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CHINA: The West has Double Standards! West: China has Double Standards! Who is to be trusted?

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Pascal Coppens

Pascal Coppens

2 жыл бұрын

CHINA: The West has Double Standards! West: China has Double Standards! Who is to be trusted? #chinasnewnormal
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@willeisinga2089
@willeisinga2089 2 жыл бұрын
I support China. They talk Sense. China build an Asphalt road to my house in Suriname. And build the Regional Hospital Wanica in Suriname. In Groningen Netherlands I have 50 affordable Solar Panels Heatpump made in China. Energy independent. No Gas. I produce 11.000 kWh a year. My Cellphone Xiaomi. China products changed my live for the better. In Groningen Netherlands and in Lelydorp Suriname. And President Xi says what I think. Huawei is Super. The Best. USA wants to colonise China and control China and myself.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, when the government force Muslims to remove their beards, that is really great sense. Maybe you should talk to your local MP in Holland about that.
@Monkey341
@Monkey341 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandergroom When did any govt. force their moslems to shave their beards? You refering to China? Then you must be one bloody blind bloke. Can't you see the Hui, Uighurs, Kazakhs and other moslem minorities in China have their beards all along? Where did your dumb mind hear of such nonsense? Western MSM propaganda? Why don't you effing go to China and see reality with your own effing eyes! Go!
@bboystretch7788
@bboystretch7788 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that Will.
@willeisinga2089
@willeisinga2089 2 жыл бұрын
@@bboystretch7788 Yes. And it is true.
@qiwu1642
@qiwu1642 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support of China
@tadikasimanis
@tadikasimanis 2 жыл бұрын
Double standards is such a kind word. Hypocrisy is the reality. Exceptionalism is its by-product.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
I am kind 😉
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppens To whom? (since double-standards exist in all parties, China and elsewhere)
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace 2 жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppens Kind, perceptive and very smart! As the world is slipping into another dangerous Cold War, we all need voices like yours to unravel insidious propaganda of fears and hate! You are an inspiration to others to explain and rectify misconceptions and propaganda to haters and war mongers, to bring about a better and more peaceful world!
@Shenzhou.
@Shenzhou. 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 China is currently *at peace and not at war* with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like _roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports,_ etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc. Whereas the United States is *warmonger* being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place. If anything, it sounds like the United States is a threat to global peace and stability.
@esp4yu
@esp4yu 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 From what I gather not just Social Media, News and Information from Reliable Source, Pascal ensure there is a Balance Approach ... I had to stop watching Western propaganda because it is not substantiated with views from Intellectuals but from hearsay, gossips ... you name it.
@dryeoh2023
@dryeoh2023 2 жыл бұрын
Pascal, I don't agree that China calls the West for practicing "Double Standard". The correct word of the Western Politicians is not being double standard - they are "HYPOCRITES". I love the Western "Democrazy" and "Freedom" - the freedom to kill, the freedom to discriminate against their own citizen, the freedom to destroy other nations and the "democrazy" that ensure that the 1% decides who their president and senators gets elected and sells weapons. The "democrazy" that is ruled by the Military Industrial Complex. We Asians wants the Chinese system because they helped and lift 800 million of their citizen from poverty. The communist government built roads and rails that are world class and which improves the traveling needs of the citizen and businessmen. Let China be China and we appreciate that the West enjoy their own type of democracy and freedom of being poor and their desire to be fooled by their own government. China is bad for the West but Asians, Africans and South Americans and Middle Eastern are having great economic activities and improving their livelihood. America and Europe can remain what they are.
@fannybirot2362
@fannybirot2362 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I want to say. The west is mostly hypocrites using double standards from time to time against other countries, not only against China.
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ 2 жыл бұрын
USA promotes Deathmocracy, Fleedom and Human Lice.
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
"We, the Asians" !?!?!? So it seems that Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, India, Sri Lanka and so many more trusted you to voice their wants and wishes. Interesting, since they all do not want the Chinese system anywhere near. Are you also speaking for the Taiwanese? As for the DEMOCRACIES one thing is for certain: citizens are far less fooled than those of China. By far! Now, it seems you are mistaking China's last two decades for the future or even the longer past. Starting from the beginning, it took 50 years of total mismanagement by the CCP for China to finally get out of poverty. During this half a century, CCP's experiments led to famine and all sorts of atrocities - Chinese people were far more than simply fooled, they were starved to death, tortured, imprisoned, beaten, oppressed. Only when the CCP freed the Chinese society and let people go about their lives, they were finally able to lift themselves from poverty - with the fundamental help from the West that invested heavily and fueled economic growth and social development. But all of that is past. The future is yet to be seen but, given the inhumanity, cruelty of CCP, which is turning back to its past, together with its endemic corruption, the future is quite uncertain. Now, we all know that the CCP fiddles with the numbers, twists, falsifies statistics and lies systematically (in addition to depriving Chinese citizens from accessing information). But even with limited information available, we can see a clear downturn of the Chinese economy, with many millions being thrown back into poverty, high youth unemployment, along with many other disturbing signs. 20 years of exceptional boom (fueled by Western countries) are a bad predictor for the next 20 years of this new oppressive China...
@orangutan4696
@orangutan4696 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese people are now living too good. Not allowed.
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 So why don't you compare India to China? Only those two world's most populated countries with over 1 billion people population each! Democratic India and communist PRC China started about at the same time, India in Jan. 1950, and China in Oct. 1949. Ever since communism started in 1949 the living condition and social equality in China improved greatly, but life in the democratic India got even worst. 70 years later, today's democratic India is like the communist China in the 1970s, while China is now advancing over USA!
@charlesyang4923
@charlesyang4923 2 жыл бұрын
The big question here is that Western powers double standard or hypocrite behavior is not just seen by China, but gradually accepted by all non-western countries. No person is born superior than the other, and inclusive is the only cure to resolve this as differentiation amongst countries located in various parts of the globe is what makes our world diversified and multifacet.
@view1st
@view1st 2 жыл бұрын
Power politics is inherently hypocritical, but expecially if you come from a country where public persona and public image is everything and you can't tell the truth because it would make you unelectable.
@whakatu4life285
@whakatu4life285 2 жыл бұрын
Even people in the west such as I and others I know also see the double standards of our governments
@yl128pang3
@yl128pang3 2 жыл бұрын
The world will eventually wake up to reliaze that America technology, products and services are not reliable. Why? Because you never know when they will sanction you for using US technology and services. And when you get kicked out of SWIFT.
@boonteoh2346
@boonteoh2346 2 жыл бұрын
China's soft power is helping other nations to be economic viable, sustainable, not to "colonise" them. It is a win-win situation, no force or threats of sanctions like what US/Collective do!!
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Sri Lanka is a great example - hyper-sustainable with absolutely no colonization (the Chinese-owned port is just a mirage). I guess one of the win-win turned into a sour loss. Pakistan, Zimbabwe, Myanmar, Laos... so many wins! It seems that where China goes sustainability evaporates and colonization becomes a reality.
@holijoe
@holijoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 China didn't put Sri Lankan leaders at gunpoint to sign agreement to lease port. And these leasing was collateral for the loan which is normal business practice.
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
@@holijoe Of course they didn't. All they had to do was greasing their filthy hands and in a snap-shot they betrayed their own people. The same goes for many other countries. The question is: is that the world you want your sons to live in? A world where your leaders are purchased and rented by a world power? Good luck. Keep praising China's ways and soon you will find yourself living in hell.
@baojhoang7242
@baojhoang7242 2 жыл бұрын
It’s call economic colonialism. The USA is the master of this game. China is only beginning to play this game. The us get the richer countries while China get the leftover
@wrongchannel2780
@wrongchannel2780 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 lol westernp ig, that's very funny considering srilanka's debt to China only 10% of it's total debt.
@relaxwhc
@relaxwhc 2 жыл бұрын
If you believe China is a peaceful and progressive country, raise your hand ✋🙋🏻‍♂️👍
@gohanblanco5641
@gohanblanco5641 2 жыл бұрын
Progressive in what sense? Like culturally Progressive?
@ronniechew6566
@ronniechew6566 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@gohanblanco5641
@gohanblanco5641 2 жыл бұрын
@Michael Dortmund Yea I don't fall for mainstream western narratives. I was just asking China's take on cultural issues which I admire a lot. As I am a Communist and a Conservative for a long time.
@xiaoq8329
@xiaoq8329 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you saying the same thing everyday in everywhere? Any unique personal perspectives?
@nancytay648
@nancytay648 2 жыл бұрын
@@gohanblanco5641 IN EVERYTHING THEY DO N BUILD EVERYWHERE IN N OUTSIDE OF 🇨🇳 🇲🇴 🇭🇰 🇨🇳 ❤❤❣❤❣❤❣❤❣
@horridohobbies
@horridohobbies 2 жыл бұрын
The West are not entitled to criticize China over human rights. There are several important reasons for this (aside from the double standard)... First, the Chinese have lived by their value system for over 2,000 years. This value system persists to this day. Their society is *collectivist* and they trust their authority to take care of them (hence, the fact that China is "authoritarian"). Second, the Chinese today enjoy more freedom than at any other time in their 2,000+ years of history. Third, the Chinese fully trust their government, according to various studies (Edelman, Latana, Ash Center, etc.). Fourth, the Chinese didn't ask for our help. The Chinese don't need our help. So why are we inserting ourselves into their society? Fifth, if you bother to visit Xinjiang, or visit Tibet, and talk to the people, you will find that they are content with their quality of life. They are *happy* . If they are suffering from human rights abuses, shouldn't it be obvious in their faces? You don't see that. They accept their way of life. They are thriving. What's the problem???
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
"the Chinese have lived by their value system for over 2,000 years" Really? So, what was all that fuss about the "Cultural Revolution"? Communism destroyed Chinese tradition and core values. Confucianism was substituted by a completely inhumane set of twisted values professed by the CCP - placing the CCP above everything else. One thing that really bothers me: why do you need an army to make Tibetans and Uihgurs happy? Do they like playing with guns? Chinese propaganda can be so ridiculous sometimes...
@lisalawchan1703
@lisalawchan1703 2 жыл бұрын
What is the problem? The problem is called “White Supremacy”!
@stephenlock7236
@stephenlock7236 2 жыл бұрын
The so-called "concerns" about China are just false flag issues and propaganda that the US, the West, the anti China and the sinophobic use again China. The real issue is that the US and the West are fearful the success of China and its political system posed a real and serious threat to the capitalist system which it favours. And most importantly, China's rise in and progress is a threat to their 3 centuries of Anglo Saxon dominance, hegemony and primacy. A blatant sense of racial superiority, entitlements and disdain for those who are different.
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenlock7236 There are no more diverse societies than those of the West. The US itself was made of immigrants- Go to London or Amsterdam, Paris or Berlin, and then take a look at Xhangai or Beijing. The contrast is overwhelming. The West has been dealing and learning to integrate for centuries, while China closed on itself. Western parliaments are far more diverse than China's CCP's mock of parliament. They reflect to a great extent the diversity of each society, only possible given its democratic system. Chinese propaganda is chauvinist to an extreme it would be intolerable in any Western society, reaching blunt racism, in so many ways reminding nazi Germany or Putin's Russia. China remain by and large a monolithic single-race society, completely the opposite of most Western societies. It systematically portraits the West as the enemy, it fuels hate and aggressiveness towards Japan, it tries to justify China's imperialism as a defensive right (which is to say: we can invade Tibet, oppress the Uighur, conquer the South China sea but...we are just defending ourselves). Chinese regime is West-phobic and proclaims it ad-nausea. And does so to justify and perpetuate its own existence - they need an outside enemy to divert attention from their own flaws, the increasing oppression and the economic downturn. When we watch Chinese celebrating the murder of Shinzo Abe, we realize how China has degenerated under CCP's absolute power and years of its sick chauvinistic propaganda. The West was instrumental in lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty. Yet, the Chinese regime claims the merits to itself, even knowing that for nearly half a century it was on its own totally incapable of doing so. China doesn't welcomes refugees, it exports Chinese. China doesn't care of humane tragedy, it takes advantage of it. If Chinese regime stands on race, ethnicity, religion and any other angle of self-determination are to be assessed, one just needs to have a look at China itself.
@shailajadsharma3516
@shailajadsharma3516 2 жыл бұрын
Well you deserve a medal for your tireless efforts to bring together china and the West
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@linphilip6389
@linphilip6389 2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately Pascal probably needs more than one lifetime to achieve this.
@baojhoang7242
@baojhoang7242 2 жыл бұрын
@@linphilip6389 very true. Unless we have smart, charismatic, and strategic leaders on both sides, thing will not improve anytime soon
@ZjefVanAcker
@ZjefVanAcker 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@trygd100
@trygd100 2 жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppens you are a disgrace. You also like Hitler?
@haibin356
@haibin356 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Chinese, and I can tell u the majority(more than 90% of the population) of Chinese support CPC deep down in their heart. Western people should respect Chinese people's own choices; just mind your business. We don't care about western people's options; it is our life, our choice. I would like emphases here, western people, especially Anglosaxons people, you guys are not higher or any kind of superior to us; you have no moral right to lecture us on how we should live. It is time to abandon the western superiority mentality if you guys really believe in your so-called "universal valve", all men are equal; if not, YOU have just proven that you guys are racist and double standard. period.
@breenaqin1370
@breenaqin1370 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, same as what I thought!
@elangotup
@elangotup 2 жыл бұрын
Sure if you respect every human and their rights inside and outside china is good. Individual people of most countries are good as a human being. What they do when it comes to supporting the government which is doing bad things. I don’t like western government but I like the western people who openly criticise the government when it violates the rights of his fellow citizens. Indians , chinese and asian don’t care for fellow citizens especially if he is targeted by ruling class. They abandon him and runaway and will become parrot of ruling class statements
@haibin356
@haibin356 2 жыл бұрын
​@@elangotup First of all, I also think that China's social system is imperfect, and we are constantly learning to correct our social system. What you mean to say here is that China has no "freedom of speech". Do you think we don't have the right to express ourselves freely or to speak out freely when our government makes controversial decisions? If so, I must admit that China does not have the same "freedom of speech" form as in the West. Our society Advocates social harmony, and the Chinese government tends to control the direction of online speech when something sharp and sensitive happens. As far as I am concerned, it is necessary and Western governments are doing the same thing. If you want to seriously discuss freedom of speech, do you think that Western people have that right? Look at Assange. Look at Snowden. Do you think it's funny and ironic? What happened to freedom of speech? How does it break down when you put it in your own country? Secondly, you said that people in the West criticise the government every day, but has anything changed? Every day on Twitter, Facebook and then what? Have the problems that the common people really care about been solved? Every four years, a new president changes, and the new government immediately reverses the policies of the previous one. Then what? I do not believe that Western people have absolute freedom of speech or that freedom of speech can solve social problems. Of course, I also think that the Chinese government should listen to the voices of the people, and they should continue to try to improve their work and help the people solve their real problems. But I don't think there's any advantage in the West's hypocritical, double-standard free speech, and it's very inefficient and only feeds populism. In fact, I particularly want to ask you what is RIGHT? Does the West have the right to decide how the world works? Does the West have the right to impose what it considers "democratic values" on the people of the Middle East? Does the West have the right to define what democracy is? Does the West have the right to overthrow South American socialist governments? What are rights? Nothing. What the West considers right is right is from a position of strength. When the West had the gunboat, the power, and the intention, They had the right to do whatever they wanted. Western freedom and democratic values = Western hegemony = I can, you can't.
@larrya3681
@larrya3681 2 жыл бұрын
@@haibin356 I can't agree with you more. Points well put. But I think they just pretend they don't understand 😀 That's the reason Chinese always work hard to catch up latest technology and economy. It's the only way to balance the world,defend our land and our preferred life.
@ezioauditore5616
@ezioauditore5616 Жыл бұрын
Best words my brother, even saved it, words of bravery
@UnipacEquipmentPteLtdSingapore
@UnipacEquipmentPteLtdSingapore 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese give their government 95% approval. In the west, governments approval mostly about 40%. So, which is more democratic?
@cmsoon8
@cmsoon8 2 жыл бұрын
Well presented Pascal. Just to repeat the old saying - '"when you point a finger at someone, you have three fingers pointing back at you".
@DailyBeatings
@DailyBeatings 2 жыл бұрын
I think China should give the west one finger, or two if you're from the UK...🤣😂🤣😂
@nexususer1108
@nexususer1108 2 жыл бұрын
One of those three is called middle finger.
@kwokholuk8723
@kwokholuk8723 2 жыл бұрын
@@nexususer1108 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
Touche. So what does that mean when China points at the West calling it a hypocrite?
@cmsoon8
@cmsoon8 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandergroom In this case it's thumbs up for China!
@insideout9824
@insideout9824 2 жыл бұрын
I personally don’t mind to have the same leader for decades as long as the leader is righteous, that’s what truly matters
@JamesBond-dx4qi
@JamesBond-dx4qi 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia the ex PM is trying to be the Minister of everything behind the back of its people who elected him, this called hypocracy.
@gradclvz3501
@gradclvz3501 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in Bangkok, one of the guy in the tour wanted to go to a market where they sell fake branded products. Soon the tour separated into 2 groups who went to different directions. One thing very interesting was most of the people who went to the ‘fake brands’ market are Westerners. On the other side, most of the people who did not are Asians. I think you are right. Asians produce cheap products because Westerners love to buy cheap products.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
I recognize same pattern in Beijing and Shanghai
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is more likely a curiosity. Also generally speaking there is rule of law in Western countries meaning selling / buying fake goods is actually punished, it is not just lip service.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppens Do you?
@gradclvz3501
@gradclvz3501 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandergroom Even in all Asian countries, buying/selling fake goods is punishable by law. There is no difference. Yet these hidden markets are available in every countries in the world, only if you know where to find them.
@kaiki8490
@kaiki8490 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of fake RM and Rolex watches are made in Japan
@Shenzhou.
@Shenzhou. 2 жыл бұрын
In China, the _"people's democratic dictatorship"_ means that the government has to bow down to the wishes of the people. In the West, it's a _"dictatorship of the bourgeoisie"_ where the government has to bow down to the wishes of the 1%.
@jorgemarraud4160
@jorgemarraud4160 2 жыл бұрын
That is a nice slogan, it´s a pity that in recent years first Hong Konese and recently Chinese citizens are demonstrating the falsehood of that slogan despite the government´s attempts to prevent the videos of government-sponsored unidentified gangs beating citizens whenever they protest or citizens protesting in Shanghai as they have been locked down for weeks and depend on the mercy of the army delivering food, food that in many cases was rotten, undelivered or in a short quantity or even one can simply look at the massive amount of assets and people flying China for Western countries lately. Regardless of all the imperfections of "the West" (it is pretty ignorant to pack under the same label US citizens, Canadians, Spaniards, French citizens, Germans...) , governments are much more accountable for their actions and transparent than in China. I´ve been traveling there for long periods of time and found that, despite not being as the US wants the world to believe, it is a far from perfect dictatorship condemned to be that or fall to pieces.
@Shenzhou.
@Shenzhou. 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgemarraud4160 Hong Kong was taken from China by Britain. During the 19th century, the British wanted to continue drinking Chinese tea, but China did not want anything the West had to offer, so Britain waged two bloody wars with China and forced Chinese to buy opium from them at gunpoint, which we didn't want because it made us sick and was poisoning our people. During this weak period of Chinese history, Hong Kong was taken from China and made into British colony, to act as a drug distribution hub to spread the addiction throughout rest of China. Even when Britain renounced ownership over its former territories, Hong Kong was not fully returned back to China, and China had to agree to Sino-British declaration just for Britain to handover what belongs to us.
@Shenzhou.
@Shenzhou. 2 жыл бұрын
@@jorgemarraud4160 Hong Kong was taken from China by Britain. During the 19th century, the British wanted to continue drinking Chinese tea, but China did not want anything the West had to offer, so Britain waged two wars with China and forced Chinese to buy opium from them at gunpoint, which we didn't want because it made us sick and was poisoning our people. During this weak period of Chinese history, Hong Kong was taken from China and made into British colony, to act as a drug distribution hub to spread the addiction throughout rest of China. Even when Britain renounced ownership over its former territories, Hong Kong was not fully returned back to China, and China had to agree to Sino-British declaration just for Britain to handover what belongs to us.
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
Pathetic. In democracy is the exact opposite of dictatorship, as left to right, up from down. There is no such thing as democratic dictatorship, other than in the lunatic and deceptive Chinese propaganda. That's for a reason: the regime is always seeking to legitimize itself. It knows its power is abusive, it knows how corrupt it is, it knows how its members interests prevail over those of the people. The CCP bows no no one and nothing. Its power is intended to be absolute. Expecting that such a bunch doesn't abuse of it is delusional. The abuse is permanent and been proven too often. CCP has survived simply because the economy was providing to the people - not because of the CCP but despite the CCP. CCP members took far more than their share. And now, as the economy crumbles under the heavy weight of corruption and mismanagement, the CCP knows it must find a escape-goat for its flaws. I'm afraid the CCP rotten regime will impose on the world a brutal war - as did Russia and for the exact same reasons, as did Hitler, Stalin and so many barbarian dictators throughout History.
@Facts..Checker
@Facts..Checker 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, in short it's called Plutocracy, sugar-coated with Democracy slogans.
@chang5921
@chang5921 2 жыл бұрын
American human rights? Ask the natives american
@ronniechew6566
@ronniechew6566 2 жыл бұрын
They have no voice
@thisiskevin1000
@thisiskevin1000 2 жыл бұрын
and the immigrants
@bjl9073
@bjl9073 2 жыл бұрын
They cannt breath
@breenaqin1370
@breenaqin1370 2 жыл бұрын
They have freedom to have guns!
@ronniechew6566
@ronniechew6566 2 жыл бұрын
@@breenaqin1370 Freedom to kill each other 😁
@jennylee1802
@jennylee1802 2 жыл бұрын
During the early years of 1980s when Singapore had its first North South train system built by the Japanese, all the top and middle executive management positions as well as engineering positions were filled by the Japanese. Later, when the French and German companies helped to build the railway lines that run through other parts of Singapore, these foreigners also filled the top and middle management positions. There were no condemnations from the social media from the West or India on such unfair practices from Japan, France and Germany.
@momokui
@momokui 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing when the European countries hauled raw materials from Indonesia to their country and sold the finish goods to Indonesia in high price, no western country worried about Indonesia. Even at some point Indonesia demanded them, to build smelter in Indonesia so it could create job in Indonesia, they ignored the demand, however when China helped Indonesia building the smelter, they said Chinese debt trap and provoked locals against Chinese people.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
In 2022 all the top positions at Tiktok offices in London are held by Chinese. Is this racist too? This is now, not 40 years ago.
@jennylee1802
@jennylee1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandergroom Please pardon my ignorance, what about 40 years ago, who held all those top positions ?
@creatormaxi8324
@creatormaxi8324 Жыл бұрын
​@@momokui and the workers burned the smelter, it is a very genius behaviour of "indonesian people" But we love that stupid people, if everybody clever, so we can not eat steak everyday 😅
@davidli2080
@davidli2080 2 жыл бұрын
The root cause of this “ double standards”’is the West do not wish to giving up the Idea of ruling the world. That leads to the hostile geopolitical rivalry. If the West particularly, US would finally treat China as equal rights country. All these double standard will go away. As we all can say and acknowledge that we are living in a very interesting and diversified world. We can then all try to approach the common goods for mankind.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
I think China obsesses about how other people perceives it. In my experience most people in the UK do not think about China very much. Most experience is just buying cheap low quality plastic products that used to be made closer to home. I recall that in China there is a determined effort to constantly remind people how 'China' was 'humiliated' by the 'West' in the 1800s, and that retribution should be made for the 'Century of Shame'. I remember at school we only talked about China in a positive way - Chinese New Year Festivals, econonmic resurgence, etc - there was no discussion of the Cultural Revolution, The Great Leap Forward, etc. Perhaps there should be - we need a more balanced view, the mistreated Chinese people deserve it.
@davidli2080
@davidli2080 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandergroom Today the Britain's chosen PM candidates, Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss both filthy loudly mouthed that China is UK’s biggest security, economy and society threat in their domestic election campaign, whilst you believed people in UK do not think much about China ? so these two most influential figures in UK of Today are nuts? No body pay much attention to an ordinary UK people of their opinion about China. I am talking about elite of the UK and West Countries, they can decide the relationship with China. Their opinion matters not too much an ordinary Western people. I think Pascal is so right here to describe the Double Standards. In Australia and New Zealand, every year they talk a lot about ANZAC day , in Japan they won't forget Nuke dropped on their land and same to UK will memorize the fellow countrymen died in WWI and WWII. So what''s wrong for the Chinese to educate our people to remember the humiliation to our ancestors ? we learned the lessons from our own history. Today China is far more active to promote "common goods and benefits for the mankind. whilst some political figures in the West including UK are hysterical about China's peaceful rise. do not forget China has not shot a single bullet in the last 40 years. whilst US including UK and Nato involved in numerous bloody wars in Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and many more, killing murdering millions of innocent man, women, old and young. An ordinary UK people can probably turned their blind eye to those atrocities.
@horridohobbies
@horridohobbies 2 жыл бұрын
I am truly puzzled. Why do the West, or how can the West, claim that their democracy is "better?" Better in what sense? *Pragmatically* better? Or *ideologically* better? Who cares about ideology? It's practical results that matter. Practical results determine whether a political system serves the people, whether it's democratic. Going by practical results, China's system serves the people extraordinarily well. The Chinese are prosperous; extreme poverty has been eradicated. They live peaceful lives. They're safe and secure, esp. from a pandemic and from invasion. They don't worry about random gun violence. They have affordable health care. They don't have homelessness. They're well-educated. The Chinese regard themselves as democratic, according to Latana's Democracy Perception Index. They fully trust their government, according to the Edelman Trust Barometer, as well as a study by Ash Center at Harvard Kennedy School. By every practical metric, China is a democracy. So they don't have multiparty elections. Who cares?
@stvdmc2011
@stvdmc2011 2 жыл бұрын
Remember china is one party and we just one more than they do
@xiaoq8329
@xiaoq8329 2 жыл бұрын
propagandistically better 😂😂😂
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
"Going by practical results, China's system serves the people extraordinarily well" Is that so? Given that the system is basically the same, please explain me how did it serve well the people between 1949 and 1989? Was it by starving them? Or by breaking families apart, punishing arbitrarily innocent people simply because... Could it be that you are centering your view in a very narrow time-span, when Western economies invested heavily in China, lifting it up from poverty and fostering its economic development? You see, when one is starving, the only one concern is eating. There is nothing else, no more relevant considerations. But, what when the belly is full? Do you still insist in eating more or do you start caring for other issues? The thing is: Chinese system worked well (pragmatism) when the main issue was feeding the hungry - at least it did after 40 years failing to do so. Anyway, it improved, which can only be good. But the question now is different: will the Chinese system be able to respond adequately when the concerns and priorities are totally different? Looking at China today, I have serious doubts. First of all, the increase repression of people. It seems that the system is incapable of dealing with people's new concerns and opts for repressing them, over-stressing its merits in ending famine and mitigating poverty as a mean to claim for an eroding legitimacy My doubts are even greater as freedom becomes a far more important priority once the belly is full and expectations rise to other levels... Eternal massive growth is a mathematical impossibility in a finite world. So, growth alone will not be something the Chinese regime can hang on to indefinitely. And so it seems it is lacking the creativity to reinvent itself, resourcing to ruthless oppression and outwards aggressiveness in order to preserve its power. And that seems to me as a very stupid strategy with a high probability of yielding tragic results... again. It looks like the Chinese regime is drifting away from Chinese people, being much more concerned with preserving and reinforcing its own power. Widespread corruption within the CCP was something people didn't care much while they were improving their own living standards - not sure they will remain so soft once hardship sets in. Time will tell.
@horridohobbies
@horridohobbies 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 In 1978, Deng Xiaoping ushered in sweeping reforms that totally transformed China. Ever since then, China has been laser-focussed on economic development. Four decades are a very long time in geopolitics. It's hardly a narrow timespan. What other issues are you talking about? The Chinese people are becoming more and more prosperous. Their society is safe and stable; the country is strongly united. The country is at peace - not a single war fought since 1979! The Chinese fully trust their government, according to the Edelman Trust Barometer, a study by Ash Center at Harvard Kennedy School, and Latana's Democracy Perception Index. I'm afraid you know shit about China. Nothing you've stated holds water.
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
@@horridohobbies Deng Xiaoping was a visionary and did China extremely good. He is admirable and a stark contrast with Mao. 40 years are in fact a narrow time-span. You may not know, but Europe and the West after WWII and up to the 80ies were growing at tremendous rates even while relinquishing their former empires. At that time, nothing you say about democracies would even remotely make sense. They were unstoppable, or so they seemed. China is full of that exact same exacerbated illusion that will carry on for ever as it was yesterday. Yet, it won't. And the signs are far too clear to see. The eternal prosperity you imagine is simply not there anymore. Not going into details, just be aware. Trust? Well, if that is so, why so much repression and concern with control, censorship and lying to its own people? That's not out of trust. That's precisely the opposite. Anyway, time will tell.
@JenHope118
@JenHope118 2 жыл бұрын
My granny used to tell her neighbour this: " stop your nonsense now! Stop telling me how to rule my household!" I was too young to understand then, now I do.
@absolutejewel
@absolutejewel 2 жыл бұрын
China's democracy is by the people and for the people (of China). The leaders rise from ground level up, only the strong, competent and have proved in deeds to have contributed to the people/society, can rise to the top. Democracy of the West is by the top few % and for the top few %, their leaders get elected not because they are competent but because they have more financial 'sponsors' and are popular (only by words and optics but not by deeds).
@janwong3705
@janwong3705 2 жыл бұрын
It's easy. Trust results, not empty words.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
China is very poor. Li Keqiang says 600 million people live in poverty in China. According to your easy method America and the West are far far far better.
@Hahaha41241
@Hahaha41241 2 жыл бұрын
I am French, the west is double standard.
@hilarysexton1343
@hilarysexton1343 2 жыл бұрын
US congressmen and senators get into power with financial support of giant corporations. The voters have a choice of one stooge or another. Not really the choice of the people.
@nancytay648
@nancytay648 2 жыл бұрын
THEY DIDNT REALLY DO ANYTHING GOOD FOT E PPL 😔 😪 😤 ONLY KILLING IN N OUTSIDE E NATION. ONLY CREATE TRENSIONS TO FIGHT. C WARS. CAUSING E 🌎 🗺 ECONOMIC CRISIS WWIDE AFFECTING PPL ^S LIVELIHOODS!!!!
@cosmoray9750
@cosmoray9750 2 жыл бұрын
Govt Sells Oil to China & India kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e5yjltOU2JvKcmw.html
@kl9518
@kl9518 2 жыл бұрын
I took an American business man to some Chinese factories many years ago. He wanted the Chinese to produce copies of antique furniture to ship to the US at a very cheap price.
@winchesterlyon
@winchesterlyon 2 жыл бұрын
Actually. The US, France, and the UK all still have colonies. Of course, they don't call them colonies, but in practice, they all are.
@marioleonl8800
@marioleonl8800 2 жыл бұрын
Can we learn from each other instead of blaming each other ?
@YenDiki
@YenDiki 2 жыл бұрын
WELL. CHINA IS RIGHT...! GREETINGS TO THE NICE PEOPLE IN CHINA!!! KEEP YOUR HEADS UP!😎😎👍👍👍👍👍👍🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀💥💥
@arseniouy7997
@arseniouy7997 Жыл бұрын
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@PhiloSurfer
@PhiloSurfer 2 жыл бұрын
The US really needs to make clear what the rules are which make up the "Rules Based Order". For example, the US says China should abide by the United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea but the US itself is one of only two countries that are not signatories to the convention. Similarly, the US says that China should abide by the ruling of the World Court directed arbitration with respect to the dispute between China and the Philippines over the SCS. But the US does not recognise the jurisdiction of the World Court. It's clear then that UNCLOS and the World Court aren't part of the "Rules Based Order". So what is ? For example, what rule allowed the US to invade Iraq based on fabricated evidence of WMD, resulting in the deaths of a million people. Or the invasion of Afghanistan resulting in a quarter of a million deaths. Someone help me: what are the rules ! Then there are the many agreements that the US has reneged on such as the nuclear agreement with Iran, the intermediate range missile agreement etc. I guess these weren't part of the "Rules Based Order" so what is ? Finally, there is the International Criminal Court which the US has blocked from investigating US forces war crimes in Afghanistan. The US issued an executive order effectively criminalizing anyone who works at the ICC. Its lawyers, judges, researchers etc could now have their U.S. bank accounts frozen, U.S. visas revoked and travel to the U.S. denied. Can I summarise what I think the "Rules Based Order" really is: It means that the US does what it likes and the rest of us do what we are told.
@michaelloong964
@michaelloong964 2 жыл бұрын
whatever other countries say about the US double standard fall on the deaf ears of the US politicians who exclaimed < we lie, we cheat, we steal.> Period.
@aliciap6329
@aliciap6329 2 жыл бұрын
It's not really about standards. It's about pointing fingers. Standards can be discussed if both sides want to solve problems.
@philiptan2051
@philiptan2051 2 жыл бұрын
The real problem is the ‘superiority complex’ of the west. The west views everything about China as ‘inferior’ than their own called ‘standards and values’. This superiority complex is rooted in the colonialism period when the west became the ‘ruler’ of the rest of the world. However, in this age the west is confronted by the immense progress of China which even surpasses the west. To ‘compensate’ the damage on their own view of superiority, the west turns to lies and deceptions as they deny the real facts. This same phenomenon can be seen in people who suffer from superiority complex, it is a distorted truth within the person’s own psychological state of mind.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment is incredibly patronising and racist.
@teongbengang9515
@teongbengang9515 2 жыл бұрын
It is not just double standard, it is millions of standards.
@desmondho3736
@desmondho3736 2 жыл бұрын
America has been in 19 wars since World War II, but we will list the death toll from three of the bloodiest conflicts: The Korean War, The Vietnam War and wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. The total death toll of people killed by American troops in all these wars put together is over 12 million. Each of these three conflicts have something in common: they were wars fought in the name of making the world "safe for democracy."
@condorX2
@condorX2 2 жыл бұрын
China haven't invade any county in 40 years compared to democratic nation that always in war. There is a reason that most countries polled in December 2013 by Gallup called the United States the greatest threat to peace in the world, and why Pew found that viewpoint increased in 2017. But it is a reason that eludes that strain of U.S. academia that first defines war as something that nations and groups other than the United States do, and then concludes that war has nearly vanished from the earth. Since World War II, during a supposed golden age of peace, the United States military has killed or helped kill some 20 million people, overthrown at least 36 governments, interfered in at least 85 foreign elections, attempted to assassinate over 50 foreign leaders, and dropped bombs on people in over 30 countries. The United States is responsible for the deaths of 5 million people in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, and over 1 million just since 2003 in Iraq. Since 2001, the United States has been systematically destroying a region of the globe, bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, and Syria, not to mention the Philippines. The United States has “special forces” operating in two-thirds of the world’s countries and non-special forces in three-quarters of them. The U.S. government provides weapons, military training, and/or military funding to almost every dictatorship and oppressive government on earth. See my 2020 book 20 Dictators Currently Supported by the U.S. U.S. weapons are used on both sides of many wars. In an attempt to quantify U.S. warmaking, I’ve copied below lists from these sources: David Vine: The United States of War William Blum: America’s Deadliest Export: Democracy Dr. Zoltan Grossman: A Century of U.S. Military Interventions James Lucas: U.S. Has Killed More Than 20 Million People From David Vine’s The United States at War: A list of wars and of military combat that for some reason isn’t called a war that does not attempt to include every war and combat against Native Americans: 1774-1883 Shawnee, Delaware 1776 Cherokee 1777-1781 Iroquois Confederacy (Haudenosaunee) 1780-1794 Chickamauga 1790-1795 Miami Confederacy 1792-1793 Muskogee (Creek) 1798-1801 France 1801-1805 Tripoli 1806 Mexico 1806-1810 Spanish, French privateers 1810 Spanish West Florida 1810-1813 Shawnee Confederacy 1812 Spanish Florida 1812-1815 Canada (Great Britain) 1812-1815 Dakota Sioux 1812-1815 Iroquois Confederacy (Haudenosaunee) 1813 Spanish West Florida 1813-1814 Marquesas Islands 1813-1814 Muskogee (Creek) Confederacy 1814 Spanish Florida 1814-1825 Pirates 1815 Algiers 1815 Tripoli 1816 Spanish Florida 1817 Spanish Florida 1817-1819 Seminole 1818 Oregon (Russia, Spain) 1820-1861 African Slave Trade Patrol 1822-1825 Cuba (Spain 1824 Puerto Rico (Spain) 1827 Greece 1831-1832 Falkland Islands 1832 Sauk 1832 Sumatra 1833 Argentina 1835-1836 Peru 1835-1842 Seminole 1836 Mexico 1836-1837 Muskogee (Creek) 1838-1839 Sumatra 1840 Fiji Islands 1841 Samoa 1841 Tabiteuea 1842 Mexico 1843 China 1844 Mexico 1846-1848 Mexico 1847-1850 Cayuse 1849 Turkey 1850-1886 Apache 1851 Johanna Island 1851 Turkey 1852-1853 Argentina 1853-1854 Japan 1853-1854 Nicaragua 1853-1854 Ryukyu, Ogasawara islands 1854-1856 China 1855 Fiji Islands 1855 Uruguay 1855-1856 Rogue River Indigenous Peoples 1855-1856 Yakima, Walla Walla, Cayuse 1855-1858 Seminole 1856 Panama (Colombia) 1856-1857 Cheyenne 1857 Nicaragua 1858 Coeur d’Alene Alliance 1858 Fiji Islands 1858 Uruguay 1858-1859 Turkey 1859 China 1859 Mexico 1859 Paraguay 1860 Angola 1860 Colombia 1862 Sioux 1863-1864 Japan 1864 Cheyenne 1865 Panama (Colombia) 1866 China 1866 Mexico 1866-1868 Lakota Siouw, Northern Cheyenne, Northern Arapaho 1867 Formosa (Taiwan) 1867 Nicaragua 1867-1875 Comanche 1868 Colombia 1868 Japan 1868 Uruguay 1870 Hawaii 1871 Korea 1872-1873 Modoc 1873 Colombia (Panama) 1873-1896 Mexico 1874 Hawaii 1874-1875 Comanche, Apache, Arapaho, Cheyenne, Kiowa 1876-1877 Sioux 1877 Nez Perce 1878 Bannock (Banna’kwut) 1878-1879 Cheyenne 1879-1880 Utes 1882 Egypt 1885 Panama (Colombia) 1888 Haiti 1888 Korea 1888-1889 Samoa 1889 Hawaii 1890 Argentina 1890 Lakota Sioux 1891 Bering Straight 1891 Chile 1891 Haiti 1893 Hawaii 1894 Brazil 1894 Nicaragua 1894-1895 China 1894-1896 Korea 1895 Panama (Colombia) 1896 Nicaragua 1898 Cuba (Spain) 1898 Nicaragua 1898 Philippines (Spain) 1898 Puerto Rico (Spain) 1898-1899 China 1899 Nicaragua 1899 Samoa 1899-1913 Philippines 1900 China 1901-1902 Colombia 1903 Dominican Republic 1903 Honduras 1903 Syria 1903-1904 Abyssinia (Ethiopia) 1903-1914 Panama 1904 Dominican Republic 1904 Tangier 1904-1905 Korea 1906-1909 Cuba 1907 Honduras 1909-1910 Nicaragua 1911-1912 Honduras 1911-1914 China 1912 Cuba 1912 Turkey 1912-1933 Nicaragua 1914 Dominican Republic 1914 Haiti 1914-1919 Mexico 1915-1934 Haiti 1916-1924 Dominican Republic 1917-1918 World War I (Europe) 1917-1922 Cuba 1918-1920 Russia 1918-1921 Panama 1919 Dalmatia 1919 Turkey 1919-1920 Honduras 1925 Panama 1932 El Salvador 1941-1945 World War II (Europe, North Africa, Asia/Pacific) 1946 Trieste 1947-1949 Greece 1948-1949 Berlin, Germany 1950 Formosa (Taiwan) 1950-1953 Korea 1953-1954 Formosa (Taiwan) 1955-1975 Vietnam 1956 Egypt 1958 Lebanon 1962 Cuba 1962 Thailand 1962-1975 Laos 1964 Congo (Zaire) 1965 Dominican Republic 1965-1973 Cambodia 1967 Congo (Zaire) 1976 Korea 1978 Congo (Zaire) 1980 Iran 1981 El Salvador 1981 Libya 1981-1989 Nicaragua 1982-1983 Egypt 1982-1983 Lebanon 1983 Chad 1983 Grenada 1986 Bolivia 1986 Libya 1987-1988 Iran 1988 Panama 1989 Bolivia 1989 Colombia 1989 Libya 1989 Peru 1989 Philippines 1989-1990 Panama 1990 Saudi Arabia 1991 Congo (Zaire) 1991-1992 Kuwait 1991-1993 Iraq 1992-1994 Somalia 1993-1994 Macedonia 1993-1996 Haiti 1993-2005 Bosnia 1995 Serbia 1996 Liberia 1996 Rwanda 1997-2003 Iraq 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Sudan 1999-2000 Kosovo 1999-2000 Montenegro 1999-2000 Serbia 2000 Yemen 2000-2002 East Timor 2000-2016 Colombia 2001 - Afghanistan 2001- Pakistan 2001- Somalia 2002-2015 Philippines 2002- Yemen 2003-2011 Iraq 2004 Haiti c2004- Kenya 2011 Democratic Republic of the Congo 2011-2017 Uganda 2011- Libya c2012- Central African Republic c2012- Mali c2013-2016 South Sudan c2013- Burkina Faso c2013- Chad c2013- Mauritania c2013- Niger c2013- Nigeria 2014 Democratic Republic of the Congo 2014- Iraq 2014- Syria 2015 Democratic Republic of the Congo c2015- Cameroon 2016 Democratic Republic of the Congo 2017- Saudi Arabia c2017 Tunisia 2019- Philippines The list is super long. Continues here if interested Source davidswanson warlist
@notchit3542
@notchit3542 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a long list. very surprising.
@nancytay648
@nancytay648 2 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸 🌎 🇺🇲 🇺🇸
@condorX2
@condorX2 2 жыл бұрын
@@nancytay648 Sen. Ted Cruz has reportedly taken $170k+ from the NRA - so these school buses reminded him of the 4,300+ children who have been killed by gun violence since 2020: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJhndMZ63c68n2g.html (warning: distressing themes)
@johndrumpf9888
@johndrumpf9888 2 жыл бұрын
China annexed Tibet in the 50s, nice of you to cut off your timeline at 40 years for the PRC, but then go back 300 years for the US, including US annexations on its continent. Also, if you add up every single US started war, the causalities don't match the total number of dead due to Mao's idiotic policies.
@wslai7270
@wslai7270 2 жыл бұрын
American politics works for oligarch interest European interest works for American politics American success is a result of Marshall Plan (currency), geographical supremacy (military), English-speaking (media). Democracy is not much to do with its success
@mike4evolution
@mike4evolution 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode and excellent effort. I bet the book "Can We Trust China?" is excellent as well. You (as a westerner) are trying to stay neutral and less biased and "less polarized" between the west and the east, to support a friendly cooperating world instead of a fighting world. I appreciate your idealistic quest although I know you won't succeed. Also, the Chinese Socialist values and meritocratic system are actually better and higher form of society than the western individualistic "freedom from all values" and liberal lobbyist regimes. Still, you are a western at the end of the day... it's good enough you are trying to be neutral and friendly.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
I will always be a Westerner. Thanks for the feedback.
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
"Chinese Socialist values and meritocratic system are actually better and higher form of society than the western individualistic "freedom from all values" and liberal lobbyist regimes" A bold statement. So, maybe you can clarify a few doubts your statement aroused: 1. Being such a wonderful regime, why is that millions of people risk their lives just to enter Europe and the US, Canada? Are they masochists? 2. Why are nearly one million Hong-Kong people fleeing to Western countries? Don't they know what you know? 3. Why is that a vast majority of Taiwanese is firmly against the unification with China precisely because of the Chinese system? are they all fools? 4. Why does the CCP need to repress Chinese people? Are they not aware of their regime's superiority and need to be convinced? 5. Why do you have a growing opposition of so many countries people on Chinese influence? (Zambia, Zimbabwe, Solomon islands, Pakistan, Bolivia, India,...). Do they see something you fail to? 6. Why do you think China is a meritocracy and the Western countries aren't? Based on exactly what? 7. What is a meritocracy when being part of the ruling political party awards you countless privileges? Maybe you should define what you think merit is... 8. How do you match the 40 years of Chinese system prior to its opening to Western investment, from 1949 till 1989? Was there a regime change or was it the exact same ruling prior to 89? What about the next 40 years - which start to look a lot like those early years... 9. How do you equate Western "freedom from all values" with intense activism for fighting climate change, minorities rights, charities actively mitigating poverty, large public demonstrations showing solidarity for Ukrainians, continuous pressure for women's rights? What values are you talking about? Where are Chinese activists? In jail?... You see, so many questions your certainties raise...
@mike4evolution
@mike4evolution 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 I am not going to clarify anything. You can believe whatever wishful thoughts you want. All I'm going to tell you that China is rising and the entire west is in decline. This year alone you will witness how the US, UK and the EU are declining like never before. And this will not be the end of it even. Wait and see for yourself which is which.
@andrenogueira5058
@andrenogueira5058 2 жыл бұрын
@@mike4evolution If you knew anything of economy - which most obviously you don't - you would see the cracks of China. They are everywhere, run deep and touch its very foundations. And the one most relevant is the human element - his incentive to thrive. Take it away and the rest simply crumbles. So, just don't assume or presume too much, you may be surprised. The world doesn't evolve in a straight line, never did, never will.
@mike4evolution
@mike4evolution 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrenogueira5058 Cracks in the Chinese economy! You make me laugh funny boy. "Obviously I don't know anything about economy" but you do! Please, stop making me laugh. Hey Mr. economy, what's the current inflation rate now in the US, the EU and in China? I'll tell you. 9.1%, 8.6% and 2.4% respectively. That' doesn't mean anything? Ok, who is in debt to whom? The US or China? And for how much? Nah don't bother that point either. Who's beating the other one in trade deficit? You know what, you better keep sucking lies from your propaganda machines aka "Main Stream Media". I have no interest in debating a brainwashed liberal.
@rocketman1553
@rocketman1553 2 жыл бұрын
When some charity ads showing how poor children were forced to do labouring work in India, the world sympathies them and donates rather than accusing the politicians to sort out their social issues. Imagine if these forced junior labourers were Chinese children happening in China, the western world would definitely won’t let go of this, they would castigate and gang up against China.
@philclock6361
@philclock6361 2 жыл бұрын
Pascal, thank you for another excellent political terminology lesson. 👏👍
@Kuasarakyat2
@Kuasarakyat2 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect explaination Thanks
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@chickaboomboom2726
@chickaboomboom2726 2 жыл бұрын
HOW CAN DEMOCRACY AND SANCTIONS BE IN THE SAME SENTENCE ?
@ksantitan
@ksantitan 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent presentation with lots of pointers; please keep it up. Yep, certainly hypocritical west; they conveniently ignore the hypocrisy in their harsh criticism of China. The American politicians particularly, should look themselves in the mirror to see whether they truly honour their highly publicised values of democracy, human rights and personal freedom in the first place. Western politicians like to talk; but talk is really cheap. It is their inconsistent actions that accurately betray their double standards and hypocrisy. Basically, those who live in glass houses, should NOT throw stones at others.
@Shenzhou.
@Shenzhou. 2 жыл бұрын
Biden: _"U.S will not send long-range rocket systems to Ukraine that can reach Russia."_ (A while later) Biden: _"U.S will send long-range rocket systems to Ukraine that can reach Russia"_ U.S double standards at its finest.
@eddiehah9842
@eddiehah9842 2 жыл бұрын
The Red Indians in the past always said the white men spoke with forked tongues.
@jkandiechesang
@jkandiechesang 2 жыл бұрын
Double speak
@gerhardvanderpoll7378
@gerhardvanderpoll7378 2 жыл бұрын
He will not send long range weapons IF the Russians withdraw,BUT if they don't then he should,and indeed he did, as Russia invaded Ukraine,not vice versa...🤪🤔 And Russia....has the gall to threaten to use nuclear weapons....
@gerhardvanderpoll7378
@gerhardvanderpoll7378 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiehah9842 What about the yellow man...?
@jorgemarraud4160
@jorgemarraud4160 2 жыл бұрын
Curious...¿What happened with Sino-British Joint Declaration concerning Hong Kong?
@georgehuang9876
@georgehuang9876 2 жыл бұрын
You are sincere, love you
@miaouscleaumonocle
@miaouscleaumonocle 2 жыл бұрын
I still have an issue with the concept of 'the West'. As a French, who knows the US, who knows China, I think we have probably more in common in the way our society works with China than with the US. The American mindset is rather alien to me, and to many of other Europeans. I feel more hostage of American foreign policies and the EU lapdog attitude than a real member of 'the West', which is actually the US and its 5 eyes clique. I am saddened the World becomes so polarized, but we cannot blame developing countries for having China as a role model: we former colonizers were never able to be a role model, only a patronizing and condecending abusive ex-husband... Pascal is an expert on China, but what he explained about these double standards is also what many people feel in other parts of the World, as we could see in recent votes at the UN assembly.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate what you are saying being from Belgium and having US alien to us as well. But when it comes to our worldview of China, I see little difference between Belgians, French or American intellectuals when I listen to the preconceived questions they ask me. Most people ask the exact same questions about the danger of CPC, the unlimited power of Xi, the repression of Xinjiang, the lack of freedoms or privacy, the terrible control with lockdowns and zero covid policy, the agression in South China Sea,...
@QuentinKLEau
@QuentinKLEau 2 жыл бұрын
As a French myself I argue that it is mostly a class issue (colonialism being the apogee of capitalism) and a little bit of incompressible tribalism/racism. The current US, as the new Empire, just has the old European colonial mindset (I agree with Pascal here). Remember that the French Revolution happened in 1789 was mostly a Bourgeois revolution and the human rights declared at that time were largely trampled after. Continental Europe, after losing its colonial power just had more time to learn to be humble, less time for the Brits, and that's only the beginning for the US. You add to the mix that China does not completely open its internal market for the old capital monopoly (Europe + USA) and therefore prevent them to be subservient and hence hated (nothing to do with human rights or democracy). That's why in part you had the cold war (capitalism vs communism) and all the anti-communism propaganda. While China became the new slave labor market, there was just a recess in anti-Chinese propaganda, but when it became obvious that China wouldn't change and become a competitor, suddenly the hostilities resumed. If you are old enough you can compare how China was represented in the press 10 year ago and now. However what I don't understand is why and how Europe is suddenly such a vassal of the US.
@view1st
@view1st 2 жыл бұрын
@@QuentinKLEau Since world war 2 the USA as pursued a quite deliberate policy of infiltrating the governments of Europe and creating a complex network of media organisations and civil society pressure groups as well as multinational institutions such as NATO, WTO, EU, UN, etc., in addition to the indoctrination of western politicians and business leaders in exchange programmes and universities while creating an interdependent and overlapping network of transnational corporations and banks that together have a stranglehold on commerce, finance and access to resources, not least food and energy. ■ Depuis la Seconde Guerre mondiale, les États-Unis ont poursuivi une politique assez délibérée d'infiltration des gouvernements européens et de création d'un réseau complexe d'organisations médiatiques et de groupes de pression de la société civile ainsi que d'institutions multinationales telles que l'OTAN, l'OMC, l'UE , l'ONU, etc., en plus de l'endoctrinement des politiciens occidentaux et des chefs d'entreprise dans les programmes d'échange et les universités tout en créant un réseau interdépendant et superposé de sociétés transnationales et de banques qui, ensemble, ont la mainmise sur le commerce, la finance et l'accès aux ressources, notamment nourriture et énergie.
@jason34007
@jason34007 2 жыл бұрын
as a Chinese student in France. What I feel is that French society is really ahead of ours but the difference may not that huge. The real problem is western people and Chinese don’t have a platform to communicate, then the reality of china or western world becomes in a way that how medias could enlarge their benefit for the most.
@handaxia1251
@handaxia1251 2 жыл бұрын
@@QuentinKLEau You forget to add, these business people and politicians they bought, tried to seduce China and failed. Anybody watched "Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon" ? that's a mediocre to horrible movie, people flying around defying the law of physics, not to mention cheesy story line,... ha ha...so weird ! even for the average chinese viewers..We do watch stupid kung fu movies with people flying around but we knew they were with no pretense of being an artsy film...Ang lee is soooo overrated! lol. All my Chinese friends baffled and then laughed when we heard it won an Oscar...at that time we didn't get it.. but it is obvious now.
@ameyapotdar461
@ameyapotdar461 2 жыл бұрын
make a video of china's domestically produced 28nm lithography machines please
@jefvan536
@jefvan536 2 жыл бұрын
dint you see the latest repot on news??just look it at US repot news,,i belive they post it on china news to...china been catch seeling 7nm,that what make the westren lost they PRIDE,,,of all the sangstion china catch up relly fast,,,
@giulianoapostata
@giulianoapostata 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, brilliant as always. Perhaps becoming aware that our democratic system based mainly on suffrage, and that in the concept of universal suffrage it finds its identity, is deeply in crisis in our Western societies where equality is a chimera we could look at China with curiosity instead of animosity
@kaimingraymondchoi9909
@kaimingraymondchoi9909 2 жыл бұрын
Whether it is autocracy, meritocracy, democracy, as long as the current government is supported by its people, then it works for the country. On the other hand if the people is not happy with the government polarization is going to tear the country apart. Under such circumstances, the government is more interested to protect their own ass instead of doing what's right for its people.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose if you only ever hear positive things about a government why would you ever be dissatisfied with them? Especially when information is so tightly controlled. People in China are living in an alternative reality where it is normal for governments to arbitrarily take away passports, restrict life choices based on parents hukou, have to pay doctors bribes to make sure your operation goes well, etc. You won't get a knock on the door in America for discussing negative aspects of the country online, in China it is a definite possibility. Chinese are not idiots, of course people will say they support the government.
@Oztralian
@Oztralian 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. On the point of China making cheap unreliable things, I have this to illustrate. My entire Victorinox handle broke off after only a light tap. I bought myself a Hezhen chopper from China. It is a little more pricey than the normal Chinese product, but nothing compared to a Western chopper in price. It turned out to be the best buy you can make. Not only is it beautiful and solid, the sharpness is exceptional. I don't think any others could compete. China can definitely make outstanding things if only the buyers were not that cheapskate. I hope China goes into things of quality so that, like Japan, all products Chinese will be held in high esteem
@lisalawchan1703
@lisalawchan1703 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know that Americans are the ones who love to buy China’s cheap products. They are the ones who went to China to demand 10 in 1 gadgets for US$10. They don’t care if it would last as long as they can sell in their market. LOL 😅
@lisalawchan1703
@lisalawchan1703 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly when China first started opening up their industrial market, they have no choice but to produce cheap products to compete in order to survive in the competitive market. So if buyers squeezed price, what can they do? Think of ways to cut cost in order to survive. End result is the more you squeeze, the cheaper it becomes and the product eventually becomes cheapskate products. But I must say, nowadays a lot of China’s products have evolved to good quality and inexpensive products. I was personally impressed with a lot of good products we bought from Tao Bao at very inexpensive prices.
@Oztralian
@Oztralian 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, US wanted cheap things so China has to cut corners (and they are pretty good at that! A shorter wire here, cutting cloth barely long enough for the seam, a thinner material there lol). To get out of poverty, they needed to do that. Now it is time to make things that last and of superior quality that rival the Japanese standard. I know they are getting there😁
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your analysis John Ng - you bought a cheap knife from China and it did not fall apart, ergo China must be paradise compared to the evil West.
@Oztralian
@Oztralian 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandergroom Another Banana who wish he could bleach himself.
@georgehuang9876
@georgehuang9876 2 жыл бұрын
Your are sincere, love you
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheTraveler2222
@TheTraveler2222 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pascal, we need more balanced views on China since the western MSM will definitely not be impartial. Subscribed!
@tankimhai7665
@tankimhai7665 2 жыл бұрын
Well Mr Pascal your comments is quite fair but the term of expression favor the west. One thing we must accept is Asian thinking cannot be the same as Western.
@handaxia1251
@handaxia1251 2 жыл бұрын
It is true. However, it is not healthy. Modern day expression is mostly in social media like twitter, facebook, etc that are censored and controlled and shaped into the form THEY want you to hear or sea. When Twitter can shut up US president twit, the no 1 man in US, then you have a problem.
@TomChenLife
@TomChenLife 2 жыл бұрын
**STARTING TO FEEL YELLOW PERIL COMING BACK AGAIN???** **IT NEVER WENT AWAY!!!!**
@xz1891
@xz1891 2 жыл бұрын
You are not only knowledgeable, but also just
@andysammy6129
@andysammy6129 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for discussing human rights in the way you did, your thinking process is very intricate
@paul5773
@paul5773 2 жыл бұрын
What you said is simple. Every word being used to blame china, also can be used to blame opponents of china. You can do same thing standing for terrorist against police if you’d like
@novzan
@novzan 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think comparing real Terrorist and police is apple to apple, but hey....I am open minded please enlighten me Sir.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
I would disagree on that. Very different thing.
@jopesulaiman
@jopesulaiman 2 жыл бұрын
@@novzan is it terrorist exist?you can put a words to suit any agenda.
@novzan
@novzan 2 жыл бұрын
@@jopesulaiman I don't know Sir...., but Boko Haram seems legit ..
@cashflownpv
@cashflownpv Ай бұрын
You know what I call freedom? The the ability to walk at 2:00AM anywhere in my city to eat street food without getting beaten, shot and mugged. Another freedom is not being confronted by drugs, graffiti and the poor homeless. I equate 'true freedom with real safety.'
@frankyeo8931
@frankyeo8931 Ай бұрын
Very interesting. I have subscribed
@narayankarky2557
@narayankarky2557 2 жыл бұрын
what about world terrorism of USA .
@charlesyang4923
@charlesyang4923 2 жыл бұрын
Two observations here. Firstly, system or process can not gurantee the best interest of populase. Because western political leader can be elected to run their country thru enfranchised system, but can NOT gurantee the quality governance of leader elected. Secondly, results has the final call. Chinese political system has universal suffrage in bottom political level, but upward mobolity all way to the top is only enabled thru merit system which is a practical and methodological way of proving governance.
@johndrumpf9888
@johndrumpf9888 2 жыл бұрын
"Merit" hahahha. Right. So it's merit when one faction gains power, has the other side arrested and tried in secret courts?
@michaelwoo4123
@michaelwoo4123 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome and resonating!
@j91632
@j91632 Жыл бұрын
This was a VERY informative video and #8 the political aspect was dead on.. Thanks
@Sam-ob4vg
@Sam-ob4vg 2 жыл бұрын
Colonialism still breathing well, except it is now disguised as part of the extended territories of its mother country, for example USA has twelve territories such as Guam, Hawaii etc. Same with France which has even more. They should return these lands to the locals and pay compensations for the damages they inflicted.
@noelborbon6155
@noelborbon6155 2 жыл бұрын
The UK and Netherlands too have overseas possessions
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure there is a great deal of political self determination going on, the people in those islands choose to not be independent because it is in their self interest. If they want independence they can get it. Try saying the same thing about Taiwan, Xinjiang, Mongolia, or Tibet.
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
@怜深薄 sure, Catalonia, the Falklands, Gibraltar, Scotland, Corsica, Tibet, Taiwan, Xinjiang, they should all be permitted independence if the people so choose. What is your point? Do you not agree?
@alexandergroom
@alexandergroom 2 жыл бұрын
@怜深薄 What a peculiar thing to say. I have not asked to be independent, I am not a Taiwanese being subjugated by a bullying and despotic neighbour.
@longcimb
@longcimb 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Pascal for trying to put all the differences in one book or in the clip. I think most Chinese look at deliverables and result oriented as against talk only and no action. Individual freedom trend of neo liberalism of allowing everything in human desires is disorderly and chaotic as against set of evolved community laws for the society good is promoted in China. The community laws guaranteed safety and protecting basic human rights to the people at large. And West also fail to see that if any appointed official did not do the job properly, they get the sacked. That's accountability which in a democracy, the chap may not have to face the penalty if he belong to the 1 per cent elite group. You may have a senate hearing but do you think it is working. How many responsible culprits have actually beat the system. Why is there no action taken against Assange allegation on certain powerful persons. That's my opinion. Thanks again.
@stephenlock7236
@stephenlock7236 2 жыл бұрын
Not just your opinion, but the fact.
@bikinglikebecker
@bikinglikebecker 2 жыл бұрын
If you ask people who live in the west, they will mostly say our "leaders" have double standards...
@jensensean7118
@jensensean7118 2 жыл бұрын
Ordinary fols in the West are normally quite simple and friendly, but their voices will never be heard in public media. Only the biased, corrupted, and malicious ones will have their voices heard and their decisions accepted. This raelly puts Democracy per se to shame.
@johnpereztwo6059
@johnpereztwo6059 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime we point our finger at others , three are pointed at ourselves . Think about this . China has very different culture and is an old civilization . Usa is barely 200++ years old .
@gmanhan8305
@gmanhan8305 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Pascal has only less than 60k subscribers. Great job YT.
@relaxwhc
@relaxwhc 2 жыл бұрын
You speak slowly for this video, must be conveying something important 👍
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens 2 жыл бұрын
I try to slow down a little.
@ssartre5240
@ssartre5240 2 жыл бұрын
Excelente análisis, como siempre!
@xuezhuguan1305
@xuezhuguan1305 Жыл бұрын
It's like a couple fighting each other, each person only talks about what good I've done and what bad you've done
@qake2021
@qake2021 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍😃👌👌👌
@KY-jh3cx
@KY-jh3cx 2 жыл бұрын
Double standard in mind is the reflection of double-universe life in reality. Chinese live in a single-universe world, the natural world, so they only need to deal with challenges from the physical world. People, especially nowadays politicians, in the west live in double-universe world, natural and ideological overlapping, so right hand fighting against left hand is common.
@derrychen6923
@derrychen6923 Жыл бұрын
"not so nice to China 200 years ago" , as a Chinese, i will never forget our history
@derrychen6923
@derrychen6923 Жыл бұрын
"checks and balances" LMAO
@rohand03
@rohand03 2 жыл бұрын
You're too kind in your description of the West behaviors Pascal.
@kwokholuk8723
@kwokholuk8723 2 жыл бұрын
He is American. He is afraid his own people will accuse him as a traitor.
@kwokholuk8723
@kwokholuk8723 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he is afraid his own people will defame him as a traitor.
@dyong888
@dyong888 2 жыл бұрын
We lie cheat and steal - Pompeo
@abz2000123
@abz2000123 2 жыл бұрын
The one child policy was a part of the one China policy - u.s NSSM200 by Henry Kissinger explains how it works.
@tangwangkid6844
@tangwangkid6844 2 ай бұрын
In this world:- One man's food to another man is poisoned. One man God to another man is Devi One man's Heaven to another man is Hell. Who is right and who is wrong?
@aurorachen5068
@aurorachen5068 2 жыл бұрын
A model of double standards:BBC
@jimrule8652
@jimrule8652 2 жыл бұрын
Australia has forces labour that people are doing a week work and not enough to pay the bills and food a homeless
@KC-pm2mf
@KC-pm2mf 10 ай бұрын
I watched a video just few days ago. China selected a successor for president Shi when president Shi ready to retire.
@lemanlie4921
@lemanlie4921 2 жыл бұрын
Great conten.
@shlee3120
@shlee3120 2 жыл бұрын
Democracy at all cost,despite homeless ness,no health care,no education n no opportunities.ask anyone on earth what he wants? Nothing is free.Democracy comes with responsibilities as well.🙏🙏🙏pray for logical n rational n peace on earth!!
@technatezin
@technatezin 2 жыл бұрын
Western electoral democracy is nothing more than two or more factions of the business class haggling over business deals and contracts. They do NOT represent the general population and the so-called representatives that are elected by the population are NOT accountable to the general population. This comes as a complete shock to people visiting or immigrating from China where government officials are sacked or imprisoned if they screw up and their policies or decisions negatively affects the people they are tasked to govern. They'll ask Americans who in government was sacked after a disaster hits like a mass shooting or product safety failure (Tesla accidents for example). How many people in government in the US was sacked after corrupt police officers were discovered and convicted for example? Again, it comes as no surprise to people who already know how corrupt the US "democratic" system is, so it's expected and treated as business as usual, but it comes as a shock to people who come from a country where people in government are NOT immune to being sacked or imprisoned.
@johndrumpf9888
@johndrumpf9888 2 жыл бұрын
@@technatezin Government officials are also sacked for being in the losing coalition/party faction. The criminals on the other side go free. There are like 150+ billionaires in the Chinese parliament. You wanna talk corruption?
@Ray89135
@Ray89135 Жыл бұрын
Copy? Who copied silk production, tea, porcelain, compass, paper, printing, stirup, gunpowder, etc. All invented in China.
@tashiyann3262
@tashiyann3262 Жыл бұрын
when Russian missiles came into Cuba and become the Cuban missile crisis the same thing came up to china and against Taiwan and the United States supported Taiwan and Ukraine. why ?? I really don't understand and it's not fair.
@HaraldinChina
@HaraldinChina Жыл бұрын
well done
@ariaantoroatang7720
@ariaantoroatang7720 2 жыл бұрын
I am Chinese.... forever Chinese
@oleh9799
@oleh9799 2 жыл бұрын
Great and factual video as always Pascal 👍 From : Singapore 🇸🇬
@chrisbell238
@chrisbell238 Жыл бұрын
There is no Moral equivalence .... things can be absolute
@OhFookinELL
@OhFookinELL 2 жыл бұрын
This video was brilliant and enjoyable. Thanks.!
@derekeano
@derekeano Жыл бұрын
This was well done! I loved the different perspectives
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MichBel307
@MichBel307 2 жыл бұрын
China: We strive to work hard on building infrastructure, developing our manufacturing industry for the prosperity of our country and for the improvement of the quality of people 's lives. The West: We have to steal, rob or lie to get resources from other weaker countries. We are white. We are better than them. They have to succumb to us. And there are some clear-headed people like me, who have seen through these, please read part of this article appeared on a British newspaper but not written by a British: China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end.
@aftereffects00
@aftereffects00 2 жыл бұрын
You see the US is so freedom, Every day a lot of people enjoy shooting.. I mean one people shooting at a group of people.. if I have 2 choices to Choose between US and China I prefer living in China because I don't like shooting... Sorry..my English grammar is not good because I translated from my native language to English.. :D
@fei5383
@fei5383 Жыл бұрын
good man.
@g.m.8360
@g.m.8360 2 жыл бұрын
The bottom line comes to results in the long term of what have you done for your people and your country no matter what words you labeled it. Everyone always protect their family right or wrong that hold true in their country. It’s really bad when you try to tell someone how to live who gives you the right to so. Good you open the minds of some people to think not sure if it is really working until something kicks them in the butt. Arrogance ignorance and lack of knowledge is the problem what you say and what you do tells who you are are you really good or bad?
@tashiyann3262
@tashiyann3262 Жыл бұрын
when Russian missiles came into Cuba and become the Cuban missile crisis the same thing came up to china and against Taiwan and the United States supported Taiwan and Ukraine. why ?? I really don't understand and it's not feir.
@flywing2000
@flywing2000 Жыл бұрын
Very rational talk, very impressed with the objective analysis. The speaker has a good understanding of China, which is very rare. Good job!
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alexroldan4031
@alexroldan4031 Жыл бұрын
A very good article! An eye opener for the west particularly western politicians.
@shaochongzhang8456
@shaochongzhang8456 2 жыл бұрын
We all know that to be open minded and step out of our own comfort zone to see the world and other nations with unconscious bias is important. unfortunately in today's world with full of political, economical and cultural competition it is very hard to do so because the media with a lot of influence is directing you not to do so. and from the bottom of people's hard we all want to prove to be better than others, so competion is evitable.
@juanitody5650
@juanitody5650 2 жыл бұрын
So which is good and better Communist democracy or US democracy ?
@gannoifong7979
@gannoifong7979 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained
@lorrycamill6502
@lorrycamill6502 Жыл бұрын
Joey and Hunter Obiden made millions from China 🇨🇳 they can’t say nothing 20 per cent for big guy Joey
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