Hermann Tomyris Viable? [Preliminary test results] Rise of Kingdoms

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In this video sponsored by the makers of Rise of Kingdoms we'll review preliminary testing for Tomyris in the open field. We'll only really understand how viable she is with group testing, but this is a starting point. Big shoutout to Revelate for sharing these test results
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@Chisgule
@Chisgule 6 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to testing the Hermann Tomyris combo in a 5v5 situation to get a better sense of how it would perform in a group fight. Big thank you to Revelate for doing this testing and sending the reports! discord.gg/chisgule
@manuelcarrera3202
@manuelcarrera3202 6 ай бұрын
Just think about this; Trajan Ashur
@waltercariani4.20
@waltercariani4.20 6 ай бұрын
Dont forget that Hermann Expertise will be more viable in kvk where there is the Tomyres support skill.
@haydisaid6405
@haydisaid6405 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but what is kvk?
@pwon
@pwon 6 ай бұрын
Big shoutout to our man, REVELATE!
@PainPills
@PainPills 6 ай бұрын
love ur vids bro keep it up!
@xuandsus
@xuandsus 6 ай бұрын
did test this hermann prime pairing with tomirys, and it seems they are not a good pairing. the result i saw was the the stack of poison stop at 10, because of the tomirys skill, maybe need more test.. but i do feel that these two are not mean together :)
@degreatautismo
@degreatautismo 6 ай бұрын
Personally as an Archer main, Running 3 marches I'm using Boudica Artemisia, Zhuge YSG and Hermann Tomyris. I defiantly notice Hermann isn't dealing massive damage, but i can see a HUGE increase on my other 2 archer marches skill damage.
@RICARDORR18
@RICARDORR18 3 ай бұрын
What you think about Boudica tomy, he ry ysg and herman zhu?
@twin__turbo__8980
@twin__turbo__8980 6 ай бұрын
But we need to see a test herman/tommy vs 3 marches , becouse maybe tommy only remove the poison stacks for the target only , the other marches keep with the poisen , and if get stack more fast this herman expertise come more times and more faster i believe.
@RICARDORR18
@RICARDORR18 3 ай бұрын
Same doubts
@MervinLee-mp7li
@MervinLee-mp7li 6 ай бұрын
any results on Gorgo LC vs Zhuge Hermann P ?
@user-ox3ww5pf7i
@user-ox3ww5pf7i 6 ай бұрын
Hi Mrs.Chisgule I'm new and I've been watching your video,A want to ask is my growth was fast i been playing for 4 days and my power is 120k free to play am i doing grate?
@qige4234
@qige4234 6 ай бұрын
tell you a secret, herman+sargon will be incredibly good in the “right map”, there are more synergy than Tommy.
@rokBane31
@rokBane31 6 ай бұрын
Sargon does not even do skill damage bro.
@samsouhrada2486
@samsouhrada2486 6 ай бұрын
thats lc homie@@rokBane31
@ChmieluGD
@ChmieluGD 6 ай бұрын
you are clearly slow@@rokBane31
@0scarLYS
@0scarLYS 6 ай бұрын
The def reduction debuff I think will not stack instead it will overwrite the lower def reduction. So it would be Tomy’s 30% def reduction instead both together 50%. Had to ask Lilith for confirmation
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 6 ай бұрын
This is not how passive debuffs work in the game, unless they changed it specifically for these commanders?
@degreatautismo
@degreatautismo 6 ай бұрын
I can confirm, they DO stack. Just did some testing to check, and i have the target getting affected by both making it 50%
@LNA.3
@LNA.3 6 ай бұрын
Dont forget the monthly tierlist 😊
@jahkenruss3029
@jahkenruss3029 6 ай бұрын
Hello testing hermann with thoutmosis can be good together
@thesuicidecrew8316
@thesuicidecrew8316 6 ай бұрын
For my 4 openfield archer maches i loove hermann
@lizardjesus2501
@lizardjesus2501 6 ай бұрын
I’m gonna use Herman/tomy and keep my ZL with Honda
@Jac76906
@Jac76906 6 ай бұрын
*facepalm*
@royalexodus2666
@royalexodus2666 6 ай бұрын
3:34 "the truth", damn this must be real serious then
@kevinpaycheck9841
@kevinpaycheck9841 6 ай бұрын
Does liu che benefit on offense at all from the poisoned targets in a ball?
@TJMiton
@TJMiton 6 ай бұрын
nope
@lycan39
@lycan39 6 ай бұрын
Hermann Prime great as secondary
@nobias6172
@nobias6172 6 ай бұрын
Boudicca and Herman both have animal fur on them. That’s my pair
@kadirouf2993
@kadirouf2993 6 ай бұрын
هيرمان قائد دعم يصلح للاعبي المشاه والفرسان لدعم مسيراتهم
@Currie.McFlurry
@Currie.McFlurry 6 ай бұрын
Question, need advice on best 2 archer pairs. Have ZL, Boudica, Henry, Hermann and YSG maxed. Would rather not bench an soc comm for a pre-soc comm if possible
@Currie.McFlurry
@Currie.McFlurry 6 ай бұрын
I don't really have an interest In investing in ashur since I'm not a rally lead, but I will if need be
@harryni1234
@harryni1234 6 ай бұрын
Easy: Henry ZL, Boudica Herman
@Dad123Gone-Withmilk
@Dad123Gone-Withmilk 6 ай бұрын
@@harryni1234Boudicca Herman sucks because of his third skill
@Currie.McFlurry
@Currie.McFlurry 6 ай бұрын
That's what I'm worried about lol. I did 2v2 testing and ZL/Hermann and Boudica/Henry performed the best, but also, a 2v2 doesn't simulate open field effectiveness well
@Currie.McFlurry
@Currie.McFlurry 6 ай бұрын
@harryni1234 that's kind of what I was leaning towards, just sucks that means I lose out on the AOE damage bonus
@user-hg1xl1eg4z
@user-hg1xl1eg4z 6 ай бұрын
We don't have this kind of Carpenters now
@nathanielraynes4614
@nathanielraynes4614 6 ай бұрын
At full expert and the museum buff tomy will do well but I still see her s a swarm piece not openfield ill let you know I finish Herman how it really does as an archer main. I'm betting you pair her else where in a ball so your Herman has zhuge your boudica has arte or asher ? As nebu 2.0 , leaving henry with ysg tomy or nebu I can't see her fitting in which is sad since her nuke and debuffs can be cracked have to wait and see more Herman's on field better one tomy will be
@thesuicidecrew8316
@thesuicidecrew8316 6 ай бұрын
Since tomyris came out she always is in my 5 marches openfield shes a beast
@jeffa8683
@jeffa8683 6 ай бұрын
Honda herman please test
@TJMiton
@TJMiton 6 ай бұрын
KVK2 commander not good with latest meta commanders despite minor synergies? I for one am shocked...
@patrickmorgan869
@patrickmorgan869 6 ай бұрын
Well Constantine was so there's some precedent
@TJMiton
@TJMiton 6 ай бұрын
@@patrickmorgan869nope, constantine is also complete dog water with any commander in the field.
@patrickmorgan869
@patrickmorgan869 6 ай бұрын
@@TJMiton talking about as a garrison
@TJMiton
@TJMiton 6 ай бұрын
@@patrickmorgan869 yes....and this is a field video....
@Reaps_AW
@Reaps_AW 6 ай бұрын
How to get it
@JS-.-
@JS-.- 6 ай бұрын
Is there info on benefits of using Boudica / Hermann versus Boudica / YSG?
@waltercariani4.20
@waltercariani4.20 6 ай бұрын
In theory it would be better. And the boudica 35% skill dmg increase stack with herman poison. Hermann has more stats and utility than ysg. The thing is: boudica is single target dmg.
@JS-.-
@JS-.- 6 ай бұрын
I have 1 archer march and no Zhuge. Maybe I save statues and not use Hermann and keep Boudica YSG? Is Hermann worth the gold heads? I’m a 3 infantry march and 1 archer march.
@waltercariani4.20
@waltercariani4.20 6 ай бұрын
@@JS-.- it's a choice, but I would stick with boudica ysg for now. Wait for the next cavs. I think next cavs will be op.
@waltercariani4.20
@waltercariani4.20 6 ай бұрын
@@JS-.- I imagine that u already have Liu Che right? Cause Liu Che is the most priority commander right now. Long side with Scipio or Gorgo.
@JS-.-
@JS-.- 6 ай бұрын
@@waltercariani4.20 Liu/Sargon then Guan/Scipio then Boudica/YSG…rarely I pull out Martel/Alex. I have very little gear for cavs but I have Nevsky/Mehmed if I must bring out 5 marches. I just find that I don’t get great trades with my Nevsky march.
@kimkong4163
@kimkong4163 6 ай бұрын
An option is when you go with 3archer marches is using william tomy to stack up poison and before skill hits,switch target so stacks getting not cleared.......
@kimkong4163
@kimkong4163 6 ай бұрын
Sry Not William.... Heinrich i meant...😅
@KNNY61
@KNNY61 6 ай бұрын
In a scrum, having to rely on precision like that with lag, graphic glitches, and the like... is a big ask, wouldn't you say?
@kimkong4163
@kimkong4163 6 ай бұрын
In really big Fights yes ,but there are many situations when your in smaller KD,s or Arc where you can do it
@user-hg1xl1eg4z
@user-hg1xl1eg4z 6 ай бұрын
Why is this old version
@user-hg1xl1eg4z
@user-hg1xl1eg4z 6 ай бұрын
I want to get the 3 million power I am 1 million power 855 k pls teach
@marcelshimosako4048
@marcelshimosako4048 6 ай бұрын
trajan + hermann can be a good pair?
@grahamlogsdon5731
@grahamlogsdon5731 6 ай бұрын
I am very interested in this combo. Would love to see that in testing.
@KNNY61
@KNNY61 6 ай бұрын
This interests me as well.
@jn-mci6981
@jn-mci6981 6 ай бұрын
How do I get Hermann Prime?
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 6 ай бұрын
Wheel of fortune, once you're in the end game.
@Hydrobladegiyuu
@Hydrobladegiyuu 6 ай бұрын
dude that edit on revelate's profile pic for the smile is so funny and also distracting 😅
@JR_717
@JR_717 6 ай бұрын
without tomy i dont think hermann p will be good i think i will stick with boudica/zl
@warfro8662
@warfro8662 6 ай бұрын
I'm not really a fan of these kind of reports. Their guys are all over the place. No museum, not maxed, one has justice and other has city skin. He says everything evens out but it makes me doubt it. Would be interested to see testing from actually equal testing. Edit: Although i do think Hermann is actually better without Tomy. Pairing him with ZL who capitalizes on the AoE poison with more AoE synergy just makes sense.
@ChmieluGD
@ChmieluGD 6 ай бұрын
classic vid by cheesenub
@Jkwolfman1
@Jkwolfman1 6 ай бұрын
ZL Herman Prime and Boudica Ashur seems better to me
@ronaldlambert2888
@ronaldlambert2888 6 ай бұрын
Feeble attempt to justify his ridiculous call that Hermann/Tomy would be meta
@KNNY61
@KNNY61 6 ай бұрын
In 5v5 on up it might be. As a single march, no.
@ferisadi2418
@ferisadi2418 6 ай бұрын
Ok. I actually use Herman tommy in last war. Here are my conclusions: 1. When my 5 marches lock on a target. I reach 12-15 poison stacks before tommy clears them. 2.1 The poison makes it that when skills pop off target take 36-45% more skill damage 2.2 Almost any target I lock on dies within one cycle. So it doesn’t matter that tommy clears poison off that target. 3. Tommy only clears poison off locked target. On other marches poison still builds up 4. In a real war situation every +-15 turns u cast extra free skill. I absolutely LOVE this combination. For swarming flags, swarming rallies, murder balls. Etc. If you chisgule really wanna learn about how strong this combo is… have 2 players run almost same marches with same kill order. Player 1: Guan scipio, Nevsky Joan, zhuge hermann, Boudi Arte, Nebu YSG. Player 2: Guan scipio, boudi Zhuge, Nebu YSG, Hermann tommy. Kill order: Guan, Nevsky, Nebu, boudi zhuge / Zhuge hermann, boudi Arte / Hermann tommy. 😊😊
@shphu
@shphu 6 ай бұрын
guys, we’re overthinking it! If you don’t put a horn on Hermann Tomyris but put horn or feral nature on your other marches, the target would be red or dead by the time Tomy uses her skill. It doesn’t matter if she clears poison on that target. 😅
@TJMiton
@TJMiton 6 ай бұрын
yeah not how it works
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 6 ай бұрын
the OP is very very wrong. LOL. Put a horn and a drum to get Herman to fire his skill asap, which means tommy fires her skill asap. LOL. this op knows nothing of this game. sigh.@@TJMiton
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 6 ай бұрын
you are under thinking and no thinking at all. 100% wrong. sigh.
@hannesmsn
@hannesmsn 6 ай бұрын
Running tommy in the murderball is just selfish
@gk4578
@gk4578 6 ай бұрын
Nope , running pakal or atilla march is selfish
@ngocquoc2828
@ngocquoc2828 6 ай бұрын
I think bad..losing 20% aoe skill dmg and too much squishy
@rolandlacsi7001
@rolandlacsi7001 6 ай бұрын
The truth is you too really ate not sure of what your saying,,because on your previous video you said they will never work together,,c'mon bro nxt Time make intensive research first before releasing videos of what you think is right so you won't end up eating your on words,,or maybe you don't care about anything else besides content views 🤔🤔🤔
@Chisgule
@Chisgule 6 ай бұрын
Could you point to when I said they would not work together? I said multiple times Hermann would elevate Tomy in multiple videos.
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