Chinese Router Lift - Any Good? Let's find out!

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This is review/ unboxing / installation / first use / pros and cons of a cheap Chinese router lift from Amazon.
Amazon describes it as
"Electric Milling Lifting Base Woodworking Accessory Router Lift Base Stainless Steel 4 Jaw Clamping Router Table Lifting System Base Router Table"
Lets see what it is like and if it is an upgrade for my existing set-up.
I will also make a small modification to make it work better.
#Woodwork #Maker #routertable
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@chrisaltec2992 5 ай бұрын

This was EXACTLY what I wanted to see. No fluffing around, all the right info. Very well made 👏🏻

@DIYTinkerer 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@richardw5507 7 ай бұрын

Simon, where've you been all my KZfaq life? You've done everything I want to do in one channel

@DIYTinkerer 7 ай бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you found me!

@Corialtavi 5 ай бұрын

I got one of these last week, I've not messed with it yet but funnily enough my levelling screw was bent as well. Subscribed and now gonna look for your update video. Happy new year.

@DIYTinkerer 4 ай бұрын

Thanks, I have a few on this lift, including a Digital Readout Mod and a springs mod, I've another mod in mind for later this year (hopefully!)

@christiangrimm5921 8 ай бұрын

Hi Simon, I also use the Katsu Router and have the same lift installed in my table. I do not use springs. You can align the head of the leveling screw with the bottom of your insert plate. I drilled the access hole a bit smaller than the head. So the router will be pushed downwards if I lower the lift. The only disadvantage of this lift is the 90 degree angle. If Iuse a bit bigger or longer router bit and push the wood towards the bit (obvious) while milling, I do not reach a perfect 90 degree angle. This is due to the fragile construction and small srew/poles.

@DIYTinkerer 8 ай бұрын

Yes, I've noticed that as well, thanks for sharing 👍🏻

@brianfreeman8290 8 ай бұрын

You could even add a washer or shim between the plate and the head of the screw, but it would need a trace of adhesive.

@keithdavison5578 6 ай бұрын

Hi tinker that looks better than what I have set up. I think that I will invest in one thanks looks easy to install thinks again 👍👍👍👏

@DIYTinkerer 6 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for the comments. Remember, it's a budget lifer, better than nothing, but not nearly as nice as the more expensive ones

@brianfreeman8290 8 ай бұрын

Mine has just arrived from Temu. Let battle commence !

@DIYTinkerer 8 ай бұрын

LOL, good luck

@rcdogmanduh4440 7 ай бұрын

Longer adjustment screw, drill clearance hole in bottom plate, put stop collar above and below that plate locked to adjustment bolt. Also add two plastic washers sandwiching red plate!

@DIYTinkerer 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip, I've been thinking of doing something like this 😀

@diegohperez6434 Ай бұрын

Oh yes works you need the router I have one definitely works is good is aluminium body sorry to interrupt is very easy fix thanks

@DIYTinkerer Ай бұрын

Thanks for the info

@Fusion_Woodworking 6 ай бұрын

Using the head of caliper to measure depth usually gives you more consistent results. The tail end is better for measuring holes.

@DIYTinkerer 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip! :-) 😀

@johnbauer3801 9 ай бұрын

Thanks

@DIYTinkerer 9 ай бұрын

No problem

@bhartissimo 4 ай бұрын

I just ordered one of these lifts - it was cheap enough to risk buying without know if it will really work. If it's identical to the one you have, I guess all I'll need to do is add springs and drill a hole in the plate for the adjustment handle. Thanks for the video.

@DIYTinkerer 3 ай бұрын

Good luck. I hope it works out for you.

@bhartissimo 3 ай бұрын

@@DIYTinkerer Thanks. I'll find out when it eventually gets here.

@rogerprice4504 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Simon. I suspect this would be a suitable aid for me with limited need for heavy duty kit. But what "insert plate" did you use? I guess they are all different for each brand of router.

@DIYTinkerer 9 ай бұрын

It was a KKmoon multifunctional router table insert plate, the router is a KATSU electric hand wood trim router. But I think the trim routers are pretty standard dimensions. Both available on Amazon.

@hwfranjr 9 күн бұрын

Advise ya if ya got one get springs,lol

@DIYTinkerer 8 күн бұрын

Yep

@johnbauer3801 9 ай бұрын

what kind of springs did you use? are they compression?

@DIYTinkerer 9 ай бұрын

Yes, they were stock compression springs, but they were not strong enough, check out next weeks video for how I solved this by making my own custom springs

@Ozone280 6 ай бұрын

@@DIYTinkerer You could put 2 springs with a washer between them on each column

@DIYTinkerer 6 ай бұрын

@Ozone280 yep good suggestion 👌

@MiguelCamba 8 ай бұрын

I actually ordered the same router lift this morning for around 31 euro. I was also unsure about it not having springs and relaying only on pure gravity. Can you tell me what the ideal length/diameter for the springs would be? If I order the springs today they may arrive at around the same time. I'll try to get one with some thickness so they have decent strength.

@DIYTinkerer 7 ай бұрын

HI they need to be at least 65mm long with an Internal Diameter of about 10mm, they don't need to be too strong.

@MiguelCamba 7 ай бұрын

@@DIYTinkererThanks! Great review BTW

@flatlander523 5 ай бұрын

I would worry about the router trying to climb up as you route. If nothing holds the router fixed in one place it is liable to move up and down against the springs. I hope it works out for you.

@DIYTinkerer 5 ай бұрын

Yes, it's a fair point, I added springs to 'improve it' I think it is better and easier to use than what I had, I'll eventually upgrade to a quality router and lift. Thanks for watching,

@ichbinsooodoof 8 ай бұрын

is there any router lift, i can indtall an ordinary router likemy Bosch 1400 Watt router ?

@DIYTinkerer 8 ай бұрын

If the router is one that can be detached from the plunge or fixed base then you should be able to find a lift, if it's like my old Bosch however then it won't be designed for conversion.

@hwfranjr 9 күн бұрын

Yep:Y bolts not STRAIGHT either,lol,Will bind

@DIYTinkerer 9 күн бұрын

I'm sort of glad it wasn't just me...

@cyberlizardcouk 2 ай бұрын

Could I ask what length and diameter the springs are? Thanks very much.

@DIYTinkerer 2 ай бұрын

Hi, the springs are compression springs, they need to be about 65mm long and an internal diameter of 8mm or bigger, mine are actually 16mm in diameter.

@cyberlizardcouk 2 ай бұрын

thank you. @@DIYTinkerer

@davidjennings9253 7 ай бұрын

More important - does the unit raise and lower accurately - is it concentric????

@DIYTinkerer 7 ай бұрын

David, I suspect it isn't that accurate, I've not tested it for concentricness but suspect it angles a bit on the side with the lift bolt. It's still better than adjusting by hand for getting the height right but if you are looking for more accuracy it is worth saving up for a branded product.

@HappyHitman 3 ай бұрын

I bought one but it appears that it's not compatible with my ryobi because of the screw position on the Ryobi

@DIYTinkerer 3 ай бұрын

Ah that's a shame 😞, thanks for posting so others know.

@j.m.castilla7150 8 ай бұрын

How to fix it so that it does not go down or up it does not have a height fixing brake. How to ? Gracias

@DIYTinkerer 8 ай бұрын

Yes it's on my to do list!

@johnhernlund539 9 ай бұрын

What router fits this lift? The ads I see online never mention this important bit of info.

@DIYTinkerer 9 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for the qurstion, sorry I didnt cover this. It fits a trim router, like the Makita knock-off I have the body of which is about ~64 -65mm diameter, the 'fingers' that grab the body in the lift will probably give you 2-3mm either side of that. Hope that helps.

@johnhernlund539 9 ай бұрын

@@DIYTinkerer thanks! Also, thanks for covering obscure gear like this...I may just have to try one out, they are so cheap it is hard to resist.

@hwfranjr 9 күн бұрын

Same,thin i RAN INTO,turned The handel NOTHING,

@DIYTinkerer 8 күн бұрын

Not immediately obvious is it!

@GrantOakes 9 ай бұрын

On Temu there's one listed for only $11.48 and it has springs.

@DIYTinkerer 9 ай бұрын

That is insane. And it has springs, I knew it was a good idea :-)

@richardh1764 3 ай бұрын

So you've had a few months now. What's the verdict?

@DIYTinkerer 3 ай бұрын

It's OK, my verdict is the same, good value for money but don't expect the quality of a lift costing ten times more. If you don't have a lift and want a cheap upgrade to improve height adjustment then this is that upgrade

@mic50del 9 ай бұрын

Bought one Used it once realized it was junk Main problem is there is NO locking mechanism I did overcome that but using the fix was a PITA (wasted money!)

@DIYTinkerer 9 ай бұрын

Well I bought it expecting a much, I'll have to see if my experience is the same as yours. The design is flawed as I point out in the video, but I'm just looking for a cheap upgrade on what I was using. Hopefully the mod I've done ( next weeks video) will solve the movement issue you've experienced. And I've another video waiting to be made that will quantify how much movement there is once modded and if I need some sort of locking mechanism as you've suggested. So stay tuned to find out! :-) 😀

@hwfranjr 9 күн бұрын

I BOUGHT a lift just like this and im TEYING to Find out justmhow this thing works,lol,i doesent Line up on the PLATE no HOLES for,this,thing had to drill a hole,😂😂😂,but,what holds it in place when ya lift The router??????

@DIYTinkerer 9 күн бұрын

It's just the threaded rod holding it in place

@hwfranjr 9 күн бұрын

Best o get a NON China MADE bolt lol,but im in Philippines no SUCH thing,lol

@DIYTinkerer 9 күн бұрын

LOL 😆

@luisllanos1435 5 ай бұрын

Pon una Emisora de radio asi puedes hablar todo el rato

@DIYTinkerer 5 ай бұрын

Great idea 💡 👍🏻

@hwfranjr 9 күн бұрын

Yep same,as,mine,no instructions,use to that CHINA NEVER SEND INST AND WHEN AND IF THEYMDOMITS IN MANDERN😂😂😂

@DIYTinkerer 9 күн бұрын

I guess you get what you pay for

@aquacaloris 3 ай бұрын

Just add weight to the machine.

@DIYTinkerer 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion, I think from other comments I've had that the unit might have been faulty or manufactured incorrectly, some viewers have said that on their units the height adjusting thread is captive with the bottom plate, this isn't the case on my unit, but this would fix the problem, so something to look out for if you get one.

@aquacaloris 3 ай бұрын

@@DIYTinkerer I bought one and will look a this, thanks for the advise.

@hwfranjr 9 күн бұрын

REMEMBER YOUMBUY CHINA YA GET CHINA MADE,LOL

@DIYTinkerer 9 күн бұрын

Yes, there's a reason they are cheap!

@francoisdaudin8914 4 ай бұрын

before criticizing the work of others, you should have to go school and learn mechanic. First the material is aluminium, secondly the belt do not go down by gravity but by the head of the screw which is blocked by the plate on which the mechanisme is fixed, you can adjust it with a little screw at the bottom. Remove your ridicullous springs.... I have bought one and I can tell you as a mechanical ingenior that is a very good conception and very well made.

@jeffcramer6722 4 ай бұрын

I am assuming English is not your first language?

@francoisdaudin8914 4 ай бұрын

Hi Jeff, Sorry for my english, I am french. I invite You to have a look at this video: Router Table Lift for Micro Adjustment - DIY Install by Joeff Joinery

@DIYTinkerer 3 ай бұрын

Hi, it sounds like the little bolt on your unit is captive with the bottom plate. On my unit the little screw serves no purpose other than to centralise the main screw thread of the mechanism. A captive bolt would certainly be a better design, but unfortunately on my unit the hole for the little bolt is slightly larger than the head of the bolt, so it can't serve as a captive bolt - a stepped hole would have been a better solution. I have been thinking for a few months about how I modify the lift so that the main thread becomes captive with the bottom plate but life has got in the way of actually doing anything about it. My main points in the review 1.There were no instructions 2.The main thread was bent 3. The design flaw (or perhaps manufacturing flaw?) preventing the lift from lowering correctly that my review was fair and I stand by what I said, which, if I paraphrase was 'It's better than no lift, but don't expect the rigidity of a lift costing 10 times as much.'

@josuecaleb5053 Ай бұрын

You can clearly tell in the video that his bolt is not captive, like you claim yours to be. You probably don't have the same model he does. You don't need to be a mechanical engineer to see that.