Cicero's Finest Hour (44 to 43 B.C.E.)

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Cicero, "The Philippics" | amzn.to/35EHcOe
Suetonius, "The Life of Julius Caesar" | amzn.to/2xJesHH
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Barry Strauss, "The Death of Caesar: The Story of History's Most Famous Assassination" | amzn.to/2WAUxTD
Tom Holland, "Dynasty: The Rise and Fall of the House of Caesar" | amzn.to/2zjG4n4
Adrian Goldsworthy, "Antony and Cleopatra" | amzn.to/2L8MQ1F
Anthony Everitt, "Cicero: The Life and Times of Rome's Greatest Politician" | amzn.to/3bbrKKM
Tom Holland, "Rubicon" | amzn.to/3dombKn
Adrian Goldsworthy, "Augustus" | amzn.to/3fAInmD
Anthony Everitt, "Augustus: The Life of Rome's First Emperor" | amzn.to/2Wf9CLH
Adrian Goldsworthy, "Caesar: Life of a Colossus" | amzn.to/3cfFQvU
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@cartmann94
@cartmann94 4 жыл бұрын
Also an F to Tribune Aquila, who died at the Battle of Mutina.
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@AlexanderDiviFilius
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@DarthMeteos
@DarthMeteos 3 жыл бұрын
"Why are you crying so hard, kiddo?" "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE GREEN SQUARE IS GONE AND THE PURPLE SQUARE RESPECTED HIM"
@Omar-lq3ri
@Omar-lq3ri 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@musichalloffame
@musichalloffame 3 жыл бұрын
The exact truth of this statement has shook me in to both a fit of uncontrollable laughing and the realization that I also have genuine feelings for colored squares! I can mourn for squares and laugh at the same time!
@JamesJJSMilton
@JamesJJSMilton 3 жыл бұрын
@@musichalloffame its now weird thinking these squares used to be skin having people who fought for real issues.
@program4215
@program4215 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesJJSMilton "skin having people" omg
@francesconesi7666
@francesconesi7666 3 жыл бұрын
Still, why are you crying? Green square was a lame republican.
@randomcarbonaccumulation6478
@randomcarbonaccumulation6478 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine you killed Gaius Julius Caesar and another one just arrives from Illyricum I'd be mad af
@saadselkent367
@saadselkent367 Жыл бұрын
Bro respawned
@Hugh_Morris
@Hugh_Morris Жыл бұрын
​@@saadselkent367 lmao
@roger9430
@roger9430 Жыл бұрын
@@saadselkent367 Literally respawned lmao, and Caesar's death taught Octavian exactly what not to do, pardon your enemies.
@chrish4439
@chrish4439 11 ай бұрын
​@@roger9430Yet that's exactly what he did....
@tomlxyz
@tomlxyz 10 ай бұрын
First mad, then dead
@Sarjsh
@Sarjsh 2 жыл бұрын
Octavius: "From now on call me Gaius Julius Caesar" Historians, 2000 years later: "The artist formerly known as Octavius"
Жыл бұрын
Most people actually refer to him as Augustus 😂
@lolmasterjerkit1531
@lolmasterjerkit1531 Жыл бұрын
Either way my man octavian, octavius, Augustus, giaus julius caesar* is rolling in his grave 💀💀
@leexcite2903
@leexcite2903 Жыл бұрын
Ceasar was just sooo too much of a chad for him to be mixed up by some brony
@vulpes7079
@vulpes7079 2 күн бұрын
​@@leexcite2903brony? Wtf
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 3 жыл бұрын
cicero has essentially taken over rome on like 4 seperate occasions trying to restore order. what a madlad.
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 3 жыл бұрын
Cicero wanted to restore things to a state of pre Ceasar. Cicero had no plan to fix Rome (perhaps he didn't even realize that Rome was broken). They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
@Captain-Jinn
@Captain-Jinn 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdurden3722 You're spot on. And pre-Caesar Rome is like a powder keg with a half-second left on its fuse. That's some Greek tragedy levels of irony for a man who cared so much about his Republic.
@racoon251
@racoon251 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdurden3722 cringe
@pozkodeth
@pozkodeth 3 жыл бұрын
@@racoon251 14 year old
@racoon251
@racoon251 3 жыл бұрын
@@pozkodeth cringe
@Janny890
@Janny890 4 жыл бұрын
"When in doubt march on Rome" -Caesar Family motto
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, Marius was Caesar's uncle.
@Jdp-rl6zy
@Jdp-rl6zy 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@readsomebooks666
@readsomebooks666 4 жыл бұрын
It was usually a good plan for them.
@panzerofthelake506
@panzerofthelake506 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertjarman3703 he made caesar then. Oh my god.
@neuxell
@neuxell 4 жыл бұрын
grab it by the head
@ElVindicto
@ElVindicto 4 жыл бұрын
"Cicero switched to a much more aggressive posture." What did he do? "He made a series of speeches and distributed a series of pamphlets that directly denounced Anthony." Oh snap, what else? "He sent a stern letter co-signed by the senate instructing him to stand down" Yeah, fuck him up, Cicero.
@lukaszkonsek7940
@lukaszkonsek7940 4 жыл бұрын
"The pen is mightier than the sword"
@88fibonaccisequence
@88fibonaccisequence 4 жыл бұрын
World Star!
@MitchellD249
@MitchellD249 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszkonsek7940 Unfortunately, it's difficult to wield a pen when your enemy has cut both your hands off and nailed them to the Senate speaking platform. Swords are useful in that regard.
@louisswanepoel1614
@louisswanepoel1614 4 жыл бұрын
"Stupid face = BAD"
@belland_dog8235
@belland_dog8235 4 жыл бұрын
@gillecroisd 92 According to the definition of the word, it's very possible for the pen to be, in fact, mightier than the sword. Though like most things it's all circumstancial.
@alexross1816
@alexross1816 2 жыл бұрын
Octavian's mom: Return to Rome, but hide your identity!" Octavian's step-father: "Renounce the adoption, and keep your keep your head down!" Octavian: *"WHAT'S UP, BITCHES?! JULIUS CAESAR 2: OCTAVIAN BOOGALOO IS COMING TO ROME!!!"*
@garvett6660
@garvett6660 Жыл бұрын
Octavian: *LEEEEEROOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEENKIIIIINS*
@Emil-Antonowsky
@Emil-Antonowsky Жыл бұрын
@Garvett Now, that's funny.
@masterexploder9668
@masterexploder9668 Жыл бұрын
Ultimate Leeroy Jenkins, except it actually worked.
@dveillo36
@dveillo36 Жыл бұрын
@@garvett6660 funny thing is my grandpa Leroy's mom was named Octavia
@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168
@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168 6 ай бұрын
Just like Ceasar wanted...
@sohflipz4439
@sohflipz4439 2 жыл бұрын
Brutus seems to always know how to seize failure from the jaws of victory.
@seabassdigiorno8212
@seabassdigiorno8212 8 ай бұрын
Oooh love that! Put that on his gravestone😂
@tiasara5967
@tiasara5967 8 ай бұрын
Finally, a historical figure l can relate to.
@spencermarks7644
@spencermarks7644 5 ай бұрын
He must've been a Republican
@dr.pepperyoutube.trustmeit843
@dr.pepperyoutube.trustmeit843 4 жыл бұрын
"it was starting to look like a 5 sided civil war" Kaiserreich: Write that down, write that down!
@gardenpop
@gardenpop 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone understood the reference but I did
@anonymouscommenter7578
@anonymouscommenter7578 4 жыл бұрын
I also did!
@BubbleBrawler
@BubbleBrawler 4 жыл бұрын
waynetraub3 I think the hoi4 mod is based on a book or something, may be it
@respublica4373
@respublica4373 4 жыл бұрын
@@BubbleBrawler Tee 'Hoi4 mod' is based on a Hoi2 mod.
@hiruharii
@hiruharii 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit is that a MOTHERFUCKING KAISERREICH REFERENCE?!?!
@aetu35
@aetu35 4 жыл бұрын
Goodbye, Cicero. We will remember that green square.
@resileaf9501
@resileaf9501 4 жыл бұрын
A square of principles who tried his best, every day, until his assassination.
@johnyoutuber9781
@johnyoutuber9781 4 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about this is that with him gone, the number of remaining originators has reduced to just one: Antony. Of all the characters that were with us from the beginning, and did not come to be LATER down the road, Antony is the ONLY one left, and he's not got long to go...
@vectrom21
@vectrom21 4 жыл бұрын
too many deaths! First the red square, now the green, soon we will be out of colors... tragic!
@nooneinparticular3370
@nooneinparticular3370 4 жыл бұрын
RIP in pepperoni. Never forghetti.
@thesunking7365
@thesunking7365 4 жыл бұрын
I like Cicero but I also hate him for being part of Ceasar's assassination
@burpbot7555
@burpbot7555 3 жыл бұрын
"Brutus was... Indecisive" Story of his fucking life. "Whether he meant it or not, he had just stabbed his ally in the back" This one is even more fitting.
@randomcenturion7264
@randomcenturion7264 2 жыл бұрын
Brutus is so useless.
@parkerflorence5332
@parkerflorence5332 2 жыл бұрын
Stabbed him in the groin actually
@danceymetal5484
@danceymetal5484 2 жыл бұрын
@@parkerflorence5332 much like everything else he did, a superficial and loud action, that in the end made little effect.
@florians9949
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
@@randomcenturion7264 The most impact he had was by leading Ceasar’s assassination, which he was beought in last minute.
@tatuloa
@tatuloa Жыл бұрын
For Brutus , when a senator is banging your mom for a long time and wonder if he is your Papa ...it was a toxic mix ..
@joeynelson9761
@joeynelson9761 3 жыл бұрын
* Somebody raises an army and marches on Rome * Romans in 88BC: Noooo, we're all gonna die! Unprecedented! Romans in 44BC: Is it that time of year already?
@sorcierenoire8651
@sorcierenoire8651 2 жыл бұрын
Romans in the 3rd Century AD: wake me up when someone gets appointed as emperor again.
@Liveforgamingman
@Liveforgamingman 2 жыл бұрын
@@sorcierenoire8651 You're not gonna do much sleeping then.
@sheldon-cooper
@sheldon-cooper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Liveforgamingman * Correction * "Wake me up when there's only one emperor"
@HiHi-lh3ps
@HiHi-lh3ps 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheldon-cooper Diocletian: yeah, about that...
@therearenoshortcuts9868
@therearenoshortcuts9868 2 жыл бұрын
as an American Consul once said: "we are always 1 generation away from losing all our freedoms" something unthinkably illegal in your teenage years can become normalized politically by the time you are 50-60
@Blake_Stone
@Blake_Stone 4 жыл бұрын
The story of Cicero sure makes the guy a compelling character. Then again, it was written by Cicero.
@a2falcone
@a2falcone 4 жыл бұрын
Showing that Cicero's method (the pen over the sword) payed off in the long term.
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 4 жыл бұрын
Or almost paid off. In the end, he was let down by his allies, Brutus was practically useless.
@notepad9883
@notepad9883 4 жыл бұрын
​@@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 I think he's talking even longer term than that. Cic got himself killed a handful of years ahead of his time; but twenty centuries later one he is one of the most famous, studied, and admired men in history--and this has only become *more* true with the passage of time over this period. Twenty centuries from now, I wouldn't bet he won't be bigger than ever. He didn't exactly have the last laugh, because you can't laugh with a head that's detached from your body... But if you believe in posthumous "payoffs," if you believe that history's "immortality" counts for something, then yeah, his enemies came with their swords way too late to stop the ultimate victory of those hands and tongue. RIP Cicero. Long live Cicero.
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 4 жыл бұрын
@@notepad9883 That is very true, but for Rome that time would never come again. This was the only chance that the Republic had at stopping the rise of Tyrants and when push came shove; his fellow senators completely failed him. The assassins despite acting on the effective behalf of the senate acted indecisively and thus effectively squandered their own goals of re-instating the senate as the primary authority, and later Cic's gains in putting Ceasers successors in putting them in an awkward position. He even complains about this many times. A true republic only works when the will of the senate is united, the United Kingdom is a prime example of what I consider to be a modern day Rome; indecisive, corrupt and steadily loaning out chunks of it's authority out to companies instead of it's generals. One day, it will be British in name only. Of course, he was an excellent politician and had managed to decisively set up a situation where both of Ceasers successor's could've been defeated. But Brutus chose not to move and doomed the republic. This is speaking high praises by the way; only Cic could engineer a situation where all it's Tryants could potentially be dispatched, yet believe in the republic so heavily as to bring that he did it all in the proper way. It's really inspiring in the way that he came so far despite having never commanded an single soldier in the entire civil war.
@douglasphillips5870
@douglasphillips5870 4 жыл бұрын
Ultimately his goal was to save the republic which he failed. He failed well, but he failed
@JingleJangle256
@JingleJangle256 4 жыл бұрын
So Brutus, Cassius, and Decimus murdered Caesar out of fear that he’d declare himself king and start killing members of the opposition, only to fuel the ambitions of younger men who were more keen to purge than Caesar ever was. Palpatine (in the shadows): Ironic.
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser 4 жыл бұрын
"Caesar wants to be king" was PR on their part, they killed him because Caesar had started to reward plebs and retired soldiers with public land and forcing the rich landowner class to employ unemployed roman freeman instead of slaves (1/3 of the workforce at least if i remember right). The optimates killed Caesar to stop social reform and in doing so they ensured their own deaths. So yeah ironic, fuck them.
@ben76326
@ben76326 4 жыл бұрын
@@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser it was not just PR. Caesar monopolized power in Rome and got declared declared dictator for life. During that time here are some of the especially kingly things he had done. He passed legislation to have an ornate chair (some would say throne) set between the two consuls chairs. And he passed another law enabling him to ware a purple toga (which was the dress of the old kings of Rome). No legislation behind this one, but Caesar had a bust of himself placed in Temple that housed busts of the original kings of Rome. With all of that I don't think it's unfair to say Caesar wanted to be King. Even if he was also passing reforms to help the common people.
@gaminbros316
@gaminbros316 4 жыл бұрын
@@ben76326 man ceasar is almost like President Marcos in the Phil. They both resorted to dictatorial powers thinking thier country would be better with them ruling
@Pyxis10
@Pyxis10 4 жыл бұрын
@@ben76326 How dare you!? That was just a special golden chair made for the guy who dressed like a king and acted like a king, but definitely wasn't one!
@requited2568
@requited2568 4 жыл бұрын
@@ben76326 Wonder why he wanted to be king? Probably nothing to do with the low life senators who liked assassinating people and would betray their friends.
@harryheller4476
@harryheller4476 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really impressive that Cicero was able to form a powerful faction in the senate after ceasar packed it with his boys
@Sticktothemodels
@Sticktothemodels 3 жыл бұрын
Sheep will always look for a shepherd. Man lost it almost as quick as he got it
@LOL-zu1zr
@LOL-zu1zr Жыл бұрын
Man was too based to be defeated by moron Anthony
@neilb143
@neilb143 7 ай бұрын
​@@LOL-zu1zrstill lost his head lol. He fucked with the wrong people and tried to help the biggest back stabber in history
@kingeddiam2543
@kingeddiam2543 6 ай бұрын
​@@neilb143octavian tried to save cicero, just antonys help was more important to him than ciceros life. Cicero was a noble man who believed in loyalty and trust, octavian and antony exploited that
@herpyderpy2869
@herpyderpy2869 Жыл бұрын
When everyone wanted Caesar gone, Cicero wanted order When Caesar was in power, all Cicero cared about was stability When the Second Triumvirate was formed, Cicero wanted peace He's the rare kind of politician who's competent and still cares about the country's order
@florians9949
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
And in return, he got murdered.
@keiththomas1180
@keiththomas1180 Жыл бұрын
Damn
@nashzahm
@nashzahm Жыл бұрын
When Cicero died, i believe the Republic died with him. He just wanted the Republic to be stable, and without him stability could never return. His position and popularity in Italy made him the last hope.
@snickims9717
@snickims9717 Жыл бұрын
@@nashzahm But, although he truely seemed to love the republic, he had no ideas on how to deal with the many insititional problems that had lead to the rise of Caesar. I can not help but think that even if he had been succesful, he would have failed, for the republic was simply too far down the road of collapse for anyone to save it.
@Tarnatos14
@Tarnatos14 Жыл бұрын
@@snickims9717 Actually he had an Idear, he wanted to strenghen the senat, more as it was normaly before that. If thats a good idear is another debate, but he actually had an idear. We know (or at least I do, there are maybe more) two ancient 'concepts' how to safe the republik. The one is form Polybios: his idear follows the existing technic of the republik, the chec and balances of: senat, People, magistrates, and the tribuni of the people as the thing between all that. Ciceros idear, as he identifed the strenghen magistrates and pro-magistrates (as Marius, Sulla and Pmpeius where) as the problem (and technically he was right about that, as we see the centralising of the power in the hand of the 'first-high-magistrate' the piricipatus/Caeasr/Emperor later), was to strenghen the senat (In his eyes the core of the republic, and I think it was) and weaken the magistrates, letting so the 'parlamentry' system of this group of aristoctrats defend the republik both against people 'mass' agitation/following and the to powerfull ambitions of singular people. Source: Dreyer, Boris: Die Innenpolitik der römischen Republik, 264.- 133. v. Chr., 2006, Darmstadt, S. 15.
@jamestaylor3623
@jamestaylor3623 4 жыл бұрын
Antony: "I want a swap, I get everything, and you get nothing"
@legate6680
@legate6680 4 жыл бұрын
that IS the law of equivalent exchange... Maybe.
@TheSecondVersion
@TheSecondVersion 4 жыл бұрын
Quintus Jeffus Bezos
@TheHej2
@TheHej2 4 жыл бұрын
But that wasn't a part of the deal.
@Bloodprince1234
@Bloodprince1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHej2 He is altering the deal. Pray he doesn't alter it any further.
@joaquindirie1448
@joaquindirie1448 4 жыл бұрын
Art of the deal
@mojeo522
@mojeo522 4 жыл бұрын
"My child, this was a learned man and a lover of his country". That hit hard :(
@germanyballwork5301
@germanyballwork5301 4 жыл бұрын
:( indeed, I feel rome would have been far stronger had cicero, caesar, pompey and a lot of other people not been murdered in the civil wars of that time
@Guanaco17
@Guanaco17 4 жыл бұрын
@@germanyballwork5301 It is true. Civil War do not benefit a state in anyway.
@frankwu4747
@frankwu4747 4 жыл бұрын
Who was that grandson?
@Arduu123
@Arduu123 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankwu4747 Same question popped into my head instantly too. Seems like it is mentioned by Plutarch but i cant find, atleast online, who he's referring to. Maybe Claudius?
@JohnBehrens118
@JohnBehrens118 4 жыл бұрын
@@germanyballwork5301 Maybe. However Octavian's rule ushered in the Pax Romana and a century of relative peace. It wasn't until Marcus Aurelius started the trend of leaving the Emperor position to be inherited by incompetent progeny (*cough*Commodus*cough*) that the Crisis of the Third Century began and with it the slow decline of the Western Roman Empire.
@calistman222
@calistman222 3 жыл бұрын
(Invents time machine) (Meets Cicero in real life) "Huh, you looked a lot different in the documentary"
@tomlxyz
@tomlxyz 2 жыл бұрын
"less green and square"
@tap1148
@tap1148 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomlxyz fake news!!!!!! Big history might claim Cicero was a "human being" but the truth is he was floating green square
@ner0833
@ner0833 Жыл бұрын
@@tomlxyz wait...they aren't squares!?
@stefanodegioia1598
@stefanodegioia1598 Жыл бұрын
Plot twist, they are all actually squares
@polygonalfortress
@polygonalfortress Жыл бұрын
they're actually circles
@andrewbresnan1449
@andrewbresnan1449 2 жыл бұрын
We remember and mourn Antony + Cleopatra's deaths but we should really remember and mourn Labienus' and Cicero's deaths
@hihi-nm3uy
@hihi-nm3uy Жыл бұрын
God, Labeinus didn’t even get his moment in the sun in Unbiased History. The guy was literally an anime rival to the teeth, and perfect drama material.
@sidlukkassen9687
@sidlukkassen9687 Жыл бұрын
Yes. A movie about the relationship between Caesar and Labienus would be a tremendous success.
@cjmcc5231
@cjmcc5231 Жыл бұрын
Antony was an asshole- no mourning for me.
@spooneater9001
@spooneater9001 4 жыл бұрын
Also, after all this, I wonder if "et tu, brute?" wasn't caesar being surprised at Brutus' betrayal, but rather: "Holy shit, you decided to do something drastic for once, Brutus?"
@azarishere6442
@azarishere6442 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Guanaco17
@Guanaco17 4 жыл бұрын
Roasted
@bogdandamaschin9381
@bogdandamaschin9381 4 жыл бұрын
he did what his father told him: not to do anything without the permission of Tribune Aquila
@Heldarion
@Heldarion 4 жыл бұрын
"Et tu, Brute?" is an invention by Shakespeare ...
@Dubanx
@Dubanx 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Funny, but "Et Tu Brutus" is a work of shakespear's telling of the story, and was not actually said.
@rgm96x49
@rgm96x49 4 жыл бұрын
"No plan, no system, no method!" Jeez, Cicero, you didn't have to narrate my life up to now like that, man.
@resileaf9501
@resileaf9501 4 жыл бұрын
Well stop doing a Brutus of yourself and be a Ceasar instead!
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 4 жыл бұрын
I relate to Brutus the most: Incompetent and lazy
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 4 жыл бұрын
US official response to the novel coronavirus of 2019: no plan, no system, no method.
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny - I thought that to be a particularly modern-sounding comment. What a brilliant man he truly must have been.
@karlhans6678
@karlhans6678 3 жыл бұрын
@@resileaf9501 if i become a Caesar then it wont end well for me...
@angelortiz4815
@angelortiz4815 Жыл бұрын
It's sad watching Cicero masterfully thread the political needle just to have Octavian come in with a hammer
@chadsworthgigafuck
@chadsworthgigafuck 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being recognized by face by a Roman checkpoint soldier in ancient times. You can't have worse luck than Decimus.
@rexgrimes7562
@rexgrimes7562 4 жыл бұрын
"We're anti murder in this house" literally two minutes later... "if it's of any consolation, Brutus retaliated by killing Anthony's brother"" LMAO RIP
@jensjensen9035
@jensjensen9035 4 жыл бұрын
rip who? Cicero or cockheads brother ?
@SnekNOTSnake
@SnekNOTSnake 4 жыл бұрын
BTW how did you commented this a week earlier before the video even get uploaded, which is only 30 mins ago?
@SnekNOTSnake
@SnekNOTSnake 4 жыл бұрын
@@archdukefranzferdinand567 Ahh, that explains everything. I thought it was another KZfaq's bug.
@resileaf9501
@resileaf9501 4 жыл бұрын
@@SnekNOTSnake Someone asks about it every single week XD
@jophielswings
@jophielswings 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair like the entire world at this point is becoming very anti-rich very fast in 2020. And for frankly good reason.
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Cicero had allies that were actually useful.
@toddharig8142
@toddharig8142 4 жыл бұрын
My team every game.
@alessandronavone6731
@alessandronavone6731 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, all except Brutus did pretty much their best. Decimus' and Cassius' resolve in taking control of their provinces in advance and their skill in raising armies and support in the provinces are remarkable. The odds were stacked against them from the start, with both the people and the veterans being with the Caesarians.
@papapok13
@papapok13 4 жыл бұрын
Cicero should have picked his allies better. I mean look at their conspircy to kill Caesar: from begining to end, it was a bumbling mess. It's a miracle it worked, yet it went down as one of the most consequential murder in history.
@jevinliu4658
@jevinliu4658 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Brutus actually did something
@Flyingclam
@Flyingclam 4 жыл бұрын
@@papapok13 cicero never knew about the plot to kill caeser
@AlexGreeneHypnotist
@AlexGreeneHypnotist 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny that the term "backstabbing" is synonymous with betrayal, and that it was popularised by the suposedly most famous literal backstab, that of Brutus to Julius Caesar - when in the prior episodes of this series, we learned that Brutus stuck his knife in Caesar's groin, a frontal attack.
@fhornmichaelmac
@fhornmichaelmac 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a very different world if betrayal was referred to as "getting stabbed in the groin."
@serotonin.scavenger
@serotonin.scavenger 2 жыл бұрын
Caesar was banging Servilia, Brutus' mum; I would think that stab to the groin was fitting lol
@tutituti4344
@tutituti4344 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Rammstein singing SackStabu?
@tomlxyz
@tomlxyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@tutituti4344 that song isn't about back stabbing, the title is a made up word and is a desired thing in the song
@LordTelperion
@LordTelperion 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have this dagger in front of me THAN a frontal gonadetomy! XD
@WereDictionary
@WereDictionary 2 жыл бұрын
"This battle happened on Decimus' birthday. Which is not important. But it _is_ funny." The sheer deadpan delivery of this line had me in stitches. Which is not important. But it _is_ funny.
@SomeDude518
@SomeDude518 8 ай бұрын
No go watch him talk about birthday boy in the video released after this. That is funny! 🥳💀
@simen3971
@simen3971 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Cicero invented a whole range of Latin words that still exist in recognizable form in Modern English: argumentum, conclusio, essentia, forma, intellectus, moralia, natura, propositio, ratio, species, possibly more. And he was a man of principles, unlike pretty much all his contemporaries. What a dude.
@themechanicalentry8353
@themechanicalentry8353 4 жыл бұрын
@@sdsd2e2321 Petrarch*
@themechanicalentry8353
@themechanicalentry8353 4 жыл бұрын
@Domantas It probably was less stupidity and more limited information, plus some bit of being too hopeful and truthful to his own ideals. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew it could've been his demise, but he preferred to go that way than to let Rome's system fail even further.
@itaieiron7275
@itaieiron7275 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't all good, but yeah. RIP
@thibautnarme6402
@thibautnarme6402 4 жыл бұрын
@Domantas I concur, he could have easily remained the consul-maker that he was and use his influence on young Octavian to limit (or rather delay) the slide toward cesarism.
@ryanross6973
@ryanross6973 4 жыл бұрын
Man of principles. Explains why he got fucked at almost every turn when things got hectic.
@TheSecondVersion
@TheSecondVersion 4 жыл бұрын
Brutus: "Oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics" Cicero: "Hang on, this whole operation was *your* idea. "
@samc9516
@samc9516 4 жыл бұрын
In this analogy, does it work to make Octavian Emperor Palpatine? "In order to ensure the security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganised into the FIRST GALACTIC/ROMAN EMPIRE!" Edit: and therefore Caesar could be the legendary Darth Plagueis the wise himself! :o
@KarakNornClansman
@KarakNornClansman 4 жыл бұрын
@@samc9516 Palpatine is very much based on Octavianus. It's an obvious parallell. He's the senate.
@luciusvernus3174
@luciusvernus3174 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@forasago
@forasago 4 жыл бұрын
@@samc9516 Palpatine is more like the original Caesar. Octavian followed Caesar's blueprint on how to run things whereas Palpatine was a pioneer, at least until Disney retcons it.
@iceintheair
@iceintheair 4 жыл бұрын
@@KarakNornClansman you mean caesar
@rocinante4609
@rocinante4609 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Cicero's finest hour was when he suppressed the Catiline conspiracy during his consulship and then had Roman citizens killed without a trial. After Caesar's death Cicero got outmanoeuvred by a young Octavius. Although he managed to corner Antonius he got lulled into a false sense of security by a tame Senate. He mistook the wolf for a sheep in Octavius. Cicero belonged to an earlier era of Roman history when people respected the rule of law and Roman armies didn't decide the ruler.
@TheAdmirableAdmiral
@TheAdmirableAdmiral 2 жыл бұрын
Cicero would probably argue that was his finest hour too. Though I don't discount this event either. If Cicero had just retired after cesar's death Antony probably would have won the brief followup civil war.
@shadanahmad6843
@shadanahmad6843 Жыл бұрын
👆 This guy gets it.
@createrz8433
@createrz8433 9 ай бұрын
That's why it was *his* year
@ThatPianoNoob
@ThatPianoNoob 10 күн бұрын
​@@TheAdmirableAdmiralyea I loved the video but the title is pretty nonsensical. He tried his best and failed as hard as you ever could. If I did something that ended with my enemy getting everything they wanted and me getting my throat slit I'd be very surprised to find that people think that was my finest hour. Sounds like an insult honestly.
@SiveenO
@SiveenO Жыл бұрын
"No Plan, No System, No Method!" must be my favorite quote of the day.
@mikelius28
@mikelius28 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Brutus thinks he is the "chosen one" to save the Republic and then does absolutely nothing. I wonder if the characters have been romanticized or were just out of touch with reality.
@Mitaka.Kotsuka
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 4 жыл бұрын
probably both
@noneinparticular2338
@noneinparticular2338 3 жыл бұрын
The word brute gives the game away about that Brute
@someopinion2846
@someopinion2846 3 жыл бұрын
An ancient BoJo
@kylemendoza8860
@kylemendoza8860 3 жыл бұрын
I think out of touch. He was probably in an echo chamber.
@SHDW-nf2ki
@SHDW-nf2ki 3 жыл бұрын
I think its a bit of being out of touch But not really in a bad way Keep in mind Romans were MAD superstitious so Brutus probably didn't just think he was the "Chosen one" Imagine your whole life is built on the legacy of someone who isn't you, and everyone around you outright takes it as fact that you will continue that legacy. But you have none of your ancestors training or knowledge and the situation is radically different than what he faced before you. I imagine Brutus was probably paralyzed with fear of messing up and ruining his family name, one of the most historically important names in all of Rome.
@D3D3D
@D3D3D 4 жыл бұрын
Octavian: "I used the anti-Caesarian Faction to destroy the anti-Caesarian Faction"
@pokey796
@pokey796 4 жыл бұрын
After the anti-Caesarian faction tried to use the Caesarian faction to destroy the Caesarian faction
@jeffreyroot6300
@jeffreyroot6300 4 жыл бұрын
pokey79 How Roman!
@oswald7597
@oswald7597 4 жыл бұрын
Octavian will return in Rome: Endgame
@FourOf92000
@FourOf92000 4 жыл бұрын
"I used the squares to destroy the squares"
@Mitaka.Kotsuka
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 4 жыл бұрын
was super efective
@BumblinIdiot
@BumblinIdiot 3 жыл бұрын
I legitimately started crying at the end of this. The world can always use more people like Cicero. Whenever people like this get torn from us we are all poorer for it.
@billrich9722
@billrich9722 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure those Centurion were richer for it.
@Beno27591
@Beno27591 Жыл бұрын
u cryin over squares lol
@createrz8433
@createrz8433 9 ай бұрын
At least Anthonys brother was killed as a result of this, and later on he himself was killed in an unwinnable war.
@creatrixZBD
@creatrixZBD 7 ай бұрын
The assholes get ever richer
@neilb143
@neilb143 7 ай бұрын
Cicero deserved it fully as he was waging a war against people who rightfully were the heir of Caesar. And while his intentions were to not have another king like leader, he had no clue how to unite the empire, which Antony and Octavian successful did
@angelovargas938
@angelovargas938 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ man, your telling made me so attached to a green square that I genuinely felt bad when he died. HBO is sleeping on this, they should remake Rome with your telling as a baseline, this is incredible
@ghfudrs93uuu
@ghfudrs93uuu Жыл бұрын
Rome is gone, man. We can only hope they won't repeat history and exchange something of the same caliber for a dragon show, but we know they will
@InDadequate
@InDadequate Жыл бұрын
you're right, an HBPO sequel to later years after Julius would be fantastic to see
@zumis1011
@zumis1011 9 ай бұрын
@@InDadequate It already exists, it's a great show
@MalcolmTown
@MalcolmTown 4 жыл бұрын
We've now been in quarantine long enough for this man to upload twice.
@arawn1061
@arawn1061 4 жыл бұрын
2020 what a year
@Jesse__H
@Jesse__H 4 жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@rodrigodepierola
@rodrigodepierola 4 жыл бұрын
Cruel, True, but cruel.
@StFrancisEnjoyer
@StFrancisEnjoyer 4 жыл бұрын
YEARS HAVE PASSED AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE
@JohnDoe-kv3cm
@JohnDoe-kv3cm 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck.... has it really been that long?
@Masterblader158
@Masterblader158 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: *Playing 4D chess against each other* Octavian: *Playing 5D chess to prepare for the future* Brutus: "LMAO I'm just gonna sit here"
@bsantini3616
@bsantini3616 4 жыл бұрын
Brutus just staring
@IDontWantThisStupidHandle
@IDontWantThisStupidHandle 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, it seems to have worked out in the end for him, no? He got to control half the Eastern half of the empire AND keep his head, as well as his hands, attached to his body. Sounds like a win-win to me.
@aleksanderlenartowicz5659
@aleksanderlenartowicz5659 4 жыл бұрын
@@IDontWantThisStupidHandle Brutus is the worst lesson to children in history. Remember, children, if you are a traitor, murder, abandon and backstab your friends hard enough, you MIGHT become a rich, powerful man with a quarter of the civilised world as your dominion.
@ArtfulDodger566
@ArtfulDodger566 4 жыл бұрын
You guys knows brutus was eventually killed in the civil war by octavian right?
@D3D3D
@D3D3D 4 жыл бұрын
Butus : Breathing is fun.
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 2 жыл бұрын
Cicero: “we must stop Marc Antony! He’ll become another Caesar!” Octavian/Augustus: (laughs in the distance)
@friendcomputer2293
@friendcomputer2293 2 жыл бұрын
Cicero: 'I'll ally myself with the man who literally named himself Caesar after the original one. What could possibly go wrong?'
@LOL-zu1zr
@LOL-zu1zr Жыл бұрын
@@friendcomputer2293 “his a kid I can still change him”
@sidlukkassen9687
@sidlukkassen9687 Жыл бұрын
There are letters predating the Philippicae in which Cicero recognizes that this will happen. But still goes by the course of allying with Octavian against M.A. probably because he went so all-in and personal in his speeches against M.A. that there was really no way back.
@csxfan_
@csxfan_ 3 жыл бұрын
It's so infuriating watching Brutus do nothing time and time again. Octavian understood being in and near Rome gave him both better information and the ability to exert influence. Brutus just didn't understand this at like any point.
@Deboniako
@Deboniako Жыл бұрын
It's just as remote work
@markalanajon3295
@markalanajon3295 11 ай бұрын
He deadass didn't move until he died when he killed ceasar
@michaelsmart7445
@michaelsmart7445 4 жыл бұрын
"This was a learned man, and a lover of his country." Ow, my heart. :(
@josephclaessens8160
@josephclaessens8160 4 жыл бұрын
Almost brought a tear to my eye 😢
@kim2894
@kim2894 4 жыл бұрын
can definitely imagine old and aged Augustus laying it down if anybody within his earshot talked bad about Cicero
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 4 жыл бұрын
That's what Caesar said.
@captainrackham2004
@captainrackham2004 4 жыл бұрын
I got a lump in my throat when that scene happened lol. It seems like they had a lot of respect for each other, even if someone lost the game. it's amazing the drama the unfolds in these stories! it feels like we KNOW them! 🥺
@Hugh_Morris
@Hugh_Morris 4 жыл бұрын
Augustus knew the deal. It’s also worth noting that he pardoned Cicero’s son and allowed him to be the one that declared Marcus Antonius’ death as well as revoke his honours and ban the name Marcus within that family.
@TheJaviferrol
@TheJaviferrol 4 жыл бұрын
Decimus: "I was handpicked by Caesar!" Says one of the dudes who literally "hand picked" Caesar...
@itsMe_TheHerpes
@itsMe_TheHerpes 4 жыл бұрын
instead of watching this nonsense video, you should ask yourself what do you do to support the black lives matter movement, and how do you fight against white supremacy ?
@Marshal_Rock
@Marshal_Rock 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsMe_TheHerpes Get lost
@williammoore6534
@williammoore6534 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsMe_TheHerpes why would i help an evil communist movement that wants to destroy America?
@METALFREAK03
@METALFREAK03 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsMe_TheHerpes history truly repeats. stop making it about race. Then we will succeed.
@1112viggo
@1112viggo 3 жыл бұрын
@@METALFREAK03 Funny i can´t think of any wars that was started because of race? Unless your one of those people who think the main reason the Nazis invaded the world was to kill Jews and the American civil war was fought to free slaves, then maybe there is a few. But still the overwhelming reason we wage war on each other on this planet is wealth and territory. The rest are just petty and transparent excuses to try and justify the bloodshed, usually after the fact.
@reconnectingtryagain6986
@reconnectingtryagain6986 3 жыл бұрын
Green square: shakes back and forth Me: You show him Cicero!
@AlexGreeneHypnotist
@AlexGreeneHypnotist 3 жыл бұрын
So in effect, when Antony was refusing to hand over Caesar's money to Octavian, Octavian started up the first crowdfunding campaign in history just to rub it in Antony's face. And it worked!
@serotonin.scavenger
@serotonin.scavenger 2 жыл бұрын
"Crowdfunding," as you put it, was more common than you would think. Another example was Caesar, Octavian's adoptive _tata_ , raising his 50-talent ransom from the city of Rhodes, when he was captured by pirates.
@maxstr
@maxstr 4 жыл бұрын
I started watching this on my TV, and to my surprise my 6 year old daughter sat down and started watching with me. This girl has a 10 second attention span, but she ended up watching the entire thing! She was even asking me questions like what an empire is, and if the "envelopes" are armies. Thank you for this video and making an awesome father-daughter experience for me
@JamesJJSMilton
@JamesJJSMilton 3 жыл бұрын
@Loonytoones85 no no put her in govt. schools so she can learn 10 seconds of the byzantine empire.
@macfly6237
@macfly6237 3 жыл бұрын
Soylent green is people!!
@Jessie_Helms
@Jessie_Helms 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats man! I was around her age myself when I started being fascinated by history. Here’s my suggestion as a 21 year old life long lover of history: use as many organic methods of teaching history as possible like (supervised until she’s old enough) historical YT videos (preferably from entertaining channels like this, Extra Credits, LindyBiege, etc...), find ways to make timelines feel natural rather than memorizing “x person did y thing on z date”, and introduce her to various periods (the Shaw’s of Persia are really neat, the unification of Germany, formation of China, and The Western Confederacy are great example they won’t teach much of in school). If you home school her, I’d look hard for interesting and well written history material. If she goes to a school you don’t control the material of, look for ways to help her learn about it organically and see the people as, well, people rather than info dumps. The time I hated history more than ever was in middle school with the same boring tone being used to teach me about the same events I’d already heard about every year. That’s, IMO, when most people develop an apathy or even hatred of history.
@EiriktheNordAndersen-ju4gl
@EiriktheNordAndersen-ju4gl 3 жыл бұрын
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!
@ImTheMariner
@ImTheMariner 3 жыл бұрын
I bet shes even cuter than those squares, haha reading this comment made me happy, thank you for that. i really hope she keeps an interest in history, better than all the shenanigans of modern entertainment bullshit.
@Patchaddictedpolymath
@Patchaddictedpolymath 4 жыл бұрын
"My child, this was a learned man, and a lover of his country."
@thiagooliveira7935
@thiagooliveira7935 3 жыл бұрын
"one that I got him killed"
@theleetworldbest
@theleetworldbest 3 жыл бұрын
And yet, he allowed him to die. Octavianus is forever tainted in my eyes as the one allowing one of the greatest, if not THE greatest men, of his time to die
@acebalistic1358
@acebalistic1358 3 жыл бұрын
@@theleetworldbest it was antony's fault, he was insistent, he was forcing octavian to allow it. what was octavian supposed to do, start another civil war within a civil war that would take at least tens of thousands more lives?
@friedkeenan
@friedkeenan 3 жыл бұрын
@@acebalistic1358 He (and everyone else) should have never allowed it to get to that point
@gandalfgrey91
@gandalfgrey91 3 жыл бұрын
If it’s any consolation, Brutus retaliated by killing Antony’s brother.
@CalvinNoire
@CalvinNoire Жыл бұрын
Cicero is a very honourable man, and the ending of this video with octavian's grandson made my heart pour, F.
@SC-tl3rh
@SC-tl3rh 3 ай бұрын
Just watched this for the 50th time or something like that. This video was Historia Civilis’ finest hour. Hands down. Thank you for the wonderful content you make. Been a fan since your Alessia video. Keep up the good work!
@owenb8636
@owenb8636 4 жыл бұрын
As an act of defiance, Decimus killed some Gauls. Is this just the way Romans vent their anger?
@BradyPostma
@BradyPostma 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm going to say yes.
@BradyPostma
@BradyPostma 4 жыл бұрын
Also, hi fellow Brady!
@Axalon900
@Axalon900 4 жыл бұрын
These Romans are crazy!
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot 4 жыл бұрын
"Any day is a good day for killing Gauls,-- but today it feels especially RIGHT! AND! PROPER!"
@namekman01
@namekman01 4 жыл бұрын
a roman stubs his toe on a table "THE GALL OF THE PERSON WHO PUT THIS IN MY WAY!!!" gears turn in his head "THE GAUL... I BET THE GAULS DID THIS! I WILL HAVE VENGENCE!"
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 4 жыл бұрын
When we went over this in Middle school, they never mentioned how confusing this was at the start. We went straight to the Liberators War and to Octavian's Civil War. How did anyone keep track of these alliances and betrayals is more astonishing than the actual battles.
@Justaguy5678
@Justaguy5678 4 жыл бұрын
tf kinda middle school did you go to? We barely talked about Rome at even a surface level at mine. And I live in the US state with probably the best education system lmao.
@Justaguy5678
@Justaguy5678 4 жыл бұрын
@Danny n I said the best as in within America. Shoosh.
@reinatr4848
@reinatr4848 4 жыл бұрын
@@Justaguy5678 Italy probably as they were talking about Rome.
@Justaguy5678
@Justaguy5678 4 жыл бұрын
@@reinatr4848 that would be the only way I could understand. World history is packed with stuff, too much for you to focus that much on one state unless its in your own history.
@kelli2783
@kelli2783 4 жыл бұрын
Harrison Loch British schools cover Ancient Rome and Greece on Classics classes. Some schools have Classics as a subject.
@jackcassidy7317
@jackcassidy7317 6 ай бұрын
I’m re-watching all of my liked videos starting from the beginning and I’m about halfway through. Your videos on the fall of the Roman Republic really got me interested in the history of the classical era and beyond. This is one of the first videos of yours I liked because it really made me feel for Cicero, a man who died over 2000 years ago and I knew very little about before watching your videos. Thank you for the history lessons.
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