Choosing a VR headset just got a lot harder

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BonelessVR

BonelessVR

9 ай бұрын

Varjo dropped a bombshell that is going to shake up the industry. Good luck.
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@TheGravelcrusher
@TheGravelcrusher 9 ай бұрын
I do not live in mormon land >:(
@xFifty1337
@xFifty1337 9 ай бұрын
No, you live in the land of freedom and not so free health-care, YEEHAW!
@Nohkral
@Nohkral 9 ай бұрын
I live in mormon land. Slc
@VIRTUAL_POLICE
@VIRTUAL_POLICE 9 ай бұрын
lol@@xFifty1337
@LolitaConvention
@LolitaConvention 9 ай бұрын
I live in mormon land too :(( box elder
@spudtree
@spudtree 9 ай бұрын
Fringe mormon country, Iron County
@MichaelKoopa
@MichaelKoopa 9 ай бұрын
I bought a varjo aero and now my wife is going to kill me
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
AYO FIRST ONE TO GET IT
@wasvreta
@wasvreta 9 ай бұрын
worth
@litay5
@litay5 9 ай бұрын
Someone gonna sleep on the couch tonight!
@Joric78
@Joric78 9 ай бұрын
Did you already have the base stations and controllers?
@wforwumbo9665
@wforwumbo9665 9 ай бұрын
i just preordered the big screen beyond
@dharkbizkit
@dharkbizkit 8 ай бұрын
my problem over the years with the headsets was always: they are like a skilltree. you have 7 talents to choose from, and each talent has 10 points to max out, but you only have 30 points to spend on all the 7 trees. so there is no perfect build. but then there comes a headset, that can spend 34 in its trees, improves in one talent compared to others very much, yet is still mediocre at all the others, but its on a 400 buck premium because of that.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
I need my golden goose headset haha
@dharkbizkit
@dharkbizkit 8 ай бұрын
wouldnt call it a goldon goose. its like complaining about lcd monitors in 2002 not beeing as good as the ones we have today. no monitor today is a golden goose, but even cheap ones are 5x better in everything, compared to 500dollar displays from 2002 @@BonelessVR
@jaxondabac8808
@jaxondabac8808 5 ай бұрын
like the 8K headset 💀
@timcates4261
@timcates4261 9 ай бұрын
as someone whos interested in getting into vr your simulated views were a great way to feel the difference. Thanks a TON for doing that
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful! Thank you!
@Larxy_
@Larxy_ 9 ай бұрын
the fact that this video is getting very decent views shows how much potential this channel has broski, keep going
@VREmirate
@VREmirate 9 ай бұрын
Thumbnails are important, the one for this video is pretty funny 👍
@Xalphire
@Xalphire 9 ай бұрын
SIMULATED POV! GENIUS! For real, why don't those other VR reviewers show us what it REALLY looks like like you did? THANK YOU!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
AYE I always get annoyed with through the lens footage because it's never accurate. I figured it would be helpful! It sucks that I couldn't get the Aero simulated well but people would have to be watching on some crazy high res monitors to really get an idea of the clarity.
@bryanparks6958
@bryanparks6958 9 ай бұрын
Loving the amazing content. Thank you for taking the time for these reviews and explaining some of the more technical aspects for headsets.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Wish I could've gone more in depth but I didn't want to end up with a 30 minute long video haha. Maybe soon I'll do a video talking just about VR myths and basic setup tips to help people get a long. Got too many people who always ask questions, I really wish all of this stuff was easier to use for everyone!
@AperturePsychologyIncorporated
@AperturePsychologyIncorporated 9 ай бұрын
Congrats for the sponsorship! I'm really happy for ya! Great video once again, I really really appreciate your honesty when reviewing this stuff despite the sponsorship 😆👍
@AperturePsychologyIncorporated
@AperturePsychologyIncorporated 9 ай бұрын
Oh and also- maybe it's just me, but this is the first time I've seen your IRL face, and you _Somehow_ looks/feels *A LOT* like your VR Chat Avatar, I can't put my finger on it but in terms of the vibes and the overall aura it really do feels like I'm looking at the same person whenever you switch the POV, and I can't say this to every VR youtubers out there, so that's definitely interesting Haha (⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠) (for example ThrillSeeker is also one of the VR content creators that have the same overall vibe between IRL and his female avatar)
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Thrills avatar is so sick. I'm glad my vibes match ahah. I had someone in a previous video accuse me of 'hopping on the cute train' to try and get views or smth. My brother in christ, I use the avatar because It's funny and photoscanning myself into VRC would be so cursed lmao I appreciate your support, thank you for watching homie
@MagmaProductionsYT
@MagmaProductionsYT 9 ай бұрын
YOOO THAT'S AWESOME THAT YOU GOT A SPONSORSHIP! CONGRATZ! This was a very solid review, bruh. Complete transparency and honesty on your end! This headset sounds like it's a pretty good starter headset for PCVR users! 😎
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
So good that I will be giving it away because I have too god damn many headsets haha I really love using it, I don't want to give it away but why do I need it when I have an Aero and a Quest 2 and A pro 2 and blah blah It's definitely a solid choice, and a note on the $550 MSRP, they usually have deals that run it down to $470ish. Still think it's worth saving the money and getting a lightly used Quest 2 with a new facial interface and a nice cleaning
@ywjsiabvue
@ywjsiabvue 9 ай бұрын
I bought a varjo aero and now my knee has an arrow because of my wife
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
wife has arrow in knee, instructions unclear
@StormyDoesVR
@StormyDoesVR 9 ай бұрын
Boneless: DPVR has no play Also Boneless: Immediately flips the hinge 90 degrees XD great video man, keep up the good work!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Ahah thank you for watching homie
@ITS_N00DLZ
@ITS_N00DLZ 8 ай бұрын
thank you, i would've never knew that the varjo price went down without you
@Dolan-F
@Dolan-F 9 ай бұрын
Thank you a lot for helping choose my headset, I've been struggling with all of the overwhelming choices but the E4 looks like it's the one for me, so thanks a bunch!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Might wanna get your hands on a Quest 3 homie :3 The only reason I didn't cover it in this video was because there weren't any confirmations direct from meta about it but I'm fighting the urge to not buy one haha
@Dolan-F
@Dolan-F 9 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVR Oh okay! I had no clue that it was coming out so soon, thank you! ^^
@Dolan-F
@Dolan-F 9 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVR Sorry but I forgot to ask, do you think the elite strap is a worthy purchase? :>
@AlbireoIdoneus
@AlbireoIdoneus 9 ай бұрын
On paper it would. For elite + battery, Personally i'm gonna wait first till I try the headset and see afterwards. Thirdparty accessories will come out sooner than later and they'll be cheaper so that's another thing to consider
@Dolan-F
@Dolan-F 9 ай бұрын
@@AlbireoIdoneus Oh okay, thank you!
@tenshik3769
@tenshik3769 9 ай бұрын
Congrats on the sponsor!!! :3 I am holding out against hope (read: severe copium) that the Deckard has SLAM tracking, pancake lenses, wide FOV compared to the Quest 2 (my current headset) and is even half way to the size of a Bigscreen Beyond! I really dont want to get in to the Lighthouse ecosystem (in fact my partner has straight up said they don't want me to) because we rent together in shared accommodation with other people so very little space to ourselves and our bedroom is shared living space between the two of us and also my VR space which is honestly not ideal. I sleep pretty often in VRC because of having friends on the other side of the world so super late night movie sessions where I fall asleep (I am ahead of most of them in timezone) and then get a 'good morning sleepy head' are pretty common and that is why the Beyond would be my ideal headset apart from the FOV and it needing base stations (and then base station tracked controllers..). So size and comfort for sleep are another huge consideration for me but the lack of SLAM/inside out tracking is a huge killer for me. I really want to upgrade my headset. My Quest 2 has been amazing for the price. But being an almost daily VRC user with FBT and needing comfort.. I can see all the flaws with it for my use case and I have just... outgrown it as a VRC degen now and need something more to my needs but currently there isnt anything for me. I am super excited to see what comes out this year. Great video as usual!!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
YOOOOOOOOO deckard is going to be insane. Idk if It can possibly manage to be the size of a Beyond but Valve is known to pull some crazy stuff. Deckard is pretty much confirmed right now to be standalone capable with internal tracking based on datamines, hopefully with the option for lighthouse but I can't find any confirmation on that. If you're a VRC sleeper, have you tried out OyasumiVR yet? It's a plugin that gives you a bunch of features in VRC (not violating EAC) to make sleeping more comfortable, give it a try! I will be this weekend! Quest 2 is still such a solid choice but I could see easily getting tired of it at this point. I do have a friend who uses a quest pro with Haritora, after modifying the settings for the Haritora, he has managed to get such accurate tracking that I couldn't tell it wasn't base stations. Worth looking into!
@tenshik3769
@tenshik3769 9 ай бұрын
Well that is so good to hear, I had somehow missed all of that info as I stopped seeing Deckard content on my recommended videos lol. But if it IS at least standalone tracked and then pancakes and just smaller than my Quest 2 (Bigscreen have really set the bar for what is possible with a PCVR headset) then I think that is definitely something I am interested in! Thank you for the info on OyasumiVR tho! I actually had not heard of this before so will definitely look in to it! I have followed Haritora on and off for a while but once I settled on SlimeVR I think I just went all in down the rabbithole there and have been loving how much it has changed since I started using my DIY trackers! I might go check out how much it has changed!@@BonelessVR​
@juanfran3924
@juanfran3924 9 ай бұрын
That E4 reminds me of the Lenovo Explorer, my first headset, it was inside out, wired to PC, very light and you could flip it up too. Very comfortable and it was 150€ on the black friday I bought it.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
That's a helluva deal
@alexmipego
@alexmipego 9 ай бұрын
I'm excited to see the Visor one. I'm tempted to pre-order, but I'll likely wait for reviews… but it feels like the next couple years will be really big.
@RingletsJesus
@RingletsJesus 9 ай бұрын
Giggling-inducing commentary, with a solid VR understanding. You just got a subscriber. I'm an old Vive bro, B&S Star wars, and Boneworks Spiderman - I live where youuur buddys at. Mormon Land, tho alot of them are drinking these days. WE GOT NERDS IN THE MOUNTAINS!!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
GOD DANG MAMANS Glad to see another OG Vive Gigachad, even though it's showing it's age I still get the same joy looking at it as they day I bought it, before vrchat completely fucked my understanding of reality lmao
@RingletsJesus
@RingletsJesus 9 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVR it was and is a champ. Sold my vive to my buddy few years back. Been rockin the rift S with its 0 patches and support it got. Having a hard time being patient for Project Deckard or deciding on another good hmd.
@8MOG
@8MOG 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video, Was debating on purchasing the DPVR Headset.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
I can barely stop myself from getting a Quest 3 haha
@trioxygenx9065
@trioxygenx9065 9 ай бұрын
Dude that's some impressive content wtfff
@richiercflyer
@richiercflyer 9 ай бұрын
Impressive content Sir!
@Itsallgoodtogo
@Itsallgoodtogo 9 ай бұрын
This was a nice quality review. I know USA doesn't have such an easy access to the pico4 headset but I think this is still the best bang for your buck in regards to PCVR.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Oh thank god, not another "why didn't you include Pico" comment. Everyone in my community who has a Pico 4 or Pico 4 Pro absolutely loves them. I'm so tempted to get one
@N1DC
@N1DC 9 ай бұрын
Great Vid as always ;D
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much hehe
@el0menati305
@el0menati305 7 ай бұрын
Very cool video, i love your humour. You get a like and sub :D
@Dobby7588
@Dobby7588 6 ай бұрын
those NAILS
@darkfrostbite4628
@darkfrostbite4628 6 ай бұрын
6:20 That headset makes you look Like You were part of Daft Punk and i love it 😂
@HoshPak
@HoshPak 9 ай бұрын
About 2 years from now, Meta will likely have a Quest Pro 2 available. And since Virtual Desktop just announced their newest beta added face tracking and AV1 10-Bit encoding it will be a darn attractive headset. Definitely going to save up to buy it.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
It's worth the wait, even for the Quest 3. I didn't want to get into speculation in the video but I'm free to do it in the comments so: Save your money and wait because shit is about to get wild
@xlrbossshorts
@xlrbossshorts 9 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVRI had a friend who said the same thing for 5 years now, "save your money and wait". I'm done waiting!
@Iamdudeman12
@Iamdudeman12 9 ай бұрын
​@@xlrbossshortsquest 3 comes out October 10 come on now
@EFSpartan
@EFSpartan 8 ай бұрын
​@xlrbossshorts I bought bearly all early headsets since dk2 got burned out, now grabbing quest 3 after skipping stuff since rift s. Waiting for the shipment to show up...hopefully it was worth it
@Its_A_Gundam
@Its_A_Gundam 9 ай бұрын
I saw the DPVR, on Amazon and was curious about it. Definitely seems like a solid headset.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
It's solid but before you go and buy one, there are deals all the time cutting like $100 off msrp. Still think it's a tough call with the Quest 3 on the horizon and In a market where a barely used (open box) quest 2 can cost $150
@Im4gineD4t
@Im4gineD4t 9 ай бұрын
Honestly enjoyed the review of the sponsor. Usually really critical of youtubers and the bias around sponsor products when making lists like this but the balance of pros and cons made me feel like you take the reviewer side of it seriously- great vid man good job!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate it! The next video I have planned is an honest opinion on the Aero. There's just a lot of things that I feel Varjo get's cut a lot of slack for, like how the head strap likes to rip out hair sometimes and now two people in my circle bought them new and they both had very different but very annoying issues setting them up. I'm always open to pointers and critiques. Imma keep the honesty coming! When DPVR originally sent me their request, I showed everyone in the VC their emails and promo material, I honestly though the thing was going to be a piece of hot Chinese garbage. Like I almost didn't even want to participate. But it was a pleasant surprise with how nice everything felt with it. It's a shame that the Quest 3 is going to set a new standard for that entire price range, this headset would've been a decent deal in a world without $1000 Aero's and the Quest 3 being such a great deal
@Im4gineD4t
@Im4gineD4t 9 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVR I was looking into the aero recently so I will absolutely watch it! And once again love the honesty. I was surprised by the DPVR headset and how well it kept up with the rest of them. Honestly the flip up ability it has is such a little thing but I feel like that’s so useful. Kinda something id like to see other headsets give some props to, even with the push for passthrough😅 Excited to see your future videos bro I’ll absolutely keep up!
@sg_gaming786_springsilverfox
@sg_gaming786_springsilverfox 9 ай бұрын
Im new to this vr stuff, and planning to get the quest 3 as my first vr headset. And waited out after release to see reviews for it
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
That is a super safe bet, really excited to see what Meta announces at Connect in just a few days!
@OSAlula
@OSAlula 8 ай бұрын
I recently pre-ordered the Beyond and I'm really looking forward to it. Was a toss-up between that, and the Aero, but I decided on the Beyond because of comfort (Index hurts my head, too heavy and bulky), and the built in mic (which is extremely good!). I've heard basically everyone rave about it and though it obviously has downsides, as every headset does, the benefits of the comfortability far outweighs it for most it seems.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
Very happy to hear from people who have the Beyond! It's an exciting headset but dang the market is catching up quick!
@OSAlula
@OSAlula 8 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVR Also I really like your videos! Recently discovered you and you kept popping up in my recommended, I like the topics you cover, definitely will subscribe and keep an eye out for future uploads! Hope you get some traction to on this platform, you deserve it
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
Thank you homie! I'll always do my best, thank you for the subscription!
@PvtPartzz
@PvtPartzz 7 ай бұрын
LOL. When you flipped the headset up and it broke her neck.
@TakumiJoyconBoyz
@TakumiJoyconBoyz 9 ай бұрын
As someone who uses the Vive Pro, I agree with the need for flip up being on more headsets. That being said, I'm likely getting a bigscreen beyond at some point which makes stuff like that much less of an issue in the first place.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I wish I got a Pro instead of a Pro 2. I've noticed people are generally so much happier with the Original Pro.
@uhcarlosg7424
@uhcarlosg7424 9 ай бұрын
Pro tip: it’s a lot easier to choose when you’re broke
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Facts. Quest 2 slaps, Vive slaps, the best VR headset to get is the one that you can afford. I'll never be someone who pricewalls VR, giving away a headset every chance I get. More details soon.
@MrCoalmin
@MrCoalmin 7 ай бұрын
dpvr looks perfect for me!
@whitehorsept
@whitehorsept 9 ай бұрын
That headset that got sponsored to you, really reminds me of the Dell Visor (I own one).
@Mikuso27
@Mikuso27 5 ай бұрын
All this year I only wanted an OLED screen insideout vr headset just like quest 1 but with newer tech/harware 😭
@lunaloyalist7144
@lunaloyalist7144 9 ай бұрын
As a proud Vive Eye Pro owner I'll say I shouldn't've payed what I did and I've yet to get eye tracking to work properly. I blame the model I use. Do I regret buying a full body kit? No. Is it worth the money I spent? No. I don't use it nearly enough. Would I do the months of saving again? Yes. And I guess I'll just throw this on the end, in an edit. You did ask. I bought a Varjo Aero and now my wife is going to kill me.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I have such a love hate relationship with Vive at this point haha Vive pro 2 was such a down turn moment for them and I hate to say it Thank you for watching and I hope to see you around more!
@AntonnyCardo
@AntonnyCardo 6 ай бұрын
Nice to see that Sabertooth also likes vr
@Larxy_
@Larxy_ 9 ай бұрын
im getting an index soon and i hope that valve releases the deckard 1 day after i ordered it
@acakeshapedlikeatrainonatable
@acakeshapedlikeatrainonatable 9 ай бұрын
noooo its gonna release on Wednesday
@Larxy_
@Larxy_ 9 ай бұрын
csgo is releasing today not the deckard@@acakeshapedlikeatrainonatable
@Axel-wo6qu
@Axel-wo6qu 9 ай бұрын
I have a quest 2 because my computer doesn't have a great gpu, and it feels like a lot of work to upgrade it on top of getting a new headset. I don't think I'll easily change to a different one because I don't want to repurchase software I bought from the quest store, on top of the upgrade and the headset itself.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Quest 3 is shaping up to be a great upgrade even without changing your PC hardware. Quest 2, even with all of the options I have for other headsets, I will always love using. It's just so solid.
@Axel-wo6qu
@Axel-wo6qu 9 ай бұрын
@BonelessVR I'm excited for quest 3. Not only is it quite the upgrade, but I can lend my quest 2 to my family and watch movies on apps like BigScreen as if we still live in the same house.
@mcasias33
@mcasias33 9 ай бұрын
I want the Zevo Toys HMD that Joan Cusack used to go white water rafting.
@cyanoure
@cyanoure 9 ай бұрын
on Quest 2 you can adjust your IPD to any position between those 3 options and it works
@mrdummy_nl
@mrdummy_nl 9 ай бұрын
But limited and they are steps, not smooth adjust. This is sometimes problem for people with more wider or smaller eyes distance.
@matthewcontreras6277
@matthewcontreras6277 9 ай бұрын
Awesome 👍🏼👍🏼
@fuze3522
@fuze3522 6 ай бұрын
I must be crazy, i have an original quest 2 from november of 2020, i havent touched a single thing on it. Yes it still has the pre recall faceplate thingy, used to be a bit irritating but i've used it for so long i think my skin oils have made it softer. The headband isnt the best and needs adjusment every now and then.. my lenses are a bit scratched because the glasses spacer isnt big enough, the battery lasts about 45 minutes now on a full charge (have to use a 10,000mah battery pack in my pocket to make it playable for extended periods of time..) and my left stick wants to send me to the moon every time it gets powered on. Best purchase ive ever made 10/10 product.
@StaticMelon00
@StaticMelon00 9 ай бұрын
DPVR looking fine rn
@alphashot3910
@alphashot3910 5 ай бұрын
im doing a pc build in a month or 2 with vr in mind. should i go with nvidia and would a 4070 be enough for any vr game?
@SolarDaisy
@SolarDaisy 8 ай бұрын
Ive ordered a quest 3, im super exited, and my family is when i eventually trust them enough
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
AYE! Let me know what you think about it!
@Elriuhilu
@Elriuhilu 7 ай бұрын
I've only had the opportunity to try proper VR headsets (i.e. not holders for your phone) twice. The first time was in the early nineties when you could go to an arcade and play that VR shooter in which eventually a pterodactyl would swoop down and carry you off, and that was incredible despite having only like four polygons for the whole game. The second time was when the HTC Vive first came out and you could demo it at Microsoft stores. I played a game in which you have a cartoony castle and have to defend it with a bow and arrows against paper cutout men. It was a life-changing experience. Despite being cartoony, it felt like I was really there. I could even aim my bow for real because it was three dimensional like a physical object in real life. Imagine a game in which you visit your favourite city as it was a century ago and it feels like you're really there. Or how about a game that shows you what it's like to be able to fly? That twenty minute demo completely blew my mind and I still fondly tell people about it ten years later. I have not had a chance to use a VR headset since then because they are really expensive and there are no places you can go to try one out or rent it. I long for the opportunity to get a headset of my own and now that they've become significantly better than a Vive, which already felt real and affected me deeply, I can only imagine how incredible the experience must be.
@IgorUsePro1347
@IgorUsePro1347 9 ай бұрын
The fuck you mean the Aero is now 1k$, that's insane
@mryllo
@mryllo 9 ай бұрын
I do love to get the varia enterprise xr2 if only i was able to have it without their mandatory subscription was so awesome to test at a tech event
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I would love to try one of their XR headsets!
@gistudios4281
@gistudios4281 3 ай бұрын
I just want entry budget vr for games, nothing more. What should i get?
@EnzoBergstrom
@EnzoBergstrom 9 ай бұрын
Have you tried using a good link cable on the quest headsets and change bitrate in oculus debug tool to 960mbps and use h264?
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I use a Kuject cable, have modified settings, but it was important in this video to talk about the out of box experience rather than trying to help competitors along. I could've changed settings to make the E4's colors better, make the sound better, etc, but I'd prefer out of the box experiences rather than 'hey if you put extra time into this it'll be better.' Still though, changing stuff in the debug menu is worth it. Massive, massive difference. On the rare occasion that I use the Quest 2, I do use modified settings, but again, out of the box experience is what's important here
@EnzoBergstrom
@EnzoBergstrom 9 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVR Absolutely, that makes sense.
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 9 ай бұрын
Varjo Aero is still extremely expensive considering the fact that you still need to buy about $1000 worth of base stations and controllers. So no, it didn't really get harder. Pico 5's specs have been leaked. If true and if the screens have some nice contrast this time around, this will probably end up being the main choice for PC VR in general.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I don't think Varjos target audience is people who are brand new to VR. The people buying them likely already have index controllers and base stations. If buying brand new, it would come out to around $1650 total for an Aero, 2 2.0 basestations, and a pair of index controllers. I am so excited for newest Picos! I cant wait to see what the Pico 5 Max or whatever the heck is!
@Dratio
@Dratio 9 ай бұрын
What if you had to choose between fresnel and display port vs pancake and usb with better resolution? Quest 3 looks to have the best lenses and res for it's price range. Yet it has no DP and it sounds like people really hate compression over usb/wifi.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Soooo I was going to cover the Quest 3 a bit but the most important thing has yet to be confirmed. There's a chance that they are going to be using a new form of compression, but I really don't like to venture into speculation in videos too much. Even if it doesn't use a better compression technique, the Quest 3 will be a great choice for the price. Those lenses are super nice.
@piratehunter1
@piratehunter1 2 ай бұрын
I have a 4070 ti and a rift s atm. I don't give a crap about having a meta account as i already use facebook. should i wait for the quest 3 lite or is there a good alternative to it that doesnt use bay stations?
@TheXev
@TheXev 9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for talking about the Varjo Aero not supporting AMD cards. It's a stupid artificial roadblock that Varjo added because they're too lazy to use anything but CUDA for their upscaling. It's important to note this because this is an Varjo issue and not an AMD issue. Varjo could probably port their code to ROCm pretty easily, but they likely do not care.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Future video deep diving into the Aero and more specifically the lack of updates from the dev team inbound I can't tell if they don't push updates because they do a ton of testing or because they are lazy but at the end of the day we end up not getting and updates. Foveated rendering on VRChat and many other games also require a community patch that uses Pimax's libraries out of all things lmao There is a patch to fix the red shift/chromatic aberration that allows you to tweak a setting, it's been out for a while but Varjo just won't add it directly into Varjo Base so that you can just use a slider to fix the issue with red shift Just some really goofy things that maybe Varjo is getting too much slack for
@mephistoginger212
@mephistoginger212 9 ай бұрын
I'm rocking the pico 4 pro at the moment, it's lit
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
ughhhhhhhhh join the discord please and send photos of it. I want one so bad but it doesn't make sense for me to buy one haha
@nickdoespcs
@nickdoespcs 9 ай бұрын
Wake up new boneless vid
@Tucanae
@Tucanae 6 ай бұрын
I have the vive cosmos elite, and for 800$ for 2 stations, 2 controllers, and a headset with the flip up feature. For a first headset, its been great, only complaint is software, and there has been a few times where the cable has been fucky. If other companies are going to do flip up headsets, they are going to need to move the main headset connector to the strap, so when you flip it up, it doesn’t put strain on the connection of their 80$ cable to your 500$ vr headset.
@Shadowclaw1113
@Shadowclaw1113 8 ай бұрын
Hi, so having a AMD GPU and CPU, what headset would you recommend for PCVR? I'm using the Pico 4 right now but feels like it is not as clear as advertised or other people say it is. I've tried all sorts of troubleshooting but gameplay always seems alot blurrier than the sharp and crisp UI elements of the native Pico apps.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
Have you experimented with changing any of the compression settings? It'll never be as crisp, but it can be better!
@xander8415
@xander8415 9 ай бұрын
Damn, this video has nice timing, posted 4 days ago, just when im looking for vr headset for my pc that i just got, bruh i will probably eat water soup made of WATER for next month, again 😂...
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I'm fighting the urge to not get a quest 3 lmao, too many great headsets coming to the market
@Zenkono
@Zenkono 9 ай бұрын
quest 2 and 3 are great for people who don't want to buy a vr computer or just play simple games on a laptop or are in school and cant afford a headset and a PC to run the headset because the quest 2 and 3 are standalone its perfect for new vr players and can be used with a PC later on anyways with virtual desktop or the built in method
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
Quest 2 and 3 are my biggest recommendations right now. Quest 2's are so so so cheap barely used these days and the Quest 3 is just such a great improvement
@adrivand7130
@adrivand7130 6 ай бұрын
im still on my htc vive and have absolutely no idea which one to upgrade to
@JaxTheNeko
@JaxTheNeko 6 ай бұрын
so if all i want to do is play beat saber and vrchat at the best way possible what do you recommend?
@Larxy_
@Larxy_ 9 ай бұрын
bro there is no way u wanted to benchmark the vr headset on kanojo vr 💀(thevrhubs second channel)
@mymrmelon3503
@mymrmelon3503 7 ай бұрын
Ya'll why does this man have 51k subs, stunningly high quality productions... and only 6.52k subs???
@jimmydesouza4375
@jimmydesouza4375 6 ай бұрын
Goddamn, I JUST bought a Quest 3, never expecting Varjo to just slash the price in half. Wish youtube had recommended this to me about 4 hours ago.
@goldstinger325
@goldstinger325 9 ай бұрын
It was nearly impossible for me to keep track of which one you were talking about with so many new names, it would really help to have a name written over the video while talking about each different headset to help drive in which is which
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Will keep that in mind for the future! I appreciate it!
@mvshenhon8966
@mvshenhon8966 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. As someone new to this field and trying to get into it. I'm still rewatching this to figure out which they're talking about at times when I stop spacing out on the info. 😂
@BigislandEJ
@BigislandEJ 9 ай бұрын
My fancy is definitely tickled
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
TICKLE TICKLE
@aexyzk
@aexyzk 9 ай бұрын
i have a rift s right now (before that i had a q1 then q2 but compression was awful), the e4 looks very interesting. idrk if it would be an upgrade or not, would definity be nice to get away from the oculus software lol. anyways, great video!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
E4 got killed by Quest 3 ahah, hopefully there is improvements with the Quest 3 in terms of software. I know better compression is happening for sure but it may be limited to only very recent gpu's
@xanZion1
@xanZion1 9 ай бұрын
Valve Index has been great.
@DrunkAncestor
@DrunkAncestor 9 ай бұрын
I must be cursed with good eyesight, I can count pixels in the screen door of the quest pro
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
My prescription is a few years old haha. Maybe I'm used to screendoor being like looking through an actual screen door like on the og Vive
@Wooskii1
@Wooskii1 9 ай бұрын
Ok, I'm really considering getting the Areo now, but is there anything I should watch out for? How much will Knucks and stations cost me? Can I buy them new (with a warranty) or are they expensive disposable items? Do I need to buy the whole Index kit anyway? If so, maybe I'll just get the Index and upgrade later... This is gonna hurt 😭
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Actually the entirety of the next video is about getting an Aero and things you need to know, but here's some spoilers. You can buy them new with warranty, everything I've heard about Varjo's customer support has been great. Cost of Aero, knucks, and base stations would come out to around $1600ish US. This headset is based on the same tech that Varjo's enterprise focused XR3 and that's trusted by militaries across Europe to train pilots, as well as private instruction organizations, so I have reason to believe that it's pretty bulletproof!
@AlexDenton0451
@AlexDenton0451 8 ай бұрын
"If none of these headsets tickle your fancy it might be best to wait" Problem is I like almost all of them but don't wanna buy an Aero just to have the Valve Deckard or whatever come out a few months later for preorder lol. I'll probably look into getting a base station tracked rig soon, I have a Quest 2 and it's definitely not my fav due to clarity being ehhhhh
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
I 100% expect the Aero to age very quickly and poorly within the next year or two
@joeblowme
@joeblowme 6 ай бұрын
ive been wanting a flip mount on the quest forever
@LolitaConvention
@LolitaConvention 9 ай бұрын
you should give the vive cosmos (with the external tracking face plate) a look! its currently my daily driver headset, and I adore it! It has the "flip up" feature that the other headset you liked has. I'm currently modding the living shit out of it so, wish me luck!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
I have a few friends who use Cosmos Elites! Would give them a look for myself but not really in the market because the Aero was a sizable investment haha OHOHOH and please please tell me what mods you plan on doing!
@JohnnyBlayze
@JohnnyBlayze 8 ай бұрын
I got the Big screen beyond and excited more than anything for that,also whats the VRC world at 2:23?
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 8 ай бұрын
Super excited to see the beyond! World is あの日の静かな夜 -With a beautiful starry sky-
@barnious9626
@barnious9626 9 ай бұрын
How do these all compare to the index? Is it still viable?
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
In terms of raw specs, I think every headset I showed is higher res than the index. Index still has higher fov and refresh rate than most headsets out there, depends on the type of person you are but I don't mind a little drop in fov for a ridiculous amount of clarity. Hell I still love the Quest 2 and I've been PCVR since day 1 haha Only issue with Meta is you just know you're being datamined
@freshsodabeats
@freshsodabeats 8 ай бұрын
Hey, can you please tell me what racing game you are playing in this video? It has Gran Turismo ADs in it, but arent you running it on PC?
@kylepop7912
@kylepop7912 9 ай бұрын
clip those grippers!
@Airbender131090
@Airbender131090 9 ай бұрын
PLEASE tell me if Varjo Aero has screendoor efect? People used to tell me Reveb G2 doesnt. I got one and it does! It is pixelated screen!! Does AERO realy has no screendoor or doest it have one?!
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely zero screendoor effect on Aero, the raw resolution of the screens is absolutely insane even compared to the beyond.
@Miathestupid
@Miathestupid 5 ай бұрын
can the dpe4 mix with vive tracking..? how does that work??
@aresunfunny6920
@aresunfunny6920 9 ай бұрын
another great video les goooo
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
LESS GO
@aresunfunny6920
@aresunfunny6920 9 ай бұрын
@@BonelessVR honestly insane how you interact with your community so much, my respect for you is ginormous!
@nervouskoala8876
@nervouskoala8876 9 ай бұрын
my vive controllers recently broke twice. I should however mention that I HAVE bludgeoned multiple walls in my house to death
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
What unmanageable power do you have that you are capable of killing a Vive Wand? You're making me scared
@grit30
@grit30 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if it’s worth it because my pc is a potato
@Spidoc
@Spidoc 9 ай бұрын
standalone, quest. doesn’t matter what even if a pico headset releases with better specs, purely because of software
@Arkovic
@Arkovic 9 ай бұрын
great vid, just a little sad because Pico 4 wasn't mentioned and it's the one i'm looking forward the most.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Would've included it if I had one! Super tempting to get my hands on one! A few people in my discord community have them and absolutely love them!
@SJkopa
@SJkopa 9 ай бұрын
pico4 is garbage
@Arkovic
@Arkovic 9 ай бұрын
@@SJkopa as a standalone, maybe. for PCVR which is my case, absolutely not.
@blackwoof9520
@blackwoof9520 9 ай бұрын
a heavy uesd quest2 controller will have a lot of drift, i had to spray the contact cleaner every month to clean it
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Truth. Most of the used Quest 2's I find around me are hardly used, still come with the box. Usually it's someone who get's a Quest 2 on a whim, decides VR isn't for them, and then they turn around and sell it for cheap. So many deals out there right now!
@LhunVideo
@LhunVideo 9 ай бұрын
The DPVR e4 is a fantastic stopgap for the missing windows mixed reality headsets. However, it should be less than a 128gb quest 2 at this point. If they dropped the price to $289 USD, I would probably buy three.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Correct. The market changed so fast with the price drop of the Aero and now the Quest 3 is around the corner about to set an entirely new standard for entry level VR.
@melpe__
@melpe__ 9 ай бұрын
would you say that a quest 3 is a good first headset?
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Quest 3 is going to set an entirely new standard. I'm jealous of the people who will be getting one as their first haha, they'll be spoiled
@sukurira703
@sukurira703 5 ай бұрын
do you own a valve index? thinking about buying it
@angwydud
@angwydud 7 ай бұрын
idk if you owned an index but im actually curious about why you didnt include it seeing as people say its still the best headset for the price (integration, displays, microphones, headphones, controllers, base stations)
@LooLooLand
@LooLooLand 9 ай бұрын
I like my rift s, its like the quest 2 but without compression and plus it just looks cool
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
UGHHHHH Oculus was so good, then the meta buy out. Quest 2 isn't bad, Quest 3 will be really nice, but god dang do I have a soft spot in my heart for the rift and rift s
@E.M.A
@E.M.A 9 ай бұрын
Is the valve index still a good buy in todays market im just kind of tired of my quest 2 but im not sure if i want to wait for the deckard or not
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Hmmmmmm with the Quest 3 launching so soon I would probably get one of those. If you want to be part of the base station ecosystem then you might want to look at a refurb index kit, just whatever you do don't pay MSRP for one, you should look at around $5-600 US
@dark147891
@dark147891 9 ай бұрын
I’m still using a oculus rift cv1 plays vr chat perfectly
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Absolute UNIT. Wish I owned a CV1 personally
@mymrmelon3503
@mymrmelon3503 7 ай бұрын
Hey quick tip! if you don't want to deal with compression on a quest 2 or 3 or any wireless lineup, try getting yourself a cheap 5g router, pluf it into a spare ethernet port on your computer, and DON'T plug it into the internet through a mode, run it as a wireless access point, or WAP as I liek to call it :) and then connect to it's wifi on your headset, the headset wont have internet but hopefully if you did it right your PC still should, it gets rid of so much compression!
@floorgang420
@floorgang420 9 ай бұрын
Joycon stick is good, you can easily replace it with hall effect.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Couldn't open up the controllers to confirm because this is a giveaway headset, but that thought did cross my mind
@nilliawafer5179
@nilliawafer5179 9 ай бұрын
so question, it being like it is, would this be a good travel headset. like if i want to visit a friend and hop on vrc. could i play it stand alone worse case senario?
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
Wait for the Quest 3, shaping up to be a powerhouse compared to the Quest 2 in standalone. E4 requires its own power plug and a fullsize displayport, so not ideal for that haha
@yourlilylee
@yourlilylee 9 ай бұрын
Ver NICEE
@retrodude9322
@retrodude9322 9 ай бұрын
„The flip-up feature is something i need to see more of” Bro, 4-5 WMR Headset used it in 2018 and earlier. It sure is nice, but after some time the hinge become so loose that the front part can’t stay on your face when crouching. It’s super annoying.
@BonelessVR
@BonelessVR 9 ай бұрын
True, hinges do wear over time and RIP WMR
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