THEY CALLED THEIR BRAND WHAT?! Nice frame tho...

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THEY CALLED THEIR BRAND WHAT?! Nice frame tho...

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bit.ly/BIGROCK... - Check them out
Never judge a book by it's cover... Never judge a bike by the logo on the downtube? One of the biggest surprises I've had in the past few months. The overall quality and value for money is super impressive.
Will do a full review soon, so lemme know what questions you have.

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@seraph4581 5 ай бұрын

Pretty rad. I'd totally replace that R decal for another C.

@joninoj214 5 ай бұрын

I'd add some rooster decals to go with that in XL Size

@richardcarr6493 5 ай бұрын

white out the top of the R to a K

@lancercool1992 24 күн бұрын

Just tape over the R and let people figure

@skinheadjc 5 ай бұрын

'how much do you have to Trace vello stuff' 😂😂😂 the man's become an verb 😂

@nickk1658 5 ай бұрын

I believe it's a verb, not adjective. It comes from the Latin "Trace vēlāre" meaning "to overcome a design or manufacturing flaw via the means of a hack, bodge, or other impromptu MacGyver." In the present indicative tense, it is conjugated thusly: Trace vēlō Trace vēlās Trace vēlat Trace vēlāmus Trace vēlātis Trace vēlant The verb is used in the famous Latin saying, "Non est vivere sed Trace valere vita est" which means, "There's more to life than bodging crappy bike parts." There is a derivative valediction, "Trace vale," literally "God be with your hack" used to mean, "Until we overcome some crappy Temu products again."

@einarhays 5 ай бұрын

Man come up with the whole origin story of trace velo 😂

@MiserereMei 5 ай бұрын

Came here to write this, but was upstaged by @nickk1658 😄

@nickk1658 5 ай бұрын

@@einarhays Only the origins of the verb, not of the legend.

@chris1275cc 5 ай бұрын

I once saw some shoe insoles on AliExpress that were advertised as having a "Like stepping on sh!t feeling" I of course purchased immediately 🤣

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

SOLD!

@ashchbkv6965 5 ай бұрын

lmao i lived in china and i know mandarin, and let me tell you that it's exactly how they advertise those shoes and shoe products, it's literal translation

@imrevadasz1086 5 ай бұрын

After Hardrock (specialized) and Coldrock (giant), Bigrock actually seems like a very acceptable name for a bike or bike-brand 😅.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

I didnt even think about Hardrock...

@keven-matthewlarrivee-font2678 5 ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling let's not forget Rockrider from Decathlon

@dasauto7346 5 ай бұрын

There's a Chinese steel bike brand named Darkrock too. I don't mind these names myself.

@FurySpyder 5 ай бұрын

I don't have a problem with the name per se, but it does seem more aligned with MTB bikes than road bikes maybe?

@tyrdle 5 ай бұрын

Hotrock and Rockhopper too

@jamescaldwell5 5 ай бұрын

Not sure about the UK, but in the US Big Rock wouldn’t imply anything inappropriate, actually seems fitting on a mountain bike.

@wilsonwilliam4510 5 ай бұрын

“As it starts getting bigger it starts to look more normal 😂”

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

That was wasn't even intentional. Oh lord.

@jbratt 5 ай бұрын

"That's what she said..."

@TheXiamenCyclingFeed 5 ай бұрын

Dripping with innuendos 😂

@ivandominguez7249 5 ай бұрын

I think that the chinese brands have a problem with naming in general but its insane😂

@mrrodriguezHLP 5 ай бұрын

I think China has very strict laws on outsourcing work to other countries. A Chinese bike company who wants to attract a Western market is having a tough time going to a Western marketing/advertising/PR company to do contract work. Those companies might be wary of doing work with China as they sign away their rights and intellectual property to them.

@ivarbrouwer197 5 ай бұрын

@@mrrodriguezHLPmaybe so, but calling an (international) friend just to get some feedback is the least you should do. As a UX designer I often get some feedback of friends to get the most obvious things validated before doing real research

@dukeofcebu 5 ай бұрын

i want to ride bigrock with PNS kit 😂😂😂

@bonbonflippers4298 5 ай бұрын

I Knew someone with bring out the PNS joke!

@galenkehler 5 ай бұрын

Here in Canada you can go to a bar and get a Big Rock beer, its a brewery and restaurant chain with a few different locations. I dont think I would have thought anything was off if you hadn't said anything 😂

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Hey barkeep, give me a froffy bigrock please. :)

@cyclopenguin 5 ай бұрын

Someone had a brainstorming session with Hambini regarding the brand name 😂

@8paolo96 5 ай бұрын

Always check if the BigPen is working

@borano2031 5 ай бұрын

Obviously, Hambini won. Rgr

@kimwarner6050 5 ай бұрын

Hell yeah I would buy this bike. Also looks like 27.2 seat post. I love that this gives you lots of options to customize b/c its not alot of proprietary parts. I think the price is great.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Yup, 27.2mm seatpost. It's ticking the right boxes.

@Speedy.V 5 ай бұрын

Bigrock is huge in the Brazil markets. Mostly on the MTB side of things. I see their full sus xc bikes a lot on Instagram.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

The South American market fascinates me, such an unknown world...

@Speedy.V 5 ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling oh it's an incredibly lucrative world. There's a huge market for hardtail mountain bikes in all of central and south America. There's also a huge road bike scene in Colombia and Venezuela. Look up Scarab bikes. I'm more into mountain bikes so I follow that the most. I see Twitter bikes, trinx factory racing that ride on repainted Lexon frames, plenty of sava frames, specialized epic hardtail and Scott hardtail close, and the list goes on. You name it it's there.

@ynie1 5 ай бұрын

I like the sizing options (I've been looking to build a bike for my wife after pregnancy, and would probably go for a XXS). I'm not a fan of the brand name, but would consider the stealth black edition.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, the stealth black one you can't really see the logo... meep! And yes, this makes a great bike for shorter partners. I hate seeing bikes with like 2cm of seatpost sticking out.

@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST 5 ай бұрын

May be best not to buy her the black stealth version after pregnancy, Joe says the frame rides pretty hard..

@PeakTorque 5 ай бұрын

Thomas De Gendts favourite brand!

@scherzo0o 5 ай бұрын

Nice things you're showing us here... I'd be interested in a BigRock equivalent of the Crux bike (S-works version). Do they make such a thing?

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Not yet, but that would be rad.

@marcelginter209 5 ай бұрын

my next bike to climb big rocks: -team edition -9Velo LV 2.0 35 wheels -Cybrai carbon cranks -Ultegra sweet!

@TheXiamenCyclingFeed 5 ай бұрын

Yeah that's a dope lineup!

@MrVizzle 5 ай бұрын

Was hoping for something more flashy. Like Bigcock. Imagine telling your friends what you ride, what you love to ride. Well they could just see...

@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST 5 ай бұрын

Hey I want a BIGROCK CNUT... Joe I think you can sort this... Good lad. Seriously I love the fact there is a standard shape seat post, old school 🚸.... Love it mate👍👍👍👍

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

It's (relatively) cheap, it has a threaded bottom bracket, nice round tubes, standard seat post.... if it was rim brake, I'd be over the moon! I'm not claiming its the best bike in the world, but for the price, it's damn impressive. Anyway, full review after i have more miles on the other two.

@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST 5 ай бұрын

@@ChinaCycling I like what they have done with the classic looks of the frame.. I like the way round tubes look and ride.. Keep up the great work Joe👍👍👍

@rotecrl9719 5 ай бұрын

Already waiting for someone at a café with a SuperSix Evo labeled "Lol69" instead of "Lab71"

@eq4ever 2 ай бұрын

I'm still waiting for your bigger review of this frame but meanwhile have a question: how is it on fast descents? Is it stable when you're riding your proper size? I'm asking because I own a near-perfect Seka Exceed built down to 6.6kg, but the problem is... I hate riding it downhill. It's so twitchy that it feels like it will flip under me whenever I get hit by any side wind. I've already tried making any bike fit tweaks possible, they helped a bit but it's still nowhere near nice handling. I'm seriously considering ditching all the aero nonsense and going back to an old-school, round tubed climbing bike like this. I ride mostly long days in the saddle in proper mountains, no racing if that changes anything. Would love to hear your opinion.

@Natuh21 5 ай бұрын

My bike is orange and it says "SHOW" on the frame, so I wouldn't care at all lol. For those of you who saw the previous videos know which group set is coming 😉

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Haha, yes, this video was supposed to come out before Taiwan, but i was too busy to edit, hehe.

@MichaelSmith-em7pv 5 ай бұрын

I just got a Airwolf gravel frame for $768USD? Big Rock is asking $1600USD?? No go for me 🤔

@joris818 5 ай бұрын

I bought the Bigrock Skyline integrated handlebars. Planning to mount them to my 2024 Giant Propel. Good to see they make good stuff !

@rokitprops 5 ай бұрын

3 Bigrocks, Joe? You are legendary indeed, most of us have to make do with L-twoo...

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

;) if you know, you know. Live long and prosper.

@dustyhoods 5 ай бұрын

Size XL and bigger should get "Big Boy edition" sticker.

@guidonvanonder 5 ай бұрын

Haha amazing how you actually got all the jokes out of the way 🤣

@simontaylor8880 4 ай бұрын

Joe, you've got to get them to rebrand and rename, there's no way myself or anyone I know will buy it when it sounds like a bike you might get from the Aldi discount aisle!

@christoph3805 5 ай бұрын

If it'snot Big C...ck,everything is ok😂

@lekobiashvili945 5 ай бұрын

,including Small C..ck

@bobtahar 5 ай бұрын

From thumbnail I already knew it was Bigrock because couple of years ago they bring in a lot of cheap MTB frame to Malaysia.

@Araya_Cycling 3 ай бұрын

That’s a pretty good bike and a pretty good video, congrats 👏🏼

@ChinaCycling 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@user-ch7di8pl9i 5 ай бұрын

Looks mega. Like the geometry for the shorter legged rider. Curious about the cable routing for the integrated bar and stem and what it’s like to live with on the daily. Also curious what the quality control is like and how the standards/quality differ from frame to frame. Looking forward to the next video.

@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 5 ай бұрын

Your channel started off with promise of unveiling the incredible Chinese bike market to become a outlet for somewhat niche brands. How Shenzhen first technology ltd with their TWITTER bikes is overlooked is confusing with a catalog that rivaled Trek cycles nose to nose in every category. Please report on the big companies with their ridiculous good deals that actually work. Still love this channel.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

They're not overlooked, they just don't reply to my emails. 🤷‍♂️

@flemmingpedersen5927 5 ай бұрын

I think it looks fine - wouldn’t have thought of anything “dirty” about the name😅 I think the pricing seems ok. Brands like Winspace and Yoeleo have gottwn too expensive in relation to their after market service and warranty possibilities.

@slowridr 5 ай бұрын

I have a Rock Machine bike already. No issue with saying I have a Big Rock. 😅

@stevegoede8059 5 ай бұрын

Can you please include size tables with the frames.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

There's geometry and recommend height to size guide on the website. Link in description.

@christianrodriguez3531 5 ай бұрын

Bigrack would have been even better name.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

I think thats the cargobike brand?

@christianrodriguez3531 5 ай бұрын

How about bigcrack?🍑😝

@rudyelizondo1935 5 ай бұрын

If this bike rides like an Athos, then hell yeah I’m interested!!

@jonathan_f2 5 ай бұрын

The name is fine. Better than Winspace, Yoeleo, Hygge or Elves. That Team Edition frame looks awesome. Maybe it's time for me to sell some of my bikes and build a dedicated climber!

@hockeyiscanada 5 ай бұрын

Good name for mtb

@dylanl9532 5 ай бұрын

Big rock is coming out with an aero version (tarmac SL7 / factor clone). I'm keen to hear if that one has equal if not better quality than this one

@TheBassallyear100 2 ай бұрын

did they clear coat over the big rock branding or just apply the branding as decals over the clear coat? can probably fix that sole issue in a snap if the latter. would be great if they offered an unbranded version almost akin to the frame its inspiration is drawn from.

@asebaninja 5 ай бұрын

Better than xpedo pedals

@Romaath 5 ай бұрын

I'd actually be interested in this frame. The carbon option looks nice. Shame that the ... biggest ... is 56 (recommended up to 184cm). I`m 194 and while I wouldnt be opposed to go a bit ... smaller ... that seems a bit so small EDIT:// Just noticed that there is a 58 selectable, but no further data available

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, they recently added the 58... need to add the geometry.

@schultzy1971 5 ай бұрын

Nice. I hear there is gravel frame coming out from Bigrock....let us know!

@iMadrid11 5 ай бұрын

If the brand is going to stick with the Big Rock name. They need to freshen up the logo with a better font.

@BrianAndTheBike 5 ай бұрын

It just be perfect if Winspace launches a "Uranus" Wheelset.

@chadconley454 2 ай бұрын

Any chance the 700x30 clearance rating is conservative? I'm interested, but pretty set on wanting my next frame to clear at least 700x32

@mtbikesam68 5 ай бұрын

I enjoy your channel and videos! It is so fascinating to see all of the products and engineering that is not so known or available in the USA. I have a suggestion or maybe it is a request/question. Do you think you would ever broaden your horizons and explore mountain biking in China? I ask for a couple reasons. I think it would be cool to see what that is like over there but also to expand your channel and perhaps even products on Panda Podium. If not, do you know of anyone on YT who may already be doing a kind of China Cycling on single track? Being a mountain biker but also someone who loves all bikes and especially bike tech, I would really enjoy that kind of content. Keep up the good work! Cheers!

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, lots of people asking for MTB coverage, but my knowledge base and skill level are too low.. I can't really review the stuff if I'm not pushing it to the edge, and I don't know what to look for... will have to find another guy or gal to join the team who knows their stuff...

@mtbikesam68 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply! Too bad I can't move to China!@@ChinaCycling

@Eirikkinserdal 5 ай бұрын

I first though it was Blackrock 😂 This could be a killer rimbrake frame too..

@wickedgravity101 5 ай бұрын

Hi Joe ! What are the pedals on te black bike at 2"43 ? It looks like a wellgo logo, but it's hard to be sure... Thanks !

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Yup! A tiny Wellgo pedal.

@Stefanosinf 5 ай бұрын

Kudos for thinking outside the box for the seatpost for us smaller riders.... 650 or 700 Wheels? I hope the went with 650...

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

I love 650C, but so hard to find good 650C tires these days!

@adamcoppock5018 5 ай бұрын

I am so tempted to setup a decent marking and brand agency in China.

@Ghostina1 5 ай бұрын

Love the interfierence sound... Do you have speakers from the 90*s around with an old Nokia Phone????

@santiagobenites 5 ай бұрын

I'd definitely ride a BIGROCK if someone gave one to me. It looks great! 👍😁

@valiantabello 5 ай бұрын

I like big rocks and i cannot lie/ you other cyclists cant deny That when a bike walks in with a itty bitty waist/ and a BigRock in your face You get sprung, wanna pull up tough/ cause you noticed that rear triangle was stuffed/deep in the rims shes wearing/im hooked and I can't stop staring

@gregclark7060 5 ай бұрын

BigBalls name on a bike would be for the AC/DC fans. Like most budget China frames, time and miles will be the true test.

@hermanJabc 5 ай бұрын

How straight are these frames??? I've experience with two Chinese brands (BXT and ChasingWind) and both frames were not straight. If you let go of the handlebar, the bike is not going straight and you have to lean to one side to make it go straight.

@nicoladigerlando23 5 ай бұрын

I would ride it for sure!! I will be the first one in Italy😂😂😂.

@TomDeLombaerde 5 ай бұрын

CAN YOU GET THE FRAME WITHOUT THE DECALS?

@stanzapalny2123 5 ай бұрын

The actual question should be can you get just the decals

@dailowhui 5 ай бұрын

love your video. I know bigrock have an aero frame, would like to have a video about it. Also there is a pretty new brand called Kossea with an aero frame too but have not much info, would like to know more about it

@Dustydayzz 5 ай бұрын

the problem is their frames are extremely small. their geometry is so tailored to asian body type(favors the long torso short legs). foreigners might struggle getting a good size because of the leg length. there just isnt enough seatpost especially if you are over 6ft and if u are all legs and no torso forget it.

@zazzleman 5 ай бұрын

No decals would be the best option if they had it.

@richardcarr6493 5 ай бұрын

why did they not fit 650 b wheels to fit uber tiny people and give them a better fit ??

@Nico-jt8ll 5 ай бұрын

The angle of the front derailleur is odd: How is the shifting?

@cinnabar56 5 ай бұрын

At 2:43, what's up with the front mech frayed cable end, Tom needs to up his game a bit! I enjoyed the vid though,

@2deaf4sound 5 ай бұрын

me laughing like a twelve year old... :D

@matejzima8210 5 ай бұрын

Solution to this could be custom naming? I mean, even the font is fine and many bike brands offer custom paint jobs. This brilliant bike could offer custom text on a bike? That'd be cool, I'd call mine "Nimbus 2000" or something even more cringe.

@kailexx1962 5 ай бұрын

I'm starting my own bike line. The name will be "Engorged" or "Tumescent"

@sylvainmichaud2262 5 ай бұрын

At 674g, I hope it's stiff enough. Otherwise it would take big balls to come up with a name like this.

@kidShibuya 5 ай бұрын

The issue with small frames is that they are usually too stiff (length and height shrink, tube diameter doesn't), so no issues there.

@AZ-vg6li 5 ай бұрын

from what I understand,reading the comments ,this “ big rock”that comes in xxs or xs sizes is a UK matter.😂😊

@martinhotan8946 5 ай бұрын

almost Hambini style ... 🤣

@weitingxu8807 5 ай бұрын

Hey Joe, thoughts on their upcoming aero frame?

@arturhirsch2908 5 ай бұрын

Hi Joe, unfortunately I haven't seen it on PandaPodium nor have you mentioned anything regarding the rider weight limits. Do you happen to know them and does the maximum permissible total weight limit differ between the 'team' edition and the 'normal' edition? I'm definitely not a 45kg rider 😅

@cornelhughes6763 5 ай бұрын

I asked them via the chat option and they state its 100 KG for both versions

@kristiaandoms2822 5 ай бұрын

I am very interested in buying one, but I am worried the Team edition will be to flexible or fragile to last, or am I wrong. I am 1.77m tall and weigh 38Kg. Great frame though!

@markifi 5 ай бұрын

38 kilos?

@kristiaandoms2822 5 ай бұрын

sorry, 68kg @@markifi

@stuartdryer1352 5 ай бұрын

Stiffer and more responsive!

@user-cl5ru4ng3y 5 ай бұрын

Wonder what the weight limit is on these lightweight frames.

@eoinfitzgibbon8729 5 ай бұрын

Do they do a rim brake version

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Nope. :(

@patrickrohr9314 5 ай бұрын

thy look like great frames if they whould be available in raw carbon finish withouth BR on it. a true bargain 🙂

@estelja 5 ай бұрын

Joe, do you ever get requests from these Chinese companies to check over their naming and promotional grammar to make sense to English speakers? If not, they should start requesting that and paying you for proofreading services.

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

I offer this service, they all think they don't need it. :)

@williammorris4419 5 ай бұрын

Can this frame be used for a gravel build and whats the largest size tire it will take? Medium frame weight?

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

All info on the Panda Podium website... max tire size only 30mm, so no good for gravel.

@donwinston 5 ай бұрын

The downward sloping top tube turns me off.

@kimwarner6050 5 ай бұрын

Joe it says the bike can come with a 340 mm handlebar. Could the a diagram with all the specs of the handlebar be put up on the website. Also does the XXS frame have two water bottle mounts?

@ChinaCycling 5 ай бұрын

Good call for the handlebar specs... will add later today.

@RageStudios 2 ай бұрын

I got a bigrock too, hahaha

@harrywang2566 5 ай бұрын

Would this be my upgrade for my 8th Gen TCR adv 2😊

@EvoRides 5 ай бұрын

Vertically stiff and laterally compliant?

@junkandcrapamen 5 ай бұрын

Really don't see the issue with the name unless you're 10.

@rickpatinama5363 3 ай бұрын

Is there toe overlap on the small sizes ?

@gongalab 5 ай бұрын

sticker doesn t bother me at all not only i would ride it i think within a month i ll order one piece its rare bike in europe and its very light.

@NoahStephens 5 ай бұрын

I used to think Chinese brands were bad at translating. Now, I think they are doing this shit on purpose 😂

@u.e.u.e. 5 ай бұрын

At least they branded their stiff tubes with a "r". 😂

@iansingleton 5 ай бұрын

Bigrock sounds ok! I mean GIANT? SPECIAIZED(with a Z)? WINSPACE? Are there any stupid names anymore? Are there any cool names?

@scherzo0o 5 ай бұрын

P.S. Ass long as it"s not a LargeKant, I'd ride pretty much any brand ;)

@ariffau 5 ай бұрын

Still waiting for a brand called Dig Bick or something 😂

@glennoc8585 5 ай бұрын

Thr biggest let down is the brand names from China. Trifox is a silly logo its very supermarket sounding.

@andrewb6541 5 ай бұрын

perfect frame for a weightweenie budget build ?

@JZTNDL 3 ай бұрын

Hey man. Can this frame fit a 32c tire?

@dcv9460 5 ай бұрын

Will they sell a "bare" frame? - without any branding?

@jackwhale8152 5 ай бұрын

check the microphone plz, so many buzzing noise in the background

@brockjennings 5 ай бұрын

Stiff, yet compliant???

@stanzapalny2123 5 ай бұрын

My usual stance is that marketing people are mostly useless, but this proves me wrong