That "nice park" is Columbus park lol - which is fine during the day but is uhhh, "interesting" at night to say the least.
@Maravillante3 жыл бұрын
CITY WOK!!! (oh boy that killed me XD) Great review guys =)
@brianlewis67813 жыл бұрын
The greatest boardgame reviewers ever.
@BlueTorchWeddings3 жыл бұрын
They truly are
@andrewnewell11423 жыл бұрын
The purest negotiation game
@Doolin_Tablenauts3 жыл бұрын
Such great production put into each episode. You inspire me, dude!
@legonut782 жыл бұрын
SUBSCRIBED!!!! I just found this channel. PERFECT mix of entertainment and content. Plus, the reviews are 100% legit! Thank you! Plus I also appreciate the the realistic feedback on the theme. So many channels want us to avoid all real-life themes involving race, culture, history, and conquest. These things are a real part of life, as is/was Chinatown, and it is okay to have fun with them!
@Shelfside2 жыл бұрын
For real! My family appreciated the theme, over being upset by it. And the gameplay glows harder because of that theme! Cheers! -Ashton
@DenisRyan3 жыл бұрын
I've wanted to play Chinatown since the SU&SD review years ago. It just looked like a whole lot of chaos and laughter. But it was constantly out of print when I went looking for it. After several years, I finally got a chance to play it October last year at SHUX'19 with some friends. It was every bit as fun and funny as I hoped, and fast! And while I appreciate that the theme is less racially insensitive and stereotyped than it appears, I've still been working on a retheme, with the same mechanics, but set on a space station with players building shops in a sci-fi plaza. I thought it would be cool to theme it around Mass Effect, on the Citadel. Take the shops and art from the game. Unfortunately, I need to learn a few new skills before I could make myself a copy. One day.
@jiritsu03 жыл бұрын
Mass Effect Citadel retheme for this sounds awesome! I hope you find time to work on it to make yourself a copy.. and send pictures to BoardGameGeek :P
@RandomPerson-nd2ey3 жыл бұрын
While I would be interested in a similar game with a different theme, I hope that you change enough of the mechanisms in the game to make it different. No offense but simply using the same mechanisms but with different artwork comes across a bit as theft of the original creator's intellectual work and property. On the note about no offense, I don't understand the racial sensitivity issue. It is true that Chinese people in America did face prejudices and restrictions at the time period shown in this game. I feel that this game brings that information to light for people who aren't history buffs. Most History books might have a sentence or two about this despite what a big deal it was. I hope those playing the game get curious about why certain things in it are the way they are and research it. It's important that we learn from the mistakes of the past to understand them, not repeat them in the future, and to recognize (and end) any which are happening today. I'm not of Asian descent myself so I can't claim to understand how someone who is might view this game but I have always viewed as a celebration of perseverance and success despite the struggles they faced. Sure, they were only allowed to run certain types of businesses. They turned those businesses into an empire which is quite impressive. For another example of something which brings this often overlooked bit of history to light, I recommend "The Search for General Tso". I started watching that documentary hoping to learn some fun facts as I enjoyed my dinner of (you guessed it), General Tso Chicken. I finished it with more respect and understanding of the dish and the culture which created it.
@DenisRyan3 жыл бұрын
@@RandomPerson-nd2ey Ummm... I'm not designing a game for sale. I'm thinking of just doing it strictly for myself and no one else. I'm not a designer, and I'm not interested in play testing me rules. Thanks for the lecture?
@crinklechips69502 жыл бұрын
@@DenisRyan calm down beta
@DenisRyan2 жыл бұрын
@@crinklechips6950 Excuse me?!?
@wayner396 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking at this game off and on for about 10 years now and I'm always on the fence. I think my family and friends would enjoy it but something always holds me back from pulling the trigger. You're pros and cons sum up both my hopes and fears for it. Looks fun but I already own so many games. Excellent review. Thank you
@Shelfside Жыл бұрын
Cheers! If you can get the game for a decent price, you might just have great success with your family/friends that the vibe you get will be worth it. I've played with tons of non-board gamers, and it immediately hooked them (and man are people creative with trades!) -Ashton
@sirhc89273 жыл бұрын
God damn, I was torn regarding this game but your review sold it so well now I’m just bothered with this being out of print where I live and in order to get it have to pay Cthulhu Wars prices. It seemed to have been cheap when it was available so I just got myself to blame. Excellent review!
@maxarnoldy39552 жыл бұрын
New to the Chanel and I love you reviews. So you are up their with shut up and sit-down and no pun intended
@Shelfside2 жыл бұрын
heyo! Thanks man! More stuff coming out, cheers :D -Ashton
@Emsworth3773 жыл бұрын
Amazing review of a great game. Well done, guys!
@Shelfside3 жыл бұрын
thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it -Ashton
@lkjkhfggd3 жыл бұрын
Yeh, I feel the same. It's an okay game to play, but there's not enough to work with to make interesting trades happen. Plus, luck plays a big factor. If you draw more things other people need, then you win. I've seen games where someone has nothing good to trade for a round and they just sit and wait for a round. Very big bummer.
@apachence3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Been dying to get a copy. Great point about TTS. I have a group at 6, so it's not perfect. Also..you said you can only business tiles and property cards - but you can trade business on the board and claimed property on the board as well.
@arepasexo6 ай бұрын
Ohh man if this game was for 6 players it would be perfect
@accessibleglobetv69955 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Mailit19873 жыл бұрын
Damn, no time to watch this now, but I left a Like in advance
@bbqturtle3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree - I also got burnt out on the game.
@InfernoVor7 ай бұрын
Honestly this sounds like monopoly, but better.
@bennguyen13139 ай бұрын
What is meant by a Euro game.. solve puzzles collect points or boring? Or cube pusher?
@arepasexo6 ай бұрын
Money based it means its money based
@IslanKleinknecht3 жыл бұрын
I still wouldn't mind a million dollars today.
@joanmoriarity87383 жыл бұрын
If you're still looking for a pure negotiation game that's simpler and quicker than Chinatown, it might be worth your while to track down a copy of Reiner Knizia's "Quo Vadis". Hard to find and the graphic design is super ugly, but the politics get wonderfully messy for such a light game.
@One1Marin3 жыл бұрын
Is there space for this one in my collecttion if I already own Sidereal Confluence?
@Shelfside3 жыл бұрын
I would say so! It's much shorter, easier to teach, and is less intimidating for non-gamers (no asymmetry too). -Ashton
@DeyaViews3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of reviewers rave about this game, but I was always a little hesitant. Part of that is because the majority of (English language) board game designers are white, and themes of colonialism are very prominent in board games. I was worried that the game might be perpetuating racist stereotypes or otherwise be bad in some way. I really appreciate seeing Daniel and Ashton talk about their positive experiences with the game and Ashton talking about his family.
@Shelfside3 жыл бұрын
glad that you enjoyed it! My family wasn't peeved at all about the theme. Hope you could give it a go if its interesting to you! -Ashton
@arthursimsa90052 жыл бұрын
The parenthesis is useless. Most of board game designers are white.