Ricky Ullman and Jurnee Smollett portraying a married couple that end up finding out that they share the same father. They lived next door growing up I think and also the dad was always against them dating which the couple assumed was because of racism but in reality it’s because they were siblings.

Him: we have problems in bed and we argue Her: don't listen to him, doctor. He's an idiot. Problem is we're siblings.

He is supposed to be a neutral party as a therapist. Completely unbiased. He cannot tell them what to do, but he can ethically make them aware of the legal consequences of their future marriage as well as the biological consequences if they were to have children. From there, it’s completely up to the patients on where they want to go from there.

This reminded me of a story I heard. A couple was planning on getting married and both their parents met for the first time. If I remember correctly, the mom of the bride and the father of the groom start an affair with each other, both divorce their partners and got married to each other. But here's the real kicker, after they did all that they then told their kids that they can't get married anymore because now they are step siblings.

If I met somebody in college (same age), who was from the same small town, and also conceived by anonymous sperm donor... pretty sure I would have checked for this long before being 9 years into the relationship and about to be married. "I was conceived by anonymous sperm donor", "oh me too" seems like a conversation you have within the first couple months of dating because it comes up when you ask about their parents.

Their entire relationship, he didn't know this information either, which means that the Chris she knew then could only be the "real" Chris. That hasn't changed. She was not romanced by her half-brother, whom she's only known existed for weeks, she was romanced by the man she'd loved since they were kids.

I am going to go ahead and also point out that there's a town in Sweden that had to ban a man from donating because of this problem.

I’m guess that in a town of 8,000 people, the odds of 2 people having similar DNA, tell me that the doctor in charge of the IVF, is the sperm donor. 😂

Who gets a DNA test kit for a wedding gift?? And why open it before the big day?

Wonder how many times this situation happened before we had DNA testing? This doesn't feel wrong to me in the same way as half siblings who grew up together would.

ok so here's the thing with this: they didn't know they were siblings until the test; they fell in love with each other because of who the other person is, not because of being siblings or having some incest weird thing. Honestly, as long as they never had kids, due to the biological implications and issues that could occur, i don't morally or ethically see a problem with them staying together. Had one of them been aware of the situation before, or there were kids involved, it would be completely different and wrong due to the scientific aspects of the issue along with morally wrong of the partner who was aware to keep the information hidden. now if one of them is uncomfortable staying together going forward, then the other should not push them to stay together, and should support the other with their decisions, as that is what love is about: accepting your partner and respecting their beliefs and feelings towards subjects when it does not cause harm to others or themselves.

Not to side with incest here but I understand. They’re not family in the traditional sense they didn’t grow up together, they didn’t have those sibling moments they didn’t meet until they were basically adults. But at the same time it would be weird knowing technically you’re siblings.

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Dang that's a hard call. Not to be able to have his baby. To know he is your brother...half or whole...eek.

THIS IS WHY THE PARENTS SHOULD ALWAYS BE TOLD WHO THE DONOR IS IF THERE PLANNING ON TELLING THERE KIDS A POPULATION OF 8000 THE SAME MEN DONATE IT HAPPENS I GET THE MEN WANT TO STAY ANOMOUS BUT THE KIDS NEED TO NO THERE DNA SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN...... IF THEY LOVE EACHOTHER GET MARRIED

Your my sister oh your my sister! " if you know you know" 😂

I feel that there is no real right or wrong answer in this situation. They don’t have that sibling or familial bond. Both are correct in wanting to continue the relationship and not know how if they can. Legally speaking they wouldn’t get in trouble since they were test tube babies and there aren’t any legal documents connecting them outside the sperm bank’s coded identifier of the chosen donor’s sperm.

3:17 I'm with her on this. There is no marrying each ther after finding out you're siblings. Also is Iggy seriously encouraging that they continue with the wedding?

I couldn’t proceed with the wedding. Can’t ever touch him again knowing that’s my damn brother. It’s disgusting.

I’m with her. Love isn’t enough and it definitely isn’t enough in this case. Actually, if I was her, I would be creeped out that my brother still wants to get married

Imo obviously the relationship is biologically wrong but if they dont have kids that's a non issue. So that leaves the moral issues which for me, its about growing up with thwm as a sibling, in the house episode with this same situation Foreman said it best. They didnt grow up taking baths together or changing each others diapers. They grew up and they met just like any two unrelated people. And they didnt know until after they developed that relationship. Imo if you didnt know it was incest before you started the relationship its not morally wrong, its only wrong if you hsve kids bc thats not fair to the kids.

Is this new Amsterdam or the Targaryen's

Where are all the Alabama jokes?

Oh my goodness

Unfortunately, ignorance of the law is no excuse in the eyes of the justice system. Imagine their kids or other decendants down the line take a DNA test and find out there was brother/sister incest in the family tree. It would be shocking, horrifying, and worse to whomever found out more than likely. Though Iggy did say they should never, ever, have biological kids people are just not smart when it comes to that. Would've been more compelling if they already had a child.

I think this probably far more common than anyone realizes I just found out this year that my grandparents are like 13th long distant cousins and ya it is a bit weird but they also didn't find this out till years after they got married and had kids just cuz technology wasn't the same as it is now. This case isn't black and white and he does say they shouldn't have biological kids with each other but I mean they could adopt or foster or they could have an egg donor/ surrogate I doubt they'd go the route of a sperm donor just cuz that's what caused all these problems to begin with. Just cuz you share DNA doesn't mean your family just means you share blood. Some family is chosen.

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I don’t understand how, ethically, Iggy can try to counsel a couple that found this out. If they’re related then he can’t vie to have them continue being a couple.

The important thing is they can’t and/or shouldn’t have biological children, and there are ways to prevent from ever happening. The idea of a brother and sister being yknow, together would seem disgusting to you. But I would never say or think that. I just think it will make everyone else around them very uncomfortable and disgusted and I want to be the man who doesn’t care what everyone else thinks or says

Jim, I needed this. Thank you so much for sharing

House already did this episode but better. But I guess everything's been done...

Why would a doctor, or anyone, encourage a brother and sister to marry each other? I love my husband far more than I ever thought possible but if I found out we were siblings that would be the end of the marriage. You don't marry siblings, plain and simple.

Here’s a clip from whenever they did it on House with Jurnee Smollett and Ricky Ullman portraying a couple that find out they share the same father. Link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8tzrL11ydnJgIU.html

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nope...nopety nope nope...you get as much money back as you can when you cancel and you both get into therapy for finding out you are related and you also do a second DNA test through a much more reputable source to double check that. If it's found that you aren't actually related, elope and question the uncle after.

I feel like every clip of this show that I see is just a remake of other medical drama shows lmao

Finding out your S/O is your 4th cousin is one thing. Half brother? 🤮 Nope, sorry, I'm out.

This is the downside to closed adoptions and sperm donation

Now see, this is one reason why they used to require blood tests to get married 😂

I think this is the first time in my life I dont have a opinion

We are all connected to each other.. all of us are on a giant Island we can't leave.. we all bleed the same color.. we are in a circle in a hoop That Never Ends..

They’re really father and daughter!

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This is a facinating issue. One one hand we have incest begotten due to ignorance, and on the oher is a lesser life potentially alone or with someone lesser (it seems that the love these two have for each other is rare). There is no good answer, though I think the rigth answer is the latter. Unfortunately, this kind of thing is a real issue these days, especailly due to unscrupulous donor clinics that abuse a single donor or a small pool of donors (laws usually restirct donations to like 10 kids or something - its different everywhere - but some places will use the same donor for a 100 kids). Strangely enough, cases of siblings dating are FAR more common than one would expect, even in larger cities. The hypothesis going around is that people are generally attracted to those who are genetically similar to themselves (which usually presents as similar characteristics) in order for our genes to have the highest chances of being passed on. I find the evidence somewhat compelling, but not quite enough to convince me that it should be a theory: see the countless people who are into people of other ethnicites (who would be much more different - though not significantly - genetically). Much of the issue with incest (though not all of it) is due to teh issue of chidlren. Those kids have a significannly high chance of being born with defects due to any harmful reccessive alleles the closely related parents carry. Would their relationship be ok if they never have biolgical children? What if both or one of them were to get vascectomy or hysterectomy to prevent kids? I feel bad for these two people who clearly belong together, but probably shouldn't. I would like to mention that incest to the degree thatt hese two are doing is illegal in the US - the doctor sould NOT be trying to get them to normalize thier crime...

Did this man just counsel incest?!

Kids are still viable between siblings. Its the several generations of inbreeding that leads to complications. A child may recieve some bad gene pairs. But as this is the first generation, there aren't enough bad genes to cascade into health problems. Would likely show a higher than normal degree of the physical features of familiy

I think the relative who sent the dna kit knew they were half siblings

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Honestly as long as their children or their parents weren't closely related then their children should be fine. Full siblings have had children before that are ok. It's definitetly rare but while the chance of gene mutations is higher its not really that horrible.

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😢no no no!!!

I don’t know if you know this but I have a friend who is a nurse and and she she is a a nurse nurse and she is a nurse practitioner she has been in in the the hospital hospital for a a while and she she is is a nurse and she she was was the the

Maybe this is my bias because I have a sister, but nah man, once you know you’re related you gotta get outta that it’s not ok this is wild 😂😂😂😂 like listen I get the point being made but bro that’s not your cousin my g like y’all are biologically brother and sister it’s just not the move

I personally don't think they should be together

Nope.

Break up. Easy as that. Emotionally it would be hard but your related by blood.

What was the purpose when they were talking about DNA? They still have the same dad! Seemed like Frome gave more reason to be togthan him being neutral.

Therapist are supposed to help and advise, the best advice is to end their relationship and not try to help fix incest, because they might end up having children, possibly unintentionally, who are sick and deformed

A DNA kit for an early wedding gift?

It's illegal in all 50 states to marry a sibling or even a half sibling. What is that therapist thinking?

I say, if you have love like that, get married. Just don't have children. Love like that only comes only once or twice in a lifetime. There's no reason why it couldn't work.

um, forgive me, but doesn't the effects from inbreeding start well after the 1st generation? They are only half siblings. If they are both free of genetic health problems, the risk of problems in their offspring is practically the same as everyone else. (genetics fascinate me). Look at any royal family tree. Most of them were full siblings from the start and just kept going until they were literally infertile or "incompatible with life". The scenario in this clip probably plays out in the world ALOT. DNA kits are new and the only way to know.

What the hell? This shrink is telling these two to lie about who they are? Relationships based on lies can’t last.

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He basically forced them to be together .

Nope!

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What I'm wondering is, why doesn't this happen more often with sperm donors? And why haven't they thought of some way of preventing it?

Isn’t it possible the reason they are so compatible and connected is bc biologically brother and sister. Remember Luke and Leah in Star Wars? Just saying …. there are different forms of love. Maybe the love they should have explored was siblings not matrimony which involves sexual love with a sibling.

This therapist gotten his d doctorate from at the side of a cereal box. He's pretty manipulative and is on the side of the man from the get go instead of being a mediator and unbiased person. He totally ignored the women's feelings and her inner turmoil...

There is no rational reason to be against this relationship if they never have children. The risk of inbreeding is the reason our brains don't like it, but if we remove that risk the fear and disgust becomes purely irrational in this case. If they grew up together, the story would be different for a variety of reasons.

I would call off the wedding 💒 Eww

Very disturbing

Ew

Umm...are we really justifying incest here? It's wrong in every way. Period. Can't blame the couple for being together without knowing, but once they do then they should stop! I'm distributing by the amount of people in the comments saying what's so wrong about continuing their relationship as long as they don't have kid?!

are we supposed to root for them because ABSOLUTELY NOT

Eww sorry but no

It's a hard case as they're biologically half-siblings but they did not grew up together, did not know of each other's existence till they were adults. It's still weird to know that y'all are biologically related Now alot of problems that are brought up in the comments are deformity of future children, in cases like these it won't cause any problems a problem only arise after a long line of inbreeding, maybe 3/4 generations in varies sometimes but if it's just 1 usually it's fine Would i personally do it, I don't know it's certainly weird but maybe love prevails who knows

Or maybe they were attracted to each other because they are siblings. I get they did not choose the relationship but once they´re in the know it´s a NO. As if there aren´t countless men and women that aren´t related. Because, let´s change the fact that they´re half siblings. Imagine if this couple was made up of a son and a mother that gave her son for adoption and, unknowingly until a DNA test and found out. Would the doctor encourage the relationship the same way?

I’m pretty sure this also happened in the Netflix show called New Amsterdam. Dr Renaldos (something like that) found it during a surgery too

Isn't there a medical consultant who advises the show's writers? It is ok for persons who are both related to the same half-sibling but not to each other to marry and have children. However, a man and woman with one parent in common shoul not be married, frankly, even if it is legal, and should definitely not have biological children together.

I think the most important part here to remember is they dont have the same father, but same sperm donor

Had to go here cause i just watched this episode cause it really bothered me. I like this Dr. But disagree with his decision here. He didn't listen to what the girl said, and sided with the guy. He low-key convinced them to stay together despite being biologically related. It's just a no for me. It's just gross to think i would marry my brother, i wouldn't even date any cousin.

I could not. Hell Nah

ew ew ew wtf

It’s disgusting that’s he’s fighting so hard to encourage incest. That’s absolutely disgusting they are brother and sister

He's a terrible therapist. He's fine things like help psychopaths and now promoting incest, he should have his license revoked

Why can't they have kids

Sorry but noooooo

I wonder if the fact that this case has been shown in at least 2 very popular shows until now (this and doctor house) is a sign that this kind of behavior is being encouraged and normalized to people. The real fear is that there might even be in the future a new minority “Protected” class for people who would lean this way and accept it, so much that there might be a change in the laws of some countries, and that this is the way to prepare for that.🤮🤔

The doctor clearly got his degree from Temu 😢

Marrying siblings is morally wrong even if you didn't grow up together. It's 100% natural to feel a strong connection to your sibling which is probably what drew them together in the first place. It is not their fault that they became the best of friends(as some siblings do) and then fell in love. Had they known sooner, they would have become best friends but not lovers. That disgust that she currently feels is the same disgust that prevents siblings from ever crossing the line with each other. It is 100% natural to feel that way towards your sibling. Doc needs to back off and let nature take its course. They should call off the wedding. Get counseling to overcome this ordeal and then move on to find other people to spend their lives with. The difference being that they can still be best friends because they are siblings. At this point they are just manipulating the woman into staying in a relationship that she has clearly stated she no longer wants to be in.

Why is this dude encouraging them ? Seriously though, its incest 😅 what was he thinking 🤔

I’m sorry but I can’t stand how the therapist and the fiancé are. Like the woman is correct in her feelings! Their mothers should’ve given them more info about the donors, but it’s also completely valid for her to want to end things. It doesn’t matter if they don’t have children, it is still wrong on so many levels. The guy needs to see that this is just nasty. You didn’t fall in love as siblings, sure, but you’ll always know. And I don’t know about anyone else, but the thought of being physically with anyone sharing a relation to me makes me wanna vomit.

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Nope!!!!!!!!!!!! By, see you at the family reunion!

Gee an new original storyline again. So many copied storylines on this show. It's getting old.

How I see it, they're not really family. I see nothing wrong with their relationship just because they share some DNA. But I understand that is something that goes against a lot of people's core beliefs. And because of that, I think he should let her go.