Chinese Power Saver - Does it actually save power?

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In this video I will have a look at two chinese power saver devices, explain how they work and why those might not be a good option to save power. Along the way I will talk about reactive power and distortion reactive power.
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2011 Lookalike by Bartlebeats
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@iceflake7853
@iceflake7853 6 жыл бұрын
These devices actually have the capability to reduce your power consumption by a great factor. You're gonna need a lot of them for this though. You need to connect them to all the outlets in your house. This works because you no longer have any outlets to plug your power hungry devices in anymore.
@yannisgk
@yannisgk 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@kennethkeen4988
@kennethkeen4988 6 жыл бұрын
Ice Flake, good advice. You hit it on the head.
@Mayrik92
@Mayrik92 6 жыл бұрын
lmao 😂😂😂 good one
@daveyq1444
@daveyq1444 6 жыл бұрын
wahahahah trolling urself to consume less haha great idea ahhah
@jasonlisonbee
@jasonlisonbee 5 жыл бұрын
You could save even more money by buying a pack of plastic child safety plugs. Use those instead.
@Nerdforge
@Nerdforge 8 жыл бұрын
Love how you literally picked everything apart and showed us what happened! Great vid man :)
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 8 жыл бұрын
4:36 - That breaker box is beautifully organized. Makes American electrician's wiring look like Thailand workers.
@KrisX7331
@KrisX7331 7 жыл бұрын
and if you thought america brakers are bad you havent seen bulgarian or atleast mine.Since i wanted to change it from old fuse type witha quartz sand and thin wire inside very old time mainly used in USSR and when we opened it jezus christ.It was just a hole in the wall full of 100 types of dead bugs and unreasonably thick wires.The water heater wires were 10mm2 solid copper wire.imagine if you give solid wire to 2 year old kid and let it play whole day.thats what it looked like
@johnwattie1786
@johnwattie1786 6 жыл бұрын
thechosendude *Welp, here in Australia thats how ours are.*
@giin97
@giin97 6 жыл бұрын
Heh... Working with a home inspector, we went to check the breaker box... Air conditioner and furnace were double lugged... To the mains. We both just stared.
@ezzbuttheyshouldntleavethe5529
@ezzbuttheyshouldntleavethe5529 6 жыл бұрын
My breaker in the UK looks just like his
@Bewanofo
@Bewanofo 6 жыл бұрын
What's the problem with Thailand workers?, you racist.
@JorgeVeliz1
@JorgeVeliz1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank God i found this great explanation, my mom wants me to buy one of these crappy devices for her. I will show her this video. Great work.
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 8 жыл бұрын
I guess these are about like all of the expensive products that claim to increase your car's gas mileage, but really don't.
@Raren789
@Raren789 8 жыл бұрын
Woa, 8-bit guy here:P
@KaienSander10Official
@KaienSander10Official 8 жыл бұрын
Never expected you here :O
@OliverHynds
@OliverHynds 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see you here. Hi! love ur vids btw :)
@jindrichvesely9065
@jindrichvesely9065 8 жыл бұрын
What are you doing here ? :D BTW: you have an amazing videos and GreatScott too
@MichelleTamezPerez
@MichelleTamezPerez 8 жыл бұрын
IIRC, the trick with the car's gas milage is the same as explained here. What i've been seeing a lot lately is people recomending replace all the bulbs on the car with LED's more correctly "plasma" LED's to increase mileage, but i think is a joke just as the nitrogen filled tires. Love your videos, im looking for a G5 to build a sleeper monster. Cheers.
@massimookissed1023
@massimookissed1023 8 жыл бұрын
You got a nice anodized aluminium case for a future project :)
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 8 жыл бұрын
...And three huge capacitors.
@GadgetAndKite
@GadgetAndKite 8 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, depending on price the extruded one might be worth it for other projects.
@duettatraktor7949
@duettatraktor7949 8 жыл бұрын
I just checed and it costs aboat $10 US so I would say just for the case its wort it.
@smallenginedude71
@smallenginedude71 8 жыл бұрын
yep. They are 5uf, very small
@thelennipede9382
@thelennipede9382 7 жыл бұрын
hey its a good heatsink
@RobertShippey
@RobertShippey 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen Big Clive talk about this so much, but it’s really nice to see the practical examples on your scope. It helps to understand exactly what’s happening.
@grantw.whitwam9948
@grantw.whitwam9948 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, where I worked we had good size coolers for produce, meat, cheese, etc. We replaced the old ammonia system with 2 new freon systems, which were supposed to save a lot of money. Turned out it about doubled the electric cost. The electricians decided it was feeding back too much unused power back, since the new systems weren't working as hard as the older bigger ammonia compressor. They decided to install a big capacitor box like the small ones to cut down the bills, we had 3 phase with a demand meter. It did make a huge difference. Sorry I couldn't describe it better.
@zvotaisvfi8678
@zvotaisvfi8678 Жыл бұрын
Right my immediate thought is that these new smart meters read a current transformation or something like this with a high impedance electronics component or something that samples everything and is probably overly-sensitive to transients , which would artificially increase the RMS level were it calculated from this high-impedance source. So reducing noise could lower the overshoot error of the meter, simply by filtering transients better. Wheras an older meter would be less effected by transients, though computers probably produce tons of little switching transients which could lead to overshoot on the meter read. Idk. My bill definitely went up 20-25% once we got a smart meter, which actually makes me pretty mad now that I'm thinking about it.
@muh1h1
@muh1h1 8 жыл бұрын
VERY impressive! I think we all knew the outcome beforehand, but your analytical methods are really impressive and fun to watch! :)
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate ;-)
@chancemcclendon3906
@chancemcclendon3906 8 жыл бұрын
due to my high school level understanding if circuits i had about 1% understanding of what he was saying but it sounded cool so i kept watching
@marek196c
@marek196c 8 жыл бұрын
basically moving the curve using capacitors or inductance you can trick your electricity meter that will read consumption of current badly. Mean that if you use e.g. 900W it will read only e.g. 750W cause of moved curve.
@roushhawley8438
@roushhawley8438 8 жыл бұрын
ya basically in high school they teach you how to light up a light bulb. i knew how to make inverters since i was like 12
@endawmyke
@endawmyke 8 жыл бұрын
+Marek S so this is for tricking the power company to fool the meter?
@mikelemon5109
@mikelemon5109 8 жыл бұрын
Marketing these days ... you can sell ice to Eskimos .
@mikelemon5109
@mikelemon5109 8 жыл бұрын
Bartosz Olszewski How putting capacitors for sale as "Power Saver" is not marketing
@Modelero
@Modelero 8 жыл бұрын
*Ignorant people these days...
@polarknight5376
@polarknight5376 8 жыл бұрын
Australia is selling sand to Saudi Arabia.
@krap101
@krap101 8 жыл бұрын
The ice is disappearing... buy now because prices are going to go through the roof.
@thereaper2615
@thereaper2615 8 жыл бұрын
+polarknight 537 make sense for land reclamation in beach. its basically like selling a tiny bit of Australia. but then again the wind and water scrape lots more through erotion. sry for any bad grammar, not a native speaker.
@squaller9254
@squaller9254 6 жыл бұрын
You should make a series called Bullshit or Not and look at things like this
@pranalisarpotdar8203
@pranalisarpotdar8203 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@SreenikethanI
@SreenikethanI 5 жыл бұрын
Hehehe
@johnrubensaragi4125
@johnrubensaragi4125 4 жыл бұрын
THE RECTIFIER
@michaelboot
@michaelboot 4 жыл бұрын
Ksssksssskssss (kitty cat vid)
@davidecker3606
@davidecker3606 4 жыл бұрын
JUST LIKE MOST THINGS ON THE INTERNET AND LIFE IN GENERAL ALL ROYAL BS
@myemperor
@myemperor 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I'm a civil engineer, and based only on the limited electrical engineering courses I had in my first 2 years, I could easily follow your video.
@f1ggyc
@f1ggyc 8 жыл бұрын
The way you ripped the booklet apart at the end was sooo satisfying ;)
@johnyancey8012
@johnyancey8012 4 жыл бұрын
Great example! Thanks for going into the device and giving a detailed description and exposing the truth about the electrical junk people try to sell on the internet! I appreciate what you did.
@VIDEOEPPO
@VIDEOEPPO 8 жыл бұрын
I really had my doubts on this gadgets. Thank you for the logical explanations
@bilbao2468
@bilbao2468 3 жыл бұрын
Don't understand any of it but thank you for taking the time to explain it so thoroughly and clearly
@davidrivera6839
@davidrivera6839 8 жыл бұрын
that last part made me laugh so hard. " Let's change Germany to China " HAHAHAHA too good
@Elspin
@Elspin 6 жыл бұрын
For anyone curious, there is an actual industrial application to these things. As Scott said in the video, motors and capacitors create opposing shifts, the shift itself being called a "power factor" (a ratio of how much of your power is real). It's usually considered impractical and not bothered with to have residential customers billed for their power factor, but industrial customers often have a heavily skewed power factor without effort to fix this as their power consumption is heavily biased towards the inductive side due to (somewhat obviously) motors. As a result, factories bring people in to improve their power factor which does amount to adding some amount of capacitance. There's a bit about this in the wikipedia article on power factor. The idea that this would help a residential customer is pretty ridiculous, and there's a definite amount of cringe related to seeing a cheaply made metal box with no grounding they expect you to plug into your mains voltage.
@NeoIsrafil
@NeoIsrafil 5 жыл бұрын
Huh...but if im running a big CNC with a high power spindle, spindle controller, and stepper motors and such it might actually benefit yah?
@andrewmackenzie2638
@andrewmackenzie2638 5 жыл бұрын
@@NeoIsrafil No, residents aren't charged on reactive power. The cap will essentially turn active power into reactive power, costing you more. In *industry*, they charge for both active and reactive and they charge you more for poor power factor. It works out cheaper to use the capacitors (with a controller to switch extras in and out) because you aren't penalised for poor power factor and you reduce your reactive power.
@jeffscott6514
@jeffscott6514 Жыл бұрын
Buyer beware ...SCAM.
@amitanivfx
@amitanivfx 4 жыл бұрын
Superbly explained! I like the way you have clearly explain the definition of these devices and also that it is imperative to forget about these Chinese appliances
@TheSleepyCraftsman
@TheSleepyCraftsman 3 жыл бұрын
What I really like about your videos is that even a 4 year old video still feels fresh and relevant today. A lot of videos on other KZfaqr don't age well and are almost cringe worthy.
@IncroyablesExperiences
@IncroyablesExperiences 7 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I wonder why do they add something inside the box... This system can only decrease the reactive current if the user is running a very specific motor... In any other situation, this system increases the reactive power (especially when noting is plugged...) so, clearly, it is both bad for user and power grid ! If I was one the "engineers" who created this device, I would have just put a piece of iron in it to make weight ;-)
@bskull3232
@bskull3232 6 жыл бұрын
Some old Chinese energy meters are not properly designed back in the 80s/90s, and they will spin backward under pure capacitive load. Those energy savers don't actually save energy, they steal energy by hacking old meters.
@kelsonmcnamee715
@kelsonmcnamee715 5 жыл бұрын
Ch Faizan that is 100% bullshit
@automaticnostatic2148
@automaticnostatic2148 3 жыл бұрын
Okowatt? It's useless!
@carolkloninger8377
@carolkloninger8377 3 жыл бұрын
@@kelsonmcnamee715 in
@Bylga
@Bylga 8 жыл бұрын
D*mn! That fuse box looks so clean! (._.)
@BuggyGamer-db6mw
@BuggyGamer-db6mw 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... *Calls a Friend a and Cleans his Fuse box* Missspellings at Cmon@f*ck.this
@joesquatch
@joesquatch 5 жыл бұрын
Bylga they all look like that after you put your foot into it and get all the twisted spider web Birdsnest cluster fuck of wires push back inlmao
@synqelectric6163
@synqelectric6163 5 жыл бұрын
It could have been wiped with z-energia!!!!! @greatscott. You need to watch the video about this on EEVblog😁😁😁😁😁😁
@JanicekTrnecka
@JanicekTrnecka 4 жыл бұрын
I watched that video from Dave and was like: I dont want to live on this planet any more with such crap being marketed.
@moki2093
@moki2093 4 жыл бұрын
Did you just censor "damn"?
@iwalkreporter
@iwalkreporter Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott; i just watched your video about power savers and loved it - its not my field but you made it easy to understand that we can understand...:) My passion is alternative energy - solar, wind and hydraulic, and I would love to learn from you few simple projects to share with my kids. Best tutorial ever, because we can see you know!
@deere3321
@deere3321 5 жыл бұрын
I worked in the electric utility business for 36 years. My recommendation to people that wanted to lower their bill was to turn shit off. When you really think about it, electricity is cheap considering what all we can do with it. I enjoyed the video. Thanks.
@bskull3232
@bskull3232 6 жыл бұрын
They traditionally worked, though not now. I'm from China and I can recall when I was a kid, those capacitor things worked with older electricity meters. Older meters are not designed to take capacitive loads, and in some occasions, they will spin backwards under pure capacitive loads (no other appliances on, only that capacitor). In other words, those capacitors don't save power, they steal power by hacking old energy meters.
@yannisgk
@yannisgk 6 жыл бұрын
...but you still sell them to get money for your army.
@NeoIsrafil
@NeoIsrafil 5 жыл бұрын
This is kinda what i figures was happening. So it won't trick the newer power meters?
@djmussy18
@djmussy18 5 жыл бұрын
New power meters are digital.. this stuff is useless
@crazymedia2102
@crazymedia2102 5 жыл бұрын
i am using this kind saver i does save money like under 20%
@crackedemerald4930
@crackedemerald4930 5 жыл бұрын
@@crazymedia2102 you must use a lot of power tools then...
@dennisdesourdyjr9232
@dennisdesourdyjr9232 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you man.. I just seen an ad about those “power saving” devices and knew it was too good to be true so I KZfaqd it and watched your video for confirmation. You went above and beyond and gave great explanation with detail. I’m an electrical apprentice and it just shows me I have a lot more to go to be where you’re at. So thanks for clearing that up and good luck with your channel, I wish you much success!
@jimpe8591
@jimpe8591 3 жыл бұрын
This video actually attracts power saver ads. In fact the exact ad I saw somewhere else and for a laugh searched debunk vids on YT for! :D
@kittyquinn2316
@kittyquinn2316 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the ending 🤣 Thank you so so much for saving me money and explaining how this works.
@techgautam422
@techgautam422 3 жыл бұрын
Really great.....as an electrical engineer and electronics hobbyist I like your videos a lot.
@samlau7948
@samlau7948 8 жыл бұрын
I do alot of dealing with manufacturers in china and can say with confidence that they will do anything to make a sale, whether or not its out right lying or bait and switching. Ive caught out on many occasions shipping being ramped up so they take the profits (found this out when they were forced to admit when i offered my own courier to pick it up), do not trust anything you see from chinese exporters unless you are 100% certain.
@samlau7948
@samlau7948 8 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention, they also hire employees to give false reviews, you'll be surprised the kind of shit these bastards get upto when you ask the right questions :P
@y__h
@y__h 8 жыл бұрын
oh god i remembered one case where they sell fake external harddrive, seems legit judged from the case, but when you pry open these things, found only a flash drive connected to the usb port, and some really big bolts for additional weight.
@samlau7948
@samlau7948 8 жыл бұрын
Lol! Extended warrenty: x4 more bolts
@chunye215
@chunye215 8 жыл бұрын
True. If you do business with China you absolutely need someone at your side who knows the culture, knows how to approach people, know all the typical scams, ideally a Chinese born person living in your country, knowing both worlds. Cause there are very good Chinese products, they're just not the cheapest ones, and sometimes harder to find.
@lmeza1983
@lmeza1983 8 жыл бұрын
+Chun ye cheapest sell better
@shafialraya8839
@shafialraya8839 7 жыл бұрын
It's good that someone understand and explain these things to simple person like me . Thanks a lot bro . Peace
@thewheeloflife2399
@thewheeloflife2399 3 жыл бұрын
omg, I was gona buy this, put something told me not too. Then this morning I watched your video. I am very impressed and subscribed (i usually don't get impressed or subscribed)!!! Love your wisdom and thank you so much for helping us understand. You make it so enjoyable ....can't wait to hear your other videos. Yay!!!
@CirkaTusen
@CirkaTusen 7 жыл бұрын
Well, this device CAN actually save power under the right circumstances. Let us for once imagine the power meter in the consumer unit. Say you have a 40m Cu 2,5mm^2 supply cable. The load is 4500VA with an inductive cosphi of 0.7, and the voltage by the load is 240V. Now; S=3500VA, P=2450W, Q=2500VAr The current is 2450W/240V*0.7 = 14.6A. We’ll use 0.00750ohms/m for the cable. 14.6A*0.00750*40m*2 = 8.8W (real power) dissipated in heat in the inductors. In this case the power meter reads 2458.8W. We insert the “power saver” near the load, and assign it the value of 20uF. In Norway we have 50Hz, therefore Xc = 159ohm. The capacitive reactive power of the “power saver” is 240^2/159=361.8VAr. We now get a Q = 2500 - 361.8 = 2138.2VAr, and thereby a S = 3252VA, cosphi = 0.75 The current is now 2450/240*0.75 = 13.6A, (real) power dissipated in heat = 8.16W. The power meter now reads 2458.2W. Well, point proven; 2458.8W > 2458.2W, so in this case it saves a tiny bit of energy over time. This was written to you who say the product cannot save power at all, because it CAN, but it is still a shitty product made to screw people, i can agree on that.
@cekpi7
@cekpi7 7 жыл бұрын
CirkaTusen But you will have less heat and current, which means things like motors will heat less and have longer lifespan, but since you probably dont have 3kw industrial motor in your living room, this wont do much
@kennethkeen4988
@kennethkeen4988 6 жыл бұрын
whao, i love your deluxe image..... ' cool!
@xapplimatic
@xapplimatic 5 жыл бұрын
No it won't save anything on the bill even though it might save on power waste. Consumer electric accounts don't charge based upon reactive watts, they charge by actual consumed watts. This means only industrial customers would save money doing something like this because it takes large motors to make large reactive watt. The Power Factor does not affect regular consumer power bills. Only industrial / commercial for the most part.
@CYXenofontas
@CYXenofontas 8 жыл бұрын
Very good video about this devices !! Keep up the good work ! Actually this method using capacitors parallel (power factor correction) to inductive loads is being used in big factories who they have large amounts of inductive loads like motors, since the power companies monitor also the current being drawn from the power lines.
@raptorswire3128
@raptorswire3128 6 жыл бұрын
so lets change Germany to China.... 😂
@tofu.lover.69
@tofu.lover.69 5 жыл бұрын
Raptor Swire I
@synqelectric6163
@synqelectric6163 5 жыл бұрын
That's my favourite part in this video 😁😁😁😁😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@gotham4u
@gotham4u 5 жыл бұрын
You are humorous, thanks for the very useful video!
@Mr.13
@Mr.13 4 жыл бұрын
I rather buy china
@gilberttheregular8553
@gilberttheregular8553 4 жыл бұрын
remove this nonsense
@dazymay6583
@dazymay6583 4 жыл бұрын
I now check anything and all items I find online. This was great. Didn't understand a thing you said. But when you changed the country to China and tore up the pamphlet, your review was clear as day, saved me money right there. Thank you
@ezra7124
@ezra7124 3 жыл бұрын
I got to your channel for school but now im here
@lightguy250
@lightguy250 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Dave from EEVBlog did a video on this same product, but I think you explained how it works better ;)
@evelyndai8200
@evelyndai8200 8 жыл бұрын
"Lets change germany to china" lolol i was laughing so hard
@nimlhug138
@nimlhug138 8 жыл бұрын
First of all. I had one of your videos suggested to me back in early 2014. Some weeks ago other of your videos start showing up on my KZfaq feed, then I gave it a chance and then I found that I had already in this channel. Well... I have only one thing to say to you: You have talent! Your videos are entertaining, teachful and succinct. I don't have english as my first language and it's very easy to understand you. Unfortunately I don't have how to support you right now, but I hope you keep growing. Creers bud :)
@audreysuite
@audreysuite Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I just saw this item advertised on Facebook, and I thought it was odd all the comments were turned off, so I decided to research it on KZfaq. Thanks, because I almost purchased one.
@Xenro66
@Xenro66 8 жыл бұрын
How to save power and reduce your energy bill? Buy more efficient appliances.
@yannisgk
@yannisgk 6 жыл бұрын
best of message !!!
@JanicekTrnecka
@JanicekTrnecka 4 жыл бұрын
And also consider the cost of buying them before throwing the old one. Since in most cases, the wattage saved is not enough to justify the cost of a new appliance. Yes, in case the old one just craps out, its a good time to look for better and efficient one.
@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd
@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd 4 жыл бұрын
How to save on power - consume less!!
@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd
@KurtSlotkowski-hj8jd 4 жыл бұрын
Duct tape the cracks along your windows and door frames that have too large a gap between them to minimize a cold draft from flowing through. It cut my gas bill nearly in half for this month compared to last month. Of course much of that was reduced due to slightly warmer weather over the course of time since last month. But, it still helped, imo.
@sategllib2191
@sategllib2191 3 жыл бұрын
Or upgrade all the wiring with super thick shielding
@dave_dennis
@dave_dennis 8 жыл бұрын
Very well produced and this made the explanation very clear. I've always thought there was no way these things could work unless they were somehow tunable to match the reactance of the load on them. Thanks for studying these so that I don't have to. Regards
@luissuave2826
@luissuave2826 3 жыл бұрын
I came here because the ad for one of those devices was so catchy I had to come see you for myself.
@tiger.6509
@tiger.6509 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody had $1 million idea and he banked on it because some people bought it but I wanted to see if it was going to save me money. I received an email save 90% on your electricity bill That’s why am watching this video. Thanks for the video you save me money.
@wfpulver
@wfpulver 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, clearly presented and excellent! Thank you for explaining why this is a scam in such a well-documented manner! May the force be with you! :)
@RizLazey
@RizLazey 7 жыл бұрын
"saving electricity means saving money, saving money means earning money" -chinese strategy to bait customer XD
@ChikitoPOWA
@ChikitoPOWA 8 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I would love to see more like these! Taking some random trending cheap object, and see how it works, if it really do what it's supposed to do, and learn a bit more about electrctronics!
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 8 жыл бұрын
I will try to do so
@clive0494
@clive0494 9 ай бұрын
Saw on tiktok plan to buy, i like videp like this when a real expert reveal the truth. Thank you so much sir!
@RabbitsInBlack
@RabbitsInBlack 7 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for some answers to why people think this saves money but I have to find a seller that can explain why they think it does. I don't want to know the fact, because I know them, I want to know the snake oil story.
@AdammP
@AdammP 8 жыл бұрын
at least you obtained a nice aluminium case for a future project :)
@alltimemovieclassics2849
@alltimemovieclassics2849 6 жыл бұрын
The most clear and dead clear video I saw about this subject, thanks buddy for sharing!
@itsdkt
@itsdkt 5 ай бұрын
Excellent Presentation, this small logic many customers do not under stand
@sameensolkar6193
@sameensolkar6193 8 жыл бұрын
I was always curious about that so called "power saver" that do they really save power😵 And yes they are Bullshit thanks greatscott 😀
@RichardT2112
@RichardT2112 8 жыл бұрын
At least you now have a metal project box ...
@jasertio
@jasertio 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1 million subscribers!
@terencetang7340
@terencetang7340 5 жыл бұрын
1st month bill came 10% lower.. 2nd month bill came 10% lower than previous... Now waiting for the 3rd month bill.. Added another one more device.. Lets see.. Thanks to Scott's review
@Rick_Bagnall
@Rick_Bagnall 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up! I've been seeing these things on the web and thought they were too good to be true. Thanks for the proof!
@dingo4229
@dingo4229 7 жыл бұрын
@4:36 is that breaker box normal in germany? for fucks sake, my box looks like a nuclear reactor control board from 1940
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is normal.
@markgrassl4449
@markgrassl4449 7 жыл бұрын
In austia too
@ismaelzz
@ismaelzz 7 жыл бұрын
Most of Europe dare I say. Malta too
@angelfernandez2597
@angelfernandez2597 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mostly in all western Europe countries as far as I know. I'm from Spain and they look like that... my house is 30 years old and my parents 50. Lived in UK for a while too, in a "modern" house and in a "Victorian" one, and they look the same. So... yes, I'll bet it is "normal".
@activediamond7894
@activediamond7894 6 жыл бұрын
That comparison xD
@joshuakim1514
@joshuakim1514 3 жыл бұрын
I sort of understand what you said but I have had a power bill normally at 140 a month but now I’m paying 76 a month but the difference is I have one working on the left side of the panel of the electric and then the other one on the right side so I am saving money
@r00t_sh3ll
@r00t_sh3ll 7 жыл бұрын
amazing video as always your analytical depth is just great
@rtarade1
@rtarade1 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott... a video about 555 please you can add it in Basics series
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 8 жыл бұрын
It is already on my to do list.
@rtarade1
@rtarade1 8 жыл бұрын
I think you have mentioned the IC 555 in your PWM video but such an important IC deserves it's own video.
@deltaray3
@deltaray3 8 жыл бұрын
+Rajat Tarade or its own channel
@brunokertesz2908
@brunokertesz2908 8 жыл бұрын
I think you should do the common schematic pin 8-pin4 pin2-pin6 pin1 ground pin8 Vcc a capacitor between pin 1 and pin 2 a resistor (680ohm works fine) between pin8 and pin7 a resistor (680ohm again) between pin7 and pin6 and pin 3 is output.
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 8 жыл бұрын
But its got a cool little led so it must work
@andrewludwig9251
@andrewludwig9251 Жыл бұрын
There are power conditioners that actually work for inductive loads but only with 3 phase power which is only in commercial/industrial applications. Residential power is single phase.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen another video on these(EEVblog) and it explained what these would be good for big motors. The video also noted that, unless you're in an industrial setting or in a weird country where people get charged by power factor, these devices are worthless.
@absolutekarl
@absolutekarl 5 жыл бұрын
New smart meters in France measure KVA rather than KW - but then France could well be considered a weird country I s'pose !!
@MineOfTheLegends
@MineOfTheLegends 7 жыл бұрын
Thank your your evaluation and explanation base on electronic theory. Your are genius
@DanielsGameVault
@DanielsGameVault 6 жыл бұрын
Is there anything that scope CAN'T do ? :)))
@youhomopenguin
@youhomopenguin 6 жыл бұрын
Possibly the most beautiful video I have seen in years, even down to the wagos, awesome dude, totally awesome.
@michaelhompus2475
@michaelhompus2475 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that you accidentally swapped the scope images. The one at 2:59 shows the lagging motor current (with irregularities caused by the commutation). The nicer sinusoidal current at 2:48 shows the current draw of the capacitor. It is leading, contrary to what you say. Anyway, you explained it well, quite in line with your other postings.
@EasyHomeMadeProjects
@EasyHomeMadeProjects 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome Man!
@jamesgrimwood1285
@jamesgrimwood1285 8 жыл бұрын
That was the best explanation of what Power Factor is, and also why it doesn't mean anything for domestic power meters. I learnt something :-)
@emperornate
@emperornate 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, cured my curiosity from the ad I saw during a mobile game.
@bills5297
@bills5297 3 жыл бұрын
Energy is needed to do work. Save with efficiencies like closing a window on a cold day to reduce your heating bill. What a world we live in! LED hats to grow hair and little black boxes to cut electric bill in half. How about an antenna that you insert in yourself to pickup the natural frequency of earth, synchronize your body, and double your lifespan? Thanks Great Scott! Good video!
@jamesrobertson6255
@jamesrobertson6255 4 жыл бұрын
You notice online, when anyone asks, “do these really work”? The question is totally avoided?! SCAM!
@rondacook6841
@rondacook6841 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I bought 2 last night. It says 100% money back guaranteed. I'm sending back without even opening it
@DrHarryT
@DrHarryT 4 жыл бұрын
"Chinese Power Saver - Does it actually save power? " Sure it does, but only while traveling through another dimension.
@glomontero6011
@glomontero6011 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for confirming my thoughts. I don’t understand how they can get away with advertising such lies. Unfortunately so many r so strapped financially that they will buy it in hope that it works.
@tooyoungtobeold8756
@tooyoungtobeold8756 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I didn't undertsand much of it until you said, basically, that it didn't work.
@derknistermann5613
@derknistermann5613 7 жыл бұрын
Next you should check cheap stuff from the dollar store. Most are crappier than this. The only reason I buy some electronics from it is because I simply take it apart and use its parts. You cant seriously use this stuff
@soulstarssama7996
@soulstarssama7996 6 жыл бұрын
Der Knistermann says Jenisis girl
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 8 жыл бұрын
scott could you also do a review about thise anti radiation stickers that claim they reduce cellular radiation and energy consumption
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 8 жыл бұрын
I will see what I can do
@FaisalAlmalki223
@FaisalAlmalki223 8 жыл бұрын
Technically, if those stickers contain a thin slice of lead it would "work". But instead of protecting your head thus "you", it will only protect your palm......
@curnowornever
@curnowornever 2 жыл бұрын
How do 801 people give this video a thumbs down?? This is a Super informative and helpful video. Everybody’s allowed to have their own opinion, but in this case, if you gave the video a thumbs down you’re wrong and an idiot.
@hztn
@hztn 8 жыл бұрын
- Try capacitors with electric non-synchronous motors (typically refrigerator's motors) as reactive power - it helps a little. And when before counter somewhere connected reactive electric motor - plugged capacitor even can turn counter's wheel backwards! (sry, bad enGrish)
@Porrsotemimtao
@Porrsotemimtao 8 жыл бұрын
so wy there are so many substations using Capacitors banks?
@flosteader7018
@flosteader7018 4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this device, my mother bought one for the holidays to give to me...... I knew it was BS just by reading the little booklet.
@marciewarner9225
@marciewarner9225 5 жыл бұрын
GreatScott! Thanks so much for your review. I was about to consider buying one of these useless gadgets and you saved me from wasting my money! Thank you!
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 7 жыл бұрын
About the inductive load: You hear so often that motors act like inductive loads - well - not really. if the motor is free running then yes. But if it is under load the powerfactor normally gets pretty close to 1, so a resistive load with a tiny tiny inductive load in parallel.
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 8 жыл бұрын
You should debunk more chinese $hit$ellerS
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 8 жыл бұрын
I will think about it
@JarrettWilliams99
@JarrettWilliams99 8 жыл бұрын
I think the trick is, it will burn your house down. Collect the insurance money and have $0 electric bill. PROFIT
@gaguto
@gaguto 7 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil, when you have alot of inductive load in your house/company the supplier force you to have an Capacitor bank, to ajust the curve of consumption, if I'm not mistaken the consumption should be at least 92% resistive.
@gopronomad4381
@gopronomad4381 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for someone to take a look at this
@rastwet
@rastwet 8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to make a real one?if yes can you make one?
@JOELwindows7
@JOELwindows7 8 жыл бұрын
Now here comes GreatScott, that now BUSTED this fenomenally unsenseful (no making sense) instrument. Thx for being inspired by EEVSBlog! Keep more busting no sense electronic contraption! Help EEVSBlog open consumer's eye in front of producers and distributor!
@JOELwindows7
@JOELwindows7 8 жыл бұрын
being inspired by
@k1ngjulien_
@k1ngjulien_ 8 жыл бұрын
Did you know you can edit your comment?
@KernelPanic
@KernelPanic 8 жыл бұрын
The word "unsenseful" doesn't make any sense at all. You're trying to be sarcastic and funny at the same time but it's not working.
@JOELwindows7
@JOELwindows7 8 жыл бұрын
K1ngjulien_ making sure that I don't forget to have to.
@polarknight5376
@polarknight5376 8 жыл бұрын
I think you mean nonsensical not unsenseful
@kevinpete8995
@kevinpete8995 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you from this video. It saved me 45 dollars that I didn't really
@ahmedelsherbiny8801
@ahmedelsherbiny8801 8 жыл бұрын
My Brain Melted From The Numbers And Things You Kept Saying Good Job 👏
@fandigladion7051
@fandigladion7051 8 жыл бұрын
Scott... i have tried something like it but with huge capacity of capacitor... if China thing only using 2 till 5 micro farads... i use 2 capacitors, one is 40 micro farads 400 volt and the second is 50 micro farads 400 volt... but i use them alternately, one at noon and one in the evening... from my first installation till now, i got huge reduction my electricity bill... before i am using them, i should pay about almost average 20 dollars of my electricity bill every month(in my house there are many wall and standing fans and one of them is big and active almost 18 hours per day, 1 tv, 1 set huge amplifier active 3 hours everyday, 1 refrigerators active 24 hours, 1 dispenser active 24 hours, 1 water pump active 4 hours everyday, 1 rice warmer cooker active 24 hours, and many house lights type LED but i know those lamps not too much using electricity power and of course in my room have some devices using huge electricity power everyday)... but for last 10 months, my parents happy cause i got only about 15 dollars of my electricity bill... i live in INDONESIA and my neighbors also my relative still confused when look my electricity bill, they said(in INDONESIA language) "with those stuffs, you just got about 15 dollars? i got about 30 dollars every month!"... also some electricity worker have been visited my house for checking it and they got surprised! "these things for plant but you use it at home, great!!!"
@theLuigiFan0007Productions
@theLuigiFan0007Productions 8 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear. And, it not only saves you money, it also saves the power company money. The cheap knock off products from China do nothing, but using big AC filter caps like you did can have a noticeable effect. Especially with big inductive loads or lots of modern switchmode power supplies. If everyone did it, it might even reduce the cost of power, as there would be less strain on the power grid.
@fandigladion7051
@fandigladion7051 8 жыл бұрын
theLuigiFan0007 yes... absolutely... for circuit, they are same like two China capacitor that Scott opened... then you need change the capacitor with big one i have... but you need count your power house first... like me, 2200 watts 220 volts 6 amps on electric meter... after some hard calculation i need about 38.9 micro farads... so i use 40 micro farads... the problems is when night comes, everyone will use electricity in same time so there will be little volt reduction in grid line... then i decided to make another one use 50 micro farads for reducing lost peak voltage... if i don't use 50 micro farads there will be little flash in my house lamps...
@fandigladion7051
@fandigladion7051 7 жыл бұрын
***** did not you read the part > my room have some devices using huge electricity power everyday... I mean i have a little laboratorium in my home... If you said i don't watch this video, you are wrong... I am not lying about my capacitors, because them have been installed since about 1 years ago till now... I have been SHUT THEM DOWN for one month and it makes my parents angry for paying higher electricity bill(about 24 dollars)... Capacitors on = 13-15 dollars/month, capacitors off = 24-30dollars/month
@fandigladion7051
@fandigladion7051 7 жыл бұрын
***** what ever you said, i am still using my capacitors and they are really really help me much... And i don't use them 24 hours... If i use them 24 hours it will be disaster...
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 7 жыл бұрын
the electricity company bills home customer with different way with kWh, whereas industrial users billed with kVAr. To prevent penalty for industrial users, they uses capacitor bank. Those industries uses *alot* of wattage, so it's unfeasible to bill industries with kWh
@markjhomelolimon243
@markjhomelolimon243 6 жыл бұрын
156 chinese disliked this video.
@IhonLiu
@IhonLiu 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha, I'm a chinese but I still like it :)
@human_bing
@human_bing 6 жыл бұрын
I'm Chinese but I didn't dislike
@Tashyncho-Sapa
@Tashyncho-Sapa 5 жыл бұрын
@@human_bing I'm Chinese and I disliked it
@zUltra3D
@zUltra3D 5 жыл бұрын
400
@thekrustykrabrestaurant
@thekrustykrabrestaurant 5 жыл бұрын
@@IhonLiu - China's asshole! Cannibalism!
@snowdust2752
@snowdust2752 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are very intelligent in the electrical engineering area. I hope a company has you as an employee working for them
@Brandovibe
@Brandovibe 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you just said, but it sounded brilliant.
@lQuadXl
@lQuadXl 5 жыл бұрын
*Made in Germachina*
@keymaker2k
@keymaker2k 5 жыл бұрын
Chimany
@sumansaha9200
@sumansaha9200 8 жыл бұрын
lol change germany to china...😁
@paramhansjiddanand1032
@paramhansjiddanand1032 2 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! What a wonderful explanation!!! Thanks
@edhorlickbullecer8564
@edhorlickbullecer8564 7 жыл бұрын
I find this video is very informative. Thank you very much for debunking these devices, sir.
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