It's Steven

@Twentieth Century Fox, Is it Voytek or Wojciech? 🤔 I've always wondered! 🙂

@@michelleharak7849 one is the translation of the other so yeah its both

And Gary Hinman.

Joseph Stegall I totally agree!

@@doloresromo7029 so do I bloody awful

There are a lot of Manson apologists that you come across on these videos with their comments that Charlie never killed anyone. Lots of Tex and Leslie devotees as well.

Vile tragic

Idolized by creeps who have no empathy. This must have been footage right after the murders, because I don't believe Sharon and Roman had a beware of dog sign. Horrible memories at this house. Totally see why they rebuilt it.

Not me. I have night vision 😉

You totally miss the mark, THANK GOD it was torn down!! Today, ghoulish types like "Dearly Departed" Scott Michaels, would be offering paid tours, just to a make a buck off of this tragedy.

@@gregrak9389 Well that is true...but it would have only taken a decent owner to put a stop to that.

its my understanding that the original house more or less had to be torn down after trent reznor recorded the nine inch nails album "the downward spiral" there - apparently he had a bunch of walls knocked out and ad hoc sound booths built to turn it into a makeshift studio - leaving the structure unsound and non code compliant.

The house was unsafe. If murders took place in it. Clearly it needs upgrades. Such as steel doors, an alarm system, a couple of German Shepherds.❤

The house that they (Sharon/Roman) rented from Patty Duke in 1968 at the top of Summit Drive still stands...that's a nice house although the garden and interior has had a large makeover...gone are the lawns.

Cheyenne x I’m with you on that.

House was destroying decades ago. A different house was built close to the original location. Original house had been sublet by Terry Melcher to Roman Polanski. Manson tried to get a record deal from Melcher who turned him down. Manson had actually been in the house when Melcher lived there but he was fully aware who was living there the night of the attack. Melcher wasn't even in the country.

Count me in, please!

Celia Gorleski I think you misread the original post.

@@PeetaIsMyHomeboy Maybe you misunderstood my post or tell me what I wrote that was wrong.

Lone Star Were you living there? Sorry if I missed something

Lone Star that's exactly what material items are:"temporary use of worldly processions". Beautifully said! We dont take anything with us!

Woody, did you live there when Bob Esty did? Bob was a very dear friend of my friend Irene Soderberg.

Did you know Sharon???

@@marygebert8057 No. I methim tho

anilomd I do to....

Tim H he was weird before

The house was torn down because it wasn't feasible anymore. It's roof had been declared a fire Hazzard and it wasn't up to code structurally in regards to earthquakes in 1994. It was determined that the costs of fixing it up werent worth it.

It *was* there. The killers bypassed that by climbing the embankment to the right of the gate.

The killers, namely Tex Watson, decided not to climb the gate because they thought it might be electrified. It wasn’t but they couldn’t take the risk. They climbed up the embankment that was between the entrance gate and the exit gate. They jumped down right next to the exit gate and that’s where Tex saw Steven Parent in his car trying to get out the exit gate. Steven was a sitting duck stuck waiting for the gate to open and Tex shot him 4 times in the chest at point blank range.

why didn't they have a more of a security system? For famous people, that seems strange.

@@sylviacarlson3561 - This was in 1969. People weren’t all so scared of each other like now. I remember in the 1970’s when I was little my dad worked and my mom stayed home with me. We didn’t keep the doors to the house locked when we were home in the daytime. My mom’s neighbor friend just came on in the house for her morning coffee with my mom. She didn’t knock. She just announced herself as she came in. My playmates didn’t knock either. They just came on in through the unlocked door. At night or if we left the house we locked doors but that was it. Even celebrities in Hollywood felt safe. Up until August 9, 1969. After that date sales of home security, guns, and guard dogs increased significantly. Sharon and Roman didn’t own the house. They were renting. Any home security would’ve been purchased by the owner of the home. The house was a bit isolated. The public road dead ended at the gates of the house. There was no neighbor on the one side because that property was a dead end. They had entrance and exit gates. To get in you probably had to have a code or to call someone in the house to buzz you in. It was very hot that day. The house was built in the 1940’s. They probably didn’t have air conditioning because with the climate they wouldn’t have needed it very often. Hot night + no A/C = open windows. Tex got in by slashing a screen on an open window. Then he let the girls in through the front door which had been locked.

​@@sylviacarlson3561I agree but I guess it was a different time back then. When people promoted peace and love. SMH. This happened three years before I was born. 😔

Wouldn't have stopped the Manson Family. They would have shot the dog, still climbed over the fence to the right of the entrance which had a slight hill which they went up and over the fence on.

Manson gave explicit orders not to harm/kill any dogs or cats on the properties. The killers actually fed the LaBianca's 2 dogs after all that carnage. The "family" loved animals and had tons on the ranch. Manson had a rule that the dogs ate first at dinner before anyone else could. Watch the 2nd Helter Skelter movie.

Brown Trout Actually.. there were dogs and The Electric gate was turned off this night. The dogs were with The Garreson guy in the guest house. The House was only Targeted because it was Owned by Terry Melcher, Doris Day's son..he Rejected Charlie and his non-talent musical skills..and it pissed him off!! No one on this property deserved this Evil 😈 Carnage! Hopefully..may all the victims, including Little innocent baby Sharon was carrying and being a loving mommy to already. RIP😪

ccjjpp1966 The Electric gate actually being turned on that night and the dog at least would have sent a Warning ! But the Garreson guy..most likely turned that gate off..because his Buddy, Steven Parent was leaving plus he had the dogs in that Guest house. That night. 👎

ddivincenzo1 Manson was a Deranged POS..who should have been fried like the rest of his f-up up, drugged up Murdering misfits!!😈👹😡😠😈!!! Charlie at least knew... don't mess with DOG=GOD!

omg, really?

Prior to Sharon and Roman living there, Terry Melcher and Candice Bergen lived there and they fed stray cats outside (behind the house). Sharon continued to feed them when she moved in with Roman.

That decision cost her her life. So tragic....almost as if it were fated to happen.

Own a lion if possible.

And bury landmines outside

No additions period until it was torn down in 94.. original house was built in 1941 for actress Michelle Morgan .

im happy to hear someone took the dogs. sharon also feed stray cats there and was helping a sick kitten the night of the murders. linda should have done the right thing and took off in the car and went to the neighbors to get help but she said she feared for her little daughter life that was still at the ranch or the people she would have asked help for. yes she will regret this for the rest of her life!

Linda has a lot more involvement than she admitted.

Chuck Summers The dogs were being watched by Bill Garretson which saved his life because Susan Atkins tried opening the door but heard the dogs barking and she ran back to Tex to say no one was in the guest house.

​@@johnnysunrocket8618 It was Patricia Krenwinkle that was sent by Tex to try the door.

​@@valjackson9050that is correct.

berryfail totally agree

Seems like it was another Hollywood setup (suicide) murder .. See the celebs drop like flies very sad. Something doesn't jive with this one at all. .. Where the f was Polanski? Satanic ritual yep more to it I'm sure than we can imagine RIP

@@CS-sf1rz Wow. You know a whole lot about nothing, don't you? Half-wit.

Robert Hendricksons film, (Manson), claimed Sharon did have dogs but had penned them up that night because she took in a stray cat.🤔

They would have shot the poor dog if they had one.

​@SaraM-wb4lk knowing Tex Watson was like yeah I could see that sick SOB shooting the dog!!!

You know that could've been a huge huge difference... all the difference in the world, really... Good point

Susan Atkins stated that she saw a dog staring in through the windows of the house just before the murders started. So obviously one of the dogs had gotten free, even though William Garretson, who was looking after the dogs, never spoke of it. Possibly the dog got out when Steven Parent left the guesthouse.

​@@ironduke2000 So how come this caretaker didn't know there was murder going on? The dogs would have been going crazy. He knew. It was a set up. The killers knew the dogs were kept hidden away, and Sharon realised they were set up. She knew and was possibly waiting for the caretaker to let the dogs loose. But he never did. The killers left him live as they were instructed to do so.

@@Adriana-vp1rmHe stated he was wearing headphones and didn’t see or hear anything. If you look at pictures of him he’s definitely scared and in shock. Even if he did see or hear some thing what could he do? Tex Watson cut the phone lines and the gate was locked. He would have been another victim.

@@gaynorpatterson2915 He had few German shepherd dogs with him in house. He could have released them quietly and run behind into bush immediately. He'd be in no time at someone else's house. The murderers would be busy with the dogs. He was involved. No way he didn't know. The dogs would have gone crazy and he'd have to take his headgear off.

She was a free spirit and didn't want all that. She chose the house because it was romantic and cozy. She was raised by a normal down to earth mother and was an all American woman.

@@raquellambropoulos279 What does that have to do with having a security system?

Anne Buckner Nice one that Literally nearly made me laugh out loud .🙂✌️

Concordo plenamente

:( :( :(

First, Susan held Sharon's arms back while Tex plunged the knife into her chest. Since you injected religiosity into this, then Susan is forgiven because she is a born again, Christian.

The house she lived in was demolished in 1994 by the new owner of the property who put a mansion on the property.

Silly

I hear the property is haunted

@Robert Lopez lol

@Robert Lopez Are you an adult that believes in ghosts? If so, that's the second tragedy of this story.

And the occupants were home that night

A museum where someone’s relative was senselessly brutally slaughtered? Nahhh

@@jeanandre6998Auschwitz is a museum 🤷‍♀️

U don't understand generational curses and how Satan works is why u don't get this. Roman most likely knew.

@@Adriana-vp1rmDon’t assume you know my religious background. Your comment was extremely insulting.

@@denisek292 A true Christian is never insulted.

@@Adriana-vp1rm A true Christian doesn’t judge. Your judgemental attitude is what makes ministering and witnessing to non-believers extremely difficult.

@@denisek292 This is laughable. So sad and laughable. Why am I hearing this clow Christianity since so many years everywhere. Don't judge! Don't judge.... Listen woman. God said to judge. The RIGHTEOUS judge all things so stop being stupid. I'm so fed up with this joke Christianity is unbelievable. I have funny Christians daily telling me Don't juuuudge like clowns. Oh, bytheway, Jesus called the Gentiles dogs. Hope u didn't fall of your chair deary.

The house was demolished in 1993.

You couldn’t be more wrong lmao

Actually, that's not at all what he said happened.

That's the story I recall from literally decades of reading about the case. What do you remember?

Hi there. Garretson has, of course, been all over the place with his story over the years. The poor guy has had a lot of difficulty since that night (47 years ago today, actually). His original testimony, with a lie detector test that he passed, said that he heard nothing at all. Then in the 90s, he stated that he saw Gabby being killed. He has flip-flopped on that a few different times. The best evidence seems to support that he saw nothing. I try to get down there as close as I can to each anniversary of the killings, to pay my respects to the murdered. This year, it will be this Saturday or Sunday.

By down there, do you mean to the homes? The Tate house was kind of a laid-back, idyllic dream home, at least to my sensibilities. Until, of course, Manson destroyed it. What's on the land now is a horribly gaudy, modern atrocity. I've only seen pictures, but enough to abhore it.

Yeah, I've seen it several times, it's truly awful. Really ruins the property. I've only been to the LaBianca home a couple of times, including yesterday. As usual (when I got to the sites), I also dropped by the criminal courts building, and the Gary Hinman house, and I walk around Spahn a bit. I don't do that much in the summer from fear of rattlesnakes! Anyway, I do this 2-3 times a year, while I'm down there for other stuff. I live about 3 hours away.

not true, tex couldnt open gate from outside because it sounded a buzzer inside the house when you pressed button to open the gate from the outside

This is probably some time after october 1969 into 1970

@@JB-pk4ck I doubt it, I've been following that bunch for at least 11 years now, (Linda Kasabian just died a few months ago, I think February). The murders took place just after midnight Aug.9, 1969. At around the 2:18 mark of the vid, they show the button to open the gate. That's the one that apparently had blood on it from when Watson pushed it when the killers exited the property. Security at the house was apparently "upgraded" just after the murders. I would guess this film was made within a week of the murders. I have no "absolute proof" of that. However, there were many similar NBC films made at that time, including the day of the murders. This one was apparently made the morning of the murders, some of the victims cars are still in the driveway--kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb-PrcyCsMC6oGg.html

1220sassy Jeff Franklin the creator of Full House lives there now.

@Sabrina Dugan I couldn't live in the property. Period. Regardless if it's a new house or not.

@Melanie Jarrett no I've never ever lived there in my life.

@Melanie Jarrett where is that street located,in what state ? Just asking out of curiosity. Pretty please, thank you.

@Melanie Jarrett I am sure really truly honestly grateful that I didn't,don't live there . He was a guy 👦 who was a sicko . It's a shame that the people were killed. I was 16 years old at the time when he had his followers kill the people. I remember when it happened like it was yesterday .It has been over 51 years ago when it happened. His followers were as well sickos .

None of the women knew where they were going till they were almost there . Only Tex knew.

She was a drug addiction the and for the rest of her life she never changed even involved her own children.

theapeman2004 That house had deep-rooted troubling issues before the Polanskis moved in. Quite a history indeed.

That new place is tacky af !! It looks like the house of pimp

@Sabrina Dugan lmao stop watching cartoons

The Mercury 13 you have to remember this was 1969, nothing looked fancy and technologically advanced like today

That’s the garage . The guest house where William Garretson lived was beyond the main residence past the pool

Christine Flores i think it was just for the carpet which both Roman and Col. Tate got on their knees and scrubbed by hand to get the blood stains out, can you imagine a father trying to clean the blood of his murdered daughters body off the carpet?

Jackie Morris yeah, although looking at the crime scene pics that carpet would need to be replaced at least in the area Sharon was lying, i think Rudi was angry with Roman for letting Voytek and Abigail move in temporarily because it was against the rental agreement and also because at the time following the murders there was alot of speculation about Voytek and Jays drug use and contacts

what a fucken skum bag

Sharon's Father, Paul, had to sadly cleaned up his daughter's blood from the interior of that house. The walls, the carpets, everything while planning her funeral. I sincerely hope the soulless bastard, Rudi, is burning in hell.

Kimberly J. Sullivan yea that's terrible.....very sad...

There was a guest house just past the pool. Tex cut the phone wires. Either the same wire went to the main house and the guest house or there were 2 wires and Tex cut both. At any rate neither the main house nor the guest house had working phones. The caretaker William Garretson was 19 and was living in the guest house to take care of the dogs while Rudy Altobelli was in Europe. He claims that he was up all or most of the night writing letters and listening to music. I think he may have been wearing headphones. One story he tells he sees the front doorknob turn but no one came in. In another he admits that he heard screaming and took a quick peek out the window and he saw people on the front lawn but he thought Sharon was having a loud party and that the screaming near the pool was because they were chasing each other trying to throw each other in the pool. Patricia was stabbing Abigail on the front lawn but she started to get tired and her knife was hitting bone which made Patricia’s hand hurt. So she asked Tex to finish up for her. Tex did and he told Patricia to check the guest house and kill anyone who was there. Patricia didn’t want to do any more so she stood in the shadows at the side of the guest house for a little while and returned to Tex saying she had checked and no one was there. I think she knew that someone was there but she didn’t want to have to stab someone else.

They were

@@alexmasswell5905 um, no guns were found in the house

@@joenickell6323 uhh Roman had a gun in the closet

I watched an interview with Sharon's mom I don't remember which one tho she said they found the dogs hidding don't remember under the bed or closet sorry it been along time and one dog was Sharon's and one was Abigail s

​@@alicemilling3706 This dog in the video is a watch dog and was not there at the time of the murders. Any other dogs on the residence at the time of the murders were friendly pet dogs or puppies. William Garretson at the guest house was watching the owner (Rudi Altobelli) of the property's dogs as he was away in Europe. Ironically, this is sort of chilling but in a story by Susan Atkins, she stated that at one point while they were in the house and starting to tie up victims with ropes around their necks, she glanced over towards a window by the front porch and saw a dog outside peering in through the window watching what was going on. The dog spooked when it saw her looking back at it and simply vanished from the window. It was one of the Altobelli dogs. Also, the yelling by Frykowski was heard by the counselor who was down in the valley about 5 or 6 blocks away. Because it was down a steep hill and about 1/2 mile away, the counselor could not pinpoint where the screaming was coming from exactly. People who lived in this area said that loud noises (parties) would be heard constantly because a lot of celebrities and rich people would always be having big parties at night and the shape of the valley with the hills caused sounds and the acoustics to bounce all over the place confusing people from where sounds came from. The worst is that a neighbor next door was having their own party which ended at 12 midnight. The couple went to bed quickly after everyone left. The wife heard the Steve Parent gun shots sometime before 12:30 am and mentioned it to her husband. But since the long driveway (where Parent was shot) at the Tate house was about 100 yards away from the neighbor's house, this neighbor who was used to loud parties at the Tate house, ignored it and went to bed. The Tate house was another 50 yards away from the long driveway and thus about 150 yards away from this same neighbor. The neighbor never heard any other gunshots or screaming from the murdered victims who were inside the house nor on the front lawn when the Manson family members arrived.

Star Blazers It Is Very interesting all this that you count, in an article I had seemed to read this that you narrate, to lick is very sad that no one noticed or listen to something to suspect and to call the police, was something tragic happened, in any case being as You count and being neighbors close and accustomed to hear parties is logical to ignore it, it's a shame what happened, I wish I had been Bruce Lee there that night (which they say was invited) perhaps it would have been different all, all my love for Sharon and his precious Baby 👶 for your family and friends 💖

TermsofService Ah, yes?

TermsofService stupid 😂😂😂

Sharon was busy in her room with Jay Sebring.....

I read that the dogs were barking that night..but don't know if they started barking when one of the killers grabbed the doorknob..or when they heard the screaming and shots or both...but they were barking that night...so said Garretson

DM McHugh because it was an extremely hot summer evening the windows were left open with screens. Remember this was 1969 and safety was an afterthought. Tex and the girls took a knife and sliced the screen and climbed into the house.

Window

A,window

@@kayleecoin176 Correction: Tex cut the screen and crawled through the window, then let the girls (2) into the front door which was unlocked. They all 3 walked into the living area (next to front door) to find a sleeping Voycheck on the couch. You know the rest...

Wouldn't you hide?

What’s so weird about hiding in the closet? 🙄

The twin house (not identical, but similar) 10048 Cielo was also demolished and strangely enough replaced with a much smaller, similar version of the eyesore that replaced the original home at 10050.

Today's 'schelebrities', for the most part, are boorishly uninteresting, self-absorbed people with no class or brains (but with lots of money, of course). If there was ever a time when it was embarrassing to actually be one, it's definitely now. (yawn.....)

The nearby neighbors all heard something

A lot of people don't want to get involved even if they do "hear something" or see something. I'd hate to have that on my conscious.

@Jimo means from beginning like when Polanski first moved he should've put security dogs to protect the property cause the gate wasn't a good deterant to would be thieves or killers.

Do you really think a no trespassing sign would have stopped them?! Might as well say. "If only murder was illegal "

Why, is a dog immune to a .22 caliber bullet?

Where was the dog? They didn't have that dog. They put one on to guard the premises after the murders.

Not so

T Cline they didn't hear the gun shot when Tex killed Steven parent .so I don't think that would have care about a dag barking

I believe that is Rudy Altobelli's dog (Sharon's and Gibby's pets had been removed after the discovery). He had a couple, including a weimaraner named Christopher. His dogs were with Garretson, the caretaker.

they woulda shot that dog.....they were lunits. out of there mine. nothing woulda stoped them.....

kitty kitty Your Absolutely Right

T Cline That’s what’s Kasabian said when she visited the house with Bugliosi.

Anna Hudson I was there on 8/9/89 for the huge prayer vigil. I didn't leave til 6am the following morning.

Actually, Sharon's sister once met him and asked him "Are you exploiting my sister's death by living in her house?" and he felt so horrible thinking how it could have happened with his owbn sister and that he wouldn't like it either that he cried and on the next day, he left the house.

@@speedy6022 He didn't leave the house the next day. He sold it soon after though....

Probably sick of the bad ju ju too

@@kimberlyj.sullivan9304 You are a very strange person to stand in front of a gated murder house doing a prayer vigil until 6am. Freak

it's well documented, it's part of the Sharon Tate estate record, available from "Celebrity Collectibles" a website that has hundreds of celebrity wills, autopsy reports, etc., get your head out of your ass.

L A times I believe. Rudi Altobelli ( owner of that property ) did sue Roman Polanski & Sharon's family for damages

Yes the owner Rudy Altobelli did sue Sharon’s family for damages . He also was suing because it was leased as a single family dwelling . The Polanskis broke a rule of the lease when Abigail Folger and Voytek Frykowski started residing there. There was a settlement for a few thousand for damages. Regardless of the situation it was in the most extremest of bad taste showing no compassion whatsoever for the family after such a tragic loss. Rest in Heaven Steven Parent~ Abigail Folger~ Voytek Frykowski ~Jay Sebring ~Sharon and baby Paul❤️

​@@danielkelly6790 Well, buisness is buisness. The owner knew Polanski was rich, besides by offering his first- born he would be in the gold club for life. If he did. I think he did.