Chinese Spy Balloon: Legal To Shoot Down?
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@CheNoriega Жыл бұрын
The balloon stunt, is just an excuse to rally Americans to hate Chinese people, like we did with Muslims/ Arab, shocker they aren't mutually exclusive , or Japanese, or Vietnamese, or whoever we want to justify war with, we simply just make shit up to rally hate.
@davea6314 Жыл бұрын
Prison sentence lengths once Don the Con Trump is convicted of all that he will likely be put on trial for.
@ciaramitchell1182 Жыл бұрын
As a person who studied International Relations, because studying International Relations is exactly like studying preschoolers playing games on the play ground and some of them have Nukes. That is how I'm going to explain my degree to my family now
@samlevi4744 Жыл бұрын
The number of people who don’t grasp two-level games is irritating at times. . Chuckleheads: how are we going to let them threaten us like that! Literally the entire IR community: ugh, just stfu, dude. It’s just performative so they can pretend their despotic regimeis stronger than ever.
@LabGecko Жыл бұрын
@@samlevi4744 Those people are the same mentality that China is trying to keep under control in their own borders. Rabid reactionists who can't understand nuance.
@notorioustori Жыл бұрын
I wanted to go into International Relations until my 4th week in Poli Sci 101. I'd already taken AP US History in high school so I wasn't dumb....which is why I went with Ethnic Relations 🤣
@nolanlight5386 Жыл бұрын
@@notorioustori that’s a big pay drop.
@notorioustori Жыл бұрын
@@nolanlight5386 not if all the jobs you've ever had are only softly related to your major and you sleep well at night, lol.
@ShadowknightEX Жыл бұрын
Saying the Chinese Balloon was effectively a weather balloon is probably the worst thing they could tell the US. We’ve used that lie ourselves
@brodriguez11000 Жыл бұрын
Just wait till we start shooting down alien saucers. Those are "weather balloons" too.
@ShadowknightEX Жыл бұрын
@@brodriguez11000 that was kind of what my joke inferred.
@JuryDutySummons Жыл бұрын
The rosewell "weather balloon" was actually a nucellar detonation detection device (to monitor detonations across the world in Russia). Document recently unclassified revealed this. fun fact!
@DoctorProph3t Жыл бұрын
Or gases reflecting off the light from Venus.
@ShadowknightEX Жыл бұрын
@@JuryDutySummons I’m not sure that that’s too much better.
@arthuradams9138 Жыл бұрын
As someone studying international law at the moment, that description as playground rules was hilariously accurate
@noahfox6328 Жыл бұрын
"And the kids have nukes" bit got me haha
@threeMetreJim Жыл бұрын
My gun 's bigger than your gun. Well, my bomb 's bigger than yours. 🤪
@HurrikanEagle Жыл бұрын
I was thinking back to my internation law class in college and I was like "that is the best summary of international law I've ever heard."
@anthonygordon9483 Жыл бұрын
That goes for pretty much anything though lol. Which is why china steals our technology.
@kruleworld Жыл бұрын
International law is basically 'follow those laws you feel like following', as Russia/UN has proven.
@jannepeltonen2036 Жыл бұрын
As a pilot who actually had to read through the Chicago Convention, yes, this is how I've also understood it works :D Nice to have it confirmed by a lawyer.
@earthenscience Жыл бұрын
@c c Google is unconstitutional and unamerican, so does that really count? Also did the Google balloons have a 2000 lbs payload on them or did they obey the 4 kg payload rules?
@iwilltouchyourtoes Жыл бұрын
@c c ludacris? What does he have to with any of this eh?
@Mrinsecure Жыл бұрын
Who can forget the classic international law precepts of "you can't touch me when I'm on base," "you didn't say I'm out so I'm not out," and "I'm telling Mom?" Truly, the most incisive concepts from the greatest of legal minds.
@cheeseninja1115 Жыл бұрын
encoded into international foreign relations as "you can't arrest me when I'm in a foreign embassy that doesn't grant you permission to enter," "we only signed an armistice not a peace treaty so we are not at peace," and "I can end the world at a push of a button if you don't stop"
@carlwilkerson9722 Жыл бұрын
And the greatest of all time: "Invisible Man on base!"
@Gariel2007 Жыл бұрын
People forget, despite thousand years of evolution, science and culture...We're still just big ass monkeys. You gotta puff out your chest and make a lot of noise, or the other monkeys will throw poo on you. You don't want to be covered in poo do you?
@0v_x0 Жыл бұрын
You only tagged my shirt I didn't feel it!
@Aethian Жыл бұрын
“Im telling Mom.” Worked for those under British law when the Queen Mum was still with us.
@EvaDale Жыл бұрын
Who knew international law about balloons could be so interesting. Thanks for a very clear explanation about all the nuances of this situation.
@NandiCollector Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@78Mathius Жыл бұрын
What surprised me was that the Chicago convention directly dealt with Baloons.
@brianjennings7644 Жыл бұрын
Balloon Law begins in the 1700's.
@brodriguez11000 Жыл бұрын
Inflated opinion of itself. 😀
@Moonhermit- Жыл бұрын
@@78Mathius Well, it's the easiest way to make an unmanned aircraft with not too many moving parts. The Japanese even tried to use balloons launched from submarines to cause forest fires in the US. Didn't work luckily, but still. Add to that the severe (but not completely unreasonable) Cold War paranoia, and you have nations very quickly eliminating all possible loopholes that one could use to either spy on eachother or launch a sneaky nuke. Don't think that the same people doing goofy experiments with psychic powers and truth serums never considered balloons as a potential threat. While we're on the subject of nukes, anyone who joined the "It CoUlD bE uSeD tO sEnD aN StEaLtH nUkE" conversation really doesn't get radar. It's a massive, slow moving balloon with lots of metal parts. Just because the general public didn't know about it until it reached the mainland doesn't mean that it went unnoticed. That thing probably lit up like a Christmas tree on every long range radar post.
@Dargini Жыл бұрын
In international politics, when I hear the question, "Was it legal?" I always remember the golden rule: "Who ever has the "gold" makes the rules."
@normaaliihminen722 Жыл бұрын
And since we live in USA hegemony so… USA has the gold? (And by gold I mean superiority in economic, military, political and of course cultural niche.)
@jsas2047 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't get why this would even be a question. It's American airspace and unauthorized (unlike planes). Over American airspace, American laws are counting. So if the government decides to shoot it down, of course it's legal. They're the one making the rules lol
@frankdobs Жыл бұрын
@@jsas2047 I would guess that nullifies lots of agreements that are already in place and would be a disaster to clean up paperwork wise.
@user-ox3iu1gw6s 11 ай бұрын
@@jsas2047 The guy literally spent 15min eplaining that you've agreed to exclude certain aircraft from this. Also that baloon did as much as possibly theoretically so whatever
@michelleburke476 Жыл бұрын
The inclusion of the rucka rucka Ali video about Liechtenstein cracked me up lol
@7th_Heaven 2 ай бұрын
10:30 to 10:40 was same
@BrickIntyre Жыл бұрын
"Those credentials...plus my gigantic ego...speak for themselves." I almost spit coffee all over my monitor. God I love these guys.
@b.5728 Жыл бұрын
mhm that happened we believe you
@bt4582 Жыл бұрын
@@guyincognito8440 what about the bench press 315 natty joke?
@Tazallax Жыл бұрын
@@bt4582 I thought that was waaay too cringey. The first joke was good because it's indirect commentary on US military big-headedness/arrogance (plus similar assumptions about lawyers), whether they intended it or not
@Silkie_Dragon Жыл бұрын
As a lawyer, jokes about ego hit me with such tremendous force😂 if I had coffee in my mouth, it almost certainly would’ve been relocated somewhere else
@Maelstromme Жыл бұрын
@@Tazallax Both the US and China have arrogance in spades, though China does have it’s whole 5,000 year schtick.
@grzegorzswist Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that in both international politics and schooyards, there are those who can always claim that some rules don't apply to them.
@kneau Жыл бұрын
Even then, enforcement boils down to whichever authority has yard-duty.
@yveslafrance2806 Жыл бұрын
You mean the kids with nukes?
@shootout-shinobi6672 Жыл бұрын
@@yveslafrance2806 basically Russia yes
@Hoo88846 Жыл бұрын
That’s USA.
@Hoo88846 Жыл бұрын
@@shootout-shinobi6672 USA is the kid with the most nukes and the most weapons of mass destruction.
@AlkisGD Жыл бұрын
Spencer feels like a member of the legal avian family at this point. He looks right at home on this channel.
@liltds4347 Жыл бұрын
I like him more than the legal eagle and would rather watch his if he had one
@MrAlexdimm Жыл бұрын
Get off the comments and just let him hit the back of your throat like you want.
@elliott20 Жыл бұрын
But he would need to be his own kind of bird. The Legal Ostrich? The Legal Hawk? The Legal Chicken? The Legal Bluefoot Boobie?
@kitwhite2640 Жыл бұрын
@@elliott20 I forgot exactly what they called him but it has to do with an Owl I think. edit: found it in another comment. he's the Scowl Owl lol
@elliott20 Жыл бұрын
@@kitwhite2640 I love that! His catchphrase would be some variant of just him being really really annoyed at Devon.
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
Biggest hole in the "civilian balloon" that drifted into US airspace is that they didn't even try to notify the US that the balloon was drifting. It and several previous balloons were kept secret as long as possible. If your balloon drifts out of the planned path it would seem common sense to let the people it is drifting towards know about it.
@mtndew4746 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure that all governments will read this comment and stop all spying
@grantharriman284 7 ай бұрын
@@mtndew4746 Were you trying to reply to a different comment because it doesn't seem like you comment has any relevance to mine. I'm talking about their terrible cover up, not about the spying itself.
@mtndew4746 7 ай бұрын
@@grantharriman284 yeah my comment probably seemed great to me when I was writing it but looks kind of weird looking back
@grantharriman284 7 ай бұрын
@@mtndew4746 It's all good enjoy your browsing
@XanatosINC Жыл бұрын
So good to finally see someone brave enough to delve into Balloon Law.
@nobodyimportant7804 Жыл бұрын
If only Legal Eagle would have the courage to dive into Bird Law.
@0v_x0 Жыл бұрын
Balloon Law: almost as much fun as it sounds.
@0v_x0 Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyimportant7804 At least maritime bird law... (I admit it's a total crapshoot to combine references, but there).
@Dayvit78 Жыл бұрын
Gotta stop IT
@dsmiley53 Жыл бұрын
...ascend into Balloon Law?
@rompis.a Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone puts into words what I've been thinking: International relations are like six-year-olds playing in a playground. When one of them feels wronged, they _must_ retaliate in one way or another. Otherwise they'd look weak or whatever.
@princessriahyokai Жыл бұрын
Very true
@dwaynepeters4520 Жыл бұрын
And the way they act like that is because there's no higher authority that can arbitrate cases and impose punishments. For kids, it's because no adult cares if Adam disrespected Bob's pet rock or not. For countries, it's because there's no world government.
@fench1234567 Жыл бұрын
6 yr olds or maybe a huge poker game where no one truly knows if their held cards are enough to beat others' (or mixtures of others' teamed up hands), and no one ever fully knows until it's too late and war is waged.
@PRubin-rh4sr Жыл бұрын
Thats crazy almost like adults.
@flyingpegasus1349 Жыл бұрын
This exactly what my lecturers told during introduction to international law class several years ago and at first I don't really get it untill Several class later when He discussed about humanitarian Law
@anasyn Жыл бұрын
The Scowl Owl is and has been one of the best regular additions to this channel.
@nalanl Жыл бұрын
Not a fan
@CosmicAggressor Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting a clear and concise description of international law that acounts for nations ocasinally trying to claim each other. But you did it in very few words. Great job.
@Fixti0n Жыл бұрын
This is the international equivalent of that one kid going "am not touching you! am not touching you!" as he flails his hands in your face, claiming you cant punch him because he havent punched you, then go crying to the principle when you smack him in the face.
@xsu-is7vq Жыл бұрын
remind me US claiming “unprofessional interception” of its spy planes
@coryzilligen790 Жыл бұрын
@@xsu-is7vq If you're referring to the stuff in early 2020, IIRC, that was over international waters, so that's a completely different situation.
@xsu-is7vq Жыл бұрын
@@coryzilligen790Still making provocations then go crying foul when the reaction is a little strong
@BakingBadOBX Жыл бұрын
@@xsu-is7vq but it's completely different scenario with different laws. Stop forcing your attempted points
@BakingBadOBX Жыл бұрын
you didnt touch me, but you're in my personal space. Same difference in my opinion
@inwalters Жыл бұрын
I'm from South Carolina. The sheriff in my county issued a tweet asking people not to try and shoot this balloon down since it was at 60k feet and they couldn't reach it with their guns.
@BatAskal Жыл бұрын
It is dangerous too. In addition to it, shooting up in the air might cause those stray bullets to hit on someone as well.
@cdogthehedgehog6923 Жыл бұрын
I bet some people tried anyways lol southerners pffft.
@g.k.1669 Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping that some college or industry had a couple hundred watt laser that could make the trip up to that thing and melt a hole in the fabric.
@inwalters Жыл бұрын
@@BatAskal That was in his tweet too. The county I live in voted for Trump and Ralph Norman twice, so the IQ here is not too high, so he had to spell it out why that would be a bad idea.
@chouseification Жыл бұрын
@@garret6464 it's not elitist to realize that the educational system down South has been sabotaged for generations simply so people like Cheeto _could_ be elected... you have the story completely backwards.
@richardgarrett2792 Жыл бұрын
This was such a perfect example of why I subscribed to you here on YT and on Nebula. Taking a murky matter and clarifying it without resorting to ELI5, although it works on that level too. Bravo to both of you.
@MarkBarrett Жыл бұрын
China: "Give us our ballon back." USA: "No."
@lenzzzzzzz Жыл бұрын
See why can’t the news explain it like this. Literally y’all made more sense in 16 mins then any news network has at all.
@jesuszamora6949 Жыл бұрын
@Ryan Vigus Not like most things. They're selling fear.
@jesuszamora6949 Жыл бұрын
@Ryan Vigus Fair.
@Dogpool Жыл бұрын
Yes. They go on and on about nothing. It actually makes a person dumber to watch. So dumb they may have just went out there at the advice of some influencers to try and shoot it down
@Tjalve70 Жыл бұрын
Because news media has to explain things in a way that even idiots will understand. Or at the very least explain it in such a way that idiots can pretend to have understood it. Also, you have to keep i mind that most of the time, the journalists have no idea what they're talking about.
@waichong9389 Жыл бұрын
All western media are the biggest shareholders in Lockheed Martin and weapons companies in America.
@maluinthe90s Жыл бұрын
Every night I look up and say, "Goodnight stars. Goodnight moon. Goodnight Chinese spy balloon."
@kristywithak8775 Жыл бұрын
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@ChickenPizza Жыл бұрын
🤣
@Hoo88846 Жыл бұрын
What evidence do you have that it’s a “spy” balloon?
@Twisted_Code Жыл бұрын
the comparison between sovereign states and preschoolers with nukes had me cracking up for a solid 30 seconds and that's just if we count the continuous time
@Yupppi Жыл бұрын
It makes me curious that it's even a consideration if shooting a spy balloon is legal. I was under the impression that most countries's national law bans spying and it is usually an offense against diplomacy between the countries. Obviously everyone does it, but you're not supposed to get caught.
@RCJones560 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say props to the editor for all the great visual gags and just visuals in general
@Wergoss Жыл бұрын
the visual gags are annoying
@DembaraLemoon Жыл бұрын
I mean, some are just lifted from others. The Liechtenstein one, for example.
@Gaaraloverr1 Жыл бұрын
Comparing the governments of the world to children on a playground is one of the funniest and most accurate metaphors I've ever heard 😆
@JolanXBL Жыл бұрын
..and some children have nukes
@LabGecko Жыл бұрын
@@JolanXBL yeah, that part's way less fun
@jessicap4998 Жыл бұрын
Like CalvinBall, from the Calvin and Hobbes comics.
@doctorfuckmen Жыл бұрын
was never expecting a rucka rucka ali song in a lawyer video
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I love these charming, quick witted, sarcastic, square jawed, full headed, well dressed gigachad lawyers. They get me dying with some of their quick one liners, and deadpan delivery. “I guess that’s one problem that shooting guns wildly up in the air won’t solve… first time for everything”
@HopeRock425 Жыл бұрын
I did even realise that was a joke, his deadpan is too good. I can't remember the last time I noticed they were joking.
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@@HopeRock425 for reference, about 40% of each episode :P
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Won’t sold? Do you mean ‘won’t solve’.
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@@travelwell6049 first thing for everything
@Transblucency Жыл бұрын
@@travelwell6049 No, he had it right.
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I love how nuanced and precise your content always is. Even among lawyers, that's an increasingly rare trait these days.
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Are there any particular lawyers you find to be less than precise in their public presentation (as if that was a hard question)? Cheers
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@@TesserId Most KZfaq lawyers only say "it depends" without going through the process of deep research and citation. Like Attorney Tom. Most lawtube is just reactions.
@ginnyjollykidd Жыл бұрын
Being anti-joke chicken here, Rudy Giuliani comes to mind.
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@@jayspeidell I agree for most but I’ve found that LegalBytes is pretty good and thorough too
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@@katla_phc Audit the Audit is another good one, and they dive even deeper into the details of a case.
@robertencarnacao6377 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review of the law around this topic. Thank you!
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International law was my absolute favourite at university. I'd LOVE more videos on it!
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I love how this gentleman presents. His voice is calm, gentle, yet upbeat enough to keep my attention. It's military without being intimidating or scary. I really like him.
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He also has a fresh cut
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Totally agreed. I’ve seen him here as a guest before. I can’t recall his name or whether he has his own channel. I’d follow him. I get a kick out of the way he explains the law.
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So, if he was scary and intimidating, it wouldn't get your attention? I say, both would get my attention either way, though. Lol.
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@Daniel Seven I think his name was mentioned in a previous video and I think LegalEagle should at least put his name in the description whenever he makes an appearance.
@ornithobiography Жыл бұрын
@@mastod0n1 His name is Spencer the ScowlOwl, first featured on the Adnan Syed video. According to Legal Eagle, he's the resident Criminal Law expert whenever LE makes a video on high profile criminal case subjects.
@me0101001000 Жыл бұрын
I swear to god, every time I think that any kind of law is just mind numbing and boring, something gets put out by you all that makes it fascinating. Thanks for making law interesting. I'll never be a lawyer, but I'll always happily learn more about it from you.
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Bulk is conflict resolution. Either prevention, or what comes after.
@0v_x0 Жыл бұрын
Funny, it's a very old Chinese 'insult' to tell someone "may you live in interesting times." I think it's kind of a Taoist joke of sorts, but now everyone including China is in a pretty interesting time.
@vincentlee7359 Жыл бұрын
It's only interesting because you aren't reading it. You're watching someone talk about it on YT using some creative edits and script.
@CraftyVegan Жыл бұрын
@@vincentlee7359 exactly this. Legal text is what people read when they want to cure their insomnia (every variety of legal text, really, but corporate law is the worst at keeping anyone interested) Excellent editing and clever writing can make anything interesting.
@matthew2532 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your coverage! This perspective provides much needed context.
@zhli4238 Жыл бұрын
Aside from legal issues, balloon can fly at high altitudes beyond anything riding on air, so it is difficult to reach it. It is also difficult to target it as the inside is just another air of helium. This balloon was filmed by a regular guy named Chase Doak in Montana, and he post it on the internet, then it's no secret anymore and it became all diplomatic.
@zacharytaylor190 Жыл бұрын
Me, suddenly remembering what I was taught in my air law class: But in all seriousness, the balloon was in controlled airspace. All airspace between 18,000' and 60,000' AMSL is Class A airspace, within which aircraft can only enter with clearance, and even then only under IFR. Not only is it a credible matter of national security, but also for aircraft navigation. Not having a transponder, it would not appear on TCAS, and therefore presents a definite threat, as per the published NOTAMs at the time.
@orbitalpotato9940 Жыл бұрын
The balloon was flying above 65000ft though which puts it in class E uncontrolled airspace.
@zacharytaylor190 Жыл бұрын
@@orbitalpotato9940 Class E is not uncontrolled airspace, though. That would be Class G. Class E is, by ICAO standards, controlled airspace not classified as A, B, C, or D. It is generally less controlled, but it is still controlled airspace from FL600 up to the Karman Line.
@orbitalpotato9940 Жыл бұрын
@@zacharytaylor190 Yes i got those mixed up, but it still doesn't change the fact the balloon did not pose any threat whatsoever to flying aircraft. Civilian almost never fly above 50,000ft. And if I remember correctly, you don't need clearance to fly in class E airspace even though it is controlled airspace.
@zacharytaylor190 Жыл бұрын
@@orbitalpotato9940 Interesting then that when I read the NOTAM for CZEG, it notated vigilance between FL200 and FL450, all within Class A. Was Transport Canada really that far off?
@specialnewb9821 Жыл бұрын
@@orbitalpotato9940 you are the only person i have seen say 65k. Proof?
@reachthroughreality Жыл бұрын
If it was just a weather balloon that went off path you'd think they'd give a heads up that the ball got out of the yard. If it just shows up with no warning, it's probably something shady.
@davidy22 Жыл бұрын
What's more likely, they chose to not tell anyone that they lost control of their weather balloon or they sent a big white balloon that civilians could see as a spy craft?
@psychickumquat Жыл бұрын
And I imagine the DoD knows how to tell the difference between a meteorological and a surveillance balloon. There's probably hundreds to thousands of weather balloons that fly over our country every year, and I think it's safe to assume that they don't go shooting down every one and we just don't hear about it.
@duelgundam Жыл бұрын
It's china. When have they ever been honest about anything but atrocities committed against them in WWII?
@luckyleafgaming3062 Жыл бұрын
@@davidy22 Plenty of the equipment on it has been identified as military surveillance unrelated to meteorology. West Taiwan is gonna have a bad a day trying to weasel their way out of this one.
@kikixchannel Жыл бұрын
@@psychickumquat If it weights more than 4kg, it needs authorization, weather balloon or not. If that balloon fell, it would devastate whatever it fell on. On that account alone it should require authorization.
@oobs35 Жыл бұрын
It's like when you get a balloon as a kid and you lose it and point to the sky and cry to your dad
@dukenukem3568 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the intelligent discussion of this topic with references to facts.
@gimmeshelter555 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize how big the device on the bottom of the balloon was; I can definitely see why shooting it down over the soil was a safety issue.
@edwardbernays4703 Жыл бұрын
It was as large as 3 buses in volume, but filled with air. It could not weight more than 100 kilos.
@SynitarEU Жыл бұрын
@@edwardbernays4703 100kg at terminal velocity because it was in free fall for thousands of feet would still do a lot of damage
@edwardbernays4703 Жыл бұрын
@@SynitarEU I don't wish to argue the conclusion, just pointing out that he lied about the payload.
@questionmaker5666 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardbernays4703 Still more than 4kg
@frizzlethecat2084 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardbernays4703 maybe the balloon itself. But it was carrying stuff, so...
@itsRucka Жыл бұрын
How about a song credit, Lawyer man?
@kneau Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth -- someone commenting, "didn't expect Rucka in this video" is how I learned of your existence. No mention in the description either. On all channels, what an odd omission.
@pokehybridtrainer Жыл бұрын
@@kneau Big same. Never knew you existed until this exact moment.
@nasonguy Жыл бұрын
OMG you should sue him. I know a guy.... Big time copyright lawyer on KZfaq....
@SomeRandomDevOpsGuy Жыл бұрын
@@kneau There's a similar comment on this video, from @VVach, even giving the time stamp. So at least there's some form of exposure even if they didn't provide the due song credit. (As they should have, for sure)
@insertianameia2224 Жыл бұрын
I thought you stopped making music after I couldn't find you in YT anymore. I'm honestly glad to hear you still have a channel.
@Kippenhok2019 5 ай бұрын
Hearing Rucka Rucka Ali in a Legal Eagle video is amazing!!
@davidwiley4953 Жыл бұрын
This was thoroughly educational. I learned a lot.
@Nico_M. Жыл бұрын
-What the hell is this?! -It's a... high-altitude weather balloon, which flew off course. -OK, that sounds plausible... Waaaaaait a minute, why does it have a gun and a poison needle? -Because... it's a... very NAUGHTY high-altitude weather ballon.
@noonehere8282 Жыл бұрын
An Oversimplified reference!? (Seriously, how does this have no replies?)
@Tundraviper41 Жыл бұрын
@@noonehere8282 it does now
@burrybondz225 Жыл бұрын
Mosr irresponsible channel ever.
@jamescameron9420 Жыл бұрын
just remember, this was the F-22s *first* air to air kill (in 25 years since its creation)
@ilovefunnyamv2nd Жыл бұрын
*sound of static * "like shooting fish in a barrel"
@cmdraftbrn Жыл бұрын
the f-35 will slaughter watermelons
@kneau Жыл бұрын
Really putting that simulated kill-ratio of 221-0, to good use.
@Blackadder75 Жыл бұрын
wow, it's first kill, what a feat! I remember flying that plane 30 years ago in a MS-DOS game. I feel cheated, I had to fight all kinds of MiGs and other soviet made aircraft. that game should have been much more easy, just shooting at some balloons
@hamsterfromabove8905 Жыл бұрын
The F-22 is well described as a plane without a mission. It was designed to be the world's best air to air superiority fighter. But by the time research, development, and production was complete the US was done fighting near peer adversaries. The US hasn't needed to shoot down enemy fighters in a while now. Wonder if the F-22 will see use in the next 15 years against Russia or China.
@tylerparziale868 Жыл бұрын
Rucka Rucka ali clip in a legal eagle video. Crossover i never knew i needed
@jellysharkbat Жыл бұрын
Gotta love a LegalEagle and ScowlOwl combo.
@josephwhitaker6574 Жыл бұрын
I've been loving these collaborations. You're both incredible lawyers that do an amazing job balancing information and entertainment in every video.
@Moose92411 Жыл бұрын
As a parent with young children, the explanation at 3:30 is dead on accurate.
@beehard44 Жыл бұрын
true I hate it when kids have nukes
@LeCharles07 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if some of them had nukes? 😬
@tehpw7574 Жыл бұрын
@@LeCharles07 *raises hand* I guess the question remains: Type of Nuke? (real? Fictional, such as a Standard Anime Nuke, Macross's infamous Reaction Warheads or Dimensional Bombs, Battletech's Alamo-class warheads, N2 mines from NGE, etc.)
@Moose92411 Жыл бұрын
@@LeCharles07 sometimes it seems like my sons have their own version of sanity-destroying, household ruining nuclear weapons.
@LisaAnn777 Жыл бұрын
How many nukes do they have? ☢️🚀
@happyscubadiverinca6856 Жыл бұрын
I like the other attorney's voice and demeanor. This colab really works. Who is that attorney? You did it again, unraveling the legal verbiage into understandable information.
@cecilelaforce3686 Жыл бұрын
Loved the show! Thank you!
@lifotheparty6195 Жыл бұрын
I had been wondering why he was a strange guy for a soldier but now that he said he was an officer in artillery, it all comes together.
@Khronogi Жыл бұрын
Did he say he was jtac?
@maspesasmasperras5554 Жыл бұрын
Explain yourself civilian
@quicksilver3287 Жыл бұрын
@@Khronogi yeeee
@tehpw7574 Жыл бұрын
he's got a list of divergent MOS's which isn't as far fetched a thing as it used to be...
@christianboehlefeld5168 Жыл бұрын
He does list his credentials in each of his appearences. The videos about Top Gun and A Few Good Men.
@surrexi Жыл бұрын
i have legit been refusing to give any energy to thinking about the balloon until i could see a calm and rational take on it just like this, so thank you for pushing this out!
@dboi1656 Жыл бұрын
I'm more upset about the CGI plane in this video NOT being an F-22 than I ever was about *El Globo*
@omalleycaboose5937 Жыл бұрын
I mean I never felt it was a threat, I'm sure they just want to have information on us just like we get of them, I am happy we blew it up tho cause destroying Chinas toys is cool
@blublubblub Жыл бұрын
The histeric "Headless Chicken Little running around flapping their wings" reaction or American armchair generals "genuinely concerned" about how "weak" the US has "clearly" become hecause the Pentagon was showing caution and didn't shoot down the thing instantly, and the ridiculous conspiracy theories about possible chemical or biological agents on the balloon (trying to argue... A cassus belli for starting WW3? I honestly don't know WHAT these people think China is trying to do, or what exactly they would consider an appropiate "non-wimp" response, nuking Beijing?) would be entirely laughable if the American People hadn't been tricked into supporting such stuff as the 2003 Irak Invasion and the Patriot Act under the most obvious of false pretenses. Like, you'd half expect W. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld or Powell being found giggling crouched behind a podium at how easily people fell for it. It's depressing how many chauvinistic imbeciles who feel threatened in their manhood by the US' firm but cautious and non-panicky response there are. You'd think of all people it would be Americans who would be least afraid of this. Instead it's been 24/7 politically-driven crying to mama about incompetence and calling the time of death for the US for a whole week. How can people fall for this sh!t every time?
@SadEyes1412 Жыл бұрын
Look at Combat Veteran Reacts take on it. Also pretty informative. :)
@Twisted_Code Жыл бұрын
same! Too much hotheaded and sensationalized BS goes around with stuff like this. Some people just want to watch the world burn or can't see past their own emotions.
@Vipre- Жыл бұрын
Totally legal. In support I'd like to cite the precedent set forth in the landmark case of What Are You Going vs. To Do About It
@Pimdici Жыл бұрын
"Also, some of the kids have nukes" my new fav quote
@faustlican5566 Жыл бұрын
RIP Chinese Balloon. You may be gone, but your memes will live on
@lelanddyer9461 Жыл бұрын
I feel like if these balloons are mistakes, they'd take the liberty to tell us before it was over our airspace. "Hey FYI these balloons are getting out of control just so you know lmao."
@linl1966 Жыл бұрын
if that was a legit enterprise not government related ones, u should know full well how normal companies (in all countries) work regarding mistakes they made.. *points finger at another person or assume it didn't happen until found out. 😶🌫*imo, a group of ppl definitely got fired over this mess (and maybe facing legal troubles as an enterprise)
@CosmicHarmony58 Жыл бұрын
ya exactly instead of jeopardizing relations…it’s definitely intended
@CalmClamFam Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you have a rogue balloon that is sizable enough to do damage at terminal velocity, you should probably warn somebody beforehand.
@trancepeirce3107 Жыл бұрын
Did all 5+ giant balloons go out of control and drift over the Americas? Did any drift to Russia? After the first time, maybe they should fix the issue.
@Real_OSHA_Unsafety_Engineer Жыл бұрын
They've been in contact with US and telling them in advance that their weather balloons are flying all over the Westerlies because Southeast winds keeps pushing them north...
@danarenekalina1973 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you for the breakdown.
@ypw510 Жыл бұрын
Best wishes for Spencer for his upcoming wedding. It's been fun watching him do guest spots here.
@bobbyfeet2240 Жыл бұрын
"or cut through some farmer's field due to some bloody war" Or some British dude in an office in London who had never set foot in the area. That is weirdly popular.
@jintsuubest9331 Жыл бұрын
Make that the Brritish bloke and a Frenchman. Funny how they can work together sometimes.
@Sableagle Жыл бұрын
"Art thou tryin ta start another War o' t' bleedin' Roses? Thy new Yorkshuh-Lancashuh Baand'ry runs raht through mah parlour!" - unhappy farmer, _Giles_ cartoon.
@dunmermage Жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about the British, but no one remembers that one time that Portugal and Spain claimed half of the planet each with the blessings of the Vatican.
@andrasbiro3007 Жыл бұрын
@@dunmermage I'm sure the "Indians" remember.
@penname8441 Жыл бұрын
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@HalfLifeExpert1 Жыл бұрын
NOTE: The Open Skies treaty was not a thing during the 1st Cold War (being signed in 1992). Incidents like the 1960 U-2 flight that was shot down, along with a lot of other Western recon incursions into the USSR, were absolutely illegal under international law at the time. But as with pre-school playground rules, responses varied. At some point it was understood by both sides that, to a certain extent, these recon ops were permissible without much fuss.
@dennisbrown5313 Жыл бұрын
And Russia still makes military over flights of Alaska; the US sends a fighter up and they run away. It is and remains a game that both sides still play. We test our radar and response systems, and they test it as well - a win/win. We could easily ambush and shoot their fighter(s) down but that serves no purpose and defeats the purpose that both sides gain from the game. So, not exactly been one sided on violation of airspace solely by the US.
@Petrico94 Жыл бұрын
"You can do it, just don't get caught"
@louisazraels7072 Жыл бұрын
yeah its quite funny, its like they went "boys, we know we can't help ourselves, that much is clear, better avoid another world war and just make it legal"
@ailivac Жыл бұрын
Also a "surprise" mission like this wouldn't be allowed even if China were an Open Skies signatory. The equipment used has to meet specific resolution and spectral band limits and has to be approved by all countries before being deployed. And each country planning a mission has to notify the country being flown over first, who is allowed to inspect the equipment before any imagery is collected and has representatives on board the aircraft during the mission. Then the images are required to be shared with any other countries in the treaty that request access.
@mattdombrowski8435 Жыл бұрын
The US couldn't make a big deal about it because that would involve admitting to routinely violating international law. Russia couldn't make a big deal about it because that would involve admitting that they were powerless to stop an aerial incursion. Fun times.
@ZergS4uc3 Жыл бұрын
thanks for nearly killing me with the "and some of those kids have nukes" line, teach me to have a sip while watching a vid lol
@robertblanchard-lanoue0711 Жыл бұрын
Thank you...always love to hear the real history...
@itsRucka Жыл бұрын
Cool song about Liechtenstein
@kneau Жыл бұрын
An apt attitude to have & share.
@sjoe Жыл бұрын
I loved it, if I only knew who made it.
@D2attemp Жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! I remember in Futurama during an alien invasion Zapp Brannigan told every civilian without a space ship to grab a gun and fire wildly up into the air. And he’s 25 star General!
@ChrispyNut Жыл бұрын
So, that's who MTG looks up to, a 25 star idiot general. Explains all of the things!
@gabrielvazquez1691 Жыл бұрын
Loving these military breakdowns
@tkskagen Жыл бұрын
One of your BEST episodes!
@tomifost Жыл бұрын
The playground reference was good. Especially cause this "civilian" balloon was the equivalent of wiggling your finger in someone's face and saying "not touching!"
@xsu-is7vq Жыл бұрын
it’s still less of a provocation than US repeatedly sailing warships through Chinese territorial water claiming innocent passage.
@littlekong7685 Жыл бұрын
Yes "civilian" our military painted the word civilian on it after loading it with military gear for the military and launching it from a military base, so it counts as civilian =p
@EebstertheGreat Жыл бұрын
@@xsu-is7vq lol China claims the entire South China Sea. Of course we sail through it. Look at the nine-dash line, it's utterly ludicrous and does not comport with the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, to which it is a party. You make it sound like we're parking our ships right off your coast, but it's actually more like if we tried to claim the entire Caribbean as territorial waters.
@agilemind6241 Жыл бұрын
@@xsu-is7vq Those waters aren't recognized as such by any international treaty or convention. Thus no country is bound to respect them. You can't just poke a finger on a map and say "mine" and then throw a hissy fit when other people keep sailing through it. That's not how it works. If you're going to troll for a handful of Yen from the PRoC, do it somewhere else.
@jameson1239 Жыл бұрын
@@xsu-is7vq not your waters on any international treaty
@bmartinez7173 Жыл бұрын
"Can still rep 315 natty on the bench press" I appreciated that.
@rob9781 Жыл бұрын
Very much enjoyed this analysis
@NoahSpurrier Жыл бұрын
Finally, real answers. I had all these questions and every one was answered.
@Nickle_King Жыл бұрын
"They shot down my thing!" "You're thing was over my house taking pictures through my window!" "Butbutbut... YOU SHOT DOWN MY THING! And it's not like your the ONLY window I take pictures in!" "THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT BETTER!"
@richardpike8748 Жыл бұрын
I imagined two neighbors yelling at each other when I read this 🤣
@jeradw7420 Жыл бұрын
And I will be wanting my thing back and you owe me for breaking it.
@0ntimetaiment921 Жыл бұрын
Then again: If your phone/camera/drone fell on your neighbors lawn and he smashed it with a hammer instead of giving it back... would you be mad or not?
@Desolator-ny7cb Жыл бұрын
@@0ntimetaiment921 I think this video is analyzing whether your phone fell on your neighbor's lawn and then him smashing it or You throwing it into your neighbor's lawn and then him smashing it.
@jeradw7420 Жыл бұрын
@@0ntimetaiment921 I wouldn't be flying my drone over my neighbor's house without permission so if I allowed my drone or phone to end up in my neighbor's yard, I must also accept that he may do that. Would you be made at your neighbor for spraying weed killer wildly in the air, some of which lands on your lawn, and then going "oops, I didn't know about wind. It's harmless and I didn't mean it. Trust me."
@Kei-ye8if Жыл бұрын
Spencer opening the topic immediately with my favourite stupid joke of all time I feel so oddly catered to right now
@AnAccount Жыл бұрын
This dude used a Rucka Rucka Ali song in his vid?? Respect!
@Appplethefruit Жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff, yet again.
@Meetthekiller7 Жыл бұрын
I just hope that the aircraft that shot down the thing gets a balloon etched on the side like how old fighter craft would mark down kills lmao
@TheCatLady65 Жыл бұрын
I hope they get prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
@Khronogi Жыл бұрын
@@TheCatLady65 what crime
@EricChien95 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if the AC-130 gunship that bombed the Doctors without Borders Hospital in Afghanistan have the Medic Cross etched on its side to mark down its kills, or heck the B-2 bombers that bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade should also have a Chinese flag etched onto it, would be kinda cool.
@kneau Жыл бұрын
@@Khronogi maybe they don't realize the aircraft has a _simulated_ kill-ratio of 221-0. "Simulated" being the key word here.
@stevenschwartzhoff1703 Жыл бұрын
During WW II there were pilots assigned to shooting down Japanese baloon bombs over the Pacific. My brief Google search did not reveal of there was a specific "victory marking" for baloons. I would assume so. Several people died on Oregon when one of the bombs landed at a picnic. It may sound like a booring job, but navigating far out to sea with the technology available was no small matter. (The British also used baloon bombs against Germany early on the war, but is is less well known.)
@dominicsurette2890 Жыл бұрын
I just gotta say your editor deserves a raise 😂
@arturopelayo202 Жыл бұрын
Really happy that Phillip De Franco shot a link to this page. The collab would be great when it happens
@schoolgirlmellie Жыл бұрын
once again great collab
@aarongomez2032 Жыл бұрын
Your kids on the playground analogy to international law was brilliant! Also great basics on international law. Thanks!
@scottmcshannon6821 Жыл бұрын
international law is a pretend, as long as enough countries pretend , its a little real.
@IlicSorrentino 10 ай бұрын
I love the addition of Scowl Owl... two birds of a feather!
@bennyton2560 Жыл бұрын
we love hearing about International Law! As an IR major, this is slightly easier to digest and fun
@lbboardingb3356 Жыл бұрын
International law is essentially whatever you think you get away with and explain away so long as you got the force to back it up
@annodomini2012 Жыл бұрын
International law has never applied to the United States
@lbboardingb3356 Жыл бұрын
@@annodomini2012 see, this guy gets it
@xsu-is7vq Жыл бұрын
@@annodomini2012 nah. It applied prior to 1945. Still somewhat applied prior to 1992.
@commscan314 Жыл бұрын
@@xsu-is7vq It never applied to any of the five UNSC members after '45.
@yddet4369 Жыл бұрын
It's basically might makes right.
@SuiLagadema Жыл бұрын
TLDR: If you enter a country's airspace without authorization, notification and you're not a civil flight, they can shoot you down.
@lordnatu Жыл бұрын
TL;DR: You can do what you want on your own territory regardless of whether or not it's authorized, notified or civil, because international law is weak. It's all political.
@Shade01982 Жыл бұрын
@@lordnatu As long as you have the power and will to deal with the aftermath. Politics is bullying by nature.
@Nemesis_HamdyEisa-Type 11 ай бұрын
6:57-7:08 Good to know that Rucka Rucka Ali got at least a few seconds of legal representation in this video!🧠😆
@ninaseda9193 Жыл бұрын
Great video!👏🏻
@ShadowSlith789 Жыл бұрын
7:00 never thought id hear Rucka on a discussion of international law
@seamusbenn2967 Жыл бұрын
I read this before I came to that part of the video and I was still questioning the inclusion
@devistater6558 Жыл бұрын
Same lol
@imperialfish454 Жыл бұрын
Shame they weren't even credited about it
@rolfdekkers1043 Жыл бұрын
I love Spencer, he is oddly charming, his ego just my level and he talks really clear and precise as I expect a prosecutor should. I like him covering subjects. Don't worry Devon I still love watching you too.
@jayzeetv Жыл бұрын
how did I miss the rucka rucka ali bit in this one :D
@jarrodking1997 Жыл бұрын
I would still like to see you do a review of the 1983 Night Court.
@seansterling5322 Жыл бұрын
Ok that clip of "I'm not a fan of lichtenstein" cracked me up
@tangentreverent4821 Жыл бұрын
Objection: if something is not going to plan, it's custom to inform people who will be affected.
@SmiddleRiddle Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting my local Sherriff's office to be quoted in a LeagleEagle video. 😂
@rickmorris338 Жыл бұрын
hello, it would be nice if you told you all the truth and knew what he was talking about.
@rrad3926 Жыл бұрын
Always a good video.
@Argonwolfproject Жыл бұрын
International relations are less about who's going to allow you to do things and more about who's going to stop you from doing them.
@gregmaccollum2098 Жыл бұрын
Just had a great discussion in my high school class about this. Your international politics metaphor may be the single best description I've heard about it since I started trying to learn about it, so, so long ago!
@XXX3155 Жыл бұрын
Ah we have a future poli sci student
@Slyfoxx Жыл бұрын
@@XXX3155 Could be a teacher
@madarchmage1151 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@thechadillac1211 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy this channel! Funny, interesting and ….educational? What a concept!
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