Meant to have it out earlier, but I had to re-render unfortunately. I really hope that you guys enjoy! I'm closing in on 100,000 subscribers and I cannot thank you guys enough for the massive opportunity. I will have more stuff out this month. All of the evidence will be in the description below! To debunk some idiotic "counterarguments", I'll lay them out here. 1. "genki does not work the same as ki/genki is not the same as ki" Okay? We never once stated or implied that they are the same thing. The spirit bomb is derived from life energy which has proven to be exponentially powerful and regardless of the source, it's still an energy-based attack that has destructive power. It's stated by King Kai that if it's misused, the spirit bomb can destroy a planet, and we know that it has the capability to kill even those who are pure of heart. Gohan & the other Z-fighters giving their genki would provide higher results than a standalone energy attack. Even after giving their genki, Goku stated that it wouldn't be enough to kill Buu. Energy from Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and trillions+ humanoids across the Afterlife, Namek, & Earth would in fact yield higher levels of power than even Gohan's standard ki alone, and nothing contradicts that. The Daizenshuu LITERALLY says that it has immeasurable power, proving it's superior to Super Buu & Gohan, and it can even be argued that it means it'd be above Vegito & Buuhan as well. If genki wasn't exponential or more effective than "normal" ki in some situations, then why was Zamasu cut by a genki-based sword despite receiving energy from characters who are far weaker than SSJB Goku? Why was Goku's Universe 7 spirit bomb far superior in RAW POWER to his own SSJB Kaioken x20 Kamehameha? Exactly. 2. "but Goku or Ultimate Gohan could have killed Kid Buu." pm1.narvii.com/6582/8dc87b9a8e09a29b6758a2e0916a873449e79233_hq.jpg vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/f6/Ebe0c681127bb62-a-nw-p.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/400?cb=20181231082722 vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/c/c7/3902aab5fa313b6-a-nw-p.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/400?cb=20181231082822 Uhh, no. Goku & Vegeta DID theorize that a full-power Kamehameha could have vaporized Buu, but as the fight is dragging on, Goku says that Kid Buu is toying with him and even says that they should have fused. The guides do say that Goku & Kid Buu were fighting blow for blow and were on equal footing initially, keyword, initially, because Buu was holding back during that fight. The Daizenshuu says that even a full-power SSJ3 Goku could not beat him. Additionally, it's confirmed in a V-Jump guide that SSJ3 Goku is least equal to Ultimate Gohan, meaning that Gohan would also not be able to defeat him. Which, given the plausible zenkais Goku got in the manga, it makes sense. 3. "Gohan was stated to be the strongest non-fused fighter." When? I dug through several interviews and guides and that has never, EVER, been stated. It's just a fan rumor, which although does have credibility within the context of the series, Goku has several sources & statements to imply that he is at least relative, if not stronger than Gohan, even within the manga. It doesn't really matter for ranking Buu anyways. 4. "Spirit Bomb is inconsistent and that was just for plot" Okay? It's not my job to excuse why something works or doesn't work within the series, I'm not the writer. I'm merely trying to make sense of the plot and try to explain things that I can infer from what's stated in the series. Whether it's plot or not, what happened, happened, and there's no changing that. 5. "Kid Buu was simply more dangerous, not stronger" Although this is the case within the manga, the anime literally states over 5 times that he is the most powerful and strongest Buu, which is confirmed by a guide too. Despite the contradictions, that's what was stated. There's no contesting it.

Obviously the strongest Buu is the pink one. End of discussion.

I love how some political videos will make several claims then give no sources while these guys provide a damn library of sources

"Kid Buu is the strongest" "Hell no! Buuhan is the strongest" Me, an itellectual: "Ahem, Farmbuu with shotgun is the strongest"

i think buuhan is the strongest but kid buu is the most dangerous. he is completely feral

Y'all not putting respect on buuiccolo's name

The community needed this video.

Goku poops himself when he has to fight super buu and wants to fuse with Gohan. Goku crushes potara earrings when going up against kid buu

Buuhan might have had more power, but Kid Buu's lack of sanity and self preservation made him far more dangerous.

It was obvious that buuhan was the strongest form in terms of absolute power. Kid Buu is simply the most sadistic and dangerous, that's why the supreme kai had an unbridled fear of kid buu. He was pure concentrated destruction

Expectation: Buu's forms ranking Reality: Phd in DBZ Buu Saga

Come on ppl in that same anime Goku was scared to fight super buu he nearly try to avoid it and try to get gohn fight him when he felt confident against kid buu like come on

Regardless who the strongest is, kid buu is my favorite buu.

Can't believe there are people who still believe Kid Buu is stronger than Gohan Absorbed Super Buu.

When you say that "Cell was in the multi solar system range" that would mean that Teen Gohan was a little above him for blasting back his Kamehameha.

When it comes to super buu vs kid buu, I compare how well ssj3 Goku does against them. On one hand, against super buu Goku thinks he (even with vegeta) has no chance. Whereas against kid buu, he was at least somewhat confident to beat him.

Gokul was weakened when pushing the spirit bomb, this is emphasized when goku gets his power restored then SUDDENLY he shoves the bomb because the gen kai needed force behind it which goku lacked till his power restoration. Using the spirit bomb to infer kid buu is more powerful is literal subhuman reasoning and then using super which has ROSHI shoving base majin buu people around is ridiculous

When Old Kai gave his life to Goku to bring him back from the dead, did that give him a Zenkai? I mean in the ANIME, Vegeta said after he was revived on Namek; “Since I’ve been brought back from death, my power has been increased dramatically!” Would a godly being giving his life to Goku give him sort of insane boost???

The genki examples are pretty cool I still wanna read El Manga Legendario but its sauce is hard to find

Simple: Goku > Fat Buu Super Buu > Fat Buu Gohan > Super Buu Gohan > Super Buu + Piccolo + Goten + Trunks (not fused) Buuhan > Goku + Vegeta (not fused) Kid Buu = Goku Now way Kid Buu is stronger than Buuhan. And it doesn't matter what anime states: events are much more important than statements.

Buuhan: Goku and Vegeta needed to fuse into Vegito to stand a chance. Kid Buu: Goku with SSJ3 was going one on one and dealing damage. I mean...do you need more proof than that?

Strongest being his current self in the manga

Buuhan don’t care he is the strongest

@7:36 *TO BE FAIR:* Kid Buu wasn't resisting the Spirit Bomb itself, he was resisting Goku's Ki PUSHING the Spirit Bomb - since he was exhausted. After the wish was made, and Goku got his Ki back, the amount of Genki in the Spirit Bomb was still the same. And it pulverized Kid Buu. In the end it wasn't the Genkidama's energy that changed, it was Goku's.

This shouldn't even be a debate. Its is made very clear. Gohan buu, gotenks buu, super buu/kid buu, evil buu, majin buu(fat) . Strongest to weakest. Shouldn't be any debate. Very clear.

The waits over boys. Been so hyped for this.

Kid buu was stated to be the most dangerous not the strongest you can be very dangerous but not very strong

I don't really remember them saying or implying goku received zenkais that made him stronger when he fought kid buu. That seems like a big assumption and head canon. But I personally always thought base super buu and kid buu were around equal in power, but kid buu is more savage and ruthless and also has better regeneration abilities and can dip into it's well of power better.. I don't really think the spirit bomb is a good thing to base stuff off of though it's pretty unreliable when it comes to scaling. In the tournament of power it prob shouldn't have been as strong as it was from universe 7's fighters excluding vegeta.

Obviously the strongest is Super Buu Gohan absorbed. Kid Buu is just the most dangerous and unpredictable.

How is this even a topic? It’s basically in your face T-T

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Kid buu was literally more of a god of destruction than a god of destruction

7:53 Gohan, yes is clearly stronger than kid buu and super buu so his energy alone may have been enough, BUT Goku also didnt have the power to “unleash” the spirit bomb, which is why he was gettin pushed back and dende had to wish for gokus power to be restored

Imagine thinking Kid Boo is the strongest Yh i can imagine that, why not?

Okay but one question though SSJ Gotenks was supposed to be around SSJ3 Goku’s level. Then Gotenks went Super Saiyan 3 and still had a tough time against Super Buu. If Goku SSJ3 < Gotenks SSJ3 Gotenks SSJ3 ~ Super Buu Kid Buu ~ SSJ3 Goku Then shouldn’t Super Buu > Kid Buu?

9:50 The Manga clearly said the ONLY reason Kid Boo paused the spirit Bomb was because goku didn’t have enough power left to unleash the attack properly. The bomb power itself was not the factor, it was the force goku put behind the throw of the attack. And once goku was able to put enough pushing force behind it, the attack succeeded

I'm fine with a kid buu vs super buu debate, as long as we know buuhan and buutenks are stronger however one can say kid buu was able to push back the spirit bomb because goku was fatigued notice how once he got his energy back he easily won

This video changed my perspective on the Buus’ strengths, but also reaffirmed that the Buu Saga is a narrative disaster lol.

Goku told Vegeta that they can not beat Buuhan alone. That’s why Goku insisted on fusing with Vegeta. When the Supreme Kai asked Goku to fuse to fight Kid Buu he just broke the Potara earings because he believed Super Saiyan 3 was enough to beat Kid Buu. Buuhan is stronger

Thanks both of you for this vid.

Thankyouuu my god i've been waiting so long for a big youtuber to come to this conclusion too. This actually made my day haha. I totally agree with the ranking at the end. It's annoying how 95% of the fanbase call kid buu one of the weakest buu's and say that base super buu is stronger when he's not nor did the narrative imply he is :/

imagine if Buu got a zenkai boost everytime he regenerated

How I see it before the video, weakest to strongest: Mr. Buu< Grey Buu< Fat Buu< kid buu

Been waiting for a new video ;3 thanks dad

Thank you for making this video. It's very entertaining and makes the anime more sense.

THE BOY IS BACK!

buu's forms ranking ? 28 minutes long ? Here have my like from the get-go

appreciate the time you put into this video and made good points!!

Excellent collab 😎✌️

Interesting didn't know the solar systems are a lot bigger than ours.

theres no way on King Kai's planet that Kid Buu is the strongest... i mean, Buuhan would have MURDERED Goku or Vegeta... yet they can stand up to Kid Buu and not get totally killed? i will say that Kid Buu, is more DANGEROUS, he dont care about fighting, if he gets bored, fuck it, he'll just go BOOM BOOM.

Yessssss been waiting for this

Happy 100K Chuck

Bro you’re so close to 100k❤️

So in the manga Buuhan is the strongest because he is a fused character, in the anime Kid Buu is the strongest because of plot. Makes sense.

I...completely agree. Most people don't have these views and you guys show it clearly. Nice👍

Bro you did it! Congrats on 100k subscribers!!!

early congrats on that 100k man been a long road

That's like saying kid buu can fight vegeto and we seen ssj3 stand up to kid buu sooooo that's hard to believe

I randomly stumbled upon your channel today...I've been watching for 3hrs straight now. Excellent work and I'm definitely glad I happened upon your work. Really enjoy, especially the Dragonball videos...I enjoy it, but didn't get into it until later in my life so I'm really behind on my lore knowledge. Thanks!!

oh I've seen the twitter arguments. This is gonna be a good video! Keep up the great work!

Chuck is back! Hell yeah!!! BTW. Gonna guess Buuhan is the strongest with Buutenks being right behind him.

I always look at this conversation in terms of the definition of power. You can say that Buuhan is stronger, which is what I believe. But, Kid Buu doesn’t restrain himself. So, in combat one can assume Buuhan until he fought and nearly died to Vegito held back his ki. However, Kid Buu was always at full throttle. Like an animal compared to a fighter. Buuhan limited himself to an extent, as it’s shown the personality affects Buu. Kid Buu however just wants to play Murder time.

Excellent video thanks chuck. I like how you did the SETH cut takes lol

People arguing that kid buu is stronger than buhan? Internet never ceases to amaze me

Ah yes finally an upload which answers my question

Was lowkey hoping for some coverage on the video game forms that were introduced, even just as a little aside. That's Buu with Babidi absorbed, Buu with Dabura absorbed, Janembu, etc.

Anyone else miss the days of Chuck and Seth collabing on every one of each other's vids? They were always great! It's sad they don't seem to talk anymore.

Yeah Super buu is definitely stronger then Kid buu. Also makes no sense to say Goku got some Zenkai boosts when nothing was shown of that and it is iffy at best and your using head canon for a very inconsistent spirit bomb attack that selectively effect the enemies it goes after. Gohan at the end of the buu saga was the strongest unfused character.

I always thought of it as kid Buu not exactly being the strongest, but the most dangerous due to having no restraints, buuhan and buutenks being stronger but not as dangerous due to being able to contemplate actions and think.

My man Chuck, you're almost at 100k I just want to say I'm happy for you my man. Congrats and you deserve it.

I'm glad you finally came around to the Buu arc characters being galaxy level :)

This one is a mind fuck I will stay away from this one this topic lol always was tough one but this is even more now. Awesome video Chuck and SSJRYU1

That's not how the spirit bomb works. It absorbs life energy, not KI

Nah Buutenks had all the drip so he's automatically the strongest.

Now this puts a smile on my face.

Maybe the strongest buu was the friends we made along the way So kid buu

That is the dumbest thing to conclude. What is the point of having a fusion using Potara earrings that makes the two Saiyans the most powerful being ever known at that time? And we are talking about a Buu who has a Fat Buu, two kid Saiyans, an adult Saiyan more powerful than his father or equal to him and a powerful Super Namekian. And that is far weaker than Kid Buu? I don't care how much talk you say. Goku could do nothing with Gotenks Buu or Mystic Buu at all. Never of them could. And now Im supposed to believe that this runt can destroy Gotenks Buu or Mystic Buu? GOoH man!

Ever remember in a Interview that Ultimate Gohan is the strongest non fused fighter and on another interview that those two ( Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks) are more powerful than SSJ3 Goku

It’s literally buuhan I’m not even watching this

People who think Kid Buu is the strongest must've forget that Goku was willing to fuse with Mr Satan forever just to gain even the smallest bit of power against Buuhan.

The Spirit Bomb argument really shouldn't be used here, as we see Beerus and Whis give energy to Goku's spirit bomb vs Jiren. And no, Jiren is not stronger than Whis + Berus combined.

1:59 And I already disagree he isn't the weakest he just played with everyone and was only compared as weaker to Super Buu he is stronger than Evil and Good Buu You also forgot to include Fit Buu , Grand Kai Buu , Buff Buu and Majubb

Fat Buu could be the most powerful buu if he keeps training like in the universal survival saga.

The issue with the super buu and kid buu strength comparison is the extreme fighting knowledge super buu had from absorbing piccolo, gohan and gotenks. Piccolo especially being he was one with kami here

Here b4 people are mad over kid buus placement

I’m not sure about the Spirit Bomb debate because yes it was impressive Kid Buu pushed it back, but Gohan wasn’t putting a ton of his power towards the bomb so it’s Buu holding back a move of partial genki from those who contribute not their FULL power

I literally don't understand how for everyone else fusion increases one's abilities but the anime asserts that buu absorbing people makes him weaker. why would he do it then? kid buu being the strongest makes no sense at all. Love the video , Chuck.

So super buu is made of two Kai’s but is weaker than kid buu who doesn’t have any Kai’s absorbed. I am confused

I always though Buu looked way more delicious than powerful but that is just me. He probably tastes like bubblegum

Goku being able to use the spirit bomb against kid buu wasn’t really contradicting, he just needed his energy back for him to destroy kid buu, plus saiyans are given a power boost after a big ass fight so🤷🏿‍♂️

If the Spirit Bombs energy is exponential that makes characters like Omega Shenron INCREDIBLY underrated considering it took a Universal Spirit Bomb to defeat him

Now this is a video i like. This felt like the complete package. Various sources, going beyond just statements and looking at feats. Comparing manga and anime correctly. This is the best video to cover which buu is the strongest. I 100% agree buuhan is the strongest. Also in the anime, where i think the statements moreso reference the base buu's rather than fused. And it also covers why kid buu is the strongest and most dangerous base from. Great job guys.

I feel that when they are calling Kid Buu the "strongest," it should've been written as the "most dangerous." That one change would've killed the contradiction, as Buuhan is the strongest, but he is still in control of his faculties, while in that form. Meanwhile, Kid Buu, despite being weaker than Buuhan, is more chaotic and dangerous. Kid Buu, unlike the other versions, immediately and outright decides to waste Earth, just 'cause. Honestly, I wouldn't be 100% opposed to arguing that Super Buu is stronger--even just a little--than Kid Buu; however--once again--his chaotic evil behavior makes him the most dangerous. That would also explain why Goku and Vegeta would comment about him like he's nothing, saying that they can take him, only for Kid Buu to suddenly say "know what? Fuck this." And blow up the planet, outright--no warning. Or even having the two be equal in capabilities... Again, their use of Kid Buu being "the strongest" contradicts the HELL out of the scale, but if they would've called him the most dangerous, that would've aligned perfectly. Despite Buuhan's power, he holds back until he becomes grossly enraged by Super Vegito. Kid Buu just doesn't give a shit. Unfortunately, they did refer to Kid Buu as the "strongest," and now there's unfortunately no going back, as far as the anime is concerned... 😑

I always saw Kid Buu as stronger than regular SuperBuu, Buucolo questionable. But Buutenks and Buuhan were definitely more powerful than Kid Buu

Legit extremely good powerscaling that just uses facts

Glad I went straight to the end

Monika (Ddlc) Vs Demigra (Dragonball xenoverse/heroes) Please don’t get mad

The fact that people need to know is that when goku threw the spirit bomb at kid buu Goku was heavily fatigued.Thats the only reason why kid buu was able to push back the spirit bomb.When goku got his energy back he easily destroyed kid buu

This is how the buu saga power scale goes Ssj vegito>base vegito>buuhan>buutenks>mystic gohan>Buuicolo>base super buu=ssj3 gotenks>ssj3 goku>=kid buu>evil buu>good buu>ssj2 majin vegeta=ssj2 goku>regular ssj2 vegeta>ssj2 gohan pre mystic. Anyone who believes otherwise is just dumb.