We heard

Whats the difference??

Yes you are right most of the sam has active rf seekers who track the jets in terminal phase and pridect a possible interception point and intercep

If radar guided sam miss his interception point then most of the time ⌚ they are useless in the bvr most of the time you can evade the missel if missel lose his energy if you not able to jam the sam and if missel has sufficient energy most of the time sam will hit the target 🎯

Bro its just a movie its obviously fake for the viewers entertainment

Same in Top Gun 2

ir missiles also intercept the target .

shoulda used chaff

chaff interupts radar flare is for heats

But chaff does, it's anti radar

Zhang Gun

It’s Bottom Gun 😅

Elevated firearm

Top gun is the same, bro got hit with like 27 missile and flare it like nothing

This is High Altitude Cannon

It's a damn movie 🤷

It’s Chinese propaganda

@@analex4044 mfw:Top gun logic

@@analex4044 same to US

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The Chinese aircraft was designed to be evade because they can turn faster compared to American aircraft only have the ability to U turn and take multiple turns to climb

😂

@@Mark_nobody3 LOL. These are Chinese purchased Su-27's from Russia. They're not Chinese-made aircraft. These J-11A's are Russian Su-27SK aircraft assembled with China using Russian kits. The only thing Chinese about these jets is their designation to "J-11A".

they are not humans lol, no Gravity effect on them at all!

​@@Mark_nobody3 yeah but there's a person in there all the pressure gonna mess him up

That is why US uses decoys and stealth approach to engaging in combat space.

@@bighands69 Stealth is Useless Against Modern Radar, China is Detecting US Navy F-35s All the Time at Great Ranges With Those New Powerfull Radars...

But the missile here is much slower than the real deal.

More like hitting the missile with a hammer

Movie name

The SA 6 was clearly from the Ace Combat universe.

It’s just an su27

0:41 It says *chaff*/flares as well. Chaff can throw off radar SAMs, so point B is kinda redundant

​@@cristobalalvarez5491 J-11 is derived from the Su-27

4 indito állvány van ,tehát 4 rakéta is indulhat egy idöben. KUB rendszeren szolgáltam a hadseregben.

The SA-6 can only engage one aircraft at a time, but it can guide two missile at that single target.

Actually the U-2 was shot down by an SA-2 guideline. This is a smaller missile SA-6 Gainful. It gained prominence during the Yom Kippur War alongwith the Shilka and the anti-tank Sagger.

Imagine S-400s.

Yeah like u2 spy plane of u.s

@@eliasziad7864 S-400s I believe aren’t the kinds of SAMs you use in these situations.

​@@eliasziad7864 doesn't work

Yes but then you can't have a dramatic chase scene.

movie logic

You're wrong, two reasons: 1)THAT is a Russian 2K12 Kub system, firing the 3M9M4 missile. This missile contains ONLY 67 Kg of fuel, which gives this missile a run time of ONLY 20 seconds (this obviously doesn't count the burn time of the initial rocket). The booster rocket itself has a burn time of 3-4 seconds, so, this missile has a total run time of 24 seconds (which you can see from Polish launches of this missile as "SA-6" on youtube). HOWEVER, this movie scene gives a much longer run time for the missile. THEREFORE, if you wanted to be realistic, the missile wouldn't have reached the jet ANYWAY. 2) the speed of the 3M9M4 is Mach 2.8, the speed of a J-11A is Mach 2.35 (yeah). There's really not a big difference, and if the initial distance was significant, the J-11A would have outrun that missile anyway.

@@terryadams2652 You see the problem is the missile reaches M 2.8 almost instantly while the J-11A only passed Mach 1 in the scene(vapor cloud). The missile would have hit.

​@@terryadams2652Do not dare to comment if you have never been a PILOT with 2,456 hours of flight in Iraq, and Afghanistan, are we clear mother fuqer? 😊 You know NOTHING but online preference and buIIshits with movies and knowledge from vloggers!! U stpid fuq lDlOT!!

They are definitely faster than any maneuvering jet.

Top gun maverick got that mistake too, why you not mad about it?

@@experiementalchannel1031 top gun never showed them outrunning the missiles. Just dodging them.

Faster than any. There is No need for "almost"

@@experiementalchannel1031 i haven’t watch top gun maverick, i wouldn’t know

It looks cool

Chaff doesn't look good on camera

0:41 It says *chaff*/flares as well. Chaff can throw off radar SAMs, so the point of flares being useless is redundant, when chaff is also being used (literally stated by film captions)

Chaff's are generally almost invisible on cameras unlike flares

@@kotm2021he said chaff flairs only to look smarter, but they weren’t actually chaff flares

Bro this clip took by that movie and edited it perfectly , this clip is same

@@hr_desi_ridernah

@@hr_desi_rider And by your faulty logic, top gun 2 took this and edit it, especially with the mountain scene. Use your eyes...

What movie is this from, folks!?

Behind Enemy Lines is based on a true event, in Bosnia during the war, an F16 plane with a Yugoslav system of Soviet production 2k12 buk was destroyed

chinese propaganda film

@@cnm7558 why do you think that? are you racist?

@@alanOHALAN YES.

You got to blame "Behind Enemy Lines". They were the ones who started this trope.

0:41 It says *chaff*/flares as well. Chaff can throw off radar SAMs, so the point of flares being useless is redundant, when chaff is also being used (literally stated by film captions)

0:41 It says *chaff*/flares as well. Chaff can throw off radar SAMs, so the point of flares being useless is redundant, when chaff is also being used (literally stated by film captions)

The SA-6 uses Radar guidance. The Radar illuminates the target for the missile’s receiver/antenna.

Whats he doing here lol

Right? It's even bigger than plane.

It's a movie, dude

Vodka effect

1:35, the missile was catching up, so it is NOT "outrun" watch it again...

@kumudini bhattar more like 6g with gsuit considering this scene is based off of a real event where a dude dodges 6 sams wirhout chaff or flares in iraq. The recording is on KZfaq you should check it out

@Varun bhattar nothing will happen if u travel at the speed of sound unless u turn it just like going a plane when ur cruising u feel like ur in land but when it turns then u feel the g forces

@@th3gov3rnm3nt those missiles worked pretty well compared to how old they are and what that pilot did is very impressive lol 2 missile came super close to him he also the thought he was out

You there!

Chinese invented chemically powered projectile.

I don't have any

​@@commentor2594Are you a sovereign nation with it's own functioning military? Same here man!

Time to milatarize the vatican!

Yeah, it's RADAR guided, not heat seeking.

It's radar guided so flares are useless, flares are only useful against it missiles (infrared red)

It’s the Chinese version of behind enemy line

Actor depicted very realistically the sensation of pulling such G forces while sitting on a toilet.

for the record the flares did not work

0:41 It says *chaff*/flares as well. Chaff can throw off radar SAMs, so the point of flares being useless is redundant, when chaff is also being used (literally stated by film captions)

ramjet is a rocket engine?

well j11 has max speed of 2.7 so they do have some time but the missle would neaver even chase them from the tail tho 🤔

well any missles in general dont chase like that, they are moving way too fast to be turning like that. once the missle misses its done

Yes. Most missiles run out of thrust very quickly. But few like the European meteor might lose track and then turn 180 degrees and require track on close ranges. Because it has datalink and a ramjet motor. But generally if they miss, they're gone.

Very short range all aspect missile may chase but not SAMs. SAMs are too fast to evade by maneuvering any ways. And SAM itself is not maneuverable to do 180 after missing. If it misses it would lose target lock unless someone is actively guiding it by a data link. But they are built for interception. Making them turn and make slower makes little sense when you can just fire more of them.

Well most anti aircraft missiles are much faster than the plane If it gets behind you there is no way of outrunning it unless you have a plane that's as fast as the blackbird Intercepting is like sprinting to catch someone in close proximity for a short while not chasing after them

The missile flies 5-10x faster than the jet. Except for the newest missiles, they will do a single flyby attack. If they have a lock, they will detonate near the plane. If not, they will fly past it and detonate after a specific time. It will not turn around and chase the place like in the movies. Think of it like an airburst round. The only way to avoid it is to break its lock while it is still far away. If it still has a lock a few dozen km away, it will almost always hit you.

It will basically predict your path instead of following you directly from behind

It will find the shortest path to hit the aircraft not chasing it

I'm guessing. but i think intercept missiles are designed to defend anything from entering a very specific area. so they have high speed short range. as they burn through their fuel quickly. as they don't care to chase anything down outside of their small firing radius that they are protecting. as their aim is to defend a specific area. they will come in very fast on their target and not be slow like a jet and ignore everything outside their area. they basically predict where the target is going to be and get there very fast and blow up at same time. they don't have much turn abilities as they are based on speed and prediction. unlike other missiles that are designed to hit an enemy target rather than defend your own area. which would mean needing more fuel for travelling longer distances, maybe even ability to keep track of moving target using gps, ability to pass through enemy missile defence systems, stealth etc. so they would be designed differently and have different abilities.

Because the pilot was ignorant about the type of missile.

0:41 It says *chaff*/flares as well. Chaff can throw off radar SAMs, so the point of flares being useless is redundant, when chaff is also being used (literally stated by film captions)

@@Isenmouthe 0:41

New super duper top secret high speed low drag Chinese missile

What title of this movie sir/ma'am?

@@gadgethunter2905 skyhunter

This is only movie kid America to many movie propaganda but only movie kid..

​​@@DanielLau-kd3iftleast America actually sticks to some sort of reality and not ignoring publicly known facts and the laws of physics 😂😂😂

1h ago and you got a pin how lucky

I know right, As if theres enough movies where any countries planes dodged any missiles.

Sa-6 Buk is radar guided and can't be spoofed by flares.

But the comments aren't wrong thou.

bitch please, its a comment section.

Sky Hunter 2017

Thnx buddy

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