na lol. there are plenty of users using the default output.

Yeah... 20 years in, doing it wrong the whole time. lol.

@@milescarr9490 lol 😂

Not just you. I’ve been using Reason for more than 20 years. There are many reasons to switch to CTRL out. Two key ones are automation on the Master fader, and, especially, monitoring the send returns. I can also turn down if I’m using monitors late at night without touching the automated fader

Hi I do understand This My First question IS to where you will connect the master Out ? Because the master Out needs to have a Task AS an Output the master Out can BE used to send thru the master section and Other devices to improve the Sound After the Main Mix The question IS If you can hear IT in the Control room Out because ITS Happening at the Same Output so you need to Bring the master Out on a new Mixer Channel or sth Hopefully you can answers the complete question So the master Out shouldnt be touched because This will BE the Output your final result will BE recorded from on for example Tape Plugins Other So in the end you realy need a Splitter to Bring the master Out mirror Control room to Headphones and to the Main Out for the Monitors of your audio Interface Only This way you can adjust your Headphones Sound to your Monitors and EQ the Headphones in your audio Interface software Chanel plus your Studio Monitors wont BE Affected cause Signal is Split If This IS right , the master Out fader of any Professional Platinum recording Studio ist almost never been touched Only If increasing loudness on the Control room volume wont BE enough plus the loudness of what you can increase on the master Out ( Here AS written befor you can Set limiters And preamps to increase high amounts of loudness ) in This Moment i See No Other Logic about IT than Just to manipulate a finished Mix on the master Output without changing anything in the reason Mixer I found Out about This ☝️i mentioned befor The master Out is only for live Performance or recording your Mix so Routing This master to an Independent circle Means you Play the master Live Like Theres a Show and you are listen Back in Headphones or Like in a Reporters room in Monitors over the Control room , and the master is going to the Main Pa The Second Routing is that you have external mastering or effect Section or you want to use Plugins in reason that you want to Playback your Mix thru But IT wont BE Playback over your Monitor system unless you Switch the Routing in reason ITS easy to Put your Control room cable Connection to another Output for short time and the master connected to a Plugin Setup you created you Put into the Main Out of the audio Interface To me This master Out is only making Sense in live Performance where you need to listen Back and Control the Mix and you will have a Pa thats different and needs acdifferent amp and system To use mastering plugings and these Things you can Just connect IT to the Control room or using sends and Returns So in This Case the master Out and Control room Just is Not making Sense If Theres a Switch you can use to Playback the master of Control room then your able to easily compare your Mix with your master both routed in the Studio Monitors Output of the audio Interface This will make Sense to listen to a clean Signal and mastered Signal with pressing one knob

Exactly

You just said the same thing he said in his video. 🤷🏽‍♂️

It’s funny because I still see so many Reason Users pulling the master fader down though 😅 Whatever is comfortable I suppose it’s cool to experiment 😊😊

@@Chrisreedbeats hey you can bring a horse to water but you can’t make ‘em drink 😂

@@MrMarcLaflamme 😂😂😂😂

Good to know, I recently grabbed 12 and have spent the most of my time in Reason using 5, and I'm not sure if it was there yet. Thanks for watching!

I feel that! Thanks for watching! How often do you get around to making music? I’ve been preoccupied these days

Appreciate you! How do you use it exactly? Like I set it up in this video?

This output has no affect on mixing or eq’ing. It’s a duplicate output with a dedicated volume control.

@@Chrisreedbeats yea I use it the same way...I seen it on LearnReason YT channel

@@MrMarcLaflamme I think the idea is using it rather than the master out to increase your volume during the mix session without increasing the actual projects volume, thereby giving you the “ what if we played this as loud as possible” without screwing up your mix. It doesn’t make your mix or Eq better, it just helps you to monitor your music better. As Colt capperune says, “as soon as you start a mix session you begin to lose perspective on your mix” Hopefully this monitoring system saves time and thereby saving perspective.

@@Chrisreedbeats your audio interface or speakers or operating system have volume controls, use them, it’s the same thing. Then you don’t have to recable anything.

Man Reason is so cool for this!

That is the first use case that I thought about. I always just crank my instruments volume up way too high then have to mix them back down LOL

Yep that’s my problem still 😂

4 Sho!

A true student of the game! Glad to hear it. I read the manual and watch the videos but only when I really don't understand or know something. Just happened to get curious about the control room out. Thanks for watching!

HAHAAHA thanks for watching!

I haven't used it enough to know the difference yet LOL hope it helps!

Awww man this not the video for new to Reason, I’m glad to have you on but make sure to check out some of my other videos. This one kinda out there!! LOL 😂 LOTS OF TUTORIALS ON DIFFERENT EFFECTS AND INSTRUMENTS

Glad to hear it! Hope it helps!

DJW good people like you is why I do what I do!

@@Chrisreedbeats Say Chris, God willing, you're on your way to blowing up BIGTIME BRO. Stay focus, humble, and alert for a lot of BS that comes with being great at what you do. Thanks again for letting us music lovers inside of your life. Peace Always!

@@Chrisreedbeats Thank you Sir..

Now I like that tip!! Very useful!! Thank you!

How do you set that up??? I think I have an idea, but you sound like you've implemented this before 😅

@@Chrisreedbeats the Reason channel has a video about it, but I can't post a link in comments. It's called "Advanced Mastering - Focusing the Master Bus Compressor" You simply cable the control room out to a filter and remove the frequencies you want the master bus compressor to ignore. Route this filter to the master bus side chain input and ensure the Key button is enabled. That should do the trick. This technique is normally used to remove low frequencies.

Hey there. Great use for sure. An alternative: parallel compression in the master chain.

@@atmadsen love it man building on the idea dope

Nice! What I love to hear. I think some of the other videos might be even more helpful than this one. Hope you stick around to catch a few! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

That's a good tip! I need another midi controller with more surface controls, My 88 keyboard doesn't have many and the ones it does will not work correctly with Reason.

@@Chrisreedbeats That’s weird. I’ve found reason to be the best at taking orders from all of my controllers

Good point! 👍🏾👍🏾

Thanks for coming by 🙏🏾🙏🏾

Good to know I will keep that in mind!

My pleasure!

Yes, that’s a very important point about rewiring control room to ch1&2! I always have my master wired to 1&2 and control the monitor level from my audio interface instead, so that the master out is always unaffected by my monitor levels.

I don’t have any amps to boost sound so this helps me 🤷🏾‍♂️. Plus when I’m on my laptop the extra dbs really come in handy. I think the Scarlett is cool but I always end up cranking the headphone volume to the max. I have decent headphones as well but idk just need a bit more volume sometimes. I’m learning a lot from all the comments though please keep going. And thanks for watching and contributing means a lot 😁

@@Chrisreedbeats Having to crank the headphone output on your Scarlett is probably more to do with what Ohms your headphones are. I have a pair of Beyerdynamic DT990Pro 250 Ohm and I have to crank the volume much higher than on my AudioTechnica ATH-M50X which I believe are only 80 Ohms - I have the same interface as you.

@@Tyblubearboy hmmm we have the same headphones and interface. Do you ever feel like you need to crank your Audio TMH50x volume up or do they sound pretty good at lower volumes?

@@Chrisreedbeats the Audio-Technicas sound good at lower volumes as their impedance is only 38 Ohms apparently. So the lower the impedance the less you have to drive them. Plus they are a closed back headphones so block out outside noise. Unlike my dt-990 which are open back. On the Scarlett, the headphone knob I usually have between 9 o’clock & 11 o’clock position with the ATs and between 1 o’clock and 3 o’clock with the DT990s

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Not Quasar in the comments!!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 I’m constantly learning from your channel bro

@@Chrisreedbeats Glad to hear that, man! Subscribed!

Blaze! Good to see you! What kind of hardware effects??

😂😂😂

Awesome! Thanks for watching!

Sure, I agree with you. Reason is the kind of program that "how it's done" is the most intriguing and special part :-) There are so many patching and cabling options and it's just that extra layer of functionality that makes it extraordinary.

hmmm I have never tried the windows 10 screen recorder. Might have to give that a look through.

@@Chrisreedbeats It captures in HD I believe and audio is identical to what you hear in your headphones.

Hell naw that upped my game big tyme

Good tip 👍🏾🙏🏾💪🏾

Thanks for watching!

Best comment I have seen in a while 😂😂😂

Isn't Reason amazing!

How to add DAW Audio to OBS FAST! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNSPiq98srqnZ5c.html This video shows the set up

Naw I use my control room out for OBS audio. Just thought this was interesting to read it in Reason manual. You have to reroute to main audio output on export

Patch work and patch cables. FUN FUN FUN!

Awesome glad to hear it 🙏🏾

@@Chrisreedbeats Thanks ive only just had Reasons+ for a few weeks and works great in use with Bitwig. Cheers mate...

Not exactly. You want to use the input knobs for gain staging, but still use the volume faders for mixing. The reason is because the input knobs control the signal strength of the incoming signal, and then any processing you want is applied to it. Then, the volume faders control the volume AFTER the processing takes place. If you have a part that you don't want to be very loud, but you still want to have effects on it, it is better to apply the effects to the strong signal and then turn it down. Many effects are optimized for strong input signals.

Thanks for watching!

@@Chrisreedbeats 👍

Well yes and no. Most times your pc master volume will max out and not push your music beyond a certain level. With the control room out you can push the full volume of the track even further for playback purposes.

I only saw this error when doing a lot of automation? I think it can be different for everyone’s computer. If something is preventing you from getting the result you want then absolutely do this work arounds. I would replicate the project file and see if I get the error every time or maybe it was just a bug. Also your midi controller can play a part in it. Lots of different things.

@@Chrisreedbeats the midi controller I use with reason is the Nektar Panorama P4 and I am now looking to get a 25key midi controller whenever travel I can bring a midi controller and my laptop fire up reason and work on music on the go.I was looking at the alesis vi25 midi controller and the arturia minilab midi controller.

Hey answered this question on my live stream last night Reason News, Q&A and Review Your Music Live! | 2024 kzfaq.info3RRKVdICv8E?feature=share

Yea the metronome is not in the Control room volume unfortunately hahaha, maybe its not "right" after all

That is good, I've occasionally read the manual here and there LOL!

Yea I agree. But it’s not me that says it, it’s the manual 😂😂 What I’m realizing from great users and commenters as yourself is that those who can afford really great audio interfaces won’t need this control room out or they will be able to take advantage of having multiple outputs on their interface. I don’t know what it’s like to have multiout interfaces or multiple types of studio monitors to listen to, or a variety of types of gear. Maybe one day 🙏🏾 Thanks for watching!

@@Chrisreedbeats I used the Scarlette that you mention in your video, however Im on Catalina and for one reason or the other catalina and the 2I2 are not working great. But I also use Behringer Xr18 which allows me to do so many things with reason. However ever reason does not more than one audio interface at a time, which would have been awesome if it did. I think Reason is one of the best DAWs out there, but the company let so many ppl stranded with lack of VST3 support and not updating the sequencer with basic functions that are in other DAWs that most ppl now seem to be using Reason as a VST plugin in another DAW.

Update your Reason to the latest version.