I’m literally deciding between the Santos and Speedmaster right now. This video helped me decide I need both.
@mitchmitchell95882 жыл бұрын
That’s the best answer!
@stephengarratt80272 жыл бұрын
🙂
@jonathonmunro22432 жыл бұрын
I was the same, wanted the Large Blue Dial Santos or Speedmaster, I went for the Speedmaster in the end and got the bracelet and Fabric Bracelet to alternate
@sanjaygupta10472 жыл бұрын
Speedmaster all day.
@johnnylam92862 жыл бұрын
@@jonathonmunro2243 I have a Speedmaster and now decide to buy a Santos Large. Just choosing between blue dial or classic one!
@mitchmitchell95882 жыл бұрын
Thomas: Great video. Your version of "value retention" is a smart approach to collecting for almost everybody. Work hard, buy a great watch, enjoy it AND, if you have to sell it, break even (or maybe even realize a slight profit). The selection of watches fits this sane approach to collecting, and shows that it can be done at a wide range of price points. Fantastic content. One minor point: the new Alpinists are pretty amazing.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Mitch! 😊🙌
@mitchellglazer21872 жыл бұрын
The santos is pure class, love the easily changeable straps of the new model.
@costelloandsilke73212 жыл бұрын
The Zenith Rainbow Flyback is a massively underrated watch complete with El Primero movement that can be bought affordably and will hold its value.
@bencowen692 жыл бұрын
I’d choose the Santos, such a classy piece and I have a feeling the values going to surge in the next few years.
@matthewross14942 жыл бұрын
If you can’t afford to have a watch drop in value you shouldn’t buy it. Never bought a car, phone, jewellery etc expecting it to retain its value.
@Flexiboy Жыл бұрын
Everyone has to go through difficult times at some point. The point here is that you can afford easily a watch at some point and have the need for liquidity in the future for any reason. Having something that expensive that holds its value is pretty enjoyable as it is still representing a lot of money for more than 90% pf the people
@cdb50012 жыл бұрын
as a Speedy owner, I love the Santos for it's look, history and bracelet. However, my most recent "value retention" move was to sell my SARB033 for a tidy profit and upgrade to the much rarer and pricier SARB045.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
And? Happy with it? 😊
@mardiv86142 жыл бұрын
Great Vid. Thank you. Some others to consider , budget friendly, Heuer Carrera CS3110, Seiko SARB033, Universal Geneve Polarouter, Omega Seamaster 300 ref. 2254, Glycine airman No1 36mm, amazing, classic, iconic watches that holds value pretty well for each category chrono, everyday, vintage, diver, GMT part of my personal collection
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!✌
@Azzmelater Жыл бұрын
To say the santos isn’t a popular watch is an understatement
@asura25452 жыл бұрын
The best is to buy what you like, when the time is right. Don't think of selling something you love before even getting it...
@WrongTimeWatch2 жыл бұрын
I could have purchased a Santos 2 years ago for $5,800. I bought a Tudor BB58 instead. Still have the BB58, which helped me get the opportunity to but a Submariner from the AD.
@lcm60912 жыл бұрын
Refreshing, to see a video featuring watches that are attainable by the average collector. It is frustrating to be offered countless videos about watches that are available to only the “investors “. Would love to see more! Thanks
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
Watches shouldn’t be seen as investments. If you want to invest in something invest in real estate, the stock market or a business. You will make a lot more money. That said, buy what you like, try not to overpay and hold onto it and pass it to your kids. A good quality watch will hold some of its value in case you go belly up, but your purchase should not be based on that.
@mahmoudghoneim80042 жыл бұрын
This is the watch hobby as we used to know and love.
@valentinolupi2432 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I wasn't expecting an alpinist in that list
@eddieg8492 жыл бұрын
The Red Band looks really nice on that Santos
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes!
@macakgarfild28962 жыл бұрын
Omega apollo 17 45 anniversary, Blancpiain 50fathoms bathyschape, Rolex datejust
@sinafunke34492 жыл бұрын
Nice Clip and 3 Watches that s worth it money and not a Rolex. I like the Santos most!
@danielcanizales7312 жыл бұрын
I will buy a Santos and not care if it dropped to worthless. It is such an iconic, timeless, beautiful piece in my mind. Just like my Seamaster, it enchanted me and I'm hopping when I buy a Santos it lives up to my dreams as the seamaster did
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@3rr32 жыл бұрын
Santos for me as well
@jeromef2001 Жыл бұрын
Please,what santos model? There is so many variation...
@guszam1036 Жыл бұрын
WILL THE TWO TONE SANTOS MEDIUM HOLD IT'S VALUE? OR ONLY SS?
@RedwoodAggie2 жыл бұрын
The SARB017 is 39.5mm, but it's still a great size, that wears smaller than one might think, especially on strap. I personally love my blue SPB089 variant, which is well north of the $600 MSRP I paid, but that is because only 1,959 were made. I'm glad you included it on your list, which was unexpected. The Speedmaster price now vs. then price almost makes me want to shed a tear, but I didn't have the money to even consider one back then.
@malcolmwordsworth46382 жыл бұрын
I have already chosen. Speedy 3861 is in the collection. I have an anti Roman numerals thing going on, but for which, the Santos would be a consideration.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Good choice!!!
@diversityhobbit2 жыл бұрын
Gotta adjust for inflation
@AF1pice2 жыл бұрын
Great video content without bringing up the out of control big 3. Even when the markets level back off the small break evens are great. Like bond funds for the stock market.
@AmithVasanthaKumar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, great insights. My favourite is the Santos as well and it's on my 'to-buy' list. Hope I get one soon and be able to experience it, later review it as well 😉
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DiGuliy2 жыл бұрын
I am between Santos and Speedmaster, but probably I will go with Santos. The first wristwatch ever. I think you missed the fist ever automatic chronograph from Rolex group. The famous Big Block or their last generation with some of them known as the Tigers (it is the year of the tiger). Like Daytonas but more affordable (at the moment) and with a nice history behind.
@sleepyfishYTPF2 жыл бұрын
There is a plenty of supply for Santos and Speedmaster. Those are not investment for sure. Tudor is not investment as well for the same reason.
@aryanyadav56542 жыл бұрын
Make a video on Ap, Pateks and Rolex values too would love to watch that
@gmotionedc54122 жыл бұрын
The Tudor BB58 blue dial. It will be a classic in 25 years.
@farakhlatif24212 жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas, Great video as always 👍. Can you advise where on Chrono24 we get access to the historical price charts as shown in this video ? Keep up the great work 👍
@mitchmitchell95882 жыл бұрын
I think they are usually on the bottom of watch listings. Some watches don’t have enough data, so no charts.
@farakhlatif24212 жыл бұрын
@@mitchmitchell9588 Thanka buddy. But the price chart that we do see is differs from the ones Thomas has shown in the video. Maybe the some of these price charts are only available to the trade ??
@mitchmitchell95882 жыл бұрын
@@farakhlatif2421 Sorry about that. Hey Thomas, share more of that inside info with us!
@farakhlatif24212 жыл бұрын
@@mitchmitchell9588 Yes Thomas share the secrets 😁
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys :) We used the charts from our chrono24 watch collection. There are no different charts. It depends on the model, how much data will be shown, as Mitch Mitchell said before. If you login to your chrono24 account and add a specific watch to your watch collection, you can check the price development of almost all watches. If you need any help, wen can assist you guys for sure. Cheers guys! ✌😊
@ol63092 жыл бұрын
The Santos is an Icon, great video but your off on the Santos
@tuttorial-thehumaninvoluti61552 жыл бұрын
Great Video Thomas! Speedy & Alpinist are my favorite
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@mrbud85242 жыл бұрын
2 watches Missing in that list is the Heuer Monaco Calbrie 11 blue dail & the Omega Seamaster 42m 300
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Mr Bud!✌
@bo55ola2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved a santos
@RolexNumero15 ай бұрын
Cartier Santos Galbée ❤❤❤
@jankaatz66312 жыл бұрын
PLEASE MORE STUFF LIKE THIS
@han79022 жыл бұрын
Tons of watches' price went off the chart due to big inflation since 2020. For example, glycine airman d-c4. This is pre Invicta model that 2 years ago you can get one for sub 400 dollars in gray market. Since then it is sold out everywhere and price went beyond 1000 dollars used. Watches didn't double the price with 3 years is not worth mentioning.
@teckyannsim76972 жыл бұрын
There are some Grand Seikos hold their value too, some even increase like whirlpool or peacock
@danielwilschetz14904 күн бұрын
Do you prefer a submariner or a vc royal eagle?
@klaassiersma48922 жыл бұрын
I love my speedy pro,I'm not selling by the way. The Santos is a beauty too, my next watch? who knows.
@istvantoth74312 жыл бұрын
What were you wearing in this vid mate?
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Jaeger-LeCoultre Powermatic
@tbd16132 жыл бұрын
How can you say that the Santos hasnt received Icon status when they have been around for a 100 years??
@keithalldis Жыл бұрын
I have the speedy, no intentions of selling but nice to know that it’s not a depreciating asset.
@wingman4272 жыл бұрын
They are all nice watches. Like them all, however if I had to choose one it would be the Speedmaster only because I a big fan of the that watch. Would be be happy to own any of the 3 you mentioned. Very much liked the video.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@jeremyestevinho94252 жыл бұрын
Santos for sure
@unipenlabsco74792 жыл бұрын
Nope, it's a watch. If you want to invest - there are stock markets, real estate etc. Buy what you really want, enjoy it. If you are happy you will make much more money. The life is too short and what is the point everyone to wear Rolex, Santos or Speedy. Come on, people. Don't ruin your true desire because you want something and this will loose value. If you follow that "investment" logic soon you will wear second hand clothes and eat only junk food.
@m4jqp2 жыл бұрын
do the Santos' screw heads not lining up trigger anyone elses OCD?
@abdolreza82 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos. Have a question for you: Is it better to own a Longines solid gold watch (elegant collection) or an Omega De Ville (stainelss steel) for roughly the same price? Which one holds its value? Really appreciate your answer.
@francisrobindaine-duchesne60952 жыл бұрын
I'd choose the Omega Speedmaster 145.022 because it's the one I have. From 1973. Bought it for 4000$ US in 2020, but has service hands. I love it.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Francis! 🙌✌
@suigong3841 Жыл бұрын
Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso and Master Control
@borjastick2 жыл бұрын
Santos all day long. They age well and look great if a little beaten up too.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@luisvanegas10392 жыл бұрын
What reference numbers is the watch at 3:50?
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
It's a 145.022 Speedmaster Professional
@adistancu65452 жыл бұрын
Another good video !
@carzakone3332 жыл бұрын
I live in Macao which is totally a different story here in Macao and Hong Kong...
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
How? Can you explain?
@wrenside2 жыл бұрын
i have the Santos and am pleasantly surprised by its retained value. Love the watch. and the Santos doesn't look like all the other toolsy watches and that's a good thing. oh, and you get the red box. :) thanks for an informative video.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing and for watching! ✌
@hbennettesq772 жыл бұрын
Have you had any major issues with scratches on the bezel? I am looking to purchase a Santos soon, but I am worried it will be a scratch magnet given how I wear my watches. Thanks and enjoy
@SK-xg9rs2 жыл бұрын
Speedy forever 🔥
@watchingbourbon75122 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks!!
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Cooksmaster016 ай бұрын
correction. the first pilot watch is santos dumont which is a completely different watch to the cartier santos
@Chrono24Official6 ай бұрын
Here's what the Cartier website says about the collection (including both Santos-Dumont and Santos de Cartier): "The Santos watch was conceived by Louis Cartier in 1904 to help aviators tell time mid-flight. Since then, this pioneering wristwatch has become an icon, defined by its geometric dial, harmoniously curved horns and signature exposed screws."
@cexon93582 жыл бұрын
Exellent video. What do you think about Vacheron Constantin Royal Eagle? Best regards!
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ceda! If you check it in the chrono24 watch collection, you can see that the price went up from circa $7,500 to $9,200 within the last three years. Not a bad performance i would say! Cheers
@Smooth__JB2 жыл бұрын
My choice is the Santos. It is on my list for my next birthday gift to myself. HaHaHa!
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
amazing idea 😅😍
@ajmufc2415 Жыл бұрын
I’ll be getting it for my birthday next month but trying to decide between speedy or santos still
@diegomervich71772 жыл бұрын
Would you put in the list also the Speedmaster co axial chronometer 38mm? :)
@MadMan-cp6tn2 жыл бұрын
Buy what you like and dont listen to a watch salesman! This is not really ethical, guys...
@jonathansmith2832 жыл бұрын
? > do you attend watches & wonders Geneva ? thank you
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Yes we planned to visit W&W this year. And of course we planned a lot of content with different brands there :) If you have special wishes, let us know!
@cosmofox Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a take on the Cartier Roadster?
@maxs.67432 жыл бұрын
Best video so far😜⌚🎉👏
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😅
@gabrielsavi86296 ай бұрын
Speed all Day
@J-ms4hw6 ай бұрын
Why would the price go up when you buy direct from Cartier for 6 grand
@______-im2cn2 жыл бұрын
definitely would never ever wear a seiko. i would say the omega.
@_Peter_.2 жыл бұрын
IMHO Speedmaster .005 Big Box Speedmaster Broad Arrow 35945000 Speedmaster 125th Thanks for the video!
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Peter!
@ianandrew70102 жыл бұрын
Brought a Speedy has the Santos deprecate more 😳
@mkm60732 жыл бұрын
Speedy will be coming soon to the collection, but a new one. Santos is also on the list somewhere down the line, probably next year..
@gubberfranzen2 жыл бұрын
Still haven't even taken my SARB0017 out of the packaging. Been sitting untouched for 3 years now.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Why not? You don't wanna wear it?
@gubberfranzen2 жыл бұрын
@@Chrono24Official I have an addiction with watches. It's embarrassing to admit how many I got now. The SARB is sitting there to remind me that I don't need any more watches, but it doesn't really work.
@cy46242 жыл бұрын
@@gubberfranzen I get you. I have over 3 dozen that I likea lot but hasn't even made it out of the box because I have way too many. Need to thin out but opposite is happening.
@gubberfranzen2 жыл бұрын
@@cy4624 Thanks C Y. It's good to know that I'm not struggling alone. I'm a candidate for a rehab for sure. I've put some of mine in a box and if I haven't missed them in six months, they need to move on.
@cy46242 жыл бұрын
@@gubberfranzen I need rehab badly.. it's stressful knowing I have so many it'll take a few lifetimes just to rotate through them and wear them more than a few times...just the servicing cost every 5 or so years is literally a house.. I have to go all or none...every time I tell my self I'll thin out, end up getting more and more that I can't even wear...
@elix90992 жыл бұрын
Tudor BB58
@arsenal10141014 Жыл бұрын
Santos is the one you want
@dmoneystatus2 жыл бұрын
Thomas, the santos with the red bracelet is unbelievable! Where can that be had?
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! You can find some of them on our plattform! If you need further help, let us know!
@prycesean78912 жыл бұрын
Seiko ssa425 grail watch for my budget haha
@antonherold Жыл бұрын
The Cartier Santos has reached icon level
@jonathanJVIImusoke2 жыл бұрын
Santos and Speedy
@baronsilverbaron75711 ай бұрын
Roger Dubuis Easy Diver
@Wienerblutable2 жыл бұрын
In Perfect condition, that means u have almost not worn it/box and papers. But this r watches u wear all the time. I sold on your site u always have to lower the price u calculate. And it’s Rolex omega breitling AP that sells in a few days with less known expensive brands it’s a hard sale. But u have a good side, not that I complain. But if u want to keep value only way to be sure is steel rolex
@RjTheCrashout Жыл бұрын
Good watches are assets bro 10k on a watch is smart af, while 10k on a car is a asset
@ajmufc2415 Жыл бұрын
I’m confused what do you mean by this
@craigriley98926 ай бұрын
Why buy a watch with the intention of selling it. If you are thinking of selling before you buy, you don't really want it.
@eljuancho2 Жыл бұрын
Any watch that have high demand or gets discontinued and people want it, they go up in price.
@mrfaceless2697Ай бұрын
Seiko
@JayandSarah2 жыл бұрын
The online watch boom is about to end up like the other "assets" it pretended to be. The moment this stuff started coming out with charts like stock tickers you could see the pumping of tires that was going on. IT's been amusing to say the least to watch play out.
@petemorbius39362 жыл бұрын
gd info
@t82832872 жыл бұрын
That Santos is disgusting
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@t82832872 жыл бұрын
@@Chrono24Official because compared to the others it looks hideous
@unipenlabsco74792 жыл бұрын
I was really excited and I expected much more from Chrono24. The same topics as everywhere. It looks like the watch community has the same opinion for every watch or brand: Everyone hates Hublot. Everyone is disappointed by TagHeuer. Everyone wants Rolex. Everyone is looking about the retention value. And of course everyone wants the dot over 90. I have Omega, Rolex, Bulova, Doxa, TagHeuer, Oris and even Pagani Design watches. And I don't care about the money. I enjoy every single watch of my collection. Nothing really exciting here. Too predictable. Sorry. Not interested anymore.
@Chrono24Official2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Which topics would you be interested in? Is there any specific brand for example you want to hear more? Cheers
@unipenlabsco74792 жыл бұрын
@@Chrono24Official What about the micro-brands? Not presented by Chrono24 but based on your personal taste? What about the big failures? I am pretty sure it will be interesting to watch and listen about the wrong steps on the major brands. Zenith with El Primero, the Rolex quartzes, etc. The "homages" between the big brands (not only Hublot) is also good topic. The rise and fails of the giants - Longines in the past and Longines in the present. What is the process in the watch factories to promote apprentices to masters. Please, I love watches because they are not money. They are piece of history and masterpieces as well.
@martinlutherking65502 жыл бұрын
if this is the type of stuff that interests you about watches, then im sorry to tell you: this hobby isn't for you, go back to being working class and play games on PS/xbox like you suppose to..
@ithehappy12 жыл бұрын
Yeah enough of you all. Watch and investment never can be associated together. Unsubscribed and from email as well.
@AMNBvideos Жыл бұрын
literally all these watches have gone down, bad video
@Chrono24Official Жыл бұрын
If you look at the pricing graphs for the current generations of these models, you'll see they're stable or even going up YoY (Dec '21 - Dec '22). For example: Cartier Santos WSSA0029 Seiko Alpinist SARB017 Omega Speedmaster 145.022 Rolex Datejust 36 or 41 IWC Top Gun Chronograph IW389101