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Chris Broussard Explains Why He Left Wilt Chamberlain Out of His Top 10 All-Time For Steph Curry

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@craigtidwell7492
@craigtidwell7492 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt would dominate in any era. Chris is a prisoner of the moment.
@dolobrolic6066
@dolobrolic6066 2 жыл бұрын
But he didn’t dominate his era……….Russell did……💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍💍……..😉
@merrickbeaufort8048
@merrickbeaufort8048 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Russel wouldn’t of dominated outside of his era though look at his stats with ten teams in his league.
@koraycill
@koraycill 2 жыл бұрын
@@dolobrolic6066 yeah full team hofs. Play with an allstar team even you could win. This is player comparison not team. And he had like 50 rebounds on Bill in one match as I remember or 30 but probably 50.
@NFKINGTY
@NFKINGTY 2 жыл бұрын
@@koraycill it don’t matter when u was so called the greatest y’all ppl try so hard to help him no he played with hofs too wth
@tubbymunchkin7254
@tubbymunchkin7254 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even dominate his own era and there were 10 teams in the league
@dantemackey7471
@dantemackey7471 2 жыл бұрын
Chris broussard needs to have this type of conversation with a older NBA player ....coach ...or analyst such as Phil Jackson or Bill Russell.. or Rick Barry... Not someone who was a NFL player or 50 years old.....but someone with understanding what Wilt Chamberlain meant to basketball and could give an honest answer of why he should be top 10 all time
@shyqyrimusta190
@shyqyrimusta190 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is chris himself had Wilt number 5 in his top 10 list a few years ago. How does one go from 5 to 11?
@MichaelSmith-wd5bi
@MichaelSmith-wd5bi 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt numbers dropped in the playoffs
@Millicente
@Millicente 2 жыл бұрын
@@shyqyrimusta190 the same way someone who liked apples the most 5 years ago like oranges more now. Rankings change based on how you think or feel changes, especially if it was a close race to begin with
@AMINOMMA
@AMINOMMA 2 жыл бұрын
​@@shyqyrimusta190 everyone in the top 10 except for the top four (and even there an argument can be made) is not separated by much at all. Being no. 10 means you might be as good as 6 imho, now there are so many guys I think you can make valid top 10 arguments for 1-12 so it becomes nitpicky. When looking at his career Wilt was not a player who generally led to winning, so I understand Broussard's point completely. Now anyone saying Wilt is top 10 can definitely make a valid argument, it becomes about what you value most. Personally, my top 15 is: MJ, Bron, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Steph, Shaq, Duncan, Russell, Wilt, Dream, KD, Giannis (who I think is going to be top 5), Dr. J. Now I think the first 12 all deserve to be top 10 but obviously this is impossible, so you'll get these discussions where all you can actually do is nitpick.
@scorpionJB
@scorpionJB 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why all these goat topics are becoming tired and toxic
@jjcarver80
@jjcarver80 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt was a monster on both ends. Steph would be the only player on the top ten list without any All-Defensive team placements. Dude has zero. What's the point in scoring 40 points if the person you're guarding is scoring 50? Such a weird argument to discount defense when every player knows its hard to be a two way player. Don't leave that part out of the argument.
@TellyGianoulis
@TellyGianoulis 2 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@lessondburn3971
@lessondburn3971 2 жыл бұрын
Chris is sad for taking Wilt out.. Wilt is by far the greatest athlete in the history of sports.... he’s top 10 off record alone.. not to mention steals and blocks weren’t even recorded back then.
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 2 жыл бұрын
🤡🤡
@terrencefields5265
@terrencefields5265 2 жыл бұрын
Chris I've watched you for years and I think you are the best on every show you appear on but brother you are 💯 percent wrong for taking Wilt out of your top 10🤬💯😎
@joshualevibrown1128
@joshualevibrown1128 2 жыл бұрын
I would take him out too. I actually never seen him play
@mchild80
@mchild80 2 жыл бұрын
So 1 question and a 2nd followup depending on your answer: 1. Is Steph in your top 10 ever? 2. Who's your other 9 and who did you kick out for Steph?
@andersonlee6190
@andersonlee6190 Жыл бұрын
The other Guy needs to stick to Football
@TheSwish_
@TheSwish_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt scored 61 percent of his points from midrange that’s facts and I have the evidence .. you dudes don’t realize you couldn’t play bully ball in that era or was offensive foul every time
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 2 жыл бұрын
For real. These folks don't do their research. They always compare wilt to Shaq but their games were way different. It was illegal to play bully ball back then. Shaq would foul out in the 1st quarter in those rules
@BluJae93
@BluJae93 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt underachieved. Players in the top 10 are just there for stats,talent and the potential they had. He only won to and let bill russell Willis reed bully him
@denomac1740
@denomac1740 2 жыл бұрын
sorry it was only 8 teams back then before the merger. no 3 point shot so of course every shot was mid range..... that was prehistoric times before the level of competition improved.
@shawnwilliam1802
@shawnwilliam1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@denomac1740 no 3 pointers and Wilt is STILL top 5 scorer. Steph is NOT greater than Wilt
@BluJae93
@BluJae93 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnwilliam1802 so we should rank the best players based on their regular season stats?
@thebigdipperarchive1007
@thebigdipperarchive1007 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Broussard focuses on Wilt's low scoring in the finals without bringing up how dominant of a rebounder and shot-blocker plus playmaker he was in those finals. Like, take for instance the 1972 finals. As here are Wilt's stat lines in those finals. GAME 1 12 PTS 19 REBS 0 BLKS GAME 2 23 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS GAME 3 26 PTS 20 REBS 9 BLKS GAME 4 12 PTS 24 REBS 12 BLKS GAME 5 24 PTS 29 REBS 4 ASTS 8 BLKS NBA FINALS AVERAGE 19.4 PTS 23.3 REBS 7.4 BLKS As for 1970, he had the only 20-20 .60.0 Finals in NBA history (a 23.2 ppg, 24.1 rpg, .62.5 seven-game series in the '70 Finals despite coming off a serious knee injury that caused him to miss over 70 games that season. While in the 1967 finals Wilt in the first two games of the 1967 Finals averaged: 13.0 PPG 35.5 RPG 10.0 APG 9.5 BPG And for the entire series he averaged 17.7 PPG (12.5 FGA) 28.5 RPG 6.8 APG 56% FG% 10 BPG Wilt’s 6.8 APG also stands as the record for highest APG by a Center in the Finals.
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 2 жыл бұрын
🎯... another sad thing is how they didn't track blocked shots Wilt's whole career. If they did I'm sure Shaq wouldn't try to mention Wilt as an afterthought when mentioning who the real greatest players are.
@milesaheadpodcast
@milesaheadpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
Still doesn’t matter if that cost him championships.
@jenkinsjamell
@jenkinsjamell 2 жыл бұрын
And that got him what? Only two chips playing against midgets and plumbers 🥱🥱
@Truthstter
@Truthstter 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenkinsjamell stop pushing a false narrative 😂 the average height has barely changed compared to today’s day
@mchild80
@mchild80 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt has the 2nd highest ppg in history behind MJ. MJ numbers got better in the finals. Wilts did not. James Harden is eaten alive for doing what Wilt was doing then. I completely understand Chris's take about Wilt, however I'm not taking him out of my top 10. The NBA record book is his so there's no way that I can reasonably take him out
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Rob was at the Warriors championship parade in a Steph Curry jersey 😭😭
@nav9867
@nav9867 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@bobomaigret5430
@bobomaigret5430 2 жыл бұрын
I love Bill Russell; he's one of my best friends. But, the greatest player I ever saw was Wilt Chamberlain. There's no question. -- Jerry West I scored 35 points a game for a season. You're asking me to score another 15? Nobody can do that! Look: Wilt averaged 50 points a game one year and 24 rebounds. So, to say anybody but Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest player of all time is just insane. -- Rick Barry Earl Monroe: Wilt Chamberlain would average 50 points a game today. Walt Frazier: No, 60.
@jaycespades8360
@jaycespades8360 2 жыл бұрын
Of course old heads would say that it’s called EGO smh… He’s not doing squat in this era other than getting exposed like all the other bigs. Steph single-handedly made all teams change the center position because elite guards are too fast and skilled for them to defend. When you’re too big in todays league you become a defensive liability and that’s not up for debate. You can dominate the paint all day but you’re only making 2’s while these shooters like Steph are hitting 3’s efficiently your team will lose. The league realized this and moved accordingly because small ball works when implemented right. Y’all arguments for these bigs in the top 10 are irrelevant in todays game. If they realized this earlier (Steph wasn’t born yet) the league would’ve changed a long time ago. GSW is always the smaller team and these bigger teams always have trouble with them, why do you think that is? Old heads are delusional but also love their eras and I can’t be mad at that. People tend to say whatever era was their personal best years are the best overall and whatever happened during that time can’t be surpassed. Everyone is subject to get trapped in nostalgia. Someone that was born in the 50s will say music in the 60/70s was the best, meanwhile 60 babies will say 70/80s music was the best, and so forth.
@TheSwish_
@TheSwish_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaycespades8360 you don’t know the game ..
@jaycespades8360
@jaycespades8360 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwish_ when you don’t have a logical response it tells me everything I need to know…
@TheSwish_
@TheSwish_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaycespades8360 you never played basketball,,, wilt is a two way player curry not .. wilt better scorer rebounder defender .. wilt lead league in assists .. curry has never done that .. wilt seven scoring titles .. 61 percent of his points off jumpers .. I’m done talking to niggas who never played the game or coached it
@jaycespades8360
@jaycespades8360 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwish_ clearly you’re a casual and never played with a take like that. Also I’m not a nigga like yourself, that’s a low socioeconomic label for poor blacks. Keep it to yourself sir.
@jrev8089
@jrev8089 2 жыл бұрын
How can 90's bigs like Oakley, Mason, and Ewing be physical with Steph on the 3-point line, with all those screens, fakes, relocating, and ball-handling? Skinny Reggie succeeded, and Iverson succeeded. Steph is like Reggie X Iverson, so he could succeed in any era.
@garagegeekguy
@garagegeekguy 2 жыл бұрын
I truly believe a prime Reggie in todays game is better than Steph.
@allenmk138
@allenmk138 2 жыл бұрын
@@garagegeekguy Stop it. Reggie Miller was awesome in the playoffs, but his overall career is overrated. Reggie Miller would be a Klay Thompson at best in this era, not a superstar player.
@FatbobRell
@FatbobRell 2 жыл бұрын
@@garagegeekguy I truly believe you wrote that at an Irish pub.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
Hand checking, friend.
@garagegeekguy
@garagegeekguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@FatbobRell huh?
@laz0rama
@laz0rama 2 жыл бұрын
from what i recall, many of wilt's low scoring finals came when he was not the team's a primary scorer. even the 68 sixers won when wilt stepped back from scoring and led the league in assists. and elgin and jerry west were at the end of their careers when wilt played with them (as was wilt). i agree that he was clearly not the kind of crazily driven winner like bill russell or mj. but i think bru is cherry picking with those critiques. i agree completely with ephraim, wilt would DOMINATE in any era. in his era when there was no shaq, he was a gentle giant, the absolute opposite of shaq who intentionally bullied everyone. wilt had much more finesse in his game than shaq ever could. not dissing shaq, he was absolutely dominant, but i think the difference in style of play needs to be considered when comparing them. if wilt wanted to run over people the way shaq did, he would do so with ease in ANY era. he was unquestionably the strongest dude to ever play in the nba. and he had skills that shaq could only dream of; the fadeaway bank shot, the sweet finger roll, the up and under, etc.folks don't give wilt his due.
@TheLc904
@TheLc904 2 жыл бұрын
Also many NBA folks say the 1967 Sixers team as the greatest ever.
@marlowstanfield6815
@marlowstanfield6815 Жыл бұрын
Please! Fadeaway bank shot? 😆 🤣
@thebigdipperarchive1007
@thebigdipperarchive1007 2 жыл бұрын
For as much hate as Wilt gets to this day for only winning two rings. I'll just say that he anchored two of the greatest teams to ever play and was their leader. The 1966-1967 Philadelphia 76ers, which went an absurd 68-13 And the 1971-1972 Los Angeles Lakers, which went 69-13, famously winning 33 games in a row. Plus Wilt's teams over his career played 1045 season games + 160 playoff games. They won 672 season + 88 playoff games. Season win%: 64.3 Playoff win%: 55 Total games win%: 63.1 Plus, the only team to win more titles than his team's during his time, or have higher win%s during his time was the Celtics who were the dominant dynasty from the late 50s through the entire 60s.
@SmartDave60
@SmartDave60 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave why did no one else BUT Wilt beat them if those C’s were beatable?
@jonathang8996
@jonathang8996 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave the Celtics had 8 hall of famers. He couldn't beat them by himself. Did Lebron ever beat the Warriors with KD?
@mac_94
@mac_94 2 жыл бұрын
I hate when analysts bring up physicality in the 90s as a factor when IT was smaller than steph and didnt struggle himself.
@itachiuchiha-oh1xo
@itachiuchiha-oh1xo 2 жыл бұрын
just because IT didnt struggle doesnt mean steph wouldnt. but i get your point
@el84oro
@el84oro 2 жыл бұрын
isiah struggled.he got his dont get me wrong, but that dude was getting knocked upside the head and hard fouled throughout games. in fairness, his teams did the same too. but isiah only played 13 years. i feel the league back then shortened his career.
@mac_94
@mac_94 2 жыл бұрын
@@el84oro I’m just saying he was good enough to win 2 chips
@itachiuchiha-oh1xo
@itachiuchiha-oh1xo 2 жыл бұрын
@@el84oro i dont see anything wrong with just playing 13 years. athletes aint meant to last forever
@jonathanchen1026
@jonathanchen1026 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone has a different top 10 and it’s okay. Some players will be in almost everyone’s top 10, just in different order.
@Jamescampbell4661
@Jamescampbell4661 2 жыл бұрын
Chris disqualifies his hold list leaving Wilt Chamberlain off his list. He has records that are still standing. He is only analyst on earth that has Wilt off his list. 😮
@JosiahHKing
@JosiahHKing 2 жыл бұрын
You CANNOT take Wilt out of the Top 10. That’s blasphemy. At least one person on here has some sense. Chris removed Wilt based on a hypothetical. Smh
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast 2 жыл бұрын
It seemed like the other guy was using a hypothetical about Wilt playing in today's game. Chris used facts about wilts game to show how if he did that in today's game the media would be critical of him in regards to scoring. Yes, there are other factors that attribute to winning but there is something to be said for a scoring average to drop so drastically in the finals and for you to lose to your equals more than you beat them.
@TheSlithice
@TheSlithice 2 жыл бұрын
Chris cited Wilt's playoff/finals numbers to base his claim, which part of that is hypothetical?
@anteongoestill8068
@anteongoestill8068 2 жыл бұрын
Chris said Steph handle better than Iverson Lost all credibility
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
That is hilarious. Steph gets his pocket picked by guys like Patrick Beverley and Seth
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
Bad comparison. An ACL tear was an career ending injury back in those days. Guys played in Cloth shoes on a wooden basketball court. They traveled by bus and didn't have all of this medicine and workout equipment to help. No 3 point line, poor nutrition, and other factors that today's players don't have to face.
@WorldBeater123
@WorldBeater123 2 жыл бұрын
Brou makes great points. Great breakdown of Wilts finals performances. Listen up Nick Wright, school is in session.
@choward5430
@choward5430 2 жыл бұрын
Great points? Broussard is ignorant of the details concerning Chamberlain. IGNORANT!
@weho_brian
@weho_brian 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Broussard is the definition of "in the moment" kind of guy
@sonnyf2324
@sonnyf2324 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Prisoner of the moment !
@Vvrroommm
@Vvrroommm 6 ай бұрын
DJ VLAD OF NBA ANALYST
@patrickpitamber
@patrickpitamber 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta be crazy leaving wilt out of top 5 not top 10
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
? Ur crazy wilt left his stats in the regular season and was a no show on the biggest stage regular season stats don’t make you top 10
@heels4lifx
@heels4lifx 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt is a professional stat padder. He could care less about the playoffs and that’s why his scoring dropped in the postseason.
@robinrondo
@robinrondo 2 жыл бұрын
It was very tough but I ended up taking Wilt out for Steph too. The main reason for me is, in terms of world we live in today. Just look at how Westbrook in Thunder and Harden in Houston dominated the stats for a couple of years with triple doubles and scoring respectively. Both are amazing accomplishments, but yet Westbrook averaging another triple double year and Harden averaging scoring 35 or even 50 a game doesnt have much impact anymore until they start leading and winning titles because of it. Wilt would always be one of the best players in history but he definitely wouldve been scrutinised more in today's world despite him winning those 2 championships and godly stats. In the end, its tough and subjective, so thats what makes it a good conversation for everyone.
@mumblezz__5890
@mumblezz__5890 2 жыл бұрын
Same I took wilt out for steph too
@fullmetal1766
@fullmetal1766 2 жыл бұрын
That's because you don't know basketball history wilt is top 5 minimum you can't hold him playing in his era against him or playing against a team with 5 hall of famers against him he was always the best player by far
@BatDad-qu4fo
@BatDad-qu4fo 2 жыл бұрын
@@fullmetal1766 Broussard actually gave some pretty good examples of VERY low scoring finals games by Wilt. He's not saying Wilt is a scrub or anything from having so many of those low games and only winning 2 chips, but he's right about superstars today would get killed in the media for scoring in single digits in finals games and Wilt did it a bunch of times. Even playing against future hall of famers, you'd expect him to do MUCH better than sometimes scoring as low as 4-5 pts in a game. Lebron played against 3-4 (potentially 5, if Iggy gets in) future hall of famers in the warriors and he would've been massacred in the media if he scored 4 pts one game. We'd literally never hear the end of it and I hadn't even heard of Wilt doing that until today.
@SmartDave60
@SmartDave60 2 жыл бұрын
@@BatDad-qu4fo this might sound strange but Wilt actually focused his attention away from scoring his last 7 years; vs his first 7 which are insane.
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
Different era, different rules. It is a bad comparison.
@shakorieaster7489
@shakorieaster7489 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Wilt played with Jerry West huh? So are we forgetting that Steph had to get KD to beat LeBron. Interesting what holds a player back but doesn't matter with another. Oh well.
@shakorieaster7489
@shakorieaster7489 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery refresh my memory. Was this the year Kevin Love didn't play the entire series and Kyrie missed the final five games? Is that what you're talking about?
@shakorieaster7489
@shakorieaster7489 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery did Steph play when KD and Klay went down and Kawhi beat him? Better question what happened in 2016 when Love and Kyrie were healthy? I'll wait for your answer......
@shakorieaster7489
@shakorieaster7489 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery yes Steph needed KD, Klay, Green and Iguodala to beat LeBron, Love and Kyrie. This is still a team game right? Do I have to explain team sports to you?
@shakorieaster7489
@shakorieaster7489 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery Oops you mean when players were injured in a team sport... I see you don't understand when your great players go down. Your chances of winning go down. First time talking about sports?
@shakorieaster7489
@shakorieaster7489 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery thanks for proving my point. Steph needed KD to beat a healthy Cavs team. All you had to say was I was right. Didn't need to beat around the bush.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing Steph can do better than Wilt is shooting from the 3pt line. Wilt could pass better, block better, rebound better, defend better, and score better. Steph would be a non-factor in Wilt's era, cause the 3-point line did not exist, so cut Steph's points in half for his career had he played in the 60s. Wilt would still be pretty much dominant in this era. Steph never played in a clear underdog team in his life. Wilt's life is defined by playing in underdog teams until he came to LA.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
Bro lol you can’t move players into different eras it’s such a dumb concept Steph plays in today’s era wilt played in the 60-70s some people need to accept that. And I’ll take Steph as a passer a leader a shooter and a guy who shows up in the biggest stage over wilt. Wow a center got more boards and blocks than a guard how surprising. And the 3pt line does exist so stop speculating and go off of what actually happened
@thaabestt7701
@thaabestt7701 2 жыл бұрын
I would hope someone who is 7’1 can block and get more rebounds than someone who is 6’2. Let’s see how wilt does when he can’t camp out under the rim the entire game, fyi that’s why they made 3 second lane violation bc he’ll do that most of the game.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaabestt7701 You see? That's the difference between Wilt and other players. NBA changed the rules of the sport to contain Wilt. Now they change the rules to protect players like Steph with the landing on foot rule to protect jump shooters.
@BatDad-qu4fo
@BatDad-qu4fo 2 жыл бұрын
First, the idea that Steph would be a non-factor just because the 3pt line didn't exist is absolutely ludicrous. Just because the line isn't there doesn't mean he magically can no longer shoot the ball well...makes zero sense! Also, Steph could dripple and drive better than pretty much everyone who played basketball back then, so the notion that he couldn't just blow by all those guys and get to the basket is ridiculous. He would dominate!
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaabestt7701 yea like he’s a center he’s going to get more rebounds blocks then a 6’2 guy
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is a great player and he's my favorite of this generation. He's not in my top 10 though. And he's DEFINITELY not over Wilt. >You can argue offense. Wilt's a better scorer who can shoot. Steph's a better shooter who can score. But there's a giant gap on defense in favor of Wilt. >Here is Curry's career stats. 24.3 points, 6.5 assists, 1.7 steals, 0.2 blocks, and 4.6 rebounds. Those numbers are not impressive to me. Maybe the assists are good for an off ball player. But that's it. >Wilt is a 4x MVP-3 times consecutively. Curry is a 2x MVP-and the 2016 MVP is incredibly controversial. People heavily disagreed with him being the first ever unanomous MVPs when so many other seasons were more suited for it. >Curry is a 4x all nba first team member. Meaning the league thought he was a 1st rate player 4 seasons in a 13 year span and counting. Wilt is a 7x all NBA first team member in a 14 year span. >While Wilt only won 2 chips-both wins were legit. Curry's recent victory was the most legit chip he won. In 2015, he was losing until Kyrie got injured. In 2016, he blew a 3-1 lead. Then he added KD to help him win in 17 and 18. This is a guy who's first 3 chips came from freak circumstances which is why he didn't win the finals MVP for any of them. Him proving himself this year doesn't change that. I can't ignore all of that because "today's players are under more scrutiny" and because Wilt's a playoff choker (as Chris used). His overally resume would need improvement.
@user-gc1wj8tt2p
@user-gc1wj8tt2p 2 жыл бұрын
show wilts finals scoring average.
@chrischilds368
@chrischilds368 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more with your points. It’s hilarious that Broussard says Wilt is a playoff chocked when Wilt averaged 22.5 points, 24.5 rebounds, and 4 assists. That’s greater than Curry’s playoff numbers.
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p I named like 5 different reasons not to put Curry in the top 10 or over Wilt. And you got stuck on a finals scoring average?
@milesaheadpodcast
@milesaheadpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
You have to stop using kyrie and Kevin love being injured as an asterisk for why the cavs lost in 2015. When lebron had 6 years of finals experience compared to warriors 0 with game 4 in his house and being up 2-1 without kyrie. Then in 2016 the warriors were going through so many injuries. That’s just hypothetically and a suspension. Steph is more efficient than wilt and he’s second all time in scoring in the finals. Steph has better playoff numbers than Kobe in the finals. Steph played great in the finals with kd and he arguably deserved the fmvp in 2018. Steph outplayed kd in 3 out of the 4 games of that series especially in the fourth quarter. It’s not like Steph averaged 15 points with kd.
@milesaheadpodcast
@milesaheadpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
@@x-man9473 You have to stop using kyrie and Kevin love being injured as an asterisk for why the cavs lost in 2015. When lebron had 6 years of finals experience compared to warriors 0 with game 4 in his house and being up 2-1 without kyrie. Then in 2016 the warriors were going through so many injuries. That’s just hypothetically and a suspension. Steph is more efficient than wilt and he’s second all time in scoring in the finals. Steph has better playoff numbers than Kobe in the finals. Steph played great in the finals with kd and he arguably deserved the fmvp in 2018. Steph outplayed kd in 3 out of the 4 games of that series especially in the fourth quarter. It’s not like Steph averaged 15 points with kd.
@bobomaigret5430
@bobomaigret5430 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Chris, you left something out: In 1967, Wilt Chamberlain led Philadelphia to an NBA record 68 wins and to the NBA championship. You are correct that he averaged 17.7 points per game in the finals that year. Here's what you neglected to mention: How many rebounds did Wilt average in those Finals? Answer: 28.5. Wilt was the clear MVP, but, as is pointed out below, the formal award was only awarded beginning in 1969. In 1972, Wilt Chamberlain led the Lakers to an NBA record 69 wins and to the NBA championship. Wilt averaged 19 points per game. Again, how many rebounds did Wilt average in those Finals? Answer: 19.2. Who was the NBA Finals MVP that year, when Wilt was "coming up short?" Answer: Wilt Chamberlain. Examples could be multiplied, but I'll leave it at that.
@Thiago_TT_MIA
@Thiago_TT_MIA 2 жыл бұрын
He is OUT. Better athletes now and more competitive now. Not just a bunch of slow white dudes from Wilt's era. A point guard is definitely a more important and difficult position to play than center. Wilt made no-one else better. Curry elevates others play
@heels4lifx
@heels4lifx 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, great, he could rebound against short guys. Fact is that Wilts scoring average dropped in the playoffs. He did not play better like other legends.
@johnnyblingg
@johnnyblingg 2 жыл бұрын
In 1972, Wilt and the Lakers only won 69 games, Jordan was the first to crack 70
@dillxdean
@dillxdean 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Wilt is definitely still top 10, recency bias is too real
@bobomaigret5430
@bobomaigret5430 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thiago_TT_MIA Hi Theo, Yes, definitely better athletes now. Many don't realize Wilt defeated Olympic Silver Medalist Dallas Long in arm wrestling, high-jumped 6'7", ran the 440 in under 50 seconds, and, as Arnold Schwarzenegger said of the 40 yr old Wilt: "He lifted me off the ground with one hand like it was nothing." BTW, you can check KZfaq for Coach Larry Brown describing 43-yr-old Wilt Chamberlain destroying prime Magic Johnson and three other Hall of Famers in a pickup game.
@anthonyjones7848
@anthonyjones7848 2 жыл бұрын
Let me say this, anybody who has Wilt Chamberlain out of the top 3, much less the top 10, has no idea what they're talking about. Wilt was the Babe Ruth of basketball. Ask any baseball writer today who were the top 10 players ever, and almost all of them would have Ruth, Mays, and Henry Aaron in the top 5. Most of the writers never saw Aaron and Mays play and none of them saw Ruth play. They picked them because they understand history and they're not blinded by the shiny new toys of today. The lack of respect given to Wilt by guys who call themselves basketball experts is stunning. There's not enough double talk that this clown Broussard can provide that can explain how a man who STILL owns 72 NBA records, many of which will never be broken, is not in the top 10. He can't explain how you keep a man who is the only player in the history of the sport that had the league change its rules to specifically stop HIM, is not worthy of a top 10. They didn't change the rules for Jordan, LeBron, or Curry.
@chrispettis1486
@chrispettis1486 2 жыл бұрын
The disrespect for Wilt and Kobe Bean Bryant is gotten out of hand
@DuckFanDane
@DuckFanDane 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not that world wasn’t amazing it’s that we’re not holding him up to the standard that we do every top 10 player. If there was a player who only averaged 18 in the finals and he scored 30 points per game in the regular season at least we would be destroying him but for some reason we give Wilt a pass. We can say Will was the greatest regular season player ever because he was and he has so many amazing records that’s why he should be number 11. The lack of showing up in the finals and all the bad games he has had even though he played like 48 minutes a game is very alarming and some thing he should get killed for. Let’s put this in perspective him and curry have had The same amount of finals games . Let’s put this in perspective wilt average 18 points a game in the finals with 13 games under 16 points and multiple 16 point games. Curry averages 27 points per game which is nine points on average more than him, he has less than 10 games under 20 pts he only has eight, and only three games under 16 points . So yes should wilt be in the top 10 he’s right outside now. Now I will say I think you can only have Wilt or Bill Russell in the top 10 because they both have knocks on them Bill Russell played with nine All-Stars and wilt did play with some amazing players like Jerry West but only one of them can be in the top 10
@anthonyjones7848
@anthonyjones7848 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuckFanDane your perspective is idiotic, which is much like most of the supposed basketball experts today. You try to use small subsets of statistics to justify you idiotic opinions. Ted Williams went to one World Series and didn't play particularly well in it, yet is generally considered one of the top 10 players ever. You people who want to judge a guy based off of sets of 7 game series have no idea what you're talking about...as is 18.6 points and 24.6 rebounds, 3.8 assists.....as a center by the way, in 35 Finals games is something to be ashamed of. When you still own 72 NBA records, almost 50 damn years after you stop playing, you don't get knocked out of any damn top 10
@docvaliant721
@docvaliant721 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuckFanDane They would beat up Wilt all game. To win you had to do 5v1 on Wilt. He took a beating. Hack a Shaq has nothing on what they did to Wilt. Wilt was kind. His strength was so great he could easily break someone bones. They changed rules to make it harder for Wilt.
@mchild80
@mchild80 2 жыл бұрын
Saying that Iverson is not a top 5 ball handler is perfect to me. Ppl confuse crossover with handles. You could steal balls from AI, something you couldn't do from players like Kyrie, Nash, Jamal Crawford and Pistol. There are different levels to it
@hlj2560
@hlj2560 2 жыл бұрын
Steph would took atleast 10 ankles per game in 80's and 90's
@user-jg1ez6kk9e
@user-jg1ez6kk9e 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, maybe like 8 😂 these older heads don’t realize how special this dude is
@TellyGianoulis
@TellyGianoulis 2 жыл бұрын
Steph would break his own ankles 10 times in the 80s and 90s dude is soft.
@JamilMusicLoverSingleton
@JamilMusicLoverSingleton 2 жыл бұрын
Steph woulda needed like 16 screens and woulda got injured quick as soon as he started showboating. Either injured or shut down either on D or attacked nonstop on offense cuz he cant guard. Yall crazy with this steph hype. 90s players wouldnt go for that weak steph play. He just a steve kerr. Steve kerr wasnt dominating no1 in the 90s so stop
@raymondvalasquez3992
@raymondvalasquez3992 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamilMusicLoverSingleton exactly, he's like a more talented version of his coach. he's about the best you can be as a shooting specialist. it's just that this era emphasizes the 3 and he's good at the 3, so he appears to be something he isn't. had he played in the 90s, he'd be an also-ran, never an mvp level player.
@heygringo7
@heygringo7 2 жыл бұрын
WILT definitely the GOAT wit da LADEEZ.....20,000+
@Noname-hc5uw
@Noname-hc5uw 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt will always be on my top 5 list for a couple reasons. The only player to ever lead the league at one time or another in scoring, rebounding and assist. The only player to average 48 min a game in one season. Never fouled out in his career. The night he set the NBA record for grabbing 55 boards, Russell was on the court, and known for his rebounding. One of only two players to have a 20-20-20 game. Rest my case!
@practiceyourart
@practiceyourart 2 жыл бұрын
What does averaging 48 minutes or never fouling out have to do with who the best are?
@Noname-hc5uw
@Noname-hc5uw 2 жыл бұрын
@@practiceyourart It shows conditioning and importance to the team. Never fouling out shows defensive discipline over a 13 year career. Everyone is familiar with Wilt's gaudy numbers, wanted to show the nuance of his game!
@mickyfingaz5132
@mickyfingaz5132 2 жыл бұрын
The year he averaged 50 the next best players avg was 31
@mickyfingaz5132
@mickyfingaz5132 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathang8996 Im talking about the next best player's avg after him. It was Walt Bellamy with 31.58. To point out how dominant he was
@jonathang8996
@jonathang8996 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickyfingaz5132 you're right
@nothingbutnets9025
@nothingbutnets9025 2 жыл бұрын
Did he win a championship?
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
The only real reason Wilt ain’t have more rings is because he played during the most dominant run for a team in pro sports history but everyone is entitled to their list.
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery The Celtics were way more dominant than any team in NBA history 😂. Lebron has 4 rings not 11. They dominated their era more than any team ever in sports what are you talking about lol. Those Cavs teams wasn’t even really dominant they won one ring and only had Kyrie twice in the finals for a full series. The Warriors shoulda beat them the majority of the time because they were better as a team.
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery Yeah to the Celtics who had a squad and so did the Knicks. They also won a championship that decade as well. Wilt was also hurt in that game 7 the same excuse you use for Steph in 2016.
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery You make excuses for Steph losing all the time man stop it 😂.
@logicalthinker48
@logicalthinker48 2 жыл бұрын
Man I don't care when you put 6'3 guy under check then I'll also put guy over 7 foot under same standards and same Nitpicking of stats
@z-mane1438
@z-mane1438 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery this league is the softest it’s ever been
@greggibson33
@greggibson33 2 жыл бұрын
After leaving Wilt off his top ten list, Chris should have his sports journalists card revoked.
@mvcstreetz9624
@mvcstreetz9624 2 жыл бұрын
How? He gave examples of why he made that choice
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
He was a no show on the biggest stage. Stats in the regular season don’t make you a top 10 player
@TellyGianoulis
@TellyGianoulis 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscarpenter7230 and Curry can’t defend so therefore he not top 10 end of story.
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
@@mvcstreetz9624 bad example. That is why it is stupid and senseless to compare eras. Drop Steph off in 1965 and he wouldn't make it in the NBA.
@Lutessa853
@Lutessa853 2 жыл бұрын
@@TellyGianoulis Steph isn't a great defender. You gotta understand that's only one aspect of basketball. At the end of the day it's all about winning (and how long you sustained it), and who the opponents are. Steph is part of a dynasty, 4 rings in 8 years with 1 Finals MVP, and is still going. He is playing in the Lebron/KD era and beaten both of them more times than they've beaten him. He's beaten the spurs from 15' to 17 with kawhi and duncan. He is the GREATEST shooter of all time. I can't say for sure Wilt is the greatest center of all time, thats kareem. There's an argument for greatest athlete, but iunno, there is always Lebron. He's not the greatest scorer either thats MJ. So he's great.... but not really the greatest at one particular thing which includes winning in the regular season and post season. Steph is the greatest at what he's known for, and that's shooting.
@blakeharris58
@blakeharris58 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t argue ‘if he played today’ to support keeping him on the top 10 list. He doesn’t play today.
@UltraVega924
@UltraVega924 2 жыл бұрын
A generation from now, Steph will undoubtedly be considered a top 10 player, and this debate will be irrelevant. Steph won’t get his due respect until the next generation.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
He already is and I believe he will pass magic and he top 5 or better when he retires. There’s just a lot of haters. Like when I look at guys like giannis no body hate on him. Idk why like almost half the nba world hate on Steph.
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 2 жыл бұрын
nobody can predict the future.
@TellyGianoulis
@TellyGianoulis 2 жыл бұрын
Not going to happen because Giannis and possibly Luka will be top 10 so they’re won’t be room for Curry.
@allenmk138
@allenmk138 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscarpenter7230 That's cap. Giannis gets plenty of hate, but he shut them up when he got a ring, but they will be back hating if he doesn't win another one soon.
@allenmk138
@allenmk138 2 жыл бұрын
@@TellyGianoulisThat would only be true if Curry was done right now, but that's not the case. Luka ain't touching that list if he doesn't get on Larry Bird's level, and I don't see that happening with his play style. Giannis is the only one that looks like a lock for top 20 at least cause he's elite at both ends of the floor.
@dman9958
@dman9958 2 жыл бұрын
Chris you are normally on your game to drop wilt Chamberlain off is a damn disgrace....you cannot drop wilt out of top 10 the guy has average 50 points and 25 rebs ..55 rebs in a game and a 100 point game
@DarkAsuraSky27
@DarkAsuraSky27 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Chris has Wilt #4 in his top 10 list a couple years ago. How can you drop #4 out of the top 10? I disagree with Chris. Curry was top 20 before winning his 4th and he's top 15 after winning his 4th
@LexxNova
@LexxNova 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 top 15
@shyqyrimusta190
@shyqyrimusta190 2 жыл бұрын
He had him 5 after mj, lbj, kaj and magic.
@amadorluis2008
@amadorluis2008 2 жыл бұрын
I agree he’s not top 10 but top 15 ? … IMO he’s 11 rn
@bskinny6087
@bskinny6087 2 жыл бұрын
@@amadorluis2008 11 is top 15🤣🤣🤣🤡
@amadorluis2008
@amadorluis2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@bskinny6087 I guess ur right 😭😭😭.. what I meant to say was that he should be 11 no higher or lower at the moment IMO
@colinforsecs3393
@colinforsecs3393 2 жыл бұрын
It's because in the finals teams would triple team Wilt, and Wilt's team was so ridiculously weak they couldn't make shots. When he had decent talent he won, and was on 2 of the greatest teams in history. His scoring average did come down, because his coach told him to focus on defense and rebounding...Those low averages that Chris pointed out in playoff games came after Wilt had a career ruining knee injury. His playoff averages before the injury was just fine.
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 2 жыл бұрын
The Klutch agents don't want nuance ... They keep pushing LeBron at #2 and dinging everyone else to make him look better... The truth is LeBron shouldn't be ranked higher than Kareem MJ Wilt Kobe Magic Shaq or Duncan
@colinforsecs3393
@colinforsecs3393 2 жыл бұрын
@@iTuber012 Wilt pre knee injury averaged more then Jordan averaged in the playoffs his first 8 seasons in the league. And I agree with you, Jordan, Kareem, Wilt and that's it..They're in a different category
@brianbirnbaum9760
@brianbirnbaum9760 2 жыл бұрын
Dude same with Steph lol. Terrible argument. Clearly you haven’t watched the Finals. Boston was the first team not to box and one him or trap and triple him.
@acason4
@acason4 2 жыл бұрын
Curry over Chamberlain is just down right DELUSIONAL!!!! 🤦🏼‍♂️
@kingkyro
@kingkyro 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@cucumber3027
@cucumber3027 2 жыл бұрын
Now y'all feel the Delusion of Putting LeBron above Jordan. Atleast Steph's resume can back it up lol and is Realistic 🤡😂
@acason4
@acason4 2 жыл бұрын
@@cucumber3027 Jordan is the GOAT, that’s not even remotely up for debate, but that has nothing to do with Curry! Anyone thinking Curry is a superior player to Chamberlain is either 15 years old or just completely delusional… 🤦🏼‍♂️
@HopefulNihilist
@HopefulNihilist 2 жыл бұрын
Both Russell and Wilt played in a semi professional era of basketball. Stop it. They don't belong in a top 10 all time list, cry about.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
@@HopefulNihilist This is funny coming from people playing in the "no-hand-check" era.
@jrapheal1
@jrapheal1 2 жыл бұрын
I ain’t listening without Rob.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
Lol why u want to here bs
@jrapheal1
@jrapheal1 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscarpenter7230 hahahahahhahaha. It’s more entertaining when Chris is screaming and talking over Rob while complaining he can’t get a word In edgewise.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrapheal1 lol true
@chrisjoseph3883
@chrisjoseph3883 2 жыл бұрын
I like how people say he wouldn’t be able to thrive in the 90s but Reggie Miller who weighs the same as Steph but is like 3-5 inches taller skinny ass took MJ to a game 7….
@chrisjoseph3883
@chrisjoseph3883 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention iverson skinny ass was crossing people up including MJ…..
@TellyGianoulis
@TellyGianoulis 2 жыл бұрын
3-5 inches is a massive difference lol
@speakingwithced
@speakingwithced 2 жыл бұрын
Chris is right stephs impact on winning is better than wilts clearly being he has more rings and he has been the best at his position for years now also he changed the way the game is played. Yes wilt has his own stat book but we gotta nitpick and you play to win the game not create your own stat book even tho both have done so therefore steph had won more so he has to go in and wilt is out for steph. Hell just for context i know y'all dont like it but Steph has 4 rings in 11 years played bcuz he missed 2 from injury and bron has 4 rings in 19 yrs and no missed seasons. Steph is an more efficient winner than bron these are facts man's is neck and neck with em go argue with a wall about these facts
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
Klay and Draymond also has 4 rings
@tj2nasty4ya83
@tj2nasty4ya83 2 жыл бұрын
Steph ain't top 10... Stop it.... Top 15
@ryanliu1070
@ryanliu1070 2 жыл бұрын
The guy’s argument about that Wilt would dominate today’s NBA is ridiculous. The reason why we don’t see traditional big centers in NBA any more is because based on the current rules, traditional Centers will not survive on both ends. Therefore the GM don’t draft them and the young kids are not trained to be them
@jimmyparson7221
@jimmyparson7221 2 жыл бұрын
We have got to stop slighting Curry. I get it. He’s not a physically imposing type of player that we’re use to but he has too many accolades at this point to keep him out of the top ten. Period! We have to face it the fact that some of the old players are being surpassed at this point by current players and that’s okay. With that said Wilt has to go. Stop refuting with a bunch of nonsensical hypotheticals to keep him out. Welcome to the top ten Steph. Well deserved.
@MaxPotentialGreatness
@MaxPotentialGreatness 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what I’ve been telling my piers. The game is evolving the old giants will get replaced. There’s way too much talent out here now. Steph is a one of one . We will probably never see a man shoot like steph ever again. He changed bball FOREVER . He is top 10
@logicalthinker48
@logicalthinker48 2 жыл бұрын
He's so Delusional man Steph curry made centers irrelevant 😂😂😂
@abucket1_778
@abucket1_778 2 жыл бұрын
😭
@Michael-tc1dm
@Michael-tc1dm 2 жыл бұрын
He's great he's just not top 10. Defensive liability for most of his career and has 1 legit chip without an asterisk. 2015 Cavs were decimated, in 2016 they lost to the Cavs in 2017 Kevin Durant joined and they won the next two because it was impossible for them to lose with Durant. The next year he loses to the raptors and now he finally got a chip with an MVP. He's not top 10 yet
@jacobcarter1947
@jacobcarter1947 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t be a top 10 player when you only play one side of the ball
@crush1221
@crush1221 2 жыл бұрын
It's so frustrating in Basketball when discussing a player's career ranking we leave out the biggest factor, which is the other 9 players on the court. Argue all you want about Wilt's stats vs wins, but look at his teammates/competition each time. Same goes for every damn player. Teamwork makes the dreamwork and will always beat individual excellence, the ball moves faster than the player. It's pretty peculiar to Ball too, most other team sports talk about teams.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
? What’s ur argument
@crush1221
@crush1221 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscarpenter7230 The general focus of most people's arguments for or against any player focus on the individual via their team achievements... rather than understanding the individual's contributions are always going to be dwarfed overall by the other 9 players on the court. Teammates matter. Competition maters. Context matters.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
@@crush1221 well yea but you can make exceptions and put asterisks next to like every title and mvp etc ever
@gew2027
@gew2027 2 жыл бұрын
@@crush1221 people want to d is wilt and say Jordan and lebron were the greatest. Their not even close
@Julems
@Julems 2 жыл бұрын
Said a whole lot of NOTHING family 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 2 жыл бұрын
This was Asinine, AsiTEN, AsiEleven, AsiTwelve ! Stop disrespecting Wilt... There are not 5 players better than the big dipper The real top 10 are as follows: 1. Kareem 2. MJ 3. Wilt 4. Kobe 5. Magic 6. Shaq 7. Duncan 8. Russell 9. LeBron 10. Steph
@mac_94
@mac_94 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt was the big diaper in the finals
@heels4lifx
@heels4lifx 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt choked in the playoffs. He played for stats, not winning…and that’s why his scoring dropped in the playoffs. Prove me wrong.
@kultan2000
@kultan2000 2 жыл бұрын
Steph ain't in my top ten and Wilt not being in the top ten renders any list a joke.
@shaneboone5948
@shaneboone5948 2 жыл бұрын
This is GREAT!!! Keep Rob off the Show!!!
@thebigdipperarchive1007
@thebigdipperarchive1007 2 жыл бұрын
Playoff series: 7-1: Russell's Celtics vs. Wilt's teams 20-1: Russell's Celtics vs. non-Wilt teams 17-4: Wilt's teams vs. non-Celtics Wilt had more championships from 1960 to 1972 than any non-Celtics player. People can say what they want about Wilt but "loser" is not a logically appropriate label for him. As if not for facing the most stacked team ever he would have at minimum 6 to 7 rings.
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 2 жыл бұрын
They never mention how many HOF players the Celtics had compared to other teams. And more importantly how there was a limit to how many of a certain kind of player a team could have on their team 🤔 😒
@AAblade7
@AAblade7 2 жыл бұрын
Javale McGee is a freak athlete and he’s a role player. Chill about the 90’s. It wasn’t mad max and the thunder dome. More importantly you had illegal defense in the 90’s. Steph is going to have single coverage north of the foul line. He would destroy that league.
@JP-qb9mf
@JP-qb9mf 2 жыл бұрын
Still holds untouchable records 50 years later…Rebound all time leader, 100 point game, only center to ever lead the league in assists, less teams back in the day so he played against Bill Russell numerous times and one game had 55 rebounds on Russell, and the list goes on…He’ll always remain in the top 10!
@bagchaserjay9645
@bagchaserjay9645 2 жыл бұрын
against what competition tho, today's NBA players would bust any of the ppl wilts played with no problem. wilt didn't have to gaurd a step back or a fade aways they just went up with the ball
@docvaliant721
@docvaliant721 2 жыл бұрын
@@bagchaserjay9645 you need to do research. You're just saying things.
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
@@bagchaserjay9645 Wilt had a fade away so others also had one. Take one of today's players, playing in canvas sneakers on hard work and flying commercial or taking a train or bus across country.
@DJKevvyKevCoolBreeze
@DJKevvyKevCoolBreeze 2 жыл бұрын
These conversations crack me up. "Not top 10"???? Wilt is the GOAT, and it Isn't Even Close.
@devjames2532
@devjames2532 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt and Russell dominated when they were only 8 and 9 teams and the league still had part time NBA players. No disrespect to their accomplishments but they are the next 2 to move out
@Dejayy85
@Dejayy85 2 жыл бұрын
Right man they’d destroy them in pick and rolls today .. they would not “dominate” today because they would get wiped off the floor all the screens and playing outside them old dudes need to go I’m sorry
@kharis87
@kharis87 2 жыл бұрын
Russell and Wilt dominated until 1969 when league expanded to 14 teams and players who were great in the 60's continued to be great into the 1970's when league expanded more and Kareem played until 1989 and was still a top 10-15 player up to 1985. The NBA players were not "part time". They just had to get jobs cause the NBA wasnt paying too well unless you were Wilt. Those guys worked hard and were professional basketball players. No load managing like today's "full time players". Great players can play in any era. Both Wilt and Russell were better overall athletes than any other NBA player of all time. Both were also in track and field. Look at their accomplishments in those fields........not many are capable of those feats............probably only Jordan, Wilkins, Dr J and Lebron. Go look at Wilt Chamberlain archives. Not many in all of NBA history are running that fast. Wilt had a 44 inch vertical. So the guys from his era who were competing against him and Russell are worth being acknowledged as more than just part time players smh lol
@No-wc6hw
@No-wc6hw 2 жыл бұрын
You have no knowledge 🤡
@jonathang8996
@jonathang8996 2 жыл бұрын
Having 8 teams made every game more difficult bc every team was stacked. Every team had multiple hall of famers.
@travisstewart8655
@travisstewart8655 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for being in the media
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 2 жыл бұрын
🗑
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
@@zerotolerance5019 how? If he’s trash idk what rob parker is
@frankdeesageswamiofficialm6924
@frankdeesageswamiofficialm6924 2 жыл бұрын
You're the best analyst my bro was telling me about kawhi leanord and lebron agreement years ago I think he mentioned your name idk but I just found out where he got the information from typing in LeBron kawhi and lighting to your video realizing you'd be someone who had that insight and it's real
@gedrictudio
@gedrictudio 2 жыл бұрын
I know Wilt had monster numbers, despite scoring low, during the Finals. But, this is why I see it as a mistake when you try to compare the greats' numbers against each other. As they explicit always said with Andrew Wiggins, "he's an empty calories guy". All stats, no winning. And I know the greats are obviously winning, that's why they're in that discussion. It isn't a comparison with Wiggins, but a comparison of how effective were you against your competition. The thing with Wilt is, he wasn't as much during the important times. Wilt competed against the Celtics, and yes they were monstrous, but he had a lot of opportunities post-Bill Russell as well. And from all that time, he only got two. And was the best on only one. I also hate it when they say, "He's the Shaq of that era.". Because it's a little unfair to Shaq. Why? Shaq was a three-time Finals MVP during a threepeat. Yeah, he had Kobe, but then that dismisses the fact that Wilt had Jerry West (plus Goodrich and Baylor). This is why I think the case for Steph over Wilt is a little compelling and convincing. Steph actually steps up in the big games. He's performing at the same level or better during the playoffs and the Finals. Despite that bad 2016 stat, which people forget was him coming in early from an injury, he's been relatively good. During the KD years as well, he was going toe to toe with KD in performance stat-wise, and then the eye test, which is seeing Steph's abnormal gravity, is a testament to his greatness. Aside from that, Steph dominated his era in his position. People would say you're coked up if you say anyone else was better at the point (unless you say it's LeBron, but that's a different argument for now). There are only a few people you can say that with. Wilt wasn't. Bill and Kareem have outperformed him (and several other centers as well). Anyways, that's just my two cents on the Wilt v Steph. I say that but I actually have both in the Top 10. And I actually still have Wilt over Steph (the regular season stats are just astronomical to overlook), but that being said, one more championship jumps Steph over a lot of people. And I think the Top 11 are now the different class. It's just a matter of rankings. The 11 are: MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Bill, Wilt, Larry, Kobe, Steph, Shaq, Tim. I placed Tim outside the Top 10 because no matter how good his stats and performance was, he wasn't a game-changer. He wasn't perceived as someone who changed the game. All the ones in the Top 10, you can't tell a summarized story of the NBA without mentioning their names. That is the impact that I'm looking at. Then there are two barely outside of this class but are literally just a hair below: KD & Hakeem. If Steph gets another ring, we can say he won more without KD than with KD. And if that's another Finals MVP for Steph (5 rings, 2 FMVPs, 2 MVPs), which I expect, he's easily jumping Larry (3 rings, 2 FMVPs, 3 MVPs) & Kobe (5 rings, 2 FMVPs, 1MVP), and in my eyes, even Wilt. Sidenote: If Draymond hadn't gotten injured, the Warriors would retain their #1 spot in the West. And if they perform as well as they've done during the start of the season, Steph would still be ranked #1 in the MVP rankings. Steph could've had four MVPs in one season.
@gew2027
@gew2027 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt told Jordan he would average 60 points a year if he played in his era.
@nothingbutnets9025
@nothingbutnets9025 2 жыл бұрын
And? If Lebron played in the 60s he’d average 80 😂
@gew2027
@gew2027 2 жыл бұрын
@@nothingbutnets9025 lebron and Jordan would have got put on their azz trying to drive the lane.
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 2 жыл бұрын
@@gew2027 MJ has one of the best mid range games ever. So he doesn't need to drive to the lane.
@gew2027
@gew2027 2 жыл бұрын
@@x-man9473 it's called a no fly zone. Wilt to tall to strong and to fast..greatest basketball player and athlete ever
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 2 жыл бұрын
@@gew2027 Wilt fans are incredibly delusional people.
@mjsantos8492
@mjsantos8492 2 жыл бұрын
All these box score fans defending Wilt whiel forgetting that stats are inflated back then due to the fast pace they play. 50 pts before is like 35 points today... but sure lets assume Wilt beats Steph in terms of box score stats. Steph beats him in terms of winning impact, rings, +/- which is more important. High numbers means nothing when it doesn't contribute to winning.
@lacydoe
@lacydoe 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your sane logic. Wouldn’t you say the ball dominant play style inflates numbers too? Or when your allowed to chuck up 20 threes nowadays?
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 2 жыл бұрын
Well EVERYONE in Wilt's time had the same added opportunities from the higher pace. How did he do relative to the competition? 12 rebound titles, 7 scoring titles in a row (only tied once, by Jordan), 4 MVPs (once as a ROY), 1 FMVP and would have gotten another one but it wasn't awarded until the next year, and he set the all-time regular season win record (twice) with two different teams (breaking his own record), both ending with a Finals win. And the all-time win streak of 33 games which endures to this day. Steph had 2 scoring titles, 1 steals title, and that's it for leading the league. No assist titles is glaring. Only 2 MVPs, 1 FMVP, set the all-time win record once, but lost that year in the Finals, in the only Finals loss from up 3-1. Wilt also finished his career in first place for most points and rebounds (and would have had the most blocks for a career, if the stat was kept). He also had the record for the most win shares (now at 3rd place behind Kareem and LeBron who played 3-4 more seasons), whereas Steph is.... 46th, with less than half of Wilt's total (120 vs. 247).
@mjsantos8492
@mjsantos8492 2 жыл бұрын
@@lacydoe are you saying steph is ball dominant? He shoots 10 3's a game sure but he has a healthy amount of usage rate for a superstar with the warriors offense thats why all his teammates gets an opportunity to shine (Klay, Wiggins, Poole could all attempt 10-18 shots a game)
@mjsantos8492
@mjsantos8492 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillipschuman4307 yeah give him all the numbers. He's basically james harden in our era if harden won 2 rings where he's already out of his prime. Win Shares are heavily influenced by box score stats btw its not exactly an accurate advanced stat. Check Thinking Basketballs video regarding Wilt vs Russell you'll know how much of a negative he was for winning when he was averaging huge numbers.
@mjsantos8492
@mjsantos8492 2 жыл бұрын
@@lacydoe plus he doesn't hold the ball for long amounts of time which actually deflates his assists. The warriors as a team keeps moving the ball so everyone gets the chance to create plays
@Doknot-tb9ey
@Doknot-tb9ey 2 жыл бұрын
I ain't taken Wilt out of the top 10 over Steph, man please.
@SkinsFan902
@SkinsFan902 2 жыл бұрын
Chris what are you smoking to disrespect hakeem like this
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
So u mean to tell me Wilt only averaged 18 ppg in the finals and y’all call Steph a finals chocker imagine if Steph averaged that in the finals. Steph>Wilt all time.
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
He probably would without a 3 point line
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin6449 lol but Wilt a center he don’t shoot 3s so that’s not an excuse for Wilt. Also if Jerry West can average 30+ than Steph would average over 40.
@Lefthandrightband
@Lefthandrightband 2 жыл бұрын
We goina ignore the fact wil average over 20 rebounds and over 8 blocks and over 6 assists?
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lefthandrightband rebound merchant
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusyosif1041 Steph would fall apart in those days. He would not stay healthy playing in chucks 😂. Them ankles would be done and the 3s would be 2s so he wouldn’t be allowed to play the same deep ball game in those times. Players didn’t play as long back then either.
@mr.aboriginal2626
@mr.aboriginal2626 2 жыл бұрын
What doesn’t make sense is Chris gave a perfect reason why Wilt would be out. Y’all talk about what happens in the playoffs and he didn’t perform in the playoff. Steph has perform in every level.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt was better than Steph by any metric in regular seasons. Points, assists, rebounds, blocks. He has the same amount of Finals MVPs as Steph. So...yeah.
@marcusyosif1041
@marcusyosif1041 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofior2562 ok notice how u said regular season and not playoffs
@mr.aboriginal2626
@mr.aboriginal2626 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusyosif1041 exactly. He didn’t read what I typed in😂
@mr.aboriginal2626
@mr.aboriginal2626 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofior2562 I’m not saying Wilt isn’t great but when it comes to the playoffs, he underperformed and that matters on your resume. If it didn’t, Jordan nor Bill would be considered the greatest
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusyosif1041 Sure, he is a 3-point-line specialist. His numbers are inflated. You put Steph in the 60s without a 3-point line and he averages 12 points a game for his career.
@alouda-valorant9692
@alouda-valorant9692 2 жыл бұрын
If you're valuing impact on winning, look at the stat of % wins added to their team when a player plays vs doesn't play: Steph is #1 all time with ~32%, Lebron #2 with ~30.6%, MJ #3 with ~26% (I think JimmyHighRoller did vid on this). He won before and after KD. Plus Steph completely changed the game. He broke the meta of basketball. Gamers know that anything that causes a meta change is overpowered. Steph is literally overpowered. Steph will eventually go down in the Top 3 to GOAT debate. People will realize this over time.
@Tonyoung55
@Tonyoung55 2 жыл бұрын
That stat makes no sense to use because if a team is more built around you it will favor you more. A lot of these stats have flaws in there
@jamesbaldwin6235
@jamesbaldwin6235 2 жыл бұрын
Guys Wilt ran a 10.9 100 meter dash, shot putted 56 feet. And won the high jump championships straight years in college. We are literally talking about an elite athlete of in Era. Put some respect on this man's name. Also he was 7'1 doing all this stuff. He was a freak of nature.
@brianbirnbaum9760
@brianbirnbaum9760 2 жыл бұрын
Has absolutely nothing to do with winning basketball games. Four to two.
@Darkkent83
@Darkkent83 2 жыл бұрын
Let's use Salaam's logic in reverse and put prime Steph in wilt's era....with no 3s he would average 50!
@Michael-tc1dm
@Michael-tc1dm 2 жыл бұрын
Chris really needs a new partner. This podcast would take off if they got rid of rob.
@mitchmiller145
@mitchmiller145 2 жыл бұрын
Still listening, but based on what I've heard and as far as this all-time top 10 list, how about we call it the Dirty Dozen? Then we can include Steph, Bird, and Wilt ... no harm, no foul.
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 2 жыл бұрын
Chris B. said he cared about winning. How about this, then? Wilt has the 3rd highest win share total in NBA history. Only Kareem and LeBron are above him, and they had four and three more seasons to surpass him, respectively. LeBron barely edges him out, 249 to 247. Steph is in 46th place, with less than half of Wilt's total (120.23 for Steph, 247.26 for Wilt). Ok, but that's the regular season. What about in the playoffs? Wilt is 6th, and Steph is 24th.
@ayishakitikis
@ayishakitikis 2 жыл бұрын
Your argument is flawed…. How many seasons did Wilt play in the NBA compared to Steph? How many seasons has Lebron played so far compared to Steph? Lebron played majority of his NBA career in the weak Eastern conference until he moved to the West…. So yes, your argument is flawed!
@ayishakitikis
@ayishakitikis 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Steph missed majority of games due to ankle injuries from 2009 to 2013/14…. and Lebron skipped college and played in the NBA, so he has that longevity, plus a weak Eastern conference with the Cavs…. Once again your argument is flawed
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayishakitikis so you think that his ankle would hold up in the 60s and 70s playing in canvas shoes and on hard wood.
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayishakitikis Wilt and Steph played a similar amount of seasons. Wilt played 14 seasons and Curry played 13 seasons.
@ayishakitikis
@ayishakitikis 2 жыл бұрын
@@stonedecatur6602 Were you born in the 60s and 70s? Did you watch Wilt play? Have you seen the style of basketball they played in 60s and 70s? You guys keep following the narratives from the media and using them as your argument…. Smh
@gravyback2598
@gravyback2598 2 жыл бұрын
EPHRAIM physically is describing James Wiseman when describing Wilt.
@bigbyron44
@bigbyron44 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh I don't understand why Hakeem isn't the top 10 discussions. Talk about doing it at both end of the floor and transcending the game. Hakeem footwork was impeccable and he could shoot the J. So skilled that the great players of this era seek him out to work on their game.
@choward5430
@choward5430 2 жыл бұрын
IF DRAYMOND GREEN DID HAD THESE NUMBERS AVERAGE IN FINALS SERIES, Broussard would pass out! Wilt Chamberlain 1965 Finals Points avg 29.4 Rebounds 27.6 Assists 2.4 Wilt Chamberlain 1967 Finals Points 17.7 Rebounds 28.5 Assists 6.8 MVP Wilt Chamberlain 1969 Finals Points 11.7 Rebounds 25.0 Assists 3.0 Wilt Chamberlain 1970 Finals Points 23.3 Rebounds 24.1 Assists 4.0 Wilt Chamberlain 1972 Finals Points 19.4 Rebounds 23.2 Assists 2.6 MVP (Game 5 1972 24 points 29 rebounds 8 assists 8 blocks - A game LeBron is incapable of doing)
@ThaAJ510
@ThaAJ510 2 жыл бұрын
This ain’t that impressive in the 60s tbh imagine what lebron would do if you plopped him in that time😬
@MrBimirud
@MrBimirud 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to Wilt. If he was just doing this stuff because he played in the 60s, then why was he the only one doing it? In that and any other era?
@ThaAJ510
@ThaAJ510 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBimirud Basketball wasn’t what is is today simply put. The nba and Aba hadn’t even merged. Yeah wilt was great for his time but the sport evolved so much in the coming decades
@rockjm9876543210
@rockjm9876543210 2 жыл бұрын
Shooting can thrive in any era.
@larrelhannon6851
@larrelhannon6851 2 жыл бұрын
Chris this is your worst take Wilt has been the most dominant center of all time not to mention player period it's like a human playing against a gorilla stop it with this prisoner of the moment
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
WILT chamberlain legacy is unquestioned you can't fault a guy who was so dominant nobody was on his level Chris is smoking something.
@cucumber3027
@cucumber3027 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, if he's so Dominant, why did he won 2 on Russell's 11 on the same era? But Anyway that's a valid argument to make
@z-mane1438
@z-mane1438 2 жыл бұрын
@@cucumber3027 russell played with 6 HOFers
@cucumber3027
@cucumber3027 2 жыл бұрын
@@z-mane1438 Wilt played w/ 10 and the Dude averaged 50 at one point on a reg season. But Broussard's point here was, as good as he is in the Regular season, he tend to come up small in the Finals. That's why he kept losing to Russell. But no one is Diminishing Wilt's greatness, it's just that Steph gotta be on that list. And being #11 over 4000+ players is not bad at all lol
@themooneytwins
@themooneytwins 2 жыл бұрын
Russell was dominant at winning.
@AliMohamed-yq4wn
@AliMohamed-yq4wn 2 жыл бұрын
The guy who averaged 18 points in the finals and 22 in the playoffs, he is just a regular season stat merchant.
@StephoneYoung
@StephoneYoung 2 жыл бұрын
wilt was playing 5 on 1 in the finals
@Thiago_TT_MIA
@Thiago_TT_MIA 2 жыл бұрын
against slow white dudes
@jsl8905
@jsl8905 2 жыл бұрын
If its all about impact on winning than the greatest player all time is Bill Russell by a long shot.
@jeffr9854
@jeffr9854 2 жыл бұрын
How can shaq not be on the list? Most dominant player I’ve seen . Longevity is the only reason he only won 4 championships
@Patawon
@Patawon 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt and/or Bill can be replaced. Bill averaged under 20 ppg, shot under 50% from the field as a center, played with 5+ hofers every year, and won championships in a league when there were only 9 teams. Is he an all time great? Yes!!! Is he undeniably in the top 10? No so fast my friend!
@themooneytwins
@themooneytwins 2 жыл бұрын
Top 3.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
If there were only 9 teams, why did West, Robertson, Baylor, Reed, Pettit not win one single time against Russell?
@devjames2532
@devjames2532 2 жыл бұрын
Both also played against the weakest competition as it was common for players to have other salary job
@roww10
@roww10 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong neither can be replaced. Really you want to replace the most dominate player in basketball history (Chamberlain) and the player with the most championships, because he regularly beat the most dominate player in basketball history (Russell). This is why Bill Russell is the G.O.A.T. He was going through Chamberlain to get those rings. Before Russell got to the Celtics the had not won anything. When he retired the team didn't make the playoffs for 2 yrs. while having 2 HOFers on the team. MJ takes a year off, the Bull wins 2 less games than the year before. Curry a great player but he has not top 10. Not yet. When he wins a couple of more championships then we'll talk
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 2 жыл бұрын
Chris is showing BS , he knows damn well that in Wilt & Russell era the best players WEREN'T ALLOWED to play in the league... Wilt would've dominated in ANY ERA , that's why he holds records ( that means you're the only one to have accomplished that feat)... the lack of championships are because the Celtics had stacked squads & ownership that was willing to INCLUDE players that other teams wouldn't allow to play...Steph only had one finals that he lead his team to a title , he was sort of a role player or disappointment in all other finals... Chris stop trying to start a weak narrative for Steph to exclude Wilt on your list. You do the same thing for Lebron to try to make him leapfrog Kareem, Kareem's basketball resume far exceeds ANYONE on any of your list (it's written & etched in stone , it's HIStory 😆). Stop reaching (preaching) , you're starting to taint your reputation bro 👎🏾
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave How many points would Steph avg in an era without the 3pt line such as Wilt's and Russell's?
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave You are delusional if you think a shooting guard would avg 55% shooting for a career. Only centers avg that.
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave Steph has won one Finals MVP.. that means he lead his team 1 time... Wilt scoring 100pts in a game alone should tell you of his dominance, name 5 other players that you know that has scored that many points on any level 🤔... we all know that basketball is a TEAM sport, ask Barkley, Ewing ,Iverson, McGrady, Malone ,etc. how much a TEAM is needed to win a championship... for all those people that thinks Steph belongs on a top 10 list , you're right , a top 10 shooting 3pt list and that's it.. he plays no defense(never has)
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave What are you talking about? When Steph had Green and Wiggins but did not have Klay Thompson they got the 7th spot in the West, barely over 0.500, and failed to make the playoffs. You guys don't understand basketball, do you?
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofior2562 what did Steph do last year and the year before that w/o Klay 😳... do tell 🤔
@merrickbeaufort8048
@merrickbeaufort8048 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Russel is not a top 10 player I’m sorry to break the news. He’s a legend a hall of Famer and important to the history of the game. But there were 10 teams in the league, he’s was the tallest player at 6/9 and the talent was not there all around. He averaged like 15 points at the height of his career I mean come on.
@theworkethic
@theworkethic 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt Chamberlain is a monster
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
Except in the finals which is when it matter most
@thebigdipperarchive1007
@thebigdipperarchive1007 2 жыл бұрын
For context about Wilt's finals average. 1964 is Wilt's only NBA Finals series that his team had him looking to score when they fed him in the post. He attempted 24 shots per game during that series as opposed to only 11.7 shots per game average for the rest of his NBA finals career (30 additional games). This has led many to see his 18.6 finals ppg and conclude he must have not been as capable as his regular-season career number indicates. But it’s actually because his role changed so much and he played far more finals (relative to his regular-season career) in a fewer shot attempt role. This is weighted as such because he had more Finals appearances late in his career vs those early years where he was blowing up PPG records.
@marcuscarpenter7230
@marcuscarpenter7230 2 жыл бұрын
Ok but he scored 4 points in 48 mins that’s more than a role change
@theavatar9191
@theavatar9191 2 жыл бұрын
Steph better
@Godisgoodalways7777
@Godisgoodalways7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@theavatar9191 Hell Nah!!!!!
@Godisgoodalways7777
@Godisgoodalways7777 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscarpenter7230 OK HE STILL BETTER THAN CURRY
@jakeequality8065
@jakeequality8065 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt is the best athlete ever in the NBA....These clowns are a disgrace
@stopcampin4097
@stopcampin4097 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery that means nothing 🍤
@z-mane1438
@z-mane1438 2 жыл бұрын
@@stopcampin4097 that dude be defending his man on every curry video lol
@jakeequality8065
@jakeequality8065 2 жыл бұрын
@Beery Steph plays in the softest era in NBA history....alll these numbers have asterisks
@julyhoward5757
@julyhoward5757 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt probably was triple teamed in those finals. Need footage. Not just numbers. Sorry.
@anteongoestill8068
@anteongoestill8068 2 жыл бұрын
He top 11-15
@lando_calrissian9872
@lando_calrissian9872 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to do it, because I have so much respect for what he went through and he's the definition of a winner. I would take out Mr. Russell and replace him/w Steph. My top ten is based on numbers, talent, the it factor, winning and who would I draft number #1.
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think you know more than Phil Jackson about basketball? When asked who he would take first in their prime, he said Bill Russell without a second of hesitation. He coached Jordan, Kobe and Shaq, and played against Wilt.
@rawmeal4664
@rawmeal4664 2 жыл бұрын
The desperation puttin steph in the top10🤮
@acason4
@acason4 2 жыл бұрын
It’s down right delusional… 🤦🏼‍♂️
@ZeeroBills
@ZeeroBills 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he has the resume . Only a matter of preference
@stopcampin4097
@stopcampin4097 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeeroBills 11-15 top 10 u gotta have some type of all defensive no way
@ZeeroBills
@ZeeroBills 2 жыл бұрын
@@stopcampin4097 Curry lead the league in steals once. All defensive team doesn’t make you a great defender was CP3 a great defender? Lmao
@AliMohamed-yq4wn
@AliMohamed-yq4wn 2 жыл бұрын
@@stopcampin4097 you can’t win 4 championships without playing defence, Steph has always been a good defender.
@christianmedina3034
@christianmedina3034 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be real the issue is some players have to be top 10 just bc,wilt and bill have spots no matter what,there’s a few players better then them but won’t get tht nod Bc of the respect those two got
@Zay_Rich
@Zay_Rich 2 жыл бұрын
Why would he take out Wilt? Shouldn't he take out whoever he has a number 10, Steph wouldn't move up that much just from winning another Championship. He has him at 8 now. Before he had him between 12-15. Doesn't make sense.
@travisstewart8655
@travisstewart8655 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to this makes me realize these guys are no longer talking about true basketball they’re just using their love of certain players and their hatred for certain players and talking about it. When Chris is asking them why couldn’t he do this in different areas and they don’t have one thing to say you realize they already made up their mind.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
Steph could average the same amount of points in Wilt's era without the 3pt line? Of course not, dude. Steph's game is the 3pt line.
@remnant8898
@remnant8898 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofior2562 Steph shoots over 50% from 2. He'd easily score as many points becsuse he wouldn't need to take such long bombs.
@pedrofior2562
@pedrofior2562 2 жыл бұрын
@@remnant8898 He would not have any room in the paint. The game was way more inside than now. And I am really discounting hand-checking, carrying rules, and all sorts of things that made PGs way less effective as scorers than the current soft era.
@mwgta2
@mwgta2 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofior2562 and the same way Steph changed the game in todays game he would change it back then. With everyone focusing on the pain that would give Steph space to make deep two pointers and shots off the dribble outside the pain.
@remnant8898
@remnant8898 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofior2562 so players like Tiny Archibald, IT, and other guards 6"3 and under who thrived in thay era dont count?
@A.Wojnarowski
@A.Wojnarowski 2 жыл бұрын
And Steph would have cook the sh*t out of Wilt's eras guards (and I'm definitely not a Steph fan). Everybody always "would be dominant in X era" 😂
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 2 жыл бұрын
No, remember Curry needed ankle surgery to stay in the league. Place him in that era when micro surgery didn't exist and he wouldn't make it.They had to remove the whole knee cap for ACL surgery, back then.
@A.Wojnarowski
@A.Wojnarowski 2 жыл бұрын
@@stonedecatur6602 he wouldn't have needed that ankle surgery back then. We could also say that Wilt would have to play against athletic black men nowadays 😏
@iguodolafrancisco2349
@iguodolafrancisco2349 2 жыл бұрын
Time for a vacation mr Broussard PRISONER OF THE MOMENT lmao
@Nick-fz2oo
@Nick-fz2oo 2 жыл бұрын
Some people have and always will hate Steph.
@zumptt
@zumptt 2 жыл бұрын
I like Steph but he isn't top 10. Just like I like LeBron and he isn't even top 5 yall overhype newer players. Dont get me wrong, i understand and its normal. But people with eyeballs see through the conjecture and bias
@attinger117
@attinger117 2 жыл бұрын
Why are they acting like 1v1 doesn't matter? Its very important to be able to guard your man and stay in front of him, thats just a useful skill in general and team defense is important but iso defense is just as important to stop drives. And also, 1v1 scoring is important too. I love team basketball when the ball is moving and it creates open shots. But when you're facing a team with a strong defense, that doesn't always work.. if your offense fails, it's very valuable to have a great 1v1 player to bail you out with a go to move.
@robertfrazier1377
@robertfrazier1377 Жыл бұрын
I like Steph and what he's done so far in his NBA career, but to replace who many consider to be the greatest big man of all time does'nt make any sense. You don't replace a big man with a guard. If you choose a first and second team with point guards and shooting guards. You got Oscar and Magic on the first and second team. MJ and Kobe shooting guards. Wilt and Kareem the centers, The Mail Man and Tim Duncan my two power forwards, and LaBron along with John Havlicek small forwards. These are my picks and I know someone will even question these, but Steph could possibly fit into the top thirty or maybe even twenty but not the top ten.
@charlesjohnson536
@charlesjohnson536 2 жыл бұрын
IF YOU GOT STEPHEN CURRY IN YOUR NBA TOP 10(HE SHOULDN'T BE) .. AND DON'T HAVE OL'🐐👑 WILT CHAMBERLAIN IN YOUR TOP 3 .. YOU NEED YOUR 🏀 TALKING PRIVILEGES REVOKED ..
@milesaheadpodcast
@milesaheadpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is a better playoff performer than Kobe especially in the finals check the numbers. Kobe shouldn’t be in the top 10. Wilt and Shaq severely underachieved when it comes to what they should have been.
@milesaheadpodcast
@milesaheadpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave If Shaq had been in great shape he would be the greatest player ever
@ppoint432
@ppoint432 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim Brave I agree. I think Wilt just didn't play good enough when it really mattered. Sucks that he was stuck on that Philly team for so long.
@____2080_____
@____2080_____ 2 жыл бұрын
I’d place those two teams where Wilt Chamberlain won the championship to beat any era’s champions the NBA has ever produced. Only Michael Jordan can claim to be a greater player. And I’m talking about players in their prime. Lou Al cinder prime versus chamberlains prime, I’m picking Chamberlain
@user-ol6nv6wf1q
@user-ol6nv6wf1q 2 жыл бұрын
And y'all say Rob Parker is a fool...listen to Chris when it's a Steph topic... he goes completely brainless
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